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Woman Says 20-Year-Old Traditional Wives Become Single Moms At 40​

Choosing to become a "tradwife," or traditional wife, in your early 20s is a huge life decision. While most young adults are enjoying the freedom of independence for the first time, these wives have traded burgeoning careers and higher education for diapers and domestic responsibility.

The problem with this narrative is not that tradwives want to be homemakers, it's that these young moms end up sacrificing their own individual paths while their husbands grow in their careers. These moms may even find themselves single by the time they reach 40, having dedicated their lives to a man who may not have been the right match.

One woman shared her controversial opinion about young, traditional wives inevitably becoming single by their 40s.​

Anya Jovita posted a video on TikTok to discuss her opposition to young women making drastic decisions that will likely inhibit them from following their own individual paths.

Her argument centered around the idea that every woman is entitled to her own personal life choices, but women should be cognizant of the challenges they will face when they set their lives aside to be tradwives to a man they met in their 20s.

“The entire stability of your life cannot rely on a man that you marry in your 20s wanting you for the next 60 years,” Jovita emphasized.

Young love can be blinding, but how can a woman be so sure the man she is dedicating her life to will always be there no matter what? How can she be sure that he, or she, won’t eventually have a change of heart?

The decision to marry is not one to be taken lightly, and there are countless factors to consider and discuss before individuals should officially seal the deal. When young men and women choose to marry at the height of their emotions, they are neglecting the challenges and difficulties that are bound to happen later on.

“What happens when you’re ready to walk away, but you have no job experience, no bank account, nothing, because your entire future relied on this guy, this one human being, wanting you forever?” Jovita exclaimed.

When a woman chooses to depend on a man for support and security, she is giving up her autonomy.​

Young parenthood can be challenging, but it offers its own rewards that can be just as gratifying as any other experience. However, it’s important to note that young parenthood does not necessarily equate to the path of a traditional stay-at-home mom. There are many different options parents can explore.

When a young woman makes the decision to marry and rely solely on her husband, she loses the opportunity to have her own sense of freedom and independence. “Our grandmothers had to fight the U.S. government to get bank accounts, and barely even 50 years later, y’all are voluntarily giving them up,” Jovita expressed.

There's no guarantee that the man you fall for in your 20s will be the husband of your dreams for the rest of your lives together, no matter what he leads you to believe.

In fact, research suggests that 30% of white couples who plan "shotgun weddings" end up divorced later on in life. This is due to the impulsive decision to marry for the sake of their child, rather than for genuine, unconditional love for each other.

That being said, it seems irrational to base a lifelong decision on a fleeting moment of love, especially when that decision involves the sacrifice of your career.

With an emphasis on women's empowerment in today’s world, the prevalence of tradwives begs the question: Why are women still sacrificing their autonomy for men?​

Surely, there are rare occasions of finding genuine love early in life, and some women are lucky enough to find a man whom they can trust will take care of them. Yet, just because this stability is available to you does not mean you should willingly abandon your own purpose.

Regardless of a woman’s thought process behind the risky decisions she makes, Judge Judy’s advice from "The Ellen Show" continues to ring true today when it comes to ensuring individual freedom and independence in relationships.

“Once a woman gives up financial independence to a mate, it’s over. Because there's not an equality anymore,” Judge Judy explained. “You don't necessarily have to use your craft, use your career, but you have to be prepared, because if you're not prepared, you’re stuck, and more women have to accept lifestyles that are unpleasant because they are financially stuck.”
 
Try getting sexually harassed by adult men from age 10 onward and get back to me
What are the transgender rates for young women in Saudi Arabia? America is far better than most of the world. The fact that you're pushing one sole, single cause, despite this shit even being a recent thing, should be suspect to anyone--are you really suggesting times are worse now than in the past? By your logic, India, Pakistan, etc should be exploding with women dressing and acting like men.
 
This is due to the impulsive decision to marry for the sake of their child, rather than for genuine, unconditional love for each other.
There is no such thing as unconditional love. What they are describing is infatuation.

