Press release: “Incels” need mental health support rather than a counter terrorism intervention, the world’s largest study of Incels finds (accessible

Link: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...rlds-largest-study-of-incels-finds-accessible

A ground-breaking study has discovered the complex relationship between mental health, a shared worldview and the social networking of involuntary celibate (incel) communities.

The Commission for Countering Extremism (CCE) commissioned the Swansea University Research on the Incel Community (SURIC) to produce this report. This is the largest global study of incels to date.

Key findings:​

• The answer to the incel phenomenon is more closely aligned to mental health support than counter terrorism interventions.
• Mental Health: Incels typically display extremely poor mental health, with high incidences of depression and suicidal thoughts (one in three incels contemplated suicide every day for the past two weeks). They are also more likely to be neurodivergent, with a higher likelihood of diagnosis for autism spectrum disorder.
• Attitudes and Beliefs: Participants perceived high levels of victimhood, anger, and misogyny. They acknowledged a shared worldview among incels which includes identifying feminists as a primary enemy. They also identified the political (far) left, wider society and women as enemies.
• Approval of violence: There exists a small cohort (5%) who ‘endorse the use of violence to defend their community. When asked if they justify violence against people that incels perceive as causing harm to them, 5% of respondents said ‘Often’. Around 20% said “Sometimes”.
• Political beliefs: Many commentators have suggested a link between incels and the far right. However, this survey found that incels were politically centre-left on average. The exception was the 5% who agreed that violence against individuals that that cause incels harm is often justified; these individuals were politically centre-right.
• Predicting harm: Mental Health and adoption of incel Ideology were significantly more likely to predict the development of harmful views than Social Networking (time spent on social network sites, amount of interaction with others, content generation, and exposure to radical people and content).

Commissioner for Countering Extremism, Robin Simcox said:

What incels truly think and believe has been the source of consistent speculation and conjecture. However, all of us – including those who work in counter extremism – should be led by the evidence.
This study is the most exhaustive research into incels yet and provides a major challenge to conventional wisdoms on the topic. It is no surprise to see the authors uncovered alarming and unacceptable attitudes of misogyny and hatred towards women from incels.
However, the report’s findings suggest that adopting a security or counter-terrorism lens towards incels is not often going to be the most appropriate response. Neither is scaremongering about them forming part of a global Extreme Right Wing threat.
Where there is a risk of violence, the appropriate authorities must always be informed. However, finding ways to ensure this desperate, depressed cohort of men, often with poor mental health, are integrated into society and given appropriate support should also be a key part of any response.

Notes to editors​

• Predicting Harm Among Incels (Involuntary Celibates): The Roles of Mental Health, Ideological Belief and Social Networking will be published on the CCE website at 9am on Thursday 15 February.
• This research was published as part of the CCE’s ‘Rethinking Extremism’ series, to present innovative and thought-provoking research to government, counter-extremism professionals, and the wider public. It forms part of a wider CCE approach to providing advice and scrutiny to government on the approaches needed to counter extremism.
• The research was undertaken by Dr Joe Whittaker, Dr Andrew G. Thomas and William Costello from the Swansea University Research on the Incel Community (SURIC).
• For further information, please contact info@counteringextremism.gov.uk

 

[WhiskeyJack]

The next article will recommend affordable lifelike sex robots.

 

[Rekeita's Kidneys]

let's be real, whatever "mental health support" they are proposing will have the exact same effect as whatever "counterterrorism interventions" they were previously talking about: none at all.

The US needs it's annual mass shootings, after all... How else can we get the commoner to disarm themselves?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

‘It’s more centre left’

No shit. The Right aren’t terrified of women. The Left have to walk on eggshells for everything. No shit they aren’t talking to women.

 

[Not Really Here]

So you're saying ostracizing the already mentally unstable isn't effective?
Huh, who'd a thunk.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

"How do we fix incels?"

Taxpayer-funded pocket pussy.

If incel is a "mental illness", it is a disability and the pocket pussy is medically necessary.

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

Nah keep making fun of them and further isolating them from society. I'm sure nothing bad will come from a majority of men being shunned as a cast of unlovable loosers and wage slaves. I mean at best they may just check out of that society and cause a collapse. At worst they may decide chad and stacy need to die. so keep going it'll be fine.

 

[Bork Laser]

We should put them in camps to help concentrate better on things other than women. A final solution to the Incel Question.

 

[Midwest Midwit]

This should be pretty self obvious. Studies have shown right-wingers tend to care about their physical appearance more than leftists, and are therefor better looking and/or are committed to traditional views of man as provider/protector of his wife which appeals to women regardless of political leaning.

It all depends who they asked and how they measured this stuff. I fully expect it to have been a bunch of zombie university graduates making an absolute pig's ear of it.

I would say that 90+% of self-identifying incels are broadly right wing in their beliefs. There are many left wingers who are incel but they would never associate themselves with the word. They just call themselves asexual or troon out.

Furthermore, a substantial proportion of incels are non-white; another fact that leftists and the media wish wasn't true. Ricecels, currycels and sandcels are many and they typically hold very traditional/right wing views but they probably still vote Dem for the freeebies.

I don't trust the research team to have understood this kind of nuance.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I agree with this. Most "incels" are just autists who've convinced themselves that it isn't even worth trying to meet people.

Another "INCELS ARE WORSE THAN EVERY TERRORIST COMBINED ACTUALLY!" article to fear monger. Despise the fact that there have been only 3 mass shootings that are at all directly linked to the 'incel movement" itself.

They're actually saying the opposite.

