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Another thing to put on record: OP mentioned Gaylor and I remember when I first heard it, and I found some discussions about it, and there's a subreddit about this becuase of course there is. There's gonna be links and spoiler tags. I've made sure to leave links to archives to as much as I can in the event that just copy/pasting text wouldn't really work out IMO.
And if you're wondering why I went so deep into this, the idea of a singer in this day and age using their music to go "I identify as LGBT but have to stay in the closet because reasons" seems something interesting to look into. Not like the fans though.
Emily Poe (now Stumler) was primarily Taylor’s fiddle player during the Taylor Swift and Pre-Fearless era. Her linkedIn profile states that she was working with Taylor from July 2006 until January 2008. She lists that her duties included: “[having] Aided in image management, artist relations, and marketing strategy for artist. Performed for all live shows as the fiddle player and background vocalist. Assisted in merchandise sales at venues.”
Prior to the release of Taylor’s debut album, Emily was already hired as part of the band. Majority of their time together was spent on the road as Taylor became the opening acts of multiple country artists. Thus, this timeline will be heavy with journal mentions, pictures, and videos from their stops on tour, life on the bus, etc. which are labeled accordingly.
——2006——
**I find Taylor’s MySpace Bios from around that time very interesting.
July 24 - First live performance with Emily
Rhapsody TV performances - (x) (x) [unknown specific date]
Performing at a football game with Scott Borchetta & Emily - (x) (x) [unknown specific date]
September 1 - Grand Ole Opry debut performance (x 1:34 mark)
October 19-28 & November 1-3 - On Tour with Rascal Flatts as an opening act replacing Eric Church (x) (x) (x)
——2007——
January 11 to March 3 - On Tour with George Strait as an opening act (x)
January 12 - [Journal Entry] their first show with George Strait and being domestic with Emily on the bus (x)
January 17 - [Journal Entry] talks about Emily and the ‘Teardrops on My Guitar’ MV shoot (x)
February 12 - [Journal Entry] mentions Emily and their Grey’s Anatomy watching rituals on the bus (x)
May 30 - Taylor sang the Original Version of ‘Sparks Fly’ (which she wrote in 2006 before releasing ‘Tim McGraw’) at a show in Gold Country Casino in CA. The next few times she performed it that year were in bar shows with around only 40-50 people.
April - September - select dates of Brad Paisley’s Bonfires & Amplifiers Tour
October - duo Halloween costume as ‘The Wreckers’ with Taylor as Michelle Branch & Emily as Jessica Harp (x) (x) (x)
November - Taylor’s First CMAs performance (her last with Emily as part of the whole band). (x)
December
——2008——-
January - Grand Ole Opry Performance / Last Documented-Live Performance with Emily (x)
July - ‘Beautiful Eyes’ EP release / Taylor posted the video for ‘I’m Only Me When I’m With You’ which includes snippets of Emily since a lot of the footage was taken from her tour diaries.
November - ‘Fearless’ release date -> “Breathe” ft. Colbie Caillat
in addition to the fact that it was written around the time she lasts mentions Emily by name on her blog (or at all), Taylor’s explanation about writing ‘Breathe’ points it very much towards Emily. (part 1) (part 2)
Did I mention the song’s secret message on the album was ‘i’m sorry i’m sorry i’m sorry’ as well? (x)
——————-
2011 - 3 years later…
VH1 posts a pop-up video for ‘Our Song’ and basically challenges the reason on Emily’s departure. It explains that she was allegedly fired without being given a reason and that “Taylor never talked to her again”. Thus further fueling the idea that “Breathe” was really about Emily and that it was more than just a ‘friendship falling out’.
In January/February 2012, Emily & her husband’s wedding/love story was featured in an article. She cites a bit of her time with Taylor and says that it led her to pursue law school thus leaving music (and Taylor) for good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“…I started with watching her on the road,” she explained. “She had just started and I lived with her on the bus with her mom, and I was watching you know, deals come through. She got this deal with Verizon and instead of - you know, I loved music - but I would sit there and read the contracts. I thought, I think I really want to do this. So when I came off the road I pretty much went straight to law school. I loved contracts. “The last week I was working for her ‘Our Song’ was Number 1,” she continued. “So I watched a growth of the artist. There’s tons of business involved, that’s what people don’t realize. It’s more than just the music.”
Yes, it's a lot. I know. This is a rabbit hole of GIFs, pictures, and formatting that leaves at least a decent amount to be desired.
And if you're wondering why I went so deep into this, the idea of a singer in this day and age using their music to go "I identify as LGBT but have to stay in the closet because reasons" seems something interesting to look into. Not like the fans though.
Welcome to r/GaylorSwift!
Welcome to r/GaylorSwift!
We are the original Gaylor subreddit 
Since 2018 we have been a vibrantly thriving community of individuals who like to examine Taylor Swift's music through a queer and sapphic lens. We have worked hard to create a safe space for thoughtful discussion and examination of Taylor Swift and the possible queer readings, themes, and motifs present n her work and public persona.
Whether you're here as a newcomer, as a member who's been here since 2018, or even as someone who has been a gaylor since the good ol' days of Tumblr and Kissgate -- welcome! This is your home to talk about Taylor's work, to support her, and to be among other fans who also resonate with and find meaning in queer readings of Taylor's work.
Bearding is useful to protect individuals from both physical danger and career devastation that can accompany being out as LGBTQ+ in a largely homophobic society. It can also be strategically beneficial to both the private lives and careers of participants. Frankly, career opportunities are not distributed to the LGBTQ+ community as widely as they are to heterosexual counterparts.
Famous examples of bearding include Betty White’s relationship with Liberace, Rock Hudson’s marriage to Phyllis Gates, and Judy Garland’s relationship with Vincente Minnelli (Dorothea, do you ever stop and think about me?).
