Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[markzuckerbergslave]

I had FASFA and I have over 30k in debt, that I’m still paying, what retards say this is free money? It’s a loan, sometimes you can be eligible for a loan that has no interest but that’s about it. I also got exactly one Pell grant in the 4yrs of college for $600, that’s it. I was making below minimum wage and living on my own so I essentially had to take everything FASFA would give me because it was supplemental income for cost of living. Literally most of my loan money went to my rent and bills because my job couldn’t even cover those expenses and I was trying to go to college to get a better job. This was over 10yrs ago so I can’t speak to if things have changed since then with that program, but that’s my experience.

Even If you go to a back water state school with 7-15k tuition a year you'd still have to pay a bit. I don't know why these people lie instead of conceding

 

[Quote Cursor]

Hasan spent like 15+ hours of stream time over 2 days breaking down in excruciating detail how bad it went for Destiny. So don't worry, he's not the only one looking for ways to milk his own public humiliation.


The argument Destiny makes that dolus specialis isn't mens rea is fucking absurd. Go back to DDG you simp.

Spoiler: Debate sperging

Dolus specialis is definitionally the type of mens rea required for genocide. This is like arguing you can't call bacon pork because it's a special subset of pork.

Also note that in this clip all Destiny really does is redirect the conversation away from Norm's point that court ruling that Israel was plausibly committing a genocide and deciding to spend years investigating it then this alone was remarkable and a sign that the case must have at least some merit. This kind of deflection from the points being made is basically all he does the entire debate.

On that last part... That also made me confused when I was listening to the debate, as you pointed out.

Spoiler: Law sperging

Mens Rea = Guilty Mind / Mental State that the Criminal had (E.g. (In)Direct Intention, Recklessness, Negligence). Wouldn't apply in Strict Liability cases where the Criminal Act (Actus Reus) is required for them.
Dolus Specialis = That specific Mental State for Genocide. (from my quick google of International Law on Genocide, "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such")

A quick google search would have told him that Dolus Specialis is a type of Mens Rea (something you see in 1st or maybe foundation year of Law School and even in Crime Documentaries). Which is even embarrassing because he doesn't even read the Wikipedia articles he skims... Unless I'm missing something myself?

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

Maybe this debate will convince people to stop treating twitch streamers as public intellectuals

 

[ovqsnfat]

On that last part... That also made me confused when I was listening to the debate, as you pointed out.

Spoiler: Law sperging

Mens Rea = Guilty Mind / Mental State that the Criminal had (E.g. (In)Direct Intention, Recklessness, Negligence). Wouldn't apply in Strict Liability cases where the Criminal Act (Actus Reus) is required for them.
Dolus Specialis = That specific Mental State for Genocide. (from my quick google of International Law on Genocide, "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such")

A quick google search would have told him that Dolus Specialis is a type of Mens Rea (something you see in 1st or maybe foundation year of Law School and even in Crime Documentaries). Which is even embarrassing because he doesn't even read the Wikipedia articles he skims... Unless I'm missing something myself?

You are, to the best of my and many others more qualified than me, not missing anything. He is either doing it on purpose to try and discredit his opponent in the eyes of the uninformed OR he is that fucking lazy and stupid. I'll leave it to the reader to decide which is worse.

Maybe this debate will convince people to stop treating twitch streamers as public intellectuals

Inshallah my brother, we can only hope.

 

[SBG]

He talked about this on today's stream (still live so can't link). He (again) ran with the psychotic line of "well, air strikes are signed off by multiple people, so there's no way they intentionally murdered these kids". He doesn't actually go on to justify why the air strikes happened, he just cries about how the IDF can never do anything wrong because people in the military approve air strikes.

Guy has an absurd amount of faith in bureaucracies and voices of 'authority', even when it's not a domestic one. Could swear he's talked about the "deep state" in a similar manner, so seems like a weird trend which makes him sound idiotic to anyone knowledgeable enough about a subject to not cede authority to random midwits of wikipedia.