Love doesn't come unbidden, you have to work for it. A base to work off is fine, but the reason so many marriages fail today is because people get married due to infatuation and expect that to just carry them.

If a kid isn't enough to hold your marriage toogether, then how hard/wet you get looking at another definitely wasn't gonna cut it either.
 
What are the transgender rates for young women in Saudi Arabia? America is far better than most of the world. The fact that you're pushing one sole, single cause, despite this shit even being a recent thing, should be suspect to anyone--are you really suggesting times are worse now than in the past? By your logic, India, Pakistan, etc should be exploding with women dressing and acting like men.
Wait til you hear about Bacha posh
 
They did from time immemorial until the 1950s (for the working and middle classes at least) for that exact reason, when a sudden explosion of wealth led to the "tradwife" meme.

No woman with an office job today works as hard as peasant women in agrarian societies did. It just boggles the mind that they say "women weren't allowed to work." Work isn't a luxury, you dumb hos.
 
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Ain't reading that shizzy, for realsy.
Legit can't tell if this is a tranny or not
One of the reasons black trannies sort of pass is because black women are either cute and girly or butt ugly and look like dudes, so black trannies look like the latter.
Today, even within conservative circles, it's relatively easy and there is little consequence in doing so.
You forgot the divorce, child support and alimony bankrupting your ass to hell and back.
the kind of man who is actively seeking a tradwife is probably a sleazebag.
Nah, sleazebags go for lefty women with daddy issues because they put out easier, which is also why those chicks think all men are shit because the men they always end up with are shit since no decent guy would date a hippie chick who is the town bike.
 
No woman with an office job today works as hard as peasant women in agrarian societies did. It just boggles the mind that they say "women weren't allowed to work." Work isn't a luxury, you dumb hos.
they saw men as higher status than them
what they didn't realize was men worked more for it
and now what do women complain is the hardest things in their life?

working and finding a high status man
wop, wop
 
Most people in America spend money like fucking idiots, if you're not a materialist Burgerperson you can save money up fast if you live beneath your means.
That's everyone, not just burgers. My mother used to be very conservative with the money she used to spend, mostly because it wasn't just money she acquired herself, but also money my father provided. Flash-forward a couple of years? She studied, got herself a very nice job, and now, she barely has enough money at the end of each month. It's ridiculous.
 
The one who doesn't want to play their role the most is women. I don't know how anyone can be under the impression it isn't. So much dysfunction in modern society and the sexes stems from saying anyone can be what they want but the unsaid judgement everyone has that they should still fulfill their roles. When the hell have you ever heard a man in your life that was reputable in anyway say a man shouldn't be a man? I've never heard a non-soyboy say men should be soyboys. Women? I've lost count of the bullshit, even from reputable ones. Don't mistake this for being terminally online: too many women in my honest to god life say men should be two different things and women should be whatever the hell they want.

I always find it surprising how people conveniently forget it was women as a whole who decided to drop their half of the social contract way, way before any of the PUA/Redpill/Manosphere content ever existed, and desperately try to pin the blame on men for the fucking disaster that are current day intersexual dynamics.

Hell, it's even better (worse) when you think that, in hindsight, feminism became the social equivalent of a Ponzi scheme: The early adopters were able to reap most of the rewards (Experiencing the boom of the sexual revolution while having a somewhat traditional society to fall back on), and the ones who followed experienced increasingly diminishing returns until today, where it looks like there's going to be at least one, if not two generations holding the proverbial bag.
 
Technically a "20 year-old tradwife" would be less likely to be a single mom at 40 compared to an average woman based on stats - the less pre-marital sexual partners a woman has, the lower the chance that her marriage will end in divorce, and by definition a tradwife should have a lower-than-average amount of sexual partners. This woman's argument is like a chronic smoker telling you that you're going to die of lung cancer because you're not smoking.