GrammyGate and William Bowery are two different topics, as William Bowery did not win a Grammy. Joe Alwyn won a Grammy. William Bowery did not win a grammy because they did not participate on enough of the album to win one. Was this by design, by a mastermind? Who knows...
Ship Name: Taymily
Masterpost/Timeline: Taymily Masterpost
Name: Liz Huett
Ship Name: TayLiz
Masterpost/Timeline: TayLiz: A Semi-Complete Timeline
Name: Dianna Agron
Ship Name: Swiftgron
Masterpost/Timeline: Swiftgron Masterpost
Name: Karlie Kloss
Ship Name: Kaylor
Masterpost/Timeline: Kaylor 2013-2014
Kaylor 2015-2016
Kaylor 2018-2019
Reputation is About Karlie Kloss Powerpoint
Name: Lily Donaldson
Ship Name: Tily
Masterpost/Timeline: link coming soon
Name: Zoë Kravitz
Ship Name: Toë/ZoëTay
Masterpost/Timeline: Taylor/Zoë Powerpoint
Others: Kellie Pickler, Julianne Hough, Brie Larson
Compiled Timelines: Here is a fairly comprehensive timeline of several women Taylor's rumored to have dated, including several women listed above.
Since 2018 we have been a vibrantly thriving community of individuals who like to examine Taylor Swift's music through a queer and sapphic lens. We have worked hard to create a safe space for thoughtful discussion and examination of Taylor Swift and the possible queer readings, themes, and motifs present n her work and public persona.Whether you're here as a newcomer, as a member who's been here since 2018, or even as someone who has been a gaylor since the good ol' days of Tumblr and Kissgate -- welcome! This is your home to talk about Taylor's work, to support her, and to be among other fans who also resonate with and find meaning in queer readings of Taylor's work.
Important Terms & Figures
- Hetlor: A Swiftie who vehemently believes Taylor Swift is straight.
- Sappho: A legendary poet from ancient Greece, she is the origin of the terms "sapphic" and "lesbian." If you're familiar with Sappho, you can clearly see Swift's direct references to Sappho's poetry throughout her discography and in her music videos.
- Tree Paine:
is Taylor's publicist. Tree has been working with Taylor since 2014. Gaylors commonly make jokes about Tree taking down the sub, keeping Taylor's image spotless, etc. Gaylors - in general - have respect and admiration for Tree's immense skill. Tree is a phenomenal publicist! (Hi Tree!) - Toe (not to be confused with Toë): A combination of Taylor and Joe’s names. A common shorthand for this is also the emoji
(foot emoji).
Important Links If You're New to Gaylor Theory/Analysis
- Gaylor Swift: An Introduction — An extremely comprehensive guide called created by an anonymous poster on AO3.
- Take Her To Big Sur/the 1 — An excellent visual presentation by u/rightintothatdivebar. This PowerPoint compiles several timelines and pieces of evidence. It's engaging for visual learners!
- Kaylor Evidence — an excellent site that contains timelines and masterposts for many of Taylor's suspected relationships and beards, including Karlie and Dianna.
What is bearding?
"Bearding" is a practice in which a public relationship, however legitimate, is used to conceal the sexual identity of one or more partners. This practice gained widespread popularity in America in the 1920s, although a more common name at the time was, “lavender marriage/lavender dating.” This became popular within Hollywood as many stars in the early 20th century and beyond were bound to, “morality contracts,” which forced LGBTQ+ performers to conceal their sexuality.Bearding is useful to protect individuals from both physical danger and career devastation that can accompany being out as LGBTQ+ in a largely homophobic society. It can also be strategically beneficial to both the private lives and careers of participants. Frankly, career opportunities are not distributed to the LGBTQ+ community as widely as they are to heterosexual counterparts.
Famous examples of bearding include Betty White’s relationship with Liberace, Rock Hudson’s marriage to Phyllis Gates, and Judy Garland’s relationship with Vincente Minnelli (Dorothea, do you ever stop and think about me?).
Was Toe real?
We don't know. Some people believe they had a real relationship, some people believe he was a beard for her, some people believe they were beards for each other. Believing any of these is valid, and it does not make anyone biphobic or lesbophobic to believe one over the other. It's even possible for Taylor to be bi and for Joe to have been a beard. The fact is we will most likely never know the truth.William Bowery + GrammyGate
Who is "WB"?
The short answer is: nobody really knows. However, a few people are rumored to be the infamous "William Bowery," who co-wrote several songs on folklore, evermore, and Midnights. The public narrative is that William Bowery is Joe Alwyn, though fan theories include Paul McCartney, Austin Swift, Dianna Agron, Zoë Kravitz, Taylor herself, and several other individuals who would want to keep their identities concealed. It is also possible that William Bowery is not one person and is a pseudonym for a rotating collection of artists.What is GrammyGate?
GrammyGate refers to the incident in which the credits for folklore were modified after it won 2021 Album of the Year to add Joe Alwyn as a producer on multiple songs. Opinions on this are mixed -- some believe that the credits were unearned and that it was done to fulfill a bearding contract, others believe that Joe did actually contribute to the album as a writer and producer. Regardless, a significant amount of Gaylors, Swifties, and the general public alike all found it was a bit odd that the credits were modified after the 2021 Grammy Awards. Many posts have been made about this - please filter by the "Grammygate" flair or search "Grammygate" to find them.GrammyGate and William Bowery are two different topics, as William Bowery did not win a Grammy. Joe Alwyn won a Grammy. William Bowery did not win a grammy because they did not participate on enough of the album to win one. Was this by design, by a mastermind? Who knows...