 

[Nadine9]

I think it’s so incredibly pathetic that he’s been having a hissy fit for the past 3 days, like stop, get help If he thinks he’s soooo right then just leave it and move on, I mean there’s gotta be plenty of fart sniffing fans and orbiters validating him, but my guess is he wants more superior validation and he’s not getting it because superior validation would come from superior people and they don't even know who the fuck you are buddy or care. Many people don’t agree with the pro Israel-side in general so it will follow that they won’t take his side in the debate either and criticize him. He’s gonna get a shit ton of hate regardless because of the topic itself and because people don’t like him for a multitude of other reasons. It’s like if Alex Jones made a good point on something, I could concede it was a good point but I still think he’s a trash bag and will always remember how he said Sandy Hook was fake.

He’s seriously going to die on this hill of defending all his recently bad takes on the I/P debate (even though we all know he could give two shits about I/P) and now vaccines. I guarantee if he just started researching something else all this shit regarding him will be forgotten in like a week until the next retard shit to come out of his Vyvanse rattled brain but because he’s such a petulant, narcissistic child he will not let it go.

His vaccine comment about how there were divergent camps with Pfizer/Moderna vs J&J stems from the others proving more effective than the latter. He was trying to argue that people knew they were not 100% effective because this divide in vaccines happened. Now I have not done 4mo of Wikipedia research to declare myself well educated on the topic, but the only thing I ever heard about J&J was a risk of blood clots nothing about efficacy.

Totally random, but I was thinking about it while I was typing this, but we know Tiny prides himself on being a man of facts and receipts. Explain to me how he doesn’t even know facts about people he’s been close with. I remember him and Cherry fighting a little on Jstkl’s stream and he made an “ad hominem” if you will toward her saying she cut herself and she was like uh wrong girl, I don’t cut myself. Like Jesus, what a cretin.

 

[EZlover]

Awnuh is so desperate. It's actually painful, genuine second-hand embarassment.

I censored the picture so I didn't need to 'spoiler' it, and rotated the text so it's easier to read. It's a picture of her fake tits with 'I ❤ MY SITUATIONSHIP' shirt on. As expected, she put the story on her personal instagram so Destiny would see it, since she's desperate.

It has been a week since she force unfollowed everyone she didn't follow back in her alt, and completely privated her account. She has made 100+ tweets since then ('190 posts' vs '312 posts'). I wonder what sort of BPD powered mental breakdown she's having.

 

[Foltest]

I am one hour into the debate and I enjoy when Morris and Rabbani are going back and forth.
Those two know their stuff and it is good shit.

 

[Nigga who likes thighs]

This recent debate has reaffirmed my belief that the only reason destiny has an audience is that his equals (Vaush and Hasan) are somehow more retarded then him which gives him an edge

 

[World in Scarlet]

Finkelstein seems like an elitist.

Yeah, I think Finkelstein's extreme dislike for Destiny has less to do with Destiny's positions on the conflict, than with Finkelstein's ego being bruised by Destiny (imo correctly) calling him a hack fraud moron.

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One big criticism levelled at Finkelstein is that he quote mines things people say out of context to support very extreme statements that are sometimes in direct contradiction of what the person he quoted said in the full passage Finkelstein lifted a sentence or two from.
For example in this debate he quotes Morris, who sits right there, to support the claim that Zionists wanted to expel the Arabs from the start, but Morris says he was really talking about the lawful and peaceful acquisition of land by Jewish landowners, not at all violent expulsion. Finkelstein just ignores that reply, repeats the claim that Morris argued the position Finkelstein said he did, and adds more claims, which I think Morris responds to pretty well by saying you can't just take random statements made by historical figures and assume they are descriptive of general feelings and events. Finkelstein again doesn't really respond to that and talks about reading Morris's book, and how Morris supported Finkelstein's claim. He keeps coming back to that even after Morris said several times he is misrepresenting him and explaining how. It's mind numbing, even on 2x speed.
Finkelstein loves to brag about his credentials and how many books he read, but the arguments, he gives are based on deception and his style is obfuscation and manipulation. "I read 10,000 books", "I did my doctoral dissertation on Zionism". Then why can't he make arguments to support his ideas aside from quote mining? I guess it's tough for "historians" who don't know the languages most the primary documents and relevant scholarship is written in. In the light of that: "I speak slowly because I place value on what I say."