 

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

I thought the role of autism within inceldom was common knowledge. A lot of it often stems from theory of mind, and the social inability to conncet and understand others. Hence, with a failure of communication we would then expect them to not respond and interact with the other sex which helps to result in a loss of confidence. This, ultimately helps to bring on views of worthlessness, depression and lonelyness from social isolation and not being like "chad". The inceldom, manosphere racket helps pushes false narratives which susceptible people believe. "Oh you want to be like Tryone banging 20 chicks a night? Just follow our simple tutorial". Which, as with autists they are more prone to isolating themselves with online communities who then go on to help reinforce said beliefs. Thus, the role of autism pushes people in the direction of inceldom because of a lack of theory of mind and as such, they are doomed to fall without proper intervention which there is no incentive to push for. I mean, I've discussed similar things on the trans-thoughts thread probably over a year ago at this point.

Same thing with a subgroup of trannies. This is basically why the Incel-Trans pipeline exists. It's the failure of fitting in, and not understanding why that leads people to lovebombing and communal acceptance. It's just trying to rationalize the cause.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Wow instead of demonizing lonely lost men we try to help them? Who ever would of thought of that.

 

[DumbDude43]

I thought the role of autism within inceldom was common knowledge. A lot of it often stems from theory of mind, and the social inability to conncet and understand others. Hence, with a failure of communication we would then expect them to not respond and interact with the other sex which helps to result in a loss of confidence. This, ultimately helps to bring on views of worthlessness, depression and lonelyness from social isolation and not being like "chad". The inceldom, manosphere racket helps pushes false narratives which susceptible people believe. "Oh you want to be like Tryone banging 20 chicks a night? Just follow our simple tutorial". Which, as with autists they are more prone to isolating themselves with online communities who then go on to help reinforce said beliefs. Thus, the role of autism pushes people in the direction of inceldom because of a lack of theory of mind and as such, they are doomed to fall without proper intervention which there is no incentive to push for. I mean, I've discussed similar things on the trans-thoughts thread probably over a year ago at this point.

Same thing with a subgroup of trannies. This is basically why the Incel-Trans pipeline exists. It's the failure of fitting in, and not understanding why that leads people to lovebombing and communal acceptance. It's just trying to rationalize the cause.

you wanna argue that we're looking at something like 30% of the population being autistic? nah bro that's not real

 

[Night Crawler]

What they need is to jack off to some fucking porn and get a fucking clue. No one is fucking as much as they want. They sure as hell aren't fucking super models or female porn stars 7 days a week.

Go fuck some ugly bitch a fat bitch or shut the fuck up and stop whining.

You have no one else to blame for your lack of pussy but yourself. Stop being such a stuck up a faggot.

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

Incels don't need therapy, they need wives.

Nonononono, this is how you end up with India.

 

[Ser Prize]

Incels are largely victims of a shitty overly socialized overly technological society that nobody really likes but we perpetuate anyways because it's highly profitable for corporations.

Yes there are legit maniacs like Elliot Rodgers put there but a majority of incels are average to slightly above average guys working in tech who would be married with kids 40 years ago.

And no half of all men ages 18-35 having little to no sexual experience isn't normal or healthy for society.

The real shocking number is that while it's like 60 something percent of men who are virgins/single it's only like 30 something percent for women.

Sexual liberation came and what did women do? Recreated fucking harems.

Oh nonononono libtard bros?
As for the rest, no shit? But I think that's still not going to solve the problems in our society. Better mental treatment is good but it's not going to stop feminism or the fact that standards of living are dropping, driving many to extremism.

Better mental treatment is a meme. Maybe 30 years ago, but the modern approach to mental health is cancer that doesn't actually help people improve themselves to normalcy.

 

[30+GameOvers]

The most obvious answer and libtards chose to indulge the hatred they so often claim they abstain from instead lol

Why wouldn't they? Libtards hate men, they hate masculinity and they love humiliating their opponents. I bet they get off when they kill themselves or neet themselves to an early grave, they make for easy strawmen and mass shooting grooming targets as well. How they treat incels is a preview of how they will treat everybody once they have enough power universally, once everyone is demoralized.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

This would be satire a decade ago, and would just confuse people back in the 80's or 90's. Virgins weren't despised or demonized as literal terrorists, just mocked in movies like Revenge of the Berds and 40 Year Old Virgin. Make a film about them now and it won't be a playful comedy, it'd be closer to a propagandistic version of Joker.

 

[God of Nothing]

This would be satire a decade ago, and would just confuse people back in the 80's or 90's. Virgins weren't despised or demonized as literal terrorists, just mocked in movies like Revenge of the Berds and 40 Year Old Virgin. Make a film about them now and it won't be a playful comedy, it'd be closer to a propagandistic version of Joker.

Opening of the movie would be a montage of some boy going through life. His parents get divorced, he's being taught bullshit in school, and missing out on stuff because people are on their phones or just not interested. No one's pushing or guiding him either. Maybe have one scene in college where it seems like something's going to happen only for it to veer nowhere. The meat of the movie is him realizing in his office job or wagie hell he's a grown man who hasn't lived at all. It's not that he's awkward around women or anything but they don't really acknowledge he exists until they need him, like almost everyone else.

Not really an incel film than one about modern life for a man, I guess. Jesus Christ, half of people are from split families. We don't say shit because it's so common, but we don't acknowledge the effects of that either. Is it really any wonder when half of people have no idea what a functioning relationship is or looks like no one is being born?

 

[Bungdit Din]

I agree with this. Most "incels" are just autists who've convinced themselves that it isn't even worth trying to meet people.

It isn't.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

>UK is simping for Incels
>Incels are just the early steps of being a tranny
And here I taught that the UK was based and committing trans genocide. Now they won't even gas the proto trannies.