What was Bettygate?
Bettygate was an incident that occurred in August 2020, shortly after folklore was released, where several sapphic Gaylors (some of whom were minors) were outed for expressing the belief that the song "betty" might have queer themes. When Taylor stated in an interview that "betty" was from the perspective of a 17-year-old boy named James, some Swifties took this as their cue to dox and harass Gaylors on Twitter. The incident has become a point of collective trauma for the community, causing many Gaylors to harbor anxiety around speaking too openly about queer themes in Taylor's music, or sharing too much identifying information online. Taylor never commented on the incident.Who are the women Taylor is rumoured to have dated?
Name: Emily PoeShip Name: Taymily
Masterpost/Timeline: Taymily Masterpost
Name: Liz Huett
Ship Name: TayLiz
Masterpost/Timeline: TayLiz: A Semi-Complete Timeline
Name: Dianna Agron
Ship Name: Swiftgron
Masterpost/Timeline: Swiftgron Masterpost
Name: Karlie Kloss
Ship Name: Kaylor
Masterpost/Timeline: Kaylor 2013-2014
Kaylor 2015-2016
Kaylor 2018-2019
Reputation is About Karlie Kloss Powerpoint
Name: Lily Donaldson
Ship Name: Tily
Masterpost/Timeline: link coming soon
Name: Zoë Kravitz
Ship Name: Toë/ZoëTay
Masterpost/Timeline: Taylor/Zoë Powerpoint
Others: Kellie Pickler, Julianne Hough, Brie Larson
Compiled Timelines: Here is a fairly comprehensive timeline of several women Taylor's rumored to have dated, including several women listed above.
Apr 26
Apr 26
Taymily Masterpost
This is my attempt at trying to chronicle the brief yet significant relationship of Taylor Swift and Emily Poe. I’ve tried to get this as accurate as possible, based on what I could research off the internet. If I find more information or corrections, I’ll update this accordingly.Emily Poe (now Stumler) was primarily Taylor’s fiddle player during the Taylor Swift and Pre-Fearless era. Her linkedIn profile states that she was working with Taylor from July 2006 until January 2008. She lists that her duties included: “[having] Aided in image management, artist relations, and marketing strategy for artist. Performed for all live shows as the fiddle player and background vocalist. Assisted in merchandise sales at venues.”
Prior to the release of Taylor’s debut album, Emily was already hired as part of the band. Majority of their time together was spent on the road as Taylor became the opening acts of multiple country artists. Thus, this timeline will be heavy with journal mentions, pictures, and videos from their stops on tour, life on the bus, etc. which are labeled accordingly.
——2006——
**I find Taylor’s MySpace Bios from around that time very interesting.
- 2006-early 2008 = “I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend. I don’t go out looking for guys. But then again, I don’t write alot of love songs. Basically.. I’m single.” (x)
- 2008 = “I’ve never been the kind of girl who needs a boyfriend. I believe that love will find you when you’re not looking for it.. So I’ve been actively NOT looking for it for about 3 years now. I’ll let you know how that works out for me. It probably doesn’t help that I write songs about every guy I talk to.” (x)
July 24 - First live performance with Emily
- Live @ The Whiskey a Go Go (video) where Taylor dropped this bit when introducing the band: “This is Emily over here on fiddle. Now Emily has a boyfriend, but she has agreed that what happens in LA stays there.” [3:56 mark]
Rhapsody TV performances - (x) (x) [unknown specific date]
Performing at a football game with Scott Borchetta & Emily - (x) (x) [unknown specific date]
September 1 - Grand Ole Opry debut performance (x 1:34 mark)
October 19-28 & November 1-3 - On Tour with Rascal Flatts as an opening act replacing Eric Church (x) (x) (x)
——2007——
January 11 to March 3 - On Tour with George Strait as an opening act (x)
January 12 - [Journal Entry] their first show with George Strait and being domestic with Emily on the bus (x)
January 17 - [Journal Entry] talks about Emily and the ‘Teardrops on My Guitar’ MV shoot (x)
February 12 - [Journal Entry] mentions Emily and their Grey’s Anatomy watching rituals on the bus (x)
May 30 - Taylor sang the Original Version of ‘Sparks Fly’ (which she wrote in 2006 before releasing ‘Tim McGraw’) at a show in Gold Country Casino in CA. The next few times she performed it that year were in bar shows with around only 40-50 people.
April - September - select dates of Brad Paisley’s Bonfires & Amplifiers Tour
- Pranking Rodney Atkins (video) (x) - November ½ as of her MySpace Journal Entry (the last of which she mentions Emily by name or at all)
- fooling around backstage with standees of Brad (x)
October - duo Halloween costume as ‘The Wreckers’ with Taylor as Michelle Branch & Emily as Jessica Harp (x) (x) (x)
November - Taylor’s First CMAs performance (her last with Emily as part of the whole band). (x)
December
- CMT’s Studio 330 Sessions (pictures) / (videos)
- Taylor’s MySpace journal entry dated Dec. 05, 2007 - where she mentions meeting Colbie Caillat and says they “got together and wrote a killer song”
- Emily attends Taylor’s 18th Birthday party at Lot 7 in Nashville (pictures) (x) / (MV for the song ‘Beautiful Eyes’ released in 2008 using footage from the party)
- With Scott Brochetta & label officials at Big Machine Records - (x)
- Emily in a cheerleader outfit - (x) (x)
- With fans/other musicians/friends - (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x)
- With Mama Swift - (x) (x)
- Just the two of them - (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x)
- the “Gay Texan” picture - (x)
- Taylor & Emily in a restaurant playing with utensils - (x) Emily says at the end, “People are getting really mad” while Taylor laughs
- 2007 Summer Vacation to the Grand Canyon - (x) (x) (x) (x) (x) (x)
- Setting fire to a Dora the Explorer cake - (x) (x)
- A compilation of her tour diaries - (x) Emily appears multiple times
- *Taylor’s MySpace Video for Emily - which featured Taylor and many different people holding up a handwritten sign that read “I love you, Emily
[hand drawn heart]”, a letter to her from Taylor, apart from a montage of their moments together set to ‘Stolen’ by Dashboard Confessional as the background song (’you have stolen my heart’ is a repeated lyric).
