Featured on Mar 26, 2024 by Null: The Francis Scott Key bridge, an important part of the Baltimore-D.C. I-695 Beltway, has collapsed after being impacted by a Singaporean cargo ship manned by a crew of 22 Indians.
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I think people are blaming less the infrastructure of the bridge built ages ago, and rather trying to see if this is a result of the growing competency crisis..This has dick to do with infrastructure, there isn't a single bridge ever built by man on the face of the Earth that you could ask to remain standing after taking a hit from a ship that heavy at that fucking speed
So all long bridge designs are retarded and we shouldn't build bridges long enough that they require piers or something? Jeebus you're retardedIs that a trick question? Because all suspension bridge collapses resulted in their total destruction, unless you count that one case in Indonesia where two pillars were left standing.
Cool strawman. Reread what I posted. The damage would have been catastrophic regardless of what bridge type, but the severity of it would vary GREATLY. A suspension bridge would have likely collapsed completely. Same with the truss section. You can compare it to someone being pushed into water while holding on to another person, and that person is holding yet another person, and so on. In the end they all end up in the water.
I give up, there is no getting through to you. Ask any actual engineer why truss bridges are dangerous. I only have secondhand experience and can't be fucked to reason with you anymore.
That's because Baltimore is a special commodities port. That includes dangerous goods. On top of that, this bridge in particular is a hazardous materials route. So the likelihood of some nasty shit being either on the bridge itself or on the ship is very high.Now reports theres an odor from the ship, MDE (Maryland Department of the Environment) is on the scene investigating.
Before people roll their eyes just remember that the health of the Chesapeake Bay is a major concern for the area, I mentioned it before but many workers rely on the food that comes from the bay.
Let me make something very clear to you. It is a 200k ton ship that's out of control at full speed and ramming directly into what's essentially a major support beam. Nothing is surviving that. There is no structure we have made that CAN survive that. It's just not going to happen no matter what theoretical physics say. It's a cargo ship.Wrong. That's exactly why the whole thing collapsed. Had it been a beam bridge, you'd see the damage similar to that chink crash mentioned earlier in the thread.
If you are an engineering student then I’m huckleberry Finn. You compare a bridge in Vietnam to a 100,000 ton ship hitting a support pier of a giant bridge that just had one of 2 main support columns smashed with (I’ll say it again) 100,000 tons or so of inertia? And are curious as to why an immense span can’t hold the load?Ah america, where it funds top dollar infrastructure, free education,security, and healthcare everywhere else but it in its own soil because reasons, and both democrats and republicans seriously believe it can't be done.
I need not to remind, that whoever was at the helm isn't responsible, yes he is a fucking moron, but bridges shouldn't collapse entirely specially ones in a harbor against a ship slowly moving.
Bridges are supposed to collapse in stages, not all sections at basically the same time, there are bridges in Vietnam who got bombed for 7 years straight and remained operational, the Crimean bridge had a truck full of explosives blow off a section of it, but it was quickly rebuilt.
I'm an engineering student, this shit screams either poor upkeep or poor design who doesn't account for redundancies, which is a e key aspect of civil engineering.
If you look at the video it struck the inner most supports and not dead-on. A lucky shot by the ship. The heavier the bridge and the greater the span the less tolerance there is for sheer loads. Looking at a video and screaming “poor engineering” without knowing how the ship impacted or why it did the damage is premature. You don’t know what the supports were rated for, you don’t know the weight or speed of the ship or how or exactly where it collided.Give me a single incident where a ship collision caused the entire bridge to collapse, all i got is partial collapses, exactly what I was talking about.
Here just a few weeks ago a container ship collided with a bridge in china, only a partial collapse:
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This is poor engineering.
Maybe if you didn't try to act coy about it for no reason. Since the truss is the only actual loadbearing part it is a singular point of failure. Not great for anything more than a bridge across a creek or small river.I give up, there is no getting through to you. Ask any actual engineer why truss bridges are dangerous. I only have secondhand experience and can't be fucked to reason with you anymore.
Loss of power. It could be the result of many things. But be aware these boats are building sized massive and building sized heavy. Slam one of those into a bridge that is old held up my physics and wires and well this shit will happen.Hey guys I'm a plane retard not a boat retard. Why were the lights on the boat flickering on and off on the Livestream before impact?