Because tptb have done a great job insisting that any mild conservative views such as ‘I’d quite like to be a mum, let’s get married and get a nice house in the burbs and have kids’ has to be seen as extremist.
It's almost certainly because a household like that only has one income; which means that a lot of businesses get less money due to those households having less disposable income for random luxuries, and the government gets less money because a mother not working means they can't skim income tax off her. So it's in the best interest of the Almighty Dollar to stop that with any means possible.
It's the same reason TPTB push gays and troons so much; both groups have a lot more disposable income than their straight/cis counterparts, so they make better consumers.
 
The early adopters were able to reap most of the rewards (Experiencing the boom of the sexual revolution while having a somewhat traditional society to fall back on)
Sad part is people thinking never leaving this stage is plausible, especially when we lived through the fact it just devolves into the modern day. You can't just open the fence and expect all the cattle to stay for their own good. I wish I could use far less offensive analogies, but how else am I supposed to put it? Women have shown an inability nor want to take care of themselves or maintain a traditional structure with everything it entails. There is no picking and choosing traditionalism, which is the main complaint about the bullshit tiktok tradwife memes.
 
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Wait til you hear about Bacha posh
What an excellent example! Bacha posh is something the families impose on the child for cultural reasons not relevant to our culture, usually only for the duration of childhood. Almost all incidents of supposed "third genders" or transgenderdom, such as two-spirit (which is really just transgenderdom) are probably from some original biological basis of some sort stemming from the fact that the 'default' body plan in many ways is female and hormones in utero are what masculinize the fetus, and without these hormones you can get strange effects like CIAS where you have an XY chromosome individual with bobs, vagene, and a very curvy and almost hyperfeminine body build. Many of these individuals have lived and died not knowing anything about gametes, hormones, or the fact that they have diminished internal testes at all. I think there's some possibility a minority of trans MtF has a biological basis, although today this is surely a very small minority--or, something is very wrong with our society chemically. Possibly low testosterone in males is causing feminized behaviors. Biologically this may explain why transgenderdom is associated with men throughout history. Elagabalus may not have actually been a tranny and that may have been an ancient smear job, but the fact that such an accusation was levied against him tells me that these individuals existed in some capacity even back then.
 
You seem under the impression incel/redpill types want to be that way or are that way to begin with
No, I am absolutely aware that some if not most of them are a victim of the current times and circumstances

Ask any if they'd trade whatever NEET or miserable life they have now for a traditional one, and they'd say yes in a heartbeat
And here's when I call BULL-FUCKING-SHIT. Ok, that may sound a bit harsh but let me explain myself. When you say "traditional" to them, they imagine themselves in a home from the 60s when they get back from work at whatever factory they worked at to a cooked steak, then sitting in front of the tv reading a newspaper to a well kept home, kids - if they're even there - all kept up, they can just relax after a hard day of work. Except that wasn't how life worked back then, that's just a nice postcard. But that's not even the point, that life was the RESULT of a certain lifestyle and balance between man and woman. That means marriage, devotion, extremely hard work and most important - sacrifice. And most of them, when told how much out of their comfort zone they'd have to go, immiediately shoot down the idea because for sure the woman will leave them, cuck them and whatever else the current zeitgeist taught them about broken relationships. That's not to say these things don't happen - they abolutely do, but if you're gonna shoot yourself down from the onset, well, there's nothing much to talk about.

So much dysfunction in modern society and the sexes stems from saying anyone can be what they want but the unsaid judgement everyone has that they should still fulfill their roles
Agree

a man in your life that was reputable in anyway
Not many of them left sadly.

too many women in my honest to god life say men should be two different things and women should be whatever the hell they want
Of course - they're women for christ sakes. They're emotional creatures and usually can't analytically describe what they really want until they have it. Not to mention the decades of cultural damage they've gone through. You talk about reputable men and the crisis of manhood? Think about what women go through nowadays and the crisis of womanhood. I'm guessing only now with the troon menace this is visible, but just like the concept of manhood has been diltued to nothingness, the same happened to them.

