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Still angry that there is no manga adaptation for episode 2 and 3.
I really liked the manga adaptations of Star Wars
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we're on a gangstalking forum for the sonichu guy, we're not exactly the pulse of normal society
I generally try to ignore when you constantly clearly weren't there for any of that shit but holy fuck nigga you weren't there for ANY of that shit
nobody gave a FUCK about jedi "demystifying" shit from 1983 through 1999. I literally saw Jedi in a fucking theater and nobody EVER said a fucking thing in my life, playground, school, nerd forums, game stores, NOBODY about "oh well, in Jedi vader blahblah" worst you'd find is like Clerks about muppets and upbeat endings
some preschooler yelling YIPPIE was absofucking lutely a big fucking deal for "THIS is fucking Vader?"
there was even some "ehh" about the early poster of him with Vader as the shadow
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LOL Vader went from the biggest badass in space in ESB to the Emperor's little bitch dog in ROTJ. A practice dummy for Luke to smack around and for Sidious to manipulate, which is not consistent with how Vader was portrayed in ESB, when Vader proposed to Luke to join forces to overthrow the Emperor so they could replace him and rule the galaxy. And then they unmasked him, showing him to be a sickly old man. THAT is demystifying. In the space of one movie, dude goes from the strongest mortal roaming in the SW galaxy to a practice dummy who happens to be a sick old man, who can't even stand up on his own since his life-support is fried.
At least Anakin in 1999 was just a kid, so him going YIPPIE is just him being an idealistic kid, not that surprising because he was going to become a Jedi. It was the dream of many young boys in Star Wars, and it just came true for him. That was DECADES before he got jaded enough to become a fascist and put on the suit. Like I said, it's similar to real life. Heinrich Himmler as a younger man was a Catholic goodboy who was idealistic about defending his faith, then later he threw that away, became a jaded occultist, and helped the Austrian Painter slaughter millions. Palpatine is the Space Hitler of Star Wars. Vader, being Palpatine's top henchman, is literally the Space Himmler of Star Wars. So whether Lucas intended it or not, his fictional version of Space Himmler shared more than a few similarities with the original article, down to the point where they were cheerfully optimistic about following and defending a faith they would later renounce.
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whatever
I'll do like last time you failed
give me FIVE examples circa the release of Return Of The Jedi that support this view
hell, I'll be generous like I was later last time you failed, early since I gotta get to bed
give me THREE examples published in print media legit enough to get a upc barcode like Starlog up through the Special Editions in theaters
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LOL, you're really going down this route. How adorable. Relying on the media, of all people, to justify your argument.
If the media rags were an objective source of truth, then we'd all be wrong since we didn't see that The Last Jedi was the greatest Star Wars movie of all. There were endless articles on how TLJ was a peerless master-class of storytelling and how the chuds were wrong to not like it.
And don't give me bullshit on how ''oh, back in the 70s-90s, they weren't woke'' when the media has always been woke, even back then. I mean, fuck, they were shoving Captain Planet in people's faces for years in the 90s. Not to mention peddling that whole ''we're losing in Vietnam'' BS during the 70s while the American army was actually outperforming the Vietcong and fucking slaughtered them during the Tet Offensive.
Jeez loweez. 2,942 pages of shitting on the media and its shills for being wrong about Star Wars, and all of a sudden, you want to turn to them now as a source of truth. Fuck me, that's hilarious.
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Doesn't mean we're wrong, though. It just means we're a bit more autistic about being correct.
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Which is a waste of fucking time in the end. But hey, it's fun, so we do it.
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Not really fair to compare the news media of 3-4 decades ago with the news media of today. They're world's apart.
Also, news media can be an objective source of truth--it all depends on what standards are being followed. In which case, all @XYZpdq Jr. is doing is looking for publications that support the views in question. If those views are well-reasoned, then they might very-well be objective.
Don't throw an entire blanket over news media in general and call the whole thing "woke." That would be retarded.
Also, news media can be an objective source of truth--it all depends on what standards are being followed. In which case, all @XYZpdq Jr. is doing is looking for publications that support the views in question. If those views are well-reasoned, then they might very-well be objective.
Don't throw an entire blanket over news media in general and call the whole thing "woke." That would be retarded.
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Then you haven't been paying attention. Especially with how even back then, many in the media carried opinions that are quite similar to people in the pozzed side today. It's just that they're more open about these things now since there's more ''acceptance'' towards forms of life that would be considered degenerate in their time.
That's the thing; they coat their lies in a cloak of truth. 9 times out of 10 they tell you the truth, but 1 time in 10 they push their agenda. Even if it means lying about things like the Tet Offensive.
