Orbiter "Flutter" / "Egg" / "Cabbage Patch" / "Meryl" / "Food Lion lady" - Modern Christory's biggest mystery

[themarchivist2]

If she forever escapes doxing, like the Magic Man, she becomes a legend.

I honestly feel like if we really wanted to we could dox Magic Man nowadays. You get a decent look at his face and body in both videos he appears in, and there were only so many people actively involved with both Chris and Kim Wilson in 2010 who also lived in convenient travel distance from Chris's house.
A big part of why he escaped getting doxxed is because he approached Chris at a time when OSINT tools (and especially face recognition tools) weren't nearly as widely available, and those that were available weren't as well-known. Meanwhile, most people involved who knew Magic Man's identity had good reason not to give it away, and anyone who wasn't involved didn't give a shit.

With both him and Flutter, I think the surest plan would be to audition a realism-focused sketch artist to draw a portrait of their faces based on the photo references we have. Put that into PimEyes with a subscription, and you're probably good to go. If not, share them on Facebook in area groups and say you suspect them of stealing candy from your store or some shit like that, and wait for people to come forward.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

It's strange Flutter hasn't been seen around Chris's birthday. Pictures of him at Liberty, at a few days around then, at Walmart, just show Chris waddling around all by his lonesome. If Flutter really is Chris' True & Honest girlfriend, it would be strange that she didn't visit him. Chris wouldn't be out and about if he had some snatch waiting for him in Big Island, especially on his birthday.

Indeed. She seemed to have left on January 13. Pretty sure that, if she was his galpal, she would have made some effort to visit him, especially since, if she lives in Charlotte, Chris could have just driven there.

I don't think she's his girlfriend, she's probably his handler or caretaker or something. Maybe she's like a retard big brother kinda role paid for by welfare bux.

Yup, I have little evidence for it, but there's also a backup handler which was once spotted. Well, that is, besides Keffals, who's his online nanny. Chris will do anything for a cooch.

He probably did his usual thing of assuming she was his girlfriend because she didn't vomit at the sight of him and perved on her and she said fuck this I'm out of here. Or even outright tried to rape her because whether or not he's a weak Mr. Potato Man with pipe cleaner arms faggot, she's still a pretty tiny woman.

Yeah, as Chris is pretty limited in terms of options, he will fuck any woman interested on him.
Well, except Fiona. He preferred Barb over her.

And as for rape, Chris did sexually abuse her twice or thrice in public sightings, the CVS, the airport and the date. Would it be out of the question? Especially if Caden paid her.

it could just be that flutter is a student somewhere and she can only be around for so long before classes start up for her again. so her time with chris could have just been a vacation of sorts. if this is the case then she should pop up again sooner or later. it is also possible chris ended up chasing her off.

Fair, but she is supposedly over 30, which lines up with some sightings, and her periods of activity don't exactly line up with those holiday breaks. It's something to investigate further.

I'm still going with the funniest option; Flutter is Caden in a wig.

That's a hilarious theory, but she's way too short for that. We have Caden's height well documented.

When do we call the cabbage patch saga officially over?

When all of her shenanigans are revealed and she leaves Chris.

 

[FinnSven]

Why is there this insane speculation on Flutter again?
The simplest explanation is usually the right one and as far as I saw it:

She most likely got sick of him after they were thrown out of the Convention.
If he was handsy and seemed to think they were a couple, then that wouldn’t help with dealing with him.
Clearly she didn’t want the various weens and randoms taking pictures of her, and she didn’t want to be doxxed.
The more she is around him, the more likely that is to happen.
If she is alone or at a convention with someone else, basically no one will pay attention to her.

She had to fly to see him. I don’t believe the theories that this was some kind of tactic to throw weens off. It’s too complex.

Caden paying her is also unlikely. As I say, it’s still going to be easier to find someone local to wrangle him.

I think she will just remain a brief mystery girl in Chris’s life. Maybe ages after the fact she might pop up on Reddit or something and do an AMA, but I doubt we will ever see her again.

 

[knux]

She most likely got sick of him after they were thrown out of the Convention.
If he was handsy and seemed to think they were a couple, then that wouldn’t help with dealing with him.
Clearly she didn’t want the various weens and randoms taking pictures of her, and she didn’t want to be doxxed.
The more she is around him, the more likely that is to happen.
If she is alone or at a convention with someone else, basically no one will pay attention to her.

