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The episode is 80 minutes long. I will write a summary when I have time, I have to be sociable for a mandatory fun day.
In the meantime, enjoy the unedited, unfiltered shots of Nyk.
ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"
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The episode is 80 minutes long. I will write a summary when I have time, I have to be sociable for a mandatory fun day.
In the meantime, enjoy the unedited, unfiltered shots of Nyk.
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I think there's dirt on both sides where the Tube/Contra thing is concerned, that's why neither will move against the other.
"If you tell them that about me, I'll tell them this about you..."
Mutually assured dilation destruction.
"If you tell them that about me, I'll tell them this about you..."
Mutually assured
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Just in case you didn't see the PT thread - Contra has now clarified that no choobing occured.
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It was in response to a tweet featuring a typical choob schizo collage, so in other words a tacit affirmation of the non-sexual-assault parts of the collage
It does leave open the question "who is the 'prominent leftist' that Contra could #MeToo, if it's not Ollie?".
Anyway, potentially quite a catty move - leave the speculation up for a whole day, potentially to the point that the negative stink could damage PT's creative products due to risk-of-scandal, but then clarify no SA occurred after the damage had been done, exonerating yourself.
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It was in response to a tweet featuring a typical choob schizo collage, so in other words a tacit affirmation of the non-sexual-assault parts of the collage
It does leave open the question "who is the 'prominent leftist' that Contra could #MeToo, if it's not Ollie?".
Anyway, potentially quite a catty move - leave the speculation up for a whole day, potentially to the point that the negative stink could damage PT's creative products due to risk-of-scandal, but then clarify no SA occurred after the damage had been done, exonerating yourself.
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If Contra was smart he'd give up Youtube and pivot to writing where putting in that much effort actually matters. He's too egotistical though, he can't stick with a subject long enough to come up with something profound to say but he's also incapable of accepting that he's just a youtuber. His long form content is a compromise between being an entertainer and wanting to be respected as an academic, he gets to be the top of his field because he's chosen a field of morons. Considering how long he's stuck with this I don't think he's gonna give it up any time soon.
Called it. If there's no sexual assault (or other crimes, as far as I can tell) then just shitting on an ex publicly is a real despicable move.
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I'm still convinced the alleged sexual assault never actually happened or is at the very least greatly exaggerated. Remember at the time Nyk was in the midst of being cAnCeLleD™ for pissing people off with his nonbinary tweets so claiming to be a victim of SA (especially at the hands of *GASP* another prominent leftist! dun dun dun!) was a convenient way to turn the tables on them without having to actually prove anything. "Oh you think I'm the bad guy here? Well I was raped, betcha all feel guilting for coming after me now don't you??" Nyk has never been above making shit up to manipulate his audience.
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I'm trying to get through this but its unbearable. They are so bad-faith
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It was Bernie “grab ‘em by the bussy” Sanders.
Seriously though, I agree with others on here that he probably made it up. Leftists love purges and playing the victim so I can’t imagine Contra passing both up. Either that or it’s some lame shit like someone with more clout tried to fuck him and he felt weird about turning him down because of the “power imbalance” or some other faggotry
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Maybe I'm overthinking this, but I find Contra's habit of posting something somewhat controversial and then quickly deleting it to be part of his self