What's ''retarded'' is ignoring the history-the fact that the same media apparatus that's pushing SJW ideology today pushed left-leaning views in the 70s and 90s. It's been a constant, uphill battle for them to get the public to accept their views. What, did you think the woke hive mind was just born in 2014? If you really are that fucking naive then I've got some snake oil to sell you that can cure everything from cancer to impotency.
It was born long before you or me. A product of a union between the Soviets' attempts to undermine the USA from within, and willing collaborators and ideologues who were more than ready to accept foreign subversions, either because they believed in Communism, or didn't like the ruling class in America.
You're asking media opinion pieces for objective truths. Damn. Where the hell did you people go to school?
That, and what I state is easily observable ON THE BIG SCREEN. It is not a matter of debate. You don't need puff pieces from left-wing hacks to prove something you can see WITH YOUR OWN EYES.
ESB portrayed a Vader who was in control of everything, from the officers of his ship to the cosmic energies around him. Yoda and Kenobi feared him, to the point where Yoda doesn't want Luke to go and Kenobi's a ghost because of Vader. Vader's mere presence spreads palpable dread, among rebels and imperials alike. And when he went ham on Luke, the fact that the boy was his son was the ONLY thing that saved him-if Vader didn't care for the boy, you can bet your ass he'd lose more than a hand. The best the Rebels and the Jedi can do is RUN. Not to mention that Vader kneeling before the Emperor was a symbol of false submission; when he does get to Luke, he proposes to the boy that they join forces and destroy the Emperor, so that Vader and Luke can take his place. Vader was the ultimate badass in ESB, a being with no loyalty to anyone save himself and his blood, a man who was so terrifying that seasoned officers and fighting men have to obey him unquestioningly, and the best they can do if they fail is appeal to his mercy, of which he had none.
Fast forward to ROTJ. At first, we see the same Vader as before, frightening the redshirts, giving the local Moff some ''encouragement'' to get the Death Star ready on time. But when we see him later with Luke and Palpatine, his plan to join forces with Luke and take down the Emperor suddenly........disappeared. All of a sudden, he's a subservient little pup, doing whatever his master tells him, even AFTER Luke made the offer to him. Luke was there, fully trained and equipped, and the boy would've probably joined his father if they went up against their true enemy. Yet Vader remains subservient to the old Emperor, trying to tell Luke to be a good little boy, even though the boy has more than enough power to kill them both, which makes Vader's warnings to Luke seem all the more silly. The Emperor even told Vader that they'd need to work together just to subdue Luke, which meant that if Vader and Luke joined forces, the Emperor would become a distant memory.
Then during the battle, Vader is barely even keeping up, just getting slapped around by Luke, and it's just thanks to Luke's mercy that he lives. And when he pushes Luke too far by proposing that Leia would join him instead, he goes hogwild and crushes Vader like a bug. OK, sure, Vader is weaker than Luke, that's fine, but Vader didn't even put up a real fight. Then later, Luke refuses to strike down the Emperor and goes for the noble, peaceful route of refusing him, and so the Emperor barbecues Luke with lightning, thanks to Yoda not teaching Luke how to stop Force attacks.
But apparently, all it takes to kill the Emperor is Vader getting close enough to grab him and toss him into the reactor shaft. A weakened Vader who was missing a hand and his blade was able to kill the Emperor. Which makes it even sillier that Vader is so scared of the guy and kept trying to tell Luke to be subservient to him. If a weakened, battle-damaged Vader can do that, I'm pretty sure a fully-prepared Vader could've done it. At this point, the conversation should've been less along the lines of ''PLZ be good and be subservient to the Emperor'' and more like ''OK, son, this is what we're going to do-when he monologues for X amount of time, keep him talking while I position myself in the right angle so I can tackle the old fart into the reactor shaft.''
And when they take off Vader's mask, you finally solve the mystery of who this man is. Just a sick old man, who should have died long ago, kept alive only by artificial means, who can't even stand on his own now that his life support is fried. There it is. No more mystery. He's just a human who made some wrong choices, got turned into an android, and now, the best thing he can settle for is seeing his son's face with his real eyes before he kicks the bucket. After ROTJ, it is impossible to look at Vader the same way again from ANH and ESB. Prior to that, one might still think that he's a mysterious warrior, or a vengeful bastard, but after we see what's behind the mask, we see the real Vader; a sick old man, kept alive by machines, which gives credence to what Obi-Wan said, ''he's more machine than man, twisted and evil.''