Only thing I could think of is if they gave it something else to ram into before the pier. Like pillars of cement or artifical island-like stuff around the pier. So the boat would basically run ashore or hit the not-pier before hitting the pier and hopefully be stopped. The kinetic force would probably just wreck the pier as well, however.Let me make something very clear to you. It is a 200k ton ship that's out of control at full speed and ramming directly into what's essentially a major support beam. Nothing is surviving that. There is no structure we have made that CAN survive that. It's just not going to happen no matter what theoretical physics say. It's a cargo ship.
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Vessel Information:
Name: Dali
- Capacity: 10,000 TEU
- Onboard Units: 4,679 TEU
- DWT:116,851.
- Crew: All Indian, 22 in total
- Owner: Grace Ocean Private Ltd
- Movement: Outbound from Baltimore to Colombo
Do we have casualty numbers yet?
The search is ongoing for six people, while one was rescued and is now in hospital. Another person who was involved did not go to hospital. All of them, it appears, were fixing potholes on the bridge when the crash happened.
Ahh, that's true.
For those without a conversion chart, 8 knots is about 10 mph, which is fast for a big fuckoff cargo ship.
Governor Moore says the ship was moving towards the bridge at a "very rapid speed".
He said the cargo ship's operators called a "mayday' - an emergency signal - but the vessel's speed appeared to be too fast to avoid the incident.
However, he said the distress call did ensure more cars were stopped from crossing the bridge, averting greater disaster.
"These people are heroes," he said. "They saved lives last night."
Even if it is a white captain, it shows the failure of promoting competency and meritocracy.I think people are blaming less the infrastructure of the bridge built ages ago, and rather trying to see if this is a result of the growing competency crisis..
The ship seemed to have an electrical problem before the crash, and we don't know who the harbor pilot was. If it's anything but a white man then you'll be hearing "the west has fallen" a lot more
No boats use tugboats in that position.As much as I'd like to believe ANTIFA Chinese anti-Trump terrorist commie niggers crashed a ship into a bridge in Baltimore (insert pepesiliva.png here), there's not likely to be any foul play here.
1. Container ships in the 2020s are like ULCC's in the 70s. They keep getting bigger and bigger to carry more and more containers of Chinese crap around the world. They're dificult and ungainly to maneuver. And unlike tankers, where they've essentially figured out the optimal ratio of ship size to cargo carrying efficiency, we're still in the 'MAKE EM BIGGER' phase of container ship evolution.
2. Container ships (and other kinds) are very regular about crashing into other ships, the Suez canal, docks, and dock cranes. And in this case, bridges.
3. Ships are complex machines that get run hard as fuck with a bare minimum of maintenance dollars spent, regardless of where they're flagged. Most of them are shitboxes by the time they've been on the water for a decade, and they break down constantly. And sometimes they break down, lose propulsion, and crash into a bridge.
4. There's no way an Asian-flagged container ship has a captain with a master's license for the port of Baltimore. There was a local pilot, who is in theory an expert on those local water, at the helm when the accident happened.
5. It's a continuous truss bridge in Baltimore. By its very design knocking out one end will nuke the whole thing, even before you factor in its location, and likely lack of maintenance.
6. No tugboats? Retarded.
I love the optimism but sorry to say there's no fucking way no one died from that. Hell I'm very surprised that anyone that was on the collapsed section survived that fall. Apparently two workers were rescued and one hospitalized. Looking at the bridge specifications its almost a 200 foot fall into the water, and a fall into water depending on multiple factors can be fatal around the 50 foot mark.The bridge was old but damn.. They didn't seem to have any tower protection in the water. Nuts. Especially for a port area bridge.
Looks like there were cars, a truck and workers doing work on it at the time. :/
Hope the loss of life is zero or at least minimal. Thoughts and prayers.
There are ships trapped in port now and ones waiting to get in. What a mess.
Seconding this one, but because the ship ripped through the support so easily, it's like the support was made of paper mache. I want to bet something about this bridge was not up to regulation, and some overseeing official turned a blind eye because the people in charge of construction were either Black, women or both.$40 on a woman because this was caused by bad driving (navigating?)