——2008——-
January - Grand Ole Opry Performance / Last Documented-Live Performance with Emily (x)
July - ‘Beautiful Eyes’ EP release / Taylor posted the video for ‘I’m Only Me When I’m With You’ which includes snippets of Emily since a lot of the footage was taken from her tour diaries.
November - ‘Fearless’ release date -> “Breathe” ft. Colbie Caillat
in addition to the fact that it was written around the time she lasts mentions Emily by name on her blog (or at all), Taylor’s explanation about writing ‘Breathe’ points it very much towards Emily. (part 1) (part 2)
The lyrics tell the story so well, honestly. (x) especially the repeated and haunting ‘i’m sorry’
Did I mention the song’s secret message on the album was ‘i’m sorry i’m sorry i’m sorry’ as well? (x)
——————-
2011 - 3 years later…
VH1 posts a pop-up video for ‘Our Song’ and basically challenges the reason on Emily’s departure. It explains that she was allegedly fired without being given a reason and that “Taylor never talked to her again”. Thus further fueling the idea that “Breathe” was really about Emily and that it was more than just a ‘friendship falling out’.
In January/February 2012, Emily & her husband’s wedding/love story was featured in an article. She cites a bit of her time with Taylor and says that it led her to pursue law school thus leaving music (and Taylor) for good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“…I started with watching her on the road,” she explained. “She had just started and I lived with her on the bus with her mom, and I was watching you know, deals come through. She got this deal with Verizon and instead of - you know, I loved music - but I would sit there and read the contracts. I thought, I think I really want to do this. So when I came off the road I pretty much went straight to law school. I loved contracts. “The last week I was working for her ‘Our Song’ was Number 1,” she continued. “So I watched a growth of the artist. There’s tons of business involved, that’s what people don’t realize. It’s more than just the music.”
1st layer
1st layer
https://preview.redd.it/npjhgozsh3n...bp&s=82f05945780e30baaaf4930e1db5882b1d30f4b1
promoting queer artists - she has publicly shown support to Girl in red, Arlo Parks, Conan Gray
"boys and boys and girls and girls" - lyrics of Welcome to New York. Gay panic as she tries to explain the lyrics (13:30)
Girl in red - she posted that she listens to girl in red on April 30th (Dianna's birthday) this year. "I listen to girl in red" is a way to signal someone you are queer/into girls
male pov - she straight washed betty and said that it was from a teenage boy's perspective, even though she named Betty, James and Inez by Blake Lively's daughters and she is also named after James Taylor.
rainbow clothes - she do be wearing rainbows a lot
https://preview.redd.it/9pzknkhoj3n...bp&s=93161e985fbb2285960a334bff5bca15c8504c4d
kissgate - taylor and karlie were caught kissing on December 4th, 2014 on The 1975 concert, DWOHT is believed to be about this.
https://preview.redd.it/xagingm6i3n...bp&s=0a1136390c7c2af57f1a6dfcb737cce475c77047
https://preview.redd.it/g18tqbv8l3n...bp&s=bc62965c09034deeb728f391e08822123cca2d54
"raytay. that's an amazing couple name" taylor was interviewed by someone named Rachel and she said this. She was flirting with the interviewer. very fruity
"shiny abssss" - she says this while describing karlie in the "best friends" video. also "my baby's fit like a daydream" in CIWYW
grammygate - she added joe as a producer on enough songs so he can get a grammy. This is a post that goes into details by u/Far_Appointment6743.
wonderland - dianna agron's fav piece of media is alice in wonderland. she released wonderland as part of the deluxe version of 1989. some of the lyrics: "too in love to think straight" "we fell down the rabbit hole", which was dianna's tumblr username.
