Debate homosexual 'SenutiSolidus' on if lolicons are pedophiles

SenutiSolidus said:
I just think that the actual reality of child abuse is so far removed from what lolicons get up to that it's ridiculous to equate the two, even if what's being depicted is somewhat (since it's nothing like what really happens) similar. It is genuinely like comparing a run of the mill furry to Kero the Wolf. They just aren't the same.
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I said shut up you stupid fucking gorilla nigger, holy shit. If you want to discuss loli so badly there's containment zones that aren't the farms. You are talking to a brick wall.
 
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SenutiSolidus said:
I just think that the actual reality of child abuse is so far removed from what lolicons get up to that it's ridiculous to equate the two, even if what's being depicted is somewhat (since it's nothing like what really happens) similar. It is genuinely like comparing a run of the mill furry to Kero the Wolf. They just aren't the same.
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Lidl Drip said:
A man who jerks off to anime feet is a foot fetishist etc.
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This. Nobody said that jerking to loli is the literal equivalent to molesting a child. It still makes you a pedo to be sexually attracted to kids regardless of whether you abuse a child or not. Idk how you're not tired of all this hairsplitting and nonstop regurgitation of this topic, you're not gonna change minds on this.
 
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I did not want to fucking be in this thread. I really wish they just deleted my post.

While I'm here in this extremely embarrassing thread, I guess I'll have to say my piece:

Whatever your stance on lolicon, I firmly believe using words like "pedophile' and "child porn" is the wrong thing to do, because it devalues the word. Let me explain: imagine if someone told you that they found out someone was "making child porn" and then you find out they were drawing powerpuff girls rule 34 shit. Or if someone told you someone said they wanted to fuck a child, but the 'child' was that dragon girl from that maid anime I didn't watch.

Words like "pedophile" and "child porn" need to only be used for the most extreme of cases where there's an actionable crime happening. This isn't a trivial distinction either.

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Failure to make a clear distinction between these things causes people to actually try to treat them the same, and it results in an already underfunded and overburdened system getting flooded with useless information. Even in countries where this stuff is illegal, chasing down people who make shitty cartoons takes away precious time and resources from cases that could actually save or protect real victims.

Higgs Bonbon said:
I said shut up you stupid fucking gorilla nigger, holy shit. If you want to discuss loli so badly there's containment zones that aren't the farms. You are talking to a brick wall.
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I agree. I'd personally like to never discuss lolicon on the Farms ever again, for the rest of my life.
 
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Disregarding the horrendous, gross, and evil behaviors of "one of your own" is exactly what the Left does. Do you know how fucked it is to protect someone under pretenses as flimsy as political affiliation?

Watch Alex Rosen's predator catcher show sometime. The vast, vast majority of cases are self-professed conservatives and christians. We have the liberty to condemn creeps and weirdos in our sects because most people share this sort of commonsense worldview. Major Internet platforms and colleges are insulated hugboxes for insane left-wing drivel for a reason — they simply don't exist in the real world to this extent.

Arguing that we can't call out bad apples because we need more numbers/support on our side is ludicrous.
 
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Smithfield Ham said:
I did not want to fucking be in this thread. I really wish they just deleted my post.

While I'm here in this extremely embarrassing thread, I guess I'll have to say my piece:

Whatever your stance on lolicon, I firmly believe using words like "pedophile' and "child porn" is the wrong thing to do, because it devalues the word. Let me explain: imagine if someone told you that they found out someone was "making child porn" and then you find out they were drawing powerpuff girls rule 34 shit. Or if someone told you someone said they wanted to fuck a child, but the 'child' was that dragon girl from that maid anime I didn't watch.

Words like "pedophile" and "child porn" need to only be used for the most extreme of cases where there's an actionable crime happening. This isn't a trivial distinction either.

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Failure to make a clear distinction between these things causes people to actually try to treat them the same, and it results in an already underfunded and overburdened system getting flooded with useless information. Even in countries where this stuff is illegal, chasing down people who make shitty cartoons takes away precious time and resources from cases that could actually save or protect real victims.


I agree. I'd personally like to never discuss lolicon on the Farms ever again, for the rest of my life.
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Hmm I wonder what a Venn diagram of the overlap between lolicons and MAPs would look like

Oh, wait, yeah. It would look like a perfect
fucking solar eclipse

Its almost like lolicon is for MAPs to have a tentatively legal outlet to congregate around and be able to say “I’m not as bad as THAT guy” while being essentially the same thing though maybe not quite as far down the path to hell YET
 
SenutiSolidus said:
I disagree that fantasies relate to wanting to perform those fetishes in real life. Some do, especially the ones that aren't dangerous, but vorefags are mostly not cannibals for example. Not all furries are zoosadists.
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because voreaphiles do not have a fetish for being eaten. it is a very weird psychological thing that i could explain it in detail but i don't want to.

furries are comforted by the anonymity a mask provides, literally or through fursonas.

lolicons do have a fetish for children.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
Yup, despite being open pedophiles who advocate for grooming and ruination of children Democrats seem to be pretty popular alright. Something tells me the popular opinion of the cattle isn't worth jack here, if it was we wouldn't have companies like Sweet Baby gaining any ground to begin with.
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yes.
 