I feel this too. The convention was the last straw. Them being kicked out and everyone trying to get photos etc of her, it probably became too much and she noped out.

I don't think she was a friend though. She was way too aware of her surroundings. I still feel she was some sort of handler. At first, I thought she was someone assigned to Chris by the after jail home or something like that.

 

[Vinluv Handesbukia]

If women are nuts, what are guys?

Pussies

 

[FinnSven]

I feel this too. The convention was the last straw. Them being kicked out and everyone trying to get photos etc of her, it probably became too much and she noped out.

I don't think she was a friend though. She was way too aware of her surroundings. I still feel she was some sort of handler. At first, I thought she was someone assigned to Chris by the after jail home or something like that.

Ok. But why would Chris be picking her up from the airport and driving her to places?

If she was someone assigned to him, she either would be driving him around, and he definitely wouldn’t be her contact to collect her from an airport.

And if she was assigned to him, why would she eat with him in restaurants and come with him to a convention?
That’s not wrangler behavior. That’s socializing.

Wranglers take their tards to the shops and whatnot, true, but they wouldn’t be accompanying them to a convention and surely she would have been talking to the convention staff more when they got thrown out?

A tard wrangler would have a vehicle, some sort of identification, and would be far more firm with him about being handsy.

Plus it wouldn’t be him telling strangers to not photograph if she was. She would be the one instructing people to keep distance.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Ok. But why would Chris be picking her up from the airport and driving her to places?

If she was someone assigned to him, she either would be driving him around, and he definitely wouldn’t be her contact to collect her from an airport.

And if she was assigned to him, why would she eat with him in restaurants and come with him to a convention?
That’s not wrangler behavior. That’s socializing.

Wranglers take their tards to the shops and whatnot, true, but they wouldn’t be accompanying them to a convention and surely she would have been talking to the convention staff more when they got thrown out?

A tard wrangler would have a vehicle, some sort of identification, and would be far more firm with him about being handsy.

Plus it wouldn’t be him telling strangers to not photograph if she was. She would be the one instructing people to keep distance.

Flutter doesn't seem to be able to drive.
As for conventions, she was very self aware, wearing a face mask and sunglasses, and just going to where Chris went. Even if you were going out with Chris Chan, would you pay that much attention to your surroundings instead of enjoying yourself?
Hell, she wore a darn face mask on a plane. And no, it's not because she's sick or anything, she wasn't wearing it a day later.
Plus yeah, pretty sus behaviour at the date also.

 

[Ammyterasu]

I think that if they had a falling-out over the con or people taking pictures of her Chris would have gone nuclear on his twitter and youtube, blaming and cursing the trolls like in the good old days.

But yeah the timeline of her sightings is so weird. She hanged out with Chris frequently for around a month (September 4th to October 3rd), at first we tought she was a social service/group home worker or at least someone local. She disappeared until December 20th when Chris picked her up at an airport, then she returned to her home planet sometime after January 6th and the con of fail. We know that he didn't spend his birthday with her, since he was all alone playing Pokemon GO.

I don't think she was a friend though. She was way too aware of her surroundings. I still feel she was some sort of handler.

I agree on that.
My theory for now is still that Caden paid her to mother Chris around (pun very much intended) after he left the group home and started living on his own. Then he made up some excuse on why she had to leave and would only visit very rarely ("her family is in Finland! Crazy, uh?"), dangling her as a carrot to keep Chris productive ("we have to pay for her flight tickets!")

 

[FinnSven]

If women are nuts, what are guys?

Crackers.

Flutter doesn't seem to be able to drive.
As for conventions, she was very self aware, wearing a face mask and sunglasses, and just going to where Chris went. Even if you were going out with Chris Chan, would you pay that much attention to your surroundings instead of enjoying yourself?
Hell, she wore a darn face mask on a plane. And no, it's not because she's sick or anything, she wasn't wearing it a day later.
Plus yeah, pretty sus behaviour at the date also.

It’s the behavior of someone a little odd. Like a spinster aunt and someone with a specific germ phobia.

Even if someone was a tard wrangler and they couldn’t drive, it would not be their appointed charge doing the driving.

Whoever she is, the simplest explanation is that she was a strange woman who liked Chris, probably pen pal-ed him in jail, met up with him a couple of times and found him too much hassle.
Flying to see someone is a mission, and she may have a job or other responsibilities where she lives.
Whether the Finnish theory held water or not she still appeared to have flown from somewhere to see him.

