Disaster "Mass casualty incident" declared after Key Bridge in Baltimore collapses

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No article yet as this just happened, but could be big. One of the largest bridges in the world according to Wikipedia.


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This has dick to do with infrastructure, there isn't a single bridge ever built by man on the face of the Earth that you could ask to remain standing after taking a hit from a ship that heavy at that fucking speed
I think people are blaming less the infrastructure of the bridge built ages ago, and rather trying to see if this is a result of the growing competency crisis..
The ship seemed to have an electrical problem before the crash, and we don't know who the harbor pilot was. If it's anything but a white man then you'll be hearing "the west has fallen" a lot more
 
Is that a trick question? Because all suspension bridge collapses resulted in their total destruction, unless you count that one case in Indonesia where two pillars were left standing.

Cool strawman. Reread what I posted. The damage would have been catastrophic regardless of what bridge type, but the severity of it would vary GREATLY. A suspension bridge would have likely collapsed completely. Same with the truss section. You can compare it to someone being pushed into water while holding on to another person, and that person is holding yet another person, and so on. In the end they all end up in the water.

I give up, there is no getting through to you. Ask any actual engineer why truss bridges are dangerous. I only have secondhand experience and can't be fucked to reason with you anymore.
So all long bridge designs are retarded and we shouldn't build bridges long enough that they require piers or something? Jeebus you're retarded
 
Now reports theres an odor from the ship, MDE (Maryland Department of the Environment) is on the scene investigating.

Before people roll their eyes just remember that the health of the Chesapeake Bay is a major concern for the area, I mentioned it before but many workers rely on the food that comes from the bay.
That's because Baltimore is a special commodities port. That includes dangerous goods. On top of that, this bridge in particular is a hazardous materials route. So the likelihood of some nasty shit being either on the bridge itself or on the ship is very high.

Wrong. That's exactly why the whole thing collapsed. Had it been a beam bridge, you'd see the damage similar to that chink crash mentioned earlier in the thread.
Let me make something very clear to you. It is a 200k ton ship that's out of control at full speed and ramming directly into what's essentially a major support beam. Nothing is surviving that. There is no structure we have made that CAN survive that. It's just not going to happen no matter what theoretical physics say. It's a cargo ship.
 
Ah america, where it funds top dollar infrastructure, free education,security, and healthcare everywhere else but it in its own soil because reasons, and both democrats and republicans seriously believe it can't be done.

I need not to remind, that whoever was at the helm isn't responsible, yes he is a fucking moron, but bridges shouldn't collapse entirely specially ones in a harbor against a ship slowly moving.

Bridges are supposed to collapse in stages, not all sections at basically the same time, there are bridges in Vietnam who got bombed for 7 years straight and remained operational, the Crimean bridge had a truck full of explosives blow off a section of it, but it was quickly rebuilt.


I'm an engineering student, this shit screams either poor upkeep or poor design who doesn't account for redundancies, which is a e key aspect of civil engineering.
If you are an engineering student then I’m huckleberry Finn. You compare a bridge in Vietnam to a 100,000 ton ship hitting a support pier of a giant bridge that just had one of 2 main support columns smashed with (I’ll say it again) 100,000 tons or so of inertia? And are curious as to why an immense span can’t hold the load?

Go back and redo your physics course.
Give me a single incident where a ship collision caused the entire bridge to collapse, all i got is partial collapses, exactly what I was talking about.
Here just a few weeks ago a container ship collided with a bridge in china, only a partial collapse:

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This is poor engineering.
If you look at the video it struck the inner most supports and not dead-on. A lucky shot by the ship. The heavier the bridge and the greater the span the less tolerance there is for sheer loads. Looking at a video and screaming “poor engineering” without knowing how the ship impacted or why it did the damage is premature. You don’t know what the supports were rated for, you don’t know the weight or speed of the ship or how or exactly where it collided.

It may very well be in sufficiently designed; but as an engineering student you jump to conclusions instead of finding out the bridge tolerances; the ships load, speed or where it impacted.

You’ll impress me when you can tell me what and how a bridge should be rated for and why this one failed to handle the ship.