30+GameOvers said:
Yup, despite being open pedophiles who advocate for grooming and ruination of children Democrats seem to be pretty popular alright. Something tells me the popular opinion of the cattle isn't worth jack here, if it was we wouldn't have companies like Sweet Baby gaining any ground to begin with.
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I'm rather inclined towards pessimism but even I see that Democrat popularity is waning a bit. They're still in power and virtually unstoppable, but their popularity, currently, is not what I'd describe as high. It's not as low as it should be (zero) but it's nice to see some slight cracks forming...and all it took was a looming WIII and tanking economy.

SenutiSolidus said:
You need numbers. Excluding people based on the cartoons they watch is counterintuitive. They ALREADY think we're all pedos jerking off to anime. There is literally no benefit in being exclusionary, it's just giving the other side more power.
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Numbers for what exactly? And actually, there is often a benefit in being exclusionary of degenerates. There's no place in conservative movements for that, the flawed big tent strategy is self-defeating.

Mr. Manchester said:
1. Lolicons are pedophiles, they're attracted to children/1000 year old demons that look exactly like children.
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They don't look "exactly" the same, but it's too close and the intent is depraved regardless.

SenutiSolidus said:
Problem is a lot of games that are woke or have odd writing actually have good gameplay. I saw God Of War Ragnarok mentioned, and that shit was still incredibly fun even if the writing was cringey. Same with the new Spider-Man games. I just tune it out and enjoy the gameplay.
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Now I'm just confused. "We need lolicons" to strengthen the right-wing, then you suck off these shitty woke propaganda games? You really do deserve your pink triangle.
 
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SenutiSolidus said:
I'm genuinely not sure if i'm supposed to take this even remotely seriously. Gatekeeping (apart from actual sex criminals, of course) has literally never worked. Many times, the Right has tried these purity tests, you can't sit with us, kind of nonsense. What does the left do? They scoop those people up, give them a dose of woke insanity, and let them do whatever they want as long as they vote the right way. You need every last person on a project like this for it to have even a remote chance of working.

The other side has literal acting pedophiles, not just lolicons on their side. They control the narrative anyway. You can point and call them pedophiles as you should, it just won't get anything actually done.
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What you've just said here is the exact reason why America First became a laughing stock and everyone abandoned it.
 
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Sneed S. McSneedensen said:
I want to hear this.
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He probably means the whole domination angle. To eat something could be considered the ultimate act of dominance. You are being turned into nutrients by a stronger, presumably (hopefully) strapping giant (it's probably a furry though). Their existence amounts to little more than that. Weirdly separated from cannibalism by those in the circle but there is a profound difference between them: one is being swallowed whole and the other is being chopped up or torn apart. Voreaphiles seem commonly more into being swallowed whole because there's less violent/traumatic imagery. In comparison, it's comforting. Plays into what gets us into BDSM.

I was curious and looked into this myself a long while back.
 
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God of Nothing said:
He probably means the whole domination angle. To eat something could be considered the ultimate act of dominance. You are being turned into nutrients by a stronger, presumably (hopefully) strapping giant (it's probably a furry though). Their existence amounts to little more than that. Weirdly separated from cannibalism by those in the circle but there is a profound difference between them: one is being swallowed whole and the other is being chopped up or torn apart. Voreaphiles seem commonly more into being swallowed whole because there's less violent/traumatic imagery. In comparison, it's comforting. Plays into what gets us into BDSM.

I was curious and looked into this myself a long while back.
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God of Nothing said:
He probably means the whole domination angle. To eat something could be considered the ultimate act of dominance. You are being turned into nutrients by a stronger, presumably (hopefully) strapping giant (it's probably a furry though). Their existence amounts to little more than that. Weirdly separated from cannibalism by those in the circle but there is a profound difference between them: one is being swallowed whole and the other is being chopped up or torn apart. Voreaphiles seem commonly more into being swallowed whole because there's less violent/traumatic imagery. In comparison, it's comforting. Plays into what gets us into BDSM.

I was curious and looked into this myself a long while back.
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After reading this, I have the following addition to your argument, and perhaps a counterpoint prepared. The painstaking research involved searching "cell absorbs the androids gone sexual" in youtube, and clicking on the channel of the first result, the findings may make you regret being a human being with functional eyeballs:

 
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