Both-sideism is nonsensical and if anything would be proof they're irreconcilable if that's the case
It's not both-sideism. You can place the blame all you want, it just doesn't get us anywhere at this point. But if you're so eager to place the blame - who created the birth control pill? Who voted through the 19th amendment? Did a woman create tinder?

The people who think women are just as capable as men blame men for their mistakes or for allowing them to happen
They're dumb people, ridicule them.

How are you supposed to approach this nonsense?
And here we get to the meat of things. The only way I think - lead by example. Find a reputable spouse. Get married. Have children. Raise and protect them from the filth. Yeah, it's fucking hard in todays day and age because literally the whole world is against you on this. But this is what me and my wife decided on, and the halo effect is actually working - people around our circle are noticing, and turns out that if you look around you'll find other people that think like you. Make sure you have your worldview set and be able to both explain and defend it, people will follow because they'll see the hopefully positive results.

I know shit may be much harder over the puddle, I've heard how much more fucked up your society is compared to mine. But I haven't thought up any other way to this point. I am sure as shit that having the stance of "fuck this shit I'm out" or "woman are dogs yaaah" won't turn things around

It's almost certainly because a household like that only has one income; which means that a lot of businesses get less money due to those households having less disposable income for random luxuries, and the government gets less money because a mother not working means they can't skim income tax off her. So it's in the best interest of the Almighty Dollar to stop that with any means possible.
DING DING DING A WINNER IS YOU

Edit: @Android raptor your ratings are so cool, Hitler told me so. Don't spend them all in one place
 
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And here's when I call BULL-FUCKING-SHIT. Ok, that may sound a bit harsh but let me explain myself. When you say "traditional" to them, they imagine themselves in a home from the 60s when they get back from work at whatever factory they worked at to a cooked steak, then sitting in front of the tv reading a newspaper to a well kept home, kids - if they're even there - all kept up, they can just relax after a hard day of work. Except that wasn't how life worked back then, that's just a nice postcard. But that's not even the point, that life was the RESULT of a certain lifestyle and balance between man and woman. That means marriage, devotion, extremely hard work and most important - sacrifice. And most of them, when told how much out of their comfort zone they'd have to go, immiediately shoot down the idea because for sure the woman will leave them, cuck them and whatever else the current zeitgeist taught them about broken relationships. That's not to say these things don't happen - they abolutely do, but if you're gonna shoot yourself down from the onset, well, there's nothing much to talk about.
More like because it sounds like a fantasy these days.
Of course - they're women for christ sakes. They're emotional creatures and usually can't analytically describe what they really want until they have it. Not to mention the decades of cultural damage they've gone through. You talk about reputable men and the crisis of manhood? Think about what women go through nowadays and the crisis of womanhood. I'm guessing only now with the troon menace this is visible, but just like the concept of manhood has been diltued to nothingness, the same happened to them.
Difference of course being how society needs men to be men or else things just won't function. The actual vital jobs of society we all overlook and are underpaid have always been done by men.
It's not both-sideism. You can place the blame all you want, it just doesn't get us anywhere at this point. But if you're so eager to place the blame - who created the birth control pill? Who voted through the 19th amendment?
Except it is. I know, Jews Jews Jews. How long are you going to deny women's own agency? The end point of this is just saying women are incapable of being seen as people who can think for themselves. That they must be led and it's men's fault for not leading them enough. It's the most misogynistic point of view. The denial of a woman as a complete person.
I know shit may be much harder over the puddle, I've heard how much more fucked up your society is compared to mine. But I haven't thought up any other way to this point. I am sure as shit that having the stance of "fuck this shit I'm out" or "woman are dogs yaaah" won't turn things around
When things are rotten to their foundation, what else is there left to do?
 