Finkelstein goes on about motormouth this and that, but it is Finkelstein who can't wait his turn to speak and blows his fuse.
Around 2h40min Finkelstein starts to talk over the other side while they are making their point, says he will answer a question, and then starts to talk about another topic when they allow the interruption in that light, then when his bullshit is interrupted in turn because it's irrelevant, he starts to act like the biggest victim for being interrupted and insults Destiny. His smug look after he thought he scored a point when he was allowed to regurgitate a memorized speech was so childish, same as his "forgetting" Destiny's name.

Combine that style with his extreme arrogance and glacial talking speed and he becomes painful to listen to.

I think both Morris and Rabbani had points where they looked better than the other, but people who say Finkelstein looked better than Destiny, or even good at all, are delusional. It was Finkelstein, not Destiny, who was disruptive and got personal to avoid addressing arguments he didn't like or mistakes he made.

An example paraphrased:
Destiny: "What data are those assessments about the living situation in Gaza pre October 7th actually based on?"
Finkelstein: "I have no idea. I never looked into it. I just quote the conclusion blindly in my books and speeches. I cannot comprehend methodology or material conditions."
No wonder he preferred to use insults rather than answer.

 

[ViM]

For example in this debate he quotes Morris, who sits right there, to support the claim that Zionists wanted to expel the Arabs from the start, but Morris says he was really talking about the lawful and peaceful acquisition of land by Jewish landowners, not at all violent expulsion. Finkelstein just ignores that reply, repeats the claim that Morris argued the position Finkelstein said he did, and adds more claims, which I think Morris responds to pretty well by saying you can't just take random statements made by historical figures and assume they are descriptive of general feelings and events. Finkelstein again doesn't really respond to that and talks about reading Morris's book, and how Morris supported Finkelstein's claim. He keeps coming back to that even after Morris said several times he is misrepresenting him and explaining how. It's mind numbing, even on 2x speed.

Yes, Morris says he was really talking about "lawful and peaceful acquisition of land" but Morris was being slippery and Finkelstein knew it. Morris himself wrote in 1988:

in unassailable statements, Ben-Gurion at this time (1937) repeatedly endorsed the idea of 'transferring' (or expelling) Arabs, or the Arabs, out of the area of the Jewish state-to-be, either 'voluntarily' or by compulsion.

but he knows he can't be as honest with an American audience as he can be with an Israeli audience so he pretends that he's somehow being misrepresented. Apparently it worked, and I'll grant that if you know nothing about the conflict or Benny Morris he could come off as fairly reasonable and convincing, though his mask started to slip near the end when he admitted that the only "international law" he respects is the Law of the Jungle.

Finkelstein goes on about motormouth this and that, but it is Finkelstein who can't wait his turn to speak and blows his fuse.
Around 2h40min Finkelstein starts to talk over the other side while they are making their point, says he will answer a question, and then starts to talk about another topic when they allow the interruption in that light, then when his bullshit is interrupted in turn because it's irrelevant, he starts to act like the biggest victim for being interrupted and insults Destiny. His smug look after he thought he scored a point when he was allowed to regurgitate a memorized speech was so childish, same as his "forgetting" Destiny's name.

It's kind of crazy you'd use that specific argument as an example because it's absolutely not in Destiny's favor. Kids were obliterated in a direct targeted airstrike, something agreed upon by
* all of the witnesses
* all of the evidence
* every independent investigator
and his brilliant counterargument, stretched to several minutes, is "no way bro, the IDF wouldn't do that, they investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong".
Finkelstein realized at that point that he was arguing with a complete imbecile and that there was nothing to be gained from arguing in good faith with someone that will repeat total falsehoods with absolute ignorant confidence so he switched to calling him a retard and mispronouncing his name. Probably the right move considering the circumstances.

An example paraphrased:
Destiny: "What data are those assessments about the living situation in Gaza pre October 7th actually based on?"
Finkelstein: "I have no idea. I never looked into it. I just quote the conclusion blindly in my books and speeches. I cannot comprehend methodology or material conditions."
No wonder he preferred to use insults rather than answer.