That is more de-powering that having a little kid version of Vader........act like a little kid. I mean, many monsters in real life weren't born as monsters. They were kids once, full of optimism and hope. Then they get dealt a bad hand and make the wrong deal with the wrong people, or make the wrong life choices, and they become monsters. Like I said, if Palpatine is Space Hitler, Vader, being his right-hand man, would be Space Himmler, and the real Heinrich Himmler didn't start off as a monster. Yes, shocking, I know, humans who killed millions of people once used to be good little boys who recited their prayers and said ''I love you'' to mommy and daddy before tucking in at night. They didn't pop out of the womb with a butcher's knife and a taste for blood. Their experiences and life choices are what shaped them.
When he was younger, Heinrich Himmler was a Catholic goodboy who merely sought to defend the faith of his forefathers, just like how Anakin sought to be a good little Jedi. But as the years went on and Himmler changed as a person thanks to his experiences and life choices, he later became a jaded occultist war criminal who later though shoving Polish Catholics, Jews, Gypsies, and other undesirables into ovens or work camps to kill them was a good idea. Just like how Vader later decided that slaughtering all the Jedi and supporting the Emperor was a good idea. Whether by accident or design, Lucas' Space Himmler has more than a few similarities with the real deal.
So when you bitch about kid Vader acting like a little kid, not only do you ignore the previous movie which depowered Vader to the point where the whole world now knows he's just a sick man hiding behind an iron mask, but you also ignore the real-world history that Star Wars takes inspiration from, where monsters don't start out as monsters, but once had hopes and dreams, only to become jaded as life goes on and they never achieved said dreams, only to be dealt a bad hand, and deciding to compensate for that by making some morally questionable choices.
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Looks like Rogue Squadron is back on the menu, according to Patty Jenkins.
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There are no methods of research that forbid the citation of newspaper articles so long as the content is original and has not been copied elsewhere. News media articles qualify as a primary source information for the purposes of academia and so there is no reason not to refer to them as objective resources and a means of supporting an abstract.
Besides, this thread is completely informal, so even demanding an "objective" reference is absurd.
Besides, this thread is completely informal, so even demanding an "objective" reference is absurd.
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Yes, and most news media at the time.........didn't really cover Vader being de-powered as Little Anakin. At most they just thought Jake Lloyd to be an annoyance, which is the most I can remember from the critics of the time, but the opinion that he somehow made Vader lesser by being a kid yelling YIPPIE is something that's mostly fan opinion.
As far as the journalists were concerned, Vader's just some villain from some film series with fans that act like weirdos. Remember, this was back then when nerd hobbies were not mainstream, and anyone with respectable positions in society treated sweaty nerd fanboys like lepers, so nobody wrote paper articles on things like whether or not Jake Lloyd's performance made Vader a less potent character.
The most I can remember the media people talking about Vader that was insightful other than ''LOL SCARY'' was Roger Ebert remarking on Vader being the first character in film history to be portrayed by three actors-David Prowse for the body, James Earl Jones for the voice, Sebastian Shaw for the face.
Also, again, you've lost the debate, hence why you're trying to move this to media instead of arguing the points yourself. Why can't you debate this on your own? This is really embarrassing. Not even replying directly, not even debating my points directly, whether it be about Vader or the media. Why? Is it because I speak the truth that's obvious to anyone with a working pair of eyes?
I wonder if they'll keep the shit from the SW Disneverse comics where the name ''Rogue Squadron'' was thought up on the fly by Luke as a tribute to Jyn Erso and her gang.
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I will never not stop being reminded of Jake Llyod's "YIPPEE!!" Whenever I see Darth Vader.
Thanks, George!
Thanks, George!
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And? The fact that you're autistic about a kid acting like a kid goes to show you don't see much of the real world.
ROTJ showed the world that Vader was just as weak, flawed, and soft like any human being, so him being a kid saying ''YIPEEE!'' made perfect fucking sense.
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I don't want to see the real world when I watch Star Wars. I want to see Star Wars.
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Yes, and Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi showed that Vader was just as soft, weak, and human as the rest of us. So it makes sense that kid Vader........acts like a fucking kid.
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I loved the part where Vader throws the Emperor down hole after getting shot by lighting thousands of times. That was brutal! Epic, even!
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He could've done that from the start. All he needed to do was position himself right while his son traded barbs with the old man. Then grab or football tackle the old man into the pit.
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It wasn’t a common critique but I’ve known a couple of fans in real life who felt that way. I remember prior to episode I that there were a fair number of older fans that really hated vi and some of them had that or a similar opinion regarding Vader. They also hated the Ewoks about as much as they would come to hate the gungans. At the time personally I thought episode vi was the shit.