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Try getting sexually harassed by adult men from age 10 onward and get back to me
This only happened to me first when I was 18 and then again when was in Europe. The reason why it happened when I was 18 was that I worked with a lot of taconiggers that spoke, in the most literal sense, zero English. In fact, I remember the day I got a pen and parchment paper and started translating things for them. Here is the interesting thing about it - contrary to popular belief, they all wanted to learn English. They all just dropped what they were doing and came to see what I was translating out. But uh on the other side of that, the men were very aggressive. They tried to kiss me and grab my ass at work, screeching to me "MAMACITA". I didn't see that again until I went to Europe. It was never the northern Euro men, always southern Euro, MENAs or Sub-Saharan Africans. They were fucking aggressive. I'll never forget it.

If you are approached at 10, I feel really bad for you and probably explains a lot. I was never sexually abused like that.
 
This only happened to me first when I was 18 and then again when was in Europe. The reason why it happened when I was 18 was that I worked with a lot of taconiggers that spoke, in the most literal sense, zero English. In fact, I remember the day I got a pen and parchment paper and started translating things for them. Here is the interesting thing about it - contrary to popular belief, they all wanted to learn English. They all just dropped what they were doing and came to see what I was translating out. But uh on the other side of that, the men were very aggressive. They tried to kiss me and grab my ass at work, screeching to me "MAMACITA". I didn't see that again until I went to Europe. It was never the northern Euro men, always southern Euro, MENAs or Sub-Saharan Africans. They were fucking aggressive. I'll never forget it.

If you are approached at 10, I feel really bad for you and probably explains a lot. I was never sexually abused like that.
You are in the minority. It's hardly something exclusive to whatever racial minority you don't like either (first men that started sexually harassing me were middle aged and elderly white dudes)
 
You are in the minority. It's hardly something exclusive to whatever racial minority you don't like either (first men that started sexually harassing me were middle aged and elderly white dudes)
I just said it never happened to me, sexual abuse as a minor. That doesn't mean other things didn't happen to me as white on white violence at all in the least bit. It just wasn't sexual. And if it did happen to you I am sorry, that's honestly terrible.
 
I just said it never happened to me, sexual abuse as a minor. That doesn't mean other things didn't happen to me as white on white violence at all in the least bit. It just wasn't sexual. And if it did happen to you I am sorry, that's honestly terrible.
Most women first experience sexual harassment as children. Girls wanting to chop their boobs off is a natural result of associating them with getting creeped on and inappropriately sexualized by adults. To say nothing of all the other shitty things adolescent girls have to deal with (like their bodies being treated as open for public commentary and getting shat on for being GNC).
 
More like because it sounds like a fantasy these days.
Yes, but that wasn't done to us by us, but by tptb

Difference of course being how society needs men to be men or else things just won't function. The actual vital jobs of society we all overlook and are underpaid have always been done by men.
Women also have functions in life like that. Starting with making offspring. Yeah yeah, they're not having any kids now blah blah blah their fault. It's a joined system. If one side doesn't work neither will the other

Except it is. I know, Jews Jews Jews. How long are you going to deny women's own agency? The end point of this is just saying women are incapable of being seen as people who can think for themselves. That they must be led and it's men's fault for not leading them enough. It's the most misogynistic point of view. The denial of a woman as a complete person.
I'm not denying womens agency, I'm pointing out they got fucked over just as much as we did. I'm not the one saying women should be treated like dogs. Having a different mindset and experiencing the world differently than we do is not dehumanizing them, quite the contrary.

When things are rotten to their foundation, what else is there left to do?
Rebuild from the ground up. It's what we do, what defines us as men.
 
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Most women first experience sexual harassment as children. Girls wanting to chop their boobs off is a natural result of associating them with getting creeped on and inappropriately sexualized by adults. To say nothing of all the other shitty things adolescent girls have to deal with (like their bodies being treated as open for public commentary and getting shat on for being GNC).
I am very lucky in that respect then. I am not discounting your experience. I don't know your life, but now you are telling me. I accept it and it explains a bit. Nothing wrong with it as we all can do nothing about the past and its affects on us. Just helps me understand you better.
 
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