Until then you’re squalling the same line every novice does. Show us your skill and calculations…engineering student.
 
I give up, there is no getting through to you. Ask any actual engineer why truss bridges are dangerous. I only have secondhand experience and can't be fucked to reason with you anymore.
Maybe if you didn't try to act coy about it for no reason. Since the truss is the only actual loadbearing part it is a singular point of failure. Not great for anything more than a bridge across a creek or small river.
 
How autistic do you need to be to be arguing about fucking bridges? Touch grass you fucking losers.

A big fucking ship goes rudderless in a harbour, which may as well be a pinball table in terms of shit it can hit, it hit something, tragedy ensues.

'but da jews wiv yewkrain smashed da bridge coz niggaz b twerking to chinese tiktok.' :story:
 
Hey guys I'm a plane retard not a boat retard. Why were the lights on the boat flickering on and off on the Livestream before impact?
Loss of power. It could be the result of many things. But be aware these boats are building sized massive and building sized heavy. Slam one of those into a bridge that is old held up my physics and wires and well this shit will happen.
 
Let me make something very clear to you. It is a 200k ton ship that's out of control at full speed and ramming directly into what's essentially a major support beam. Nothing is surviving that. There is no structure we have made that CAN survive that. It's just not going to happen no matter what theoretical physics say. It's a cargo ship.
Only thing I could think of is if they gave it something else to ram into before the pier. Like pillars of cement or artifical island-like stuff around the pier. So the boat would basically run ashore or hit the not-pier before hitting the pier and hopefully be stopped. The kinetic force would probably just wreck the pier as well, however.
 
As much as I'd like to believe ANTIFA Chinese anti-Trump terrorist commie nigger Jews crashed a ship into a bridge in Baltimore (insert pepesiliva.png here), there's not likely to be any foul play here.

1. Container ships in the 2020s are in a size race like ULCC's in the 70s were. They keep getting bigger and bigger to carry more and more containers of Chinese crap around the world. They're dificult and ungainly to maneuver. And unlike tankers, where they've essentially figured out the optimal ratio of ship size to cargo carrying efficiency and aren’t building true monsters anymore, we're still in the 'MAKE EM BIGGER' phase of container ship evolution.

2. Container ships (and other kinds) are very regular about crashing into other ships, the Suez canal, docks, and dock cranes. And in this case, bridges.

3. Ships are complex machines that get run hard as fuck with a bare minimum of maintenance dollars spent, regardless of where they're flagged. Most of them are shitboxes by the time they've been on the water for a decade, and they break down constantly. And sometimes they break down, lose propulsion, and crash into a bridge.

4. There's no way an Asian-flagged container ship has a captain with a master's license for the port of Baltimore. There was a local pilot, who is in theory an expert on those local water, at the helm when the accident happened.

5. It's a continuous truss bridge in Baltimore. By its very design knocking out one end will nuke the whole thing, even before you factor in its location, and likely lack of maintenance.

6. No tugboats? Retarded.
 
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Do we have casualty numbers yet?
The search is ongoing for six people, while one was rescued and is now in hospital. Another person who was involved did not go to hospital. All of them, it appears, were fixing potholes on the bridge when the crash happened.

Ahh, that's true.

For those without a conversion chart, 8 knots is about 10 mph, which is fast for a big fuckoff cargo ship.
Governor Moore says the ship was moving towards the bridge at a "very rapid speed".

He said the cargo ship's operators called a "mayday' - an emergency signal - but the vessel's speed appeared to be too fast to avoid the incident.

However, he said the distress call did ensure more cars were stopped from crossing the bridge, averting greater disaster.

"These people are heroes," he said. "They saved lives last night."
 
I think people are blaming less the infrastructure of the bridge built ages ago, and rather trying to see if this is a result of the growing competency crisis..
The ship seemed to have an electrical problem before the crash, and we don't know who the harbor pilot was. If it's anything but a white man then you'll be hearing "the west has fallen" a lot more
Even if it is a white captain, it shows the failure of promoting competency and meritocracy.
 