He could have said something like "the Israelis conducted studies to determine how to minimize caloric intake of Gazans just short of starvation" or how one official said he wanted to "put Palestinians on a diet" but Destiny would surely have nitpicked or made excuses considering he had just claimed that literally nuking Gaza wouldn't qualify as genocidal. Finkelstein didn't fall back on calling him a fantastic moron because he had no counterargument, he called him a fantastic moron because his debate style is completely dishonest. He asks a million idiotic questions totally irrelevant to the core of the issue and then when he finds one you don't want to answer he goes "Ah-ha! You don't want to answer my question in the specific way I ordered you to! That means you're dodging the question and I'm winning!" like when he thought the fact that his opponents didn't know the precise proportion of Israelis directly killed by Hamas (literally an unknowable figure) was some big win. Destiny's goal was never to get to the truth but to get an "own" that would convince his halfwit fans that he "destroyed" Finkelstein, even if that meant he had to completely deny reality.
Apparently it still works on some people.

 

[cia-log]

https://twitter.com/Ninjamastor/status/1768529635300556846

Just one example showing Norm is dead wrong but he called him a moron so he must be winning. Actual brain worms

the guy who made the video ctrl-f'ing "mens rea" ahahahahahahaahahahahahaha

I was considering going into a whole thing about how Destiny's style of research and debate suits him for local, current topics like Kyle Rittenhouse, where there aren't dozens of countries, decades of politics and and endless stream of academic literature the comb through, but this says it all.

like when he thought the fact that his opponents didn't know the precise proportion of Israelis directly killed by Hamas (literally an unknowable figure) was some big win.

That part was incredible. When Finkelstein said that even if 400 of the 800 civilians were killed by the IDF that day (in other words, the IDF and Hamas killed an equal number of people) 400 is still an enormous number and it would in no way change the fact that what Hamas did was heinous, Destiny seized on that and started rambling as though Norman said that the IDF really did kill 400 civilians, going on about conspiracy theories. He staked way too much of his ego on this debate and tried to get in his epic owns for twitter clips when he should've just stayed quiet. He kept asking reasonable questions in a moderated tone and then would immediately blow it by trying to squeeze some kind of gotcha out of it even after the other side answered him thoroughly and respectfully.

 

[Tepes Thot]

Something else about Benny I found fascinating, and haven’t really seen anyone mention, is that at the end of the conversation (like near them getting up to leave I presume) he tells Rabbani he only holds the Israeli government’s presentations to be true.

Rabbani proposed an independent investigation for the second time, and Benny says no it would all be lies. Rabanni challenges this, and says he’d trust it if it was an Israeli investigation, and Benny says yes, at least then it’d be truthful. This matters to me, because I realized that I couldn’t trust a single thing he’d said that entire debate. That’s sad, because he was one of the better debaters, but he revealed he can’t be trusted.

I also noticed that for some reason, Rabanni was able to trigger him while being as polite as possible, but Norm ripped his work to his face and he was amused. Benny was mostly calm, but Rabbani got under his skin multiple times by saying the most mild things.
I don’t know, I found that interesting too.

 

[Seymour Butts]

https://twitter.com/HasPause/status/1768472024207483325

This old clip of Destiny getting cucked on a stream is making the rounds on twitter. 17K likes and 1.4K retweets. Oof.
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His face is hilarious in that clip
Why does this retard pretend that the open relationship shit doesn't bother him

 

[Code Cave]

He could have said something like "the Israelis conducted studies to determine how to minimize caloric intake of Gazans just short of starvation" or how one official said he wanted to "put Palestinians on a diet" but Destiny would surely have nitpicked or made excuses considering he had just claimed that literally nuking Gaza wouldn't qualify as genocidal.

This came up with in his conversation with Omar Baddar, where Destiny performed really badly:

https://youtu.be/MmjwUAZkRS8?t=1625

It comes up a little bit later again (you can search the transcript) but this instance is the most tiny engages with it. He doesn't address the actual topic, instead he moves on to:

• Hamas uses sugar to launch rockets
• People in Gaza aren't being starved because they're having children
• Conditions in Gaza aren't that bad because they're having children
• Justifying the wider blockade instead of dealing with the specific issue being brought up

During this entire segment he doing the performative sighs, the constant "uh huh" when the other person is talking, typing on his keyboard, etc. as if this is all beneath him.

He mocks the idea of food insecurity again later:

https://youtu.be/MmjwUAZkRS8?t=2822

and his brilliant counterargument, stretched to several minutes, is "no way bro, the IDF wouldn't do that, they investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong".