female pronouns - she has changed the pronouns to she/her in a few live performances. the loudest one is this one (2:40)
killing eve stan - very gay show (my awakening). she said it's one of her fav shows on ellen. also this - she created a band to cover LWYMMD for the show
tolerate it interview - the song: "my love should be celebrated it, but you tolerate it". in an interview few years ago she said that people tolerate the lgbt community, but she celebrates them (4:40). article
"it's like an actual fantasy" - she said this about models being in her trailer
https://preview.redd.it/03mnvz8al3n...bp&s=b8144b2b1b1e52cbb084b3e08d6f9c419e606054
kushner baby announcement - Josh posted about their baby on the night of the grammys when taylor was getting an award (March 15th), but later we found out the baby was born a few days before that (March 11th)
https://preview.redd.it/0ahkog3wg3n...bp&s=74ea4575d25e98ac28eaddf2f20a48114729117e
"my publicist would get mad at me" - she was with karlie at the ODLR show and refused to answer why she was at that event. Quote:
proud bracelet - she posted wearing a bracelet made by a fan with the bi flag colors that says "proud"
https://preview.redd.it/0g6jy8gch3n...bp&s=6a023f3e44dbd6a27a2bf3c7b6cbba4ae4017c2b
olivia rodrigo - she has liked a tiktok about swiftgron, also watches glee (from her song deja vu) and follows Dianna, has posted about taylor's rainbow guitar strings on the betty live performance
https://preview.redd.it/b6vzg0z2l3n...bp&s=8b0a6f94d82dacf41080b8dfd547bbd2af3b86c5
"hi taylor" - dianna said this when asked if she had something to do with taylor; (similar to how Taylor S does it in the SNL monologue song about Taylor L) Also "wouldn't that be juicy"
false god live SNL - very gay; Dianna Agron was in the audience
delicate live at lgbt event - self explanatory, she sang it with hayley; article
snl - old snl video where she is a "roomate" with another girl, but it's kinda obvious they are more than friends
gay texas train - photo of Taylor with Emily Poe where they giggle at the word "gay"
https://preview.redd.it/mdhgbkdi94n...bp&s=1f999ad7fb3426edb8769d3d44ca11cf11045d6c
taylr - karlie misspelled her name on the beach "My name is whatever you decide" - Don't blame me
https://preview.redd.it/zhd2ia7er3n...bp&s=1e8d2f4a77cb970d4578d1d9b9f236912f53d084
https://preview.redd.it/jn0vandbl3n...bp&s=6dab8693d4fae03fdd6a7b8cd270b3583eb6607a
lizzo fanfic - lizzo wrote a NSFW fanfic about her and taylor and read it
"my girlfriend's apartment" - she literally said this, the gf in question is probably dianna because this was during red
me! out now - she posted this when ME! was out and it was on lesbian visibility day
https://preview.redd.it/i1oog68qr3n...bp&s=f411b2b249d8c840dcc72c81eee423f1e164ecd3
wear you like a necklace - gay term for cunnilingus, part of the "so it goes" lyrics
wonderland photoshoot - very gay looking, also connected to dianna
hunger games date - she was seen by fans with dianna and a group of friends seeing the hunger games movie. also
https://preview.redd.it/umw5nx36s3n...bp&s=8d6b20154e231426e06ae8252f02e48eb6fcdc9f
"bitches and models" - while making the song "the man" she says that "bitches and models" HAS to be in the lyrics. This becomes much more interesting when you see the storyline on spotify. Quote:
#burma - quote from u/Far_Appointment6743 "I think Kk posted something on Instagram to make it look like she was in Burma, but was then was photographed in nyc with Taylor"
https://preview.redd.it/kx8exhycl3n...bp&s=b7372cc4b565fa4764d3bd728f1cb8329c0f196f
3rd polaroid - only 2 polaroids with karlie were posted. everyone wants to see the third.
https://preview.redd.it/ejuneylgs3n...bp&s=b7fbb63093b3467dabeedc8c136c1c57fe8aef4c
halsey - she has a few songs with taylor's song's titles in them. Halsey also congratulated Taylor on folklore saying "And congratulations, to you, on a beautiful confessional album." as seven plays.
https://preview.redd.it/732ld9lfn4n...bp&s=45621691d5a925cffd2dd1963d6b7720ba3fd7d1
"everything that makes ME! me" - gay pride is what makes the music videos ME! be like taylor. this was in the documentary
"i'm new york city you're the west village" - false god lyrics; karlie had an apartment in the west village which she later sold
that's when - she changed the pronouns from "he" to "you" in Taylor's Version, making it gender neutral. post
143 - 143 stands for "I love you" as in first word is 1 letter, second 4, third 3. Here's more details. Dianna tweeted "143 remember those days?" with a broken heart emoji when the photoshoot with Karlie was posted in 2015.
https://preview.redd.it/kt6zmv7nc3n...bp&s=6739c4741fa2f013b18f03e62efdc90511eda6fa
cat on a leash - taylor wrote a joke on dianna's door at her bd party (she was dressed as a cat) and that kinda connects to "I left a note with a joke we made" in holy ground
I’m a little kitten and I need to nurse because I’m a runt and I’m likely to fall victim to predators
the butterfly mural - it looks like karlie's wings and was painted by an artist who made a lot of art from the vogue magazine shoot.
Quote from u/thatotherhemingway :
https://preview.redd.it/d9szmymst3n...bp&s=0a6f36d51e6cba6a2b7cd8599195b25d058ecf24
Nils Sjöberg - she wrote "this is what you came for" for calvin by this pseudonym. this is a gaylor analysis about possible easter egg.
her boobs look AMAZING - she wrote this on myspace about a girl, also connects with "2006 myspace presence" of the next layer
https://preview.redd.it/1wfo2y9sn3n...bp&s=15c32327a9891f899799ff9c4fcea994e9ef2cb6
https://preview.redd.it/joonfcqxv3n...bp&s=ae8facfc969e6f46b36b67668377a76a0def0da3
dianna's tumblr handle - we fell down the rabbit hole
zoe kravitz - there's a whole presentation about this. they were ALLEGEDLY quarantining together. Zoe also works with Jack. More details in the presentation - very sus. Zoe has a song called "not diana" Some lyrics:
Taylor was also giving a speech about Ruby Rose on the 2016 GLAAD awards and said "She tells the world that no one can judge US and no one can stop US". video (she says that around the 30 second mark)
"I don't care that you have a dic-" Taylor says in an interview:
https://preview.redd.it/54ne51pyv3n...bp&s=77272dcea5243b7a4e1f8fad917087cf29f9b827
Also:
https://preview.redd.it/oasbopazv3n...bp&s=20b5ac02456e6aac6184fef7370a84318cde3074
https://preview.redd.it/i7ex0utzv3n...bp&s=42c0de82a3d774c90d9c8a65b95f9565e61098ee
karlie birthday skype outfit & KOMH - the outfit taylor wore during making KOMH was the same as the one she was wearing when skyping with Karlie for her birthday.
