Valve introduces Steam Deck

I have MC installed, added as a non-steam game, and have tried to use a bunch of the user contributed control mappings available via Steam.
You can use a launcher as a non-Steam game and install MidnightControls as a mod via Fabric. I recommend PrismLauncher despite the gayness, since PolyMC hasn’t been maintained in a while. I also recommend the performance/bug fix mods in the image, updated to your game version, since the deck can chug when loading chunks and entities and it’s extremely easy to add mods in the launcher. 1710538452870.jpeg
 
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I recommend PrismLauncher despite the gayness, since PolyMC hasn’t been maintained in a while.
I recommend ATLauncher because despite being a bit bloatier it's more robust and it's not a MultiMC fork, since those seem cursed. I haven't tried PolyMC/Prism because I didn't have a need for them before the fiasco, and I find ATLauncher to be incredibly smooth and handy when it comes to mod and modpack management since that's your main concern if you're looking for MultiMC forks.

MultiMC itself is fine, but it lacks those QoL features for mods that PolyMC added, and then the CoC drama happened.

If you need a launcher for manual modding, go with MultiMC.
If you need a launcher for automated modding, go with ATLauncher.

Scrumplex is a G*rman faggot and I hope he adds a disk wiper to Prism Launcher to own the hecking chuds.
 
just bought a deck
what game do you play the most on your deck?

Infinite Wealth and I often stress test it with PS3, Switch and Xbox 360 emulation.

As a kid, I always dreamed of playing The Ocean Hunter on a console. It never got ported to anything, ever. Now with the Deck, I can play it in one of the best ways possible.

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Sorry if I'm treating you like a retard, but I'll go with the whole process
No, that's appropriate lol. Thanks, I'll try following it.

Infinite Wealth and I often stress test it with PS3, Switch and Xbox 360 emulation.

As a kid, I always dreamed of playing The Ocean Hunter on a console. It never got ported to anything, ever. Now with the Deck, I can play it in one of the best ways possible.

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That looks fucking cool.
 
As a kid, I always dreamed of playing The Ocean Hunter on a console. It never got ported to anything, ever. Now with the Deck, I can play it in one of the best ways possible.
Oh wow, I forgot all about that game. Kinda surprised it never got ported around. I'm sure it'll show up in a Yakuza game someday.
 
I recommend ATLauncher because despite being a bit bloatier it's more robust and it's not a MultiMC fork, since those seem cursed. I haven't tried PolyMC/Prism because I didn't have a need for them before the fiasco, and I find ATLauncher to be incredibly smooth and handy when it comes to mod and modpack management since that's your main concern if you're looking for MultiMC forks.

MultiMC itself is fine, but it lacks those QoL features for mods that PolyMC added, and then the CoC drama happened.

If you need a launcher for manual modding, go with MultiMC.
If you need a launcher for automated modding, go with ATLauncher.

Scrumplex is a G*rman faggot and I hope he adds a disk wiper to Prism Launcher to own the hecking chuds.
I’ll check this out, thanks
 
Infinite Wealth and I often stress test it with PS3, Switch and Xbox 360 emulation.
How's your battery life doing? With switch it feels like I'm lucky if I get more than 1 hour of battery out of it. Only thing I do is disable SMT in PowerTools and I have a static brightness in the middleish. I do have the fans setup to go into it at a drop of a hat.
 
Infinite Wealth and I often stress test it with PS3, Switch and Xbox 360 emulation.

As a kid, I always dreamed of playing The Ocean Hunter on a console. It never got ported to anything, ever. Now with the Deck, I can play it in one of the best ways possible.

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that game looks sick as hell. a MAME emulator would kick ass.
I bought an SD card n junk so i could start emulating but ive been slow on the draw as ive been out of the emulating game for awhile
 
You can use a launcher as a non-Steam game and install MidnightControls as a mod via Fabric. I recommend PrismLauncher despite the gayness, since PolyMC hasn’t been maintained in a while. I also recommend the performance/bug fix mods in the image, updated to your game version, since the deck can chug when loading chunks and entities and it’s extremely easy to add mods in the launcher. View attachment 5818897
This is super helpful, I'll give it a shot later on today. Thanks!
 
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How's your battery life doing? With switch it feels like I'm lucky if I get more than 1 hour of battery out of it. Only thing I do is disable SMT in PowerTools and I have a static brightness in the middleish. I do have the fans setup to go into it at a drop of a hat.