During his review of the debate, he was genuinely giddy that this topic came up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJRCUfyyoLs&t=13800s

He thinks this is another "own", despite him A - being wrong and misrepresenting what happened and B - his own talking points making his argument worse. If the IDF has such a good system of stringent checks and balances in place, how did such a "tragic mistake" (the IDFs words) occur? It would be more justifiable if the multi-layered approval process wasn't there. Although, people who have been aware of this conflict for more than 4 months know how common these incidents are and what the outcome always is.

"Ah-ha! You don't want to answer my question in the specific way I ordered you to! That means you're dodging the question and I'm winning!"

GIVE ME A PERCENTAGE BRO! YOU CAN'T DO IT, CAN YOU? HEH, ANOTHER WIN FOR ME.

Another thing, he admitted he only read the ICJ report the night before the debate. He's incredibly proud of himself for not paying another e-whore to come and bang him, but instead he stayed up cramming the night before for his debate:

https://youtu.be/gJRCUfyyoLs?t=16038

 

[RedDelicious]

"Debating" tiny is a waste of time and I don't blame anyone who simply takes the opportunity to call him a moron to his face. He goes into debates with the intention to 'win' which means, in his mind, he cannot- no matter how uneducated, unprepared, and incorrect actually he is- give even an inch. Not only because an inch is a lot for him, but because he can go back and watch himself later and justify acting like a baboon and looking at Wikipedia, but not him ever actually admitting fault.
This is the same retard who 'had to' adamantly defend raping animals as a-ok because he was terrified a twitter vegan could catch him in a gotcha for defending eating animals but not literally everything else.

 

[Code Cave]

"might be starving right now, maybe"

 

[Druveer]

Turkey Tom puts out a video with a bunch of the gun youtubers that are in and around San Antonio, Texas. They also bring in a few folks who aren't gun youtubers, one of them being destiny. I saw one comment that he looks like someones younger brother who tagged along because their mother wanted him out of the house.

 

[Nadine9]

Another thing, he admitted he only read the ICJ report the night before the debate. He's incredibly proud of himself for not paying another e-whore to come and bang him, but instead he stayed up cramming the night before for his debate:

He continues to put his foot in his mouth, this just speaks to how unserious he is, not only did he cram read the ICJ the very night before to have some modicum of responsibility and commitment to the seriousness of the debate he was doing , but now expects praise for not getting off track and fucking some New York whore, truly heroic.

"Debating" tiny is a waste of time and I don't blame anyone who simply takes the opportunity to call him a moron to his face. He goes into debates with the intention to 'win' which means, in his mind, he cannot- no matter how uneducated, unprepared, and incorrect actually he is- give even an inch. Not only because an inch is a lot for him, but because he can go back and watch himself later and justify acting like a baboon and looking at Wikipedia, but not him ever actually admitting fault.
This is the same retard who 'had to' adamantly defend raping animals as a-ok because he was terrified a twitter vegan could catch him in a gotcha for defending eating animals but not literally everything else.

Yeah isn’t it strange how a 35yr old man who has a large social media presence and who has never lost a debate in his entire career isn’t more well-known or regarded my mainstream media? Oh that’s because that’s the delusional reality he lives in, the one where a young man with little experience in much of anything except for StarCraft, cleaning carpets and diddling immature, dumb women can beat any and all experts in his path. He’s such a loser. Finklestein was so on point were he told Tiny to have humility. If fact you gain more knowledge with humility than with arrogance and I would never want to interact with anyone who thinks they know everything. True wisdom comes from knowing you don’t know everything and always being open to learning .

 

[TheBigRevelator]

Other than on twitter in leftist and groyper circles he did pretty good. those people would always shit on Destiny no matter what.

You have to have some type of cognitive dissonance to think Norm came out as the winner in moments like this just because he's throwing 3rd grader insults at Destiny:

https://twitter.com/Ninjamastor/status/1768529635300556846

Just one example showing Norm is dead wrong but he called him a moron so he must be winning. Actual brain worms

"Brain worms"

You're definitely a faggot leftist. All you cucks use the same vernacular. Back to Reddit you go!

His face is hilarious in that clip
Why does this retard pretend that the open relationship shit doesn't bother him

Because his whole shtick is "I'm unbothered & super cool. Nothing gets to me" which is such a fucking cope. He still thinks that being the above it all cool guy that never takes things seriously is some virtue because he never grew out of that mentality in his 20s.

He's the textbook definition of a manchild.