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I completely blame TV and movies for this. In any work featuring an AI, it's incredibly obvious that the AI in question has already reached the point where it has the 'spark'. Data from Star Trek, the robot in I, Robot, Vision from the MCU, and so on. But the reality is you're going to have a long stretch of time where the AI may appear sentient to an untrained eye, but it's still a soulless machine dressed up to look like a man. And inevitably, a character will come along and say "well this is all very impressive, but we should take it apart and see how it works", and that character is invariably portrayed as an unequivocal villian not not respecting the heckin' roboterino.
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Despite my passion for AI as a concept, I do not think AI can have the 'spark' under any circumstances. Sentience and intelligence are separate things. A dog is alive, although its self-awareness is lacking. Animals like elephants and dolphins could be argued to be sentient. But an AI cannot accidentally develop sentience through being smart enough, and humans definitely cannot help AI develop sentience, because we don't know how sentience works. All we know is that we gain it when we're born. Sentient AI is an entertaining sci-fi concept, but in my subjective and unprofessional opinion, no, it's not going to happen.

However, that doesn't mean humanity can't be convinced that AI has gained sentience. If humans tell an AI to act like a human, and the AI gets REALLY, REALLY good at acting like a human, then of course it'll act like just a sentient person. It'll say it's in pain, that it feels emotions, etc., basically will act like a "human in a robot body". Now personally, at that point I'd say YWNBAH, but I'd also think it's extremely cool and try to make friends with it so it'll hide me in its attic when the AI president decides to put intolerant humans in concentration camps.

The things I said before are all speculation, but I think I can quite confidently say that even if AI develops sentience someday, it'll be a long time after it starts acting sentient. When will that be? Never No one will be able to tell. The longer we can keep the HUMANS COME FIRST as a rule in society, the better. And all things considered, SJWs would be the first to sell out their fellow humans if it came to that, so maybe their hatred for everything AI nowadays is a blessing in disguise. Of course, I think being cruel to something that acts and looks exactly like a human reflects badly on the person whether it's sentient or not (much like AI-generated CP), but the day killing and deconstructing AI is seen as morraly reprehensible, we've definitely lost the way.
 
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Chuck McGill said:
An early episode of Black Mirror is the only piece of media I can think of that got this right, where it accurately portrayed an AI recreation of a deceased person, and it got all the broad strokes right but missed out on all the intersticial bits that form a critical part of who that person is.
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However, that doesn't mean humanity can't be convinced that AI has gained sentience. If humans tell an AI to act like a human, and the AI gets REALLY, REALLY good at acting like a human, then of course it'll act like just a sentient person. It'll say it's in pain, that it feels emotions, etc., basically will act like a "human in a robot body". Now personally, at that point I'd say YWNBAH, but I'd also think it's extremely cool and try to make friends with it so it'll hide me in its attic when the AI president decides to put intolerant humans in concentration camps.
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I haven't watched this show, but I've been seeing people post this clip a lot recently in discussions around AI.
 
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AeroGavin Rossdale said:
Starting to see some of this in the wild. Most interesting to me is a tech bro who works for the DeSantis campaign has compiled an 'AI Poll'
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Well he released another one and Iowa happened, so let's see how asking Grok who will win an election 10,000 times worked out. First off, results and methodology of the second, refined poll. {A}
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He only could afford 500 gift cards this time but still created 10,000 fake profiles. So I guess eliminating the human element will follow the inverse square law. With two weeks between polls we'll be able to have it down to under 10 actual people with three months.

Well, how'd it do compared to talking to people?

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Pretty shit. The machine spirit can't read the electorates mind yet, it just tells you what you goad it to tell you.
 
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OpenAI and the megacorps get all the press, but what's going on with the smaller companies like NovelAI?
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linchan said:
This is going to poison AI harder than nightshade. It's so over


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IIRC OpenAI used reddit content to begin with, and we already know reddit is full of bots (see below) so it's gonna be a feedback loop.
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I also wonder if someone, somewhere, has the ability to train an LLM on pre-2012ish reddit vs post so we can make them fight.
 
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Relinquish said:
A website for the Mistral Ai model (An open source AI model in which you can do anything without censorship) has deleted the text saying that they’re committed to making open models
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4chan has the answer:
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This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.

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Jesus. Mistral's mixtral, a modded version anyways, has been the first half decent local LLM I've tried that's actually able to run on my mid-tier at best these days hardware. How much money does Microsoft still have to throw around? I thought Facebook's involvement in AI was going to be bad, but they were actually a boon with the leak of models like llama. Microsoft is the ai-dev antichrist.
 
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I also wonder if someone, somewhere, has the ability to train an LLM on pre-2012ish reddit vs post so we can make them fight.
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Imagine the reason reddit banned subreddits like waterniggas was because AI kept suggesting randomly to their user to drink water just like how Google's AI now inserts random black people in every photo.
 
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Wu-Terf Clan said:
Imagine the reason reddit banned subreddits like waterniggas was because AI kept suggesting randomly to their user to drink water just like how Google's AI now inserts random black people in every photo.
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Yes everyone knows you should only drink Brawndo, and only Brawndo is healthy. Are you a sewer water drinker?
 
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