Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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I've only watched Ayy Lmao, and honestly I stopped watching because he doesn't seem to be a supporter of Viv, more of a dick rider. Back during the LackaDaisy fundraiser, Ayy Lmao completely ignored the fact that Viv used her SpindleHorse account to donate the $25k rather than a personal account, just to get her production tag attached to it.
After that he only really covered low hanging fruit when it came to criticism of Viv. Mostly stuff like "why do people hate Viv's style" with his answer usually being "they just need something to hate with Vivienne" rather than the legit reasons of every silhouette being the nearly the same.
Autistic rant ending before I get MATI.

As someone who likes Viv's work but see's it has imperfections I can tell you not every fan of Viv's work is cringey or bad. Ayy LMAO I always viewed as a neutral figure in the community. I have no idea who Iox is.
Looking through your opinions I think I am better off unsubscribing from Ayy Lmao since I don't get anything out of his videos anymore. I appreciate the responses.

Also if I were to request one song to be put in Hazbin Hotel (impossible scenario) I would pick this song. Omit the last four lyrics in this song.
 
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I'm sure Adam and friends are intentionally made out to be extremists, but his right hand man in Lute is portrayed as deranged but loyal. Maybe that's because it's written by retarded Californians, but Adam is a dipshit, and Lute seems like an overall good person.
Don’t think I’d call Lute a good person given her sadism and the fact she shares Adam’s viewpoint. But as you pointed out, she is shown to be extremely loyal to Adam and is devastated by his death, so I wouldn’t say Lute is entirely bad either. She’s definitely more on the “evil” side of Heaven, though.

By contrast, there’s Sera, who is more on the “good” side and is essentially a well-intentioned extremist.
 
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I wonder why Lute and Loona have similar personalities, similar names, and a similar appearance. I think Vivz might have a thing for white haired intense goth/punk girls.
Same reason Adam and Mammon are basically the same guy with a different accent, Viv isn't very creative.

Don’t think I’d call Lute a good person given her sadism and the fact she shares Adam’s viewpoint. But as you pointed out, she is shown to be extremely loyal to Adam and is devastated by his death, so I wouldn’t say Lute is entirely bad either. She’s definitely more on the “evil” side of Heaven, though.

By contrast, there’s Sera, who is more on the “good” side and is essentially a well-intentioned extremist.
Women are best when they're a little bit sadistic. Though really when has murder ever been shown as a negative in the show? Probably all of once when Vaggie was going to kill the kid, but outside of that it's always treated as a gag or no big deal. That's just another issue with the writing, nothing about what Heaven is doing is made to feel impactful, and even Charlie doesn't seem to treat it as a horrific event.
 
Though really when has murder ever been shown as a negative in the show? Probably all of once when Vaggie was going to kill the kid, but outside of that it's always treated as a gag or no big deal. That's just another issue with the writing, nothing about what Heaven is doing is made to feel impactful, and even Charlie doesn't seem to treat it as a horrific event.
I think it’s more that murder is mostly seen as bad from Charlie’s point of view because she’s the only one who gives a shit about trying to change things.

Not saying Hazbin’s writing is good, because it’s mediocre at best, but Charlie is noticeably upset in episode 1 when she’s trying to explain to Adam and Lute how horrible it is that they’re killing human souls. She’s used to seeing it happen by now and is probably more saddened by everyone else’s apathy than anything.
 
I think it’s more that murder is mostly seen as bad from Charlie’s point of view because she’s the only one who gives a shit about trying to change things.

Not saying Hazbin’s writing is good, because it’s mediocre at best, but Charlie is noticeably upset in episode 1 when she’s trying to explain to Adam and Lute how horrible it is that they’re killing human souls. She’s used to seeing it happen by now and is probably more saddened by everyone else’s apathy than anything.
Your jealous you don't have Viv's writing ability cause if Kiwi Farms subhuman scum wrote a show it would be nothing but killing LGBTQ people
 
Speaking of reanimated stuff, VivziePop was apparently in a Cartoon All-Stars reanimated collab. The goal was to reanimate the song about saying no to drugs, and she butchered the antagonist's appearance. Here's what he looks like in the actual show-
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-and here's how Viv made him look.
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It's astonishing how she stripped the purple weed man of all his aura. He looks like Alastor now, it's like she can't help herself
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That's just the Phantom Virus!
 
Your jealous you don't have Viv's writing ability cause if Kiwi Farms subhuman scum wrote a show it would be nothing but killing LGBTQ people
I actually had an idea for a Kiwi Farms show.

The premise is simple: It's gonna be us kiwi fams farming kiwis in a literal, actual kiwi farm in good ol' New Zealand and taking care of our lolcows with Dear Feeder watching over us incase we fuck up.
Hijinks ensue every episode, complete with injokes (No, child.) yada yada.
I probably have the skills to draw some stills but I don't think I have the patience or know-how to animate anything, and my voice is crippled by my thick accent.

And I'm shit at writing :(
 
I actually had an idea for a Kiwi Farms show.

The premise is simple: It's gonna be us kiwi fams farming kiwis in a literal, actual kiwi farm in good ol' New Zealand and taking care of our lolcows with Dear Feeder watching over us incase we fuck up.
Hijinks ensue every episode, complete with injokes (No, child.) yada yada.
I probably have the skills to draw some stills but I don't think I have the patience or know-how to animate anything, and my voice is crippled by my thick accent.

And I'm shit at writing :(
You are shit at writing.

Where are the Sonic recolors? The merge?
 
Your jealous you don't have Viv's writing ability cause if Kiwi Farms subhuman scum wrote a show it would be nothing but killing LGBTQ people
Do you Hazbin shills have any other response to criticism? Every single time it’s either “durrrr they’re in hell of course they’re bad people” (usually in response to characterization issues and not their actual actions) or “well OBVIOUSLY you’re just jealous of Viv and her mediocre at best show! You’re just a hater!” (Which I am but that’s beside the point)
 
Then the rest who are just good virtuous angels who had to be kept hidden about the mass murders the other angels commit.
What about the Cherubs? They were so utterly adorable. I wish we'd seen them again, they were so much more interesting than the weird bullshit outright evil "angels" we got instead.
Do you Hazbin shills have any other response to criticism?
This retard isn't even a shill he's an actual lolcow with a thread here. Quit responding to him as if he's an actual human.

Here's his thread:
 
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What about the Cherubs? They were so utterly adorable. I wish we'd seen them again, they were so much more interesting than the weird bullshit outright evil "angels" we got instead.
The Cherubs episode was what made me stop caring about HB, not because of them but because of how the message was just "le capitalism is le heckin' bad" message being forced in, and now they're working with Amazon of all people. I don't think they were made to make Heaven look good, rather they were there as a tool to pummel the thing the writers didn't like, which just shows how inconsistent the writing is to suit the whims of the writer's ego.
 
Your jealous you don't have Viv's writing ability cause if Kiwi Farms subhuman scum wrote a show it would be nothing but killing LGBTQ people

You literal retard, I've prompted ChatGPT to write better shit than Vivz did. She clearly went with first draft quality dialog and screenplays.

A competent writer could have done this so much better with the premise, characters, and hooks she had.
 
The Cherubs episode was what made me stop caring about HB, not because of them but because of how the message was just "le capitalism is le heckin' bad" message being forced in, and now they're working with Amazon of all people. I don't think they were made to make Heaven look good, rather they were there as a tool to pummel the thing the writers didn't like, which just shows how inconsistent the writing is to suit the whims of the writer's ego.
But capitalism is bad
 
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