https://preview.redd.it/6layi5g0w3n...bp&s=c5fb72cf83bde1a7402adb2c12fb448c2bb59e54
jack antonoff likes working with gay women - jack said this while talking about taylor
daisy - "once I was poison ivy, but now I am YOUR daisy" karlie tagged taylor as the daisy from the big sur trip and she was the one wearing the daisy on her ear
https://preview.redd.it/cpg0wx11w3n...bp&s=6c358273c25b9dc5317b732cc7361ea101f38fc8
https://preview.redd.it/64s9dym1w3n...bp&s=c365fd36bcf14289a237385913a24b37fe593a35
I would also like to add the ivy lyrics: "My house of stone, your ivy grows/ And now I'm covered in you"
this love is different - this was the original lyrics to Love Story, not difficult
https://preview.redd.it/ptvdjd42w3n...bp&s=2d4d150fed4e82ef2f78214abac16bdc0d355d4d
so I have an inside source at glee - taylor tweeted this
https://preview.redd.it/uq0srjr9x3n...bp&s=5efad4d211a142c1adb559fa18417330ed98b569
karlie and cara - they kissed (cara delevingne; part of taylor's squad)
https://preview.redd.it/nfl27p3ws4n...bp&s=54dc2949ae46a8e58fc9c5b330fc41fcf1d7d431
Also, I would like to add:
https://preview.redd.it/vr6e3qi6w3n...bp&s=198e889236c64942ba595614ac4883cb9392ce53
curious with hayley - she sang hayley's song after karlie announced she was engaged; part of the lyrics
https://preview.redd.it/uep5ar37w3n...bp&s=64f4910c5c8bccad44909aaf519b2d779fed9835
Also note: Olivia Wilde is the director of Booksmart and she is friends with Dianna.
"i grew a big ol beard" - calvin harris' deleted tweets
https://preview.redd.it/k1qe3mq7w3n...bp&s=229340b2c976794b124f238888f48190c1a53ea5
"on the way home" - from YAIL "you can feel it on the way home", "on the way home" is the caption on instagram on the photo
https://preview.redd.it/vo8jo2b8w3n...bp&s=e7e1aefd2e2e2feb340564c856879410375b4b76
"who does the dishes? She does" - Karlie is asked if they bake cookes with Taylor and she says that she's the one who cooks and Taylor does the dishes. (1:57)
kaylor fanfic/lyrics references - there is a kaylor fanfiction Kaylor: The Timeline that has a bunch of lyrical references to taylor’s songs from rep-evermore but was written before those albums came out. post from a gaylor on this sub
https://preview.redd.it/or4upvnaw3n...bp&s=6d0184698d9f4ee10394108c75f2130d69d10b2e
babe music video - it's crazy. the same as sam smith's "i know I'm not the only one" in which dianna's playing the wife. just look at the photos and the TIMESTAMPS. Here you can find more details.
https://preview.redd.it/2djvo489w3n...bp&s=e1995db70f36bcfb33e0451e06aade3c5cc38610
https://preview.redd.it/kwhuicjbw3n...bp&s=e56dcd78ac603d66db855e3e6185178ada558ba5
https://preview.redd.it/4n26q82cw3n...bp&s=017ac531c1bc60001a7a076f07750d4745b2b48b
https://preview.redd.it/cu9inrqcw3n...bp&s=b921d1f4b32f384bebe9fa7b6da7dcbd88f8add6
https://preview.redd.it/psjk5yodw3n...bp&s=a26012a176f63e41ae93eea48b04bd2e67f59042
promoting queer artists - she has publicly shown support to Girl in red, Arlo Parks, Conan Gray
"boys and boys and girls and girls" - lyrics of Welcome to New York. Gay panic as she tries to explain the lyrics (13:30)
Girl in red - she posted that she listens to girl in red on April 30th (Dianna's birthday) this year. "I listen to girl in red" is a way to signal someone you are queer/into girls
male pov - she straight washed betty and said that it was from a teenage boy's perspective, even though she named Betty, James and Inez by Blake Lively's daughters and she is also named after James Taylor.
rainbow clothes - she do be wearing rainbows a lot
https://preview.redd.it/9pzknkhoj3n...bp&s=93161e985fbb2285960a334bff5bca15c8504c4d
kissgate - taylor and karlie were caught kissing on December 4th, 2014 on The 1975 concert, DWOHT is believed to be about this.
https://preview.redd.it/xagingm6i3n...bp&s=0a1136390c7c2af57f1a6dfcb737cce475c77047
2nd layer
https://preview.redd.it/g18tqbv8l3n...bp&s=bc62965c09034deeb728f391e08822123cca2d54
"raytay. that's an amazing couple name" taylor was interviewed by someone named Rachel and she said this. She was flirting with the interviewer. very fruity
"shiny abssss" - she says this while describing karlie in the "best friends" video. also "my baby's fit like a daydream" in CIWYW
grammygate - she added joe as a producer on enough songs so he can get a grammy. This is a post that goes into details by u/Far_Appointment6743.
wonderland - dianna agron's fav piece of media is alice in wonderland. she released wonderland as part of the deluxe version of 1989. some of the lyrics: "too in love to think straight" "we fell down the rabbit hole", which was dianna's tumblr username.
female pronouns - she has changed the pronouns to she/her in a few live performances. the loudest one is this one (2:40)
killing eve stan - very gay show (my awakening). she said it's one of her fav shows on ellen. also this - she created a band to cover LWYMMD for the show
tolerate it interview - the song: "my love should be celebrated it, but you tolerate it". in an interview few years ago she said that people tolerate the lgbt community, but she celebrates them (4:40). article
"it's like an actual fantasy" - she said this about models being in her trailer
3rd layer
https://preview.redd.it/03mnvz8al3n...bp&s=b8144b2b1b1e52cbb084b3e08d6f9c419e606054
kushner baby announcement - Josh posted about their baby on the night of the grammys when taylor was getting an award (March 15th), but later we found out the baby was born a few days before that (March 11th)
https://preview.redd.it/0ahkog3wg3n...bp&s=74ea4575d25e98ac28eaddf2f20a48114729117e
"my publicist would get mad at me" - she was with karlie at the ODLR show and refused to answer why she was at that event. Quote:
tom hiddleston world tour - pretty obvious pr.