As much as I'd like to believe ANTIFA Chinese anti-Trump terrorist commie niggers crashed a ship into a bridge in Baltimore (insert pepesiliva.png here), there's not likely to be any foul play here.

1. Container ships in the 2020s are like ULCC's in the 70s. They keep getting bigger and bigger to carry more and more containers of Chinese crap around the world. They're dificult and ungainly to maneuver. And unlike tankers, where they've essentially figured out the optimal ratio of ship size to cargo carrying efficiency, we're still in the 'MAKE EM BIGGER' phase of container ship evolution.

2. Container ships (and other kinds) are very regular about crashing into other ships, the Suez canal, docks, and dock cranes. And in this case, bridges.

3. Ships are complex machines that get run hard as fuck with a bare minimum of maintenance dollars spent, regardless of where they're flagged. Most of them are shitboxes by the time they've been on the water for a decade, and they break down constantly. And sometimes they break down, lose propulsion, and crash into a bridge.

4. There's no way an Asian-flagged container ship has a captain with a master's license for the port of Baltimore. There was a local pilot, who is in theory an expert on those local water, at the helm when the accident happened.

5. It's a continuous truss bridge in Baltimore. By its very design knocking out one end will nuke the whole thing, even before you factor in its location, and likely lack of maintenance.

6. No tugboats? Retarded.
No boats use tugboats in that position.
 
Man I know we have all had that one thought when crossing a bridge at night "what if this shit just falls over and I fall into the void? What if a random tiny section just falls apart and I can't react in time?" What a helluva way to die. That company is about to shell out some massive money to grieving families, and probably to the United States itself.

Actually that brings me to a question for the more geopolitically minded Kiwis. How would compensation work in this situation? A foreign company just fucks up your 100+ million dollar bridge, kills your citizens, and damages the regional economy in the area for a very long time. Will the US just demand a certain dollar amount that the company will be forced to pay?
The bridge was old but damn.. They didn't seem to have any tower protection in the water. Nuts. Especially for a port area bridge.

Looks like there were cars, a truck and workers doing work on it at the time. :/

Hope the loss of life is zero or at least minimal. Thoughts and prayers.

There are ships trapped in port now and ones waiting to get in. What a mess.
I love the optimism but sorry to say there's no fucking way no one died from that. Hell I'm very surprised that anyone that was on the collapsed section survived that fall. Apparently two workers were rescued and one hospitalized. Looking at the bridge specifications its almost a 200 foot fall into the water, and a fall into water depending on multiple factors can be fatal around the 50 foot mark.

I would imagine a car falling that height into water wouldn't even have time to float due to the velocity and just immediately go under. I do know if your car dives nose first into water it will immediately sink in most cases. I'm trying to imagine a multitude of scenarios here, and even if you did break your car window after it goes under now you're in the total fucking dark under the water in a very high stress situation....not looking good. Most of the time if your car falls into water and its still floating on the surface you need to roll down the windows ASAP before the water pressure makes it impossible, or fucks up the electronics. I do not think the cars and trucks on the bridge had the time for that.
 
Personal theory. Niggers like to steal. Dc and Baltimore are full of niggers. A bunch of niggers got together and stole the cargo ship thinking it was the score of a lifetime. Niggers don’t know how to drive a boat and crashed into the bridge. The flashing lights were due to them trying to turn up volume of shitty music so they could dance while they got away.
 
$40 on a woman because this was caused by bad driving (navigating?)
Seconding this one, but because the ship ripped through the support so easily, it's like the support was made of paper mache. I want to bet something about this bridge was not up to regulation, and some overseeing official turned a blind eye because the people in charge of construction were either Black, women or both.
 
Everyone making this grand conspiracy about what happened and I'm sitting here like:

The most likely thing that happened, the ship probably had poor maintenance in the engines resulting in power dropping locking the rudder in position at the worst possible time. The generators start to power back up, but just due to bad timing it didn't make a difference. The ship hits, and the bridge falls.

Now just to wait for the NTSB reports and ultimately the Brick Immortar video about it.
 
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