Disaster "Mass casualty incident" declared after Key Bridge in Baltimore collapses

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No article yet as this just happened, but could be big. One of the largest bridges in the world according to Wikipedia.


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Considering the diverse times we live in that may become more of a necessity in design.
This would be like building a car that can withstand a side impact from a freight train - pretty much impossible. You may as well abandon a bridge completely and fill the port in with dirt.
 
I only did a quick skim but it looks like the minimum criteria is that it must be able to withstand an empty hopper barge drifting in the current, so even a bridge built to these standards likely would not have survived a direct hit from a (full?) cargo ship with plenty of momentum.
There is a reason its the minimum. The determination of vessel collision design forces is an extremely complex process that usually requires it's own investigation and report, which the commentary hints at.
 
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Mildly educated opinion on this.

I've watched the video like 20 times. Ship loses the plant. Looks like the vessel is lined up to pass under the center span of the bridge before loss of power. Thirty seconds after power loss either plant is restored or the EDG finally trips. Vessel goes full astern (black exhaust out the stack means she's really pushing it) and the ship begins turning to the right.

Why? Because a standard propeller backs to the left, turning the bow to starboard.

If I were making a guess, I'd say the accident was caused not just by a loss of power but also likely a poor response from the conning officer. While I like "oh shit dump it" commands as much as the next guy, I think this was probably the cause of the vessel veering and ultimately the allision.
That was pretty much what I saw, too. Lighting went out, indicating loss of hotel power. The emergency generator probably went online right after that, hence the lights popping back on. Without the computer logs (or a completed investigation and report from the USCG, which could take a little while), it's hard to say when, or if, they had rudder or prop. They could have practically been adrift almost the entire time, except for the part where they straightened out and stopped turning. Of course, everyone on social media is saying it looked intentional, but that may not be the case at all. In fact, the most likely scenario here is that this was just a freak accident.



That's some crazy fucking shit.
 
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@Null , the featured heading is incorrect. The Francis Scott Key Bridge is the 3rd longest continuous truss bridge by span (the longest length of unsupported roadway). If we’re going with specifics, the 3rd longest bridge is the Kita–Yaita Viaduct in Japan, which is 114,424 m. The 3rd longest bridge by span (span is the main definite measure for the longest bridge) is the Yangsigang Bridge (a suspension bridge) in China, which is 1,700 m. The Francis Scott Key Bridge’s span is only 366 m.
 
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Only you faggots could turn a freak accident of a boat running into a bridge into a fight about current year politics.
We need to know the cause in order to prevent these kinds of tragedies. If it was a freak accident, then prayers for the deceased and their families. If it was due to gross incompetence or any other man-made factors, then steps must be taken to reduce or eliminate them.
 
The ship seemed to have an electrical problem before the crash, and we don't know who the harbor pilot was. If it's anything but a white man then you'll be hearing "the west has fallen" a lot more
I think it's fair to question whether the obsession with DEI and the general "race to the bottom" has led to improper maintenance or corporate negligence.

That said, the first thing I would do is investigate is whether the corporate entity (Synergy Group?) that owned or operated the ship was cutting costs at the expense of basic operational safety.

Surely this couldn't be the first time this ship suddenly lost power, right?

These "unexpected" and "sudden" power failures might have been a relatively common occurrence.
 
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@Null , the featured heading is incorrect. The Francis Scott Key Bridge is the 3rd longest continuous truss bridge by span (the longest length of unsupported roadway). If we’re going with specifics, the 3rd longest bridge is the Kita–Yaita Viaduct in Japan, which is 114,424 m. The 3rd longest bridge by span (span is the main definite measure for the longest bridge) is the Yangzigang Bridge (a suspension bridge) in China, which is 1,700 m. The Francis Scott Key Bridge’s span is only 366 m.​
Admin btfo using FACTS and LOGIC.
 
We need to know the cause in order to prevent these kinds of tragedies. If it was a freak accident, then prayers for the deceased and their families. If it was due to gross incompetence or any other man-made factors, then steps must be taken to reduce or eliminate them.
And idle speculation and fantasizing about how this is all a predictable result of [Insert Pet Ideology Here] doesn't do any of that.
 
Shipping autistic breaks it down. Apparently the boat suffered some sort of catastrophic mechanical failure prior to impact.
How common is that? Again I know nothing about shipping but is it common to have one of these bajillion dollar ships just have the electrics go off. And on. And off again. Without storm damage or heavy seas? Maybe this happens a lot and it was just the worst possible place.
Dig a tunnel.
I’m not sure that would work if they need to keep this as the hazmat route?
 
Shipping autistic breaks it down. Apparently the boat suffered some sort of catastrophic mechanical failure prior to impact.
How common is that? Again I know nothing about shipping but is it common to have one of these bajillion dollar ships just have the electrics go off. And on. And off again. Without storm damage or heavy seas? Maybe this happens a lot and it was just the worst possible place.
Dig a tunnel.
I’m not sure that would work if they need to keep this as the hazmat route?

i'm gonna go watch some videos on how to escape a sinking car.
If there’s more than a few cm of water in the outside of the door the door won’t open and the window won’t roll down (even more so these days with everything electric.) keep a window break hammer in the central console. I’ve heard that in a pinch you can use the seatbelt buckle as well but I do t know how true that is. Nightmarish to think about
 
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@Null , the featured heading is incorrect. The Francis Scott Key Bridge is the 3rd longest continuous truss bridge by span (the longest length of unsupported roadway). If we’re going with specifics, the 3rd longest bridge is the Kita–Yaita Viaduct in Japan, which is 114,424 m. The 3rd longest bridge by span (span is the main definite measure for the longest bridge) is the Yangzigang Bridge (a suspension bridge) in China, which is 1,700 m. The Francis Scott Key Bridge’s span is only 366 m.
I appreciate the autism.
I think it's fair to question whether the obsession with DEI and the general "race to the bottom" has led to improper maintenance or corporate negligence.

That said, the first thing I would do is investigate is whether the corporate entity (Synergy Group?) that owned or operated the ship was cutting costs at the expense of basic operational safety.

Surely this couldn't be the first time this ship suddenly lost power, right?

These "unexpected" and "sudden" power failures might have been a relatively common occurrence.
It’s no different than when authoritarian states hire based on party loyalty. Everything goes to shit.
 
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