proud bracelet - she posted wearing a bracelet made by a fan with the bi flag colors that says "proud"
https://preview.redd.it/0g6jy8gch3n...bp&s=6a023f3e44dbd6a27a2bf3c7b6cbba4ae4017c2b
olivia rodrigo - she has liked a tiktok about swiftgron, also watches glee (from her song deja vu) and follows Dianna, has posted about taylor's rainbow guitar strings on the betty live performance
https://preview.redd.it/b6vzg0z2l3n...bp&s=8b0a6f94d82dacf41080b8dfd547bbd2af3b86c5
"hi taylor" - dianna said this when asked if she had something to do with taylor; (similar to how Taylor S does it in the SNL monologue song about Taylor L) Also "wouldn't that be juicy"
false god live SNL - very gay; Dianna Agron was in the audience
delicate live at lgbt event - self explanatory, she sang it with hayley; article
snl - old snl video where she is a "roomate" with another girl, but it's kinda obvious they are more than friends
gay texas train - photo of Taylor with Emily Poe where they giggle at the word "gay"
https://preview.redd.it/mdhgbkdi94n...bp&s=1f999ad7fb3426edb8769d3d44ca11cf11045d6c
taylr - karlie misspelled her name on the beach "My name is whatever you decide" - Don't blame me
https://preview.redd.it/zhd2ia7er3n...bp&s=1e8d2f4a77cb970d4578d1d9b9f236912f53d084
4th layer
https://preview.redd.it/jn0vandbl3n...bp&s=6dab8693d4fae03fdd6a7b8cd270b3583eb6607a
lizzo fanfic - lizzo wrote a NSFW fanfic about her and taylor and read it
"my girlfriend's apartment" - she literally said this, the gf in question is probably dianna because this was during red
me! out now - she posted this when ME! was out and it was on lesbian visibility day
https://preview.redd.it/i1oog68qr3n...bp&s=f411b2b249d8c840dcc72c81eee423f1e164ecd3
wear you like a necklace - gay term for cunnilingus, part of the "so it goes" lyrics
wonderland photoshoot - very gay looking, also connected to dianna
hunger games date - she was seen by fans with dianna and a group of friends seeing the hunger games movie. also
https://preview.redd.it/umw5nx36s3n...bp&s=8d6b20154e231426e06ae8252f02e48eb6fcdc9f
"bitches and models" - while making the song "the man" she says that "bitches and models" HAS to be in the lyrics. This becomes much more interesting when you see the storyline on spotify. Quote:
Thank you u/Bryoneehhh_ for mentioning this. Holy shit this is so loud I can't believe people still think she's straight.
#burma - quote from u/Far_Appointment6743 "I think Kk posted something on Instagram to make it look like she was in Burma, but was then was photographed in nyc with Taylor"
5th layer
https://preview.redd.it/kx8exhycl3n...bp&s=b7372cc4b565fa4764d3bd728f1cb8329c0f196f
3rd polaroid - only 2 polaroids with karlie were posted. everyone wants to see the third.
https://preview.redd.it/ejuneylgs3n...bp&s=b7fbb63093b3467dabeedc8c136c1c57fe8aef4c
halsey - she has a few songs with taylor's song's titles in them. Halsey also congratulated Taylor on folklore saying "And congratulations, to you, on a beautiful confessional album." as seven plays.
https://preview.redd.it/732ld9lfn4n...bp&s=45621691d5a925cffd2dd1963d6b7720ba3fd7d1
"everything that makes ME! me" - gay pride is what makes the music videos ME! be like taylor. this was in the documentary
"i'm new york city you're the west village" - false god lyrics; karlie had an apartment in the west village which she later sold
that's when - she changed the pronouns from "he" to "you" in Taylor's Version, making it gender neutral. post
143 - 143 stands for "I love you" as in first word is 1 letter, second 4, third 3. Here's more details. Dianna tweeted "143 remember those days?" with a broken heart emoji when the photoshoot with Karlie was posted in 2015.
https://preview.redd.it/kt6zmv7nc3n...bp&s=6739c4741fa2f013b18f03e62efdc90511eda6fa
karlie's room at her apartment - just bestie things /sneed they lived very close, but karlie had a room in Taylor's apartment. There is also a blind item about her moving out
cat on a leash - taylor wrote a joke on dianna's door at her bd party (she was dressed as a cat) and that kinda connects to "I left a note with a joke we made" in holy ground
I’m a little kitten and I need to nurse because I’m a runt and I’m likely to fall victim to predators
the butterfly mural - it looks like karlie's wings and was painted by an artist who made a lot of art from the vogue magazine shoot.