At least 2.5 hours, 3.5 hours max. I have the OLED model so maybe that's the reason.
 
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Christ. I was expecting it to be either middling to basically like the other Windows handhelds, not that kind of mess. It's the most expensive too.
Yeah Intel isn't there yet, and will be further behind when portables with an AMD Z2 will come out.

but honestly I'm disappointed that nobody has offered a docking station for their portable yet that doesn't require fidding with a cable all the time. The Switch having a dock included in the box was it's killer feature. It slowed it to be both a portable and a tv system. A portable PC that you can dock and use like a regular PC would be much more possible. But as far as I know only the Lenovo Legion Go even has a connector on the bottom of the console so you don't have to fiddle with plugging something into the top
 
Yeah Intel isn't there yet, and will be further behind when portables with an AMD Z2 will come out.

but honestly I'm disappointed that nobody has offered a docking station for their portable yet that doesn't require fidding with a cable all the time. The Switch having a dock included in the box was it's killer feature. It slowed it to be both a portable and a tv system. A portable PC that you can dock and use like a regular PC would be much more possible. But as far as I know only the Lenovo Legion Go even has a connector on the bottom of the console so you don't have to fiddle with plugging something into the top
Counterpoint - if one USB port suffices on the console (i.e. Steam Deck) to operate the docked mode, why would you need more? It would only be a grime/dust catcher. At least with Steam Deck's hub it isn't an overt hassle to plug/unplug a single USB-C cable.
 
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Counterpoint - if one USB port suffices on the console (i.e. Steam Deck) to operate the docked mode, why would you need more? It would only be a grime/dust catcher. At least with Steam Deck's hub it isn't an overt hassle to plug/unplug a single USB-C cable.
The Switch dock isn't just a cable to connect it to a TV, it's the system's home. When not in use I can leave a Switch in it's dock and it's out of the way, charging, tidy, and ready to go, and it's a simple button press to play on TV or just grab-n-go for portable. With Steam Deck doing the same is just flat worse.
 

Christ. I was expecting it to be either middling to basically like the other Windows handhelds, not that kind of mess. It's the most expensive too.
You would have thought with the market share and money intel have they could put out a decent APU by now but they just get creamed by AMD in this segment.

Putting an intel chip into one of these handhelds based on how they stacks up against the competition from AMD seems stupid to me. Can only assume intel gave MSI a big bag of money to push this thing out.
 
I'm disappointed that nobody has offered a docking station for their portable yet that doesn't require fidding with a cable all the time. The Switch having a dock included in the box was it's killer feature. It slowed it to be both a portable and a tv system. A portable PC that you can dock and use like a regular PC would be much more possible. But as far as I know only the Lenovo Legion Go even has a connector on the bottom of the console so you don't have to fiddle with plugging something into the top
I'm hoping the revision that may eventually come for the legion fixes a lot of its issues. I was hoping it would be the clearly better choice for a windows based handheld PC. At this point I'm banking more on whatever Phil Spencer is cooking up for the rumored Xbox handheld. He sounds like he's trying to combine the best points of all of them into one complete package. https://www.polygon.com/24108660/xbox-handheld-console-phil-spencer-interview
Just give me the trackpads, back buttons and compatibility layer of the steam deck, the expansion port for a desktop GPU of the ROG Ally, the form factor of the Legion Go, the cooling of the MSI Claw put it all in one package with a tailored windows version that removes the bloatware and telemetry, you can throw the Xbox app on there if you want just as long as I can boot into desktop mode.
 
Can only assume intel gave MSI a big bag of money to push this thing out.
I haven't sperged about this in this thread yet? No? Okay.

Honestly, all of the "competitors" for the Deck just reek of corporate desperation to get their slice of the cake. For years handhelds like these existed, but were nothing but a niche due to their nature. GPD Win was the main player in that market, a niche Chinese company that was hacking around to make a handheld like that using Windows.

Then Valve decided to make some new hardware that would be cool, so they looked at the Nintendo Switch, they looked at GPD Win's shit, and decided to work some magic of being a privately held company that can take risks to deliver a compelling product to the market.

The result? Steam Deck.
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Now let's look at two major risks that they've taken in this product.

The biggest one: the use of Linux instead of Windows. Valve has taken major strides in bringing Windows game compatibility to Linux, dating back to their very first failed ventures into hardware that were the Steam Machines. And since they don't want to be dependent on Microsoft for their product, and because by it's nature Windows cannot deliver a good experience in such an unusual form factor without ugly hacks, they've decided to create a dedicated Arch based distro for their machine. The end result is rather successful, so this gambit has paid off well, thanks to the level of control Valve has in this situation. It's their hardware, and it's their distro specifically for this hardware. Using Linux simply works here.