All this stuff about being a Caden hired girlfriend or tard wrangler from out of state is just too far fetched even for Chris Orbit.

 

[ASeabear8952]

I honestly feel like if we really wanted to we could dox Magic Man nowadays. You get a decent look at his face and body in both videos he appears in, and there were only so many people actively involved with both Chris and Kim Wilson in 2010 who also lived in convenient travel distance from Chris's house.
A big part of why he escaped getting doxxed is because he approached Chris at a time when OSINT tools (and especially face recognition tools) weren't nearly as widely available, and those that were available weren't as well-known. Meanwhile, most people involved who knew Magic Man's identity had good reason not to give it away, and anyone who wasn't involved didn't give a shit.
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With both him and Flutter, I think the surest plan would be to audition a realism-focused sketch artist to draw a portrait of their faces based on the photo references we have. Put that into PimEyes with a subscription, and you're probably good to go. If not, share them on Facebook in area groups and say you suspect them of stealing candy from your store or some shit like that, and wait for people to come forward.

I completely forgot about this guy. This also reminded me of the masked man who played Reginald:

Nobody ever found out who he was either, right?

 

[Lou Sassle]

New theory.

What if egg was a trainer?

She could have just been around to train Chris to behave a certain way for Caden. Likely all she would have to do is promise to get his dick wet and tell him how he has to behave in public.

Then she leaves the last time saying great job Chris keep acting this way and I'll be back soon to fuck you. Then she never returns and Chris will behave himself for a few months until he starts to realize tomorrow never comes.

 

[AnOminous]

And if she was assigned to him, why would she eat with him in restaurants and come with him to a convention?
That’s not wrangler behavior. That’s socializing.

If it's the kind of guy with a habit of tarding out no matter where he goes and getting thrown out or arrested, that's wrangling.

 

[FinnSven]

If it's the kind of guy with a habit of tarding out no matter where he goes and getting thrown out or arrested, that's wrangling.

maybe, but that’s not a hugely regular occurrence with Chris.
Plus that wouldn’t explain why he did the driving or met her at the airport.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

My theory for now is still that Caden paid her to mother Chris around (pun very much intended) after he left the group home and started living on his own. Then he made up some excuse on why she had to leave and would only visit very rarely ("her family is in Finland! Crazy, uh?"), dangling her as a carrot to keep Chris productive ("we have to pay for her flight tickets!")

I'm starting to think this is the most likely scenario for a very big reason. Caden set Chris up in a house that he bought, all by his lonesome. I don't think anyone would want Chris free wheeling around a property they own, in another state that they can't regularly keep an eye on. Blatantly allowing Chris unsupervised living conditions would be an absolute nightmare.

There's the whole "Chris doesn't listen to men" thing too. Someone like Flutter would be the exact sort of person that could get into Chris's head without him throwing a shitfit. Plus, you can't really get to "know" Chris just by talking to him because of his constant lies and other obfuscation. If you were trying to use him in a scheme, you need to have someone actually with him to verify or wrangle him in the right direction.

I did check flights quick and Charlotte is a connecting hub for flights out of Missouri. It could be that Caden pays for this woman to visit Chris, see what he's up to, tries motivating him, gets paid, and then flies back to Caden Country. In fact, you can see Chris's production quality on his videos being well beyond stuff he's done when his first few videos came out, then over the months, you can see the production quality going down to a level Chris can handle more or less.

 

[FinnSven]

I'm starting to think this is the most likely scenario for a very big reason. Caden set Chris up in a house that he bought, all by his lonesome. I don't think anyone would want Chris free wheeling around a property they own, in another state that they can't regularly keep an eye on. Blatantly allowing Chris unsupervised living conditions would be an absolute nightmare.

There's the whole "Chris doesn't listen to men" thing too. Someone like Flutter would be the exact sort of person that could get into Chris's head without him throwing a shitfit. Plus, you can't really get to "know" Chris just by talking to him because of his constant lies and other obfuscation. If you were trying to use him in a scheme, you need to have someone actually with him to verify or wrangle him in the right direction.

I did check flights quick and Charlotte is a connecting hub for flights out of Missouri. It could be that Caden pays for this woman to visit Chris, see what he's up to, tries motivating him, gets paid, and then flies back to Caden Country. In fact, you can see Chris's production quality on his videos being well beyond stuff he's done when his first few videos came out, then over the months, you can see the production quality going down to a level Chris can handle more or less.

Yeah but why not just hire someone local, or at least someone who can drive?

If Chris starts doing odd stuff in the house, then surely Caden would prefer someone who could actually get there in a reasonable time frame.

Maybe Caden hired her to go visit, which still seems like a stretch, but ok.

But it’s highly doubtful that she is a wrangler or caretaker.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I'm starting to think this is the most likely scenario for a very big reason. Caden set Chris up in a house that he bought, all by his lonesome. I don't think anyone would want Chris free wheeling around a property they own, in another state that they can't regularly keep an eye on. Blatantly allowing Chris unsupervised living conditions would be an absolute nightmare.

There's the whole "Chris doesn't listen to men" thing too. Someone like Flutter would be the exact sort of person that could get into Chris's head without him throwing a shitfit. Plus, you can't really get to "know" Chris just by talking to him because of his constant lies and other obfuscation. If you were trying to use him in a scheme, you need to have someone actually with him to verify or wrangle him in the right direction.

I did check flights quick and Charlotte is a connecting hub for flights out of Missouri. It could be that Caden pays for this woman to visit Chris, see what he's up to, tries motivating him, gets paid, and then flies back to Caden Country. In fact, you can see Chris's production quality on his videos being well beyond stuff he's done when his first few videos came out, then over the months, you can see the production quality going down to a level Chris can handle more or less.

And given how Flutter somehow shows up in Chris's life immediately after Chris is outside of the prison system, this lines up with how Caden already had a house (and potentially had bought a bunch of toys for Chris as well, implied from the time Chris posted pictures of a bunch of donations he was making and the figures were a couple years old meaning they would have had to been bought during his incarceration). Plus, Caden could tell Chris to keep mum on Flutter in return for something.

The Convention was the breaking point, because of all the attention she was getting, and Chris hasn't been allowed to bitch about it or he doesn't know she's out of the loop.

 

[Ammyterasu]

Yeah but why not just hire someone local, or at least someone who can drive?

If Chris starts doing odd stuff in the house, then surely Caden would prefer someone who could actually get there in a reasonable time frame.

Maybe Caden hired her to go visit, which still seems like a stretch, but ok.

But it’s highly doubtful that she is a wrangler or caretaker.

I don't think one could easily find a woman up for such a task. Even Fiona with all her autism and an inexplicable crush on Chris wanted to have only a one night stand with him, as she told Bella.

I just can't believe someone crazier that her showed up on her own volition coincidentally when Chris was in the middle of a big change and about to go back online full time. And if she had nothing to do with Caden, would he really have believed in such short time that she wasn't a troll encroaching his territory and his monopoly on Chris?

Maybe it's more likely she's part of Praetor and joined after Chris was sent to jail, that way he would have believed she was just a fan writing him a letter. Caden seems to have the baffling ability of finding girls willing to do crazy things for him, like that other Praetor member who made a OnlyFans account to also help the group.

 

[ye's Official KF Burner]

I don't think one could easily find a woman up for such a task. Even Fiona with all her autism and an inexplicable crush on Chris wanted to have only a one night stand with him, as she told Bella.

I just can't believe someone crazier that her showed up on her own volition coincidentally when Chris was in the middle of a big change and about to go back online full time. And if she had nothing to do with Caden, would he really have believed in such short time that she wasn't a troll encroaching his territory and his monopoly on Chris?

Maybe it's more likely she's part of Praetor and joined after Chris was sent to jail, that way he would have believed she was just a fan writing him a letter. Caden seems to have the baffling ability of finding girls willing to do crazy things for him, like that other Praetor member who made a OnlyFans account to also help the group.

The not being able to drive and high anxiety about being identified seem to be on par with someone who is terminally online but went out of their way to participate in whatever bullshit this is. I'm willing to put money on her being part of Praetor or adjacent to the group. That behavior just screams "30 something still living with parents but leading a double life on the internet."

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Isn't

The not being able to drive and high anxiety about being identified seem to be on par with someone who is terminally online but went out of their way to participate in whatever bullshit this is. I'm willing to put money on her being part of Praetor or adjacent to the group. That behavior just screams "30 something still living with parents but leading a double life on the internet."

That's what leads me to believe that she's with Praetor. The effort she went to hide herself is pretty suspicious

 

[AnOminous]

maybe, but that’s not a hugely regular occurrence with Chris.

Well at one point he was banned from every local business to the point he had to drive out of town to buy anything.

And it's really common whenever he goes somewhere new like a con.