Quote from u/thatotherhemingway :
https://preview.redd.it/d9szmymst3n...bp&s=0a6f36d51e6cba6a2b7cd8599195b25d058ecf24
Nils Sjöberg - she wrote "this is what you came for" for calvin by this pseudonym. this is a gaylor analysis about possible easter egg.
her boobs look AMAZING - she wrote this on myspace about a girl, also connects with "2006 myspace presence" of the next layer
https://preview.redd.it/1wfo2y9sn3n...bp&s=15c32327a9891f899799ff9c4fcea994e9ef2cb6
6th layer
https://preview.redd.it/joonfcqxv3n...bp&s=ae8facfc969e6f46b36b67668377a76a0def0da3
dianna's tumblr handle - we fell down the rabbit hole
zoe kravitz - there's a whole presentation about this. they were ALLEGEDLY quarantining together. Zoe also works with Jack. More details in the presentation - very sus. Zoe has a song called "not diana" Some lyrics:
ruby rose caption - ruby posted a picture with her, Taylor, Hayley Kiyoko and Morgan Beau - all out as lesbians except Taylor. Allegedly, she originally captioned it “everyone in this photo is happy, even if it doesn’t look like it” but then changed it. (gay = happy?) Now the caption is "We are much happier than we appear in this photo. We just take being happy VERY seriously."
Taylor was also giving a speech about Ruby Rose on the 2016 GLAAD awards and said "She tells the world that no one can judge US and no one can stop US". video (she says that around the 30 second mark)
"I don't care that you have a dic-" Taylor says in an interview:
pfeiffer big sur state - Taylor covered "Riptide". She starts smiling when singing "Closest thing to Michelle Pfeiffer that you've ever seen".
- Karlie has liked a tweet comparing her to Michelle. (You can also hear Taylor singing klossest thing)
https://preview.redd.it/54ne51pyv3n...bp&s=77272dcea5243b7a4e1f8fad917087cf29f9b827
Also:
https://preview.redd.it/oasbopazv3n...bp&s=20b5ac02456e6aac6184fef7370a84318cde3074
- Dianna tweeted that these lyrics make her smile a few months before the cover and she has played Michelle's daughter in the movie The Family.
https://preview.redd.it/i7ex0utzv3n...bp&s=42c0de82a3d774c90d9c8a65b95f9565e61098ee
karlie birthday skype outfit & KOMH - the outfit taylor wore during making KOMH was the same as the one she was wearing when skyping with Karlie for her birthday.
https://preview.redd.it/6layi5g0w3n...bp&s=c5fb72cf83bde1a7402adb2c12fb448c2bb59e54
jack antonoff likes working with gay women - jack said this while talking about taylor
daisy - "once I was poison ivy, but now I am YOUR daisy" karlie tagged taylor as the daisy from the big sur trip and she was the one wearing the daisy on her ear
https://preview.redd.it/cpg0wx11w3n...bp&s=6c358273c25b9dc5317b732cc7361ea101f38fc8
https://preview.redd.it/64s9dym1w3n...bp&s=c365fd36bcf14289a237385913a24b37fe593a35
I would also like to add the ivy lyrics: "My house of stone, your ivy grows/ And now I'm covered in you"
this love is different - this was the original lyrics to Love Story, not difficult
7th layer
https://preview.redd.it/ptvdjd42w3n...bp&s=2d4d150fed4e82ef2f78214abac16bdc0d355d4d
so I have an inside source at glee - taylor tweeted this
but she deleted the tweet after her song didn’t appear in the episode. also, in the specific episode dianna's character quinn has gay sex
https://preview.redd.it/uq0srjr9x3n...bp&s=5efad4d211a142c1adb559fa18417330ed98b569
karlie and cara - they kissed (cara delevingne; part of taylor's squad)
https://preview.redd.it/nfl27p3ws4n...bp&s=54dc2949ae46a8e58fc9c5b330fc41fcf1d7d431
Also, I would like to add:
https://preview.redd.it/vr6e3qi6w3n...bp&s=198e889236c64942ba595614ac4883cb9392ce53
curious with hayley - she sang hayley's song after karlie announced she was engaged; part of the lyrics
london boy/booksmart - she sampled a song that was played during the lesbian sex in the movie Booksmart for london boy
https://preview.redd.it/uep5ar37w3n...bp&s=64f4910c5c8bccad44909aaf519b2d779fed9835
Also note: Olivia Wilde is the director of Booksmart and she is friends with Dianna.
"i grew a big ol beard" - calvin harris' deleted tweets
https://preview.redd.it/k1qe3mq7w3n...bp&s=229340b2c976794b124f238888f48190c1a53ea5
"on the way home" - from YAIL "you can feel it on the way home", "on the way home" is the caption on instagram on the photo
https://preview.redd.it/vo8jo2b8w3n...bp&s=e7e1aefd2e2e2feb340564c856879410375b4b76
"who does the dishes? She does" - Karlie is asked if they bake cookes with Taylor and she says that she's the one who cooks and Taylor does the dishes. (1:57)
kaylor fanfic/lyrics references - there is a kaylor fanfiction Kaylor: The Timeline that has a bunch of lyrical references to taylor’s songs from rep-evermore but was written before those albums came out. post from a gaylor on this sub
8th layer
https://preview.redd.it/or4upvnaw3n...bp&s=6d0184698d9f4ee10394108c75f2130d69d10b2e
babe music video - it's crazy. the same as sam smith's "i know I'm not the only one" in which dianna's playing the wife. just look at the photos and the TIMESTAMPS. Here you can find more details.
https://preview.redd.it/2djvo489w3n...bp&s=e1995db70f36bcfb33e0451e06aade3c5cc38610
https://preview.redd.it/kwhuicjbw3n...bp&s=e56dcd78ac603d66db855e3e6185178ada558ba5
https://preview.redd.it/4n26q82cw3n...bp&s=017ac531c1bc60001a7a076f07750d4745b2b48b
https://preview.redd.it/cu9inrqcw3n...bp&s=b921d1f4b32f384bebe9fa7b6da7dcbd88f8add6
https://preview.redd.it/psjk5yodw3n...bp&s=a26012a176f63e41ae93eea48b04bd2e67f59042
Yes, it's a lot. I know. This is a rabbit hole of GIFs, pictures, and formatting that leaves at least a decent amount to be desired.
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