Now a less obvious one: controls. Valve wanted this to be a gaming PC, but not all PC games work well with your conventional gamepad, or they don't work at all. Plus, your typical PS/Xbox ergonomics won't exactly work well in such a device. They've decided to do something no other company did before, which is to put the analog sticks in line with the D-pad and action buttons. Not over, not under, not asymmetrically, in line. Then they added two haptic touch pads, since PC games are mainly designed with a mouse in mind. And of course some extra buttons on the back, all wrapped together with the magic of Steam Input. That gives plenty of freedom for doing a good control scheme for PC games in this form factor. And yeah there's the gyro and the touchscreen too.

With that Valve deep throating word salad out of the way, let's look at what happened after. Investors at all the big companies got a gigantic erection after they saw the success of Valve's very unique offering and decided that the companies they have stakes in need to make a competitor because it's an untapped goldmine, Valve is reaping all the rewards of it and they want a piece of it NOW. And they're only willing to take the risk now, because Valve took it first. Without a private company taking risks to innovate, those publicly traded conglomerates would never do shit.

And this is what they came up with:
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ASUS ROG Ally
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Lenovo Legion Go
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MSi Claw

All three of those don't take the two major risks that Valve took.

They don't use dedicated Linux distros, because that's scary, a typical consoomer will get lost in the Linux userspace and will want familiarity, they'll want Windows. So they all run on Windows, except Windows sucks ass for this form factor. Unless Microsoft goes out of it's way to give Windows 11 a handheld mode it will be shit to use, and it'll be Windows 11, bloated and annoying, with your average consoomer not knowing how to debloat it to make it acceptable. Any handheld oriented UI and functionality is an add-in piece of software from the manufacturer, and in all three cases it's half-assed.

Now look at the control scheme. Yep, they're playing it extremely safe, to the point of it being detrimental. ASUS ROG Ally and MSi Claw don't have a touchpad, and the Lenovo Legion Go has only one. And all three of them use the Xbox asymmetrical layout, because the average PC gamer is at most used to Xbox controllers since they work best with Windows, so let's use those, play it safe to not upset any consumers. Lenovo has that gimmick with detachable controllers, but it's just a gimmick, because they didn't bother to mirror any neat functionality that Nintendo has with their JoyCons. You just detach them and they work the same, but worse. Nothing extra beyond that.

So obviously every competitor for the Deck is designed by accountants, carefully calculated not to take any risks to keep investors happy. But you know what they technically do better than Valve? Raw performance. Because the design by committee wasn't obvious enough, the only real redeeming qualities these devices have over the Deck is bigger number better, completely ignoring everything that made the Deck the success it is, besides the low price because of Valve's freedom to sell it at a loss in a razor and blades business model.

The MSi Claw is the most desperate out of all of them. MSi has lost a lot of face with the consumers, from Gamers Nexus' Killshot video, to their social media manager catering to furries. Intel is also unfortunately struggling badly to keep up with the competition, and instead of investing money into R&D to make a good product, they came to MSi with a deal: you make this portable device with our current CPU's that struggle with power efficiency, and our current GPU's that struggle badly with drivers. MSi, instead of going with the safer option, went with the more riskier, but the one that got them better short term profit. A perfect representative of this brand new market.

tl;dr: every Steam Deck "competitor" is a lazy corporate cash grab and deserves to be spit upon, because if Valve didn't take the risk, they'd never be created. Publicly traded corporations stifle innovation as long as they don't have to innovate to bring profits to the investors and the entire corporate system we've created stops us from going forward as a species.

This was my TED talk, thanks for coming.
 
5 months into having my OLED & I gotta say, it's kino. I get a easy 6ish hours of battery life on most 360-era games, and around 4ish hours on PS4-era games. 90hz display is excellent for configuring the performance envelope to exactly where I want the battery life for me as well. I cleared out Borderlands 1 on it and I am now playing Singularity on it as well. Gave my old LCD model to a homie and he enjoys it.
 
PSA: The recent emudeck updates broke PS3 emulation.

I used to get a stable 30 fps on Littlebigplanet and even a constant 60 on jojo asb. Now, I barely crack 20. No idea why that is. Also, fullscreen mode doesn't work anymore in gaming mode, only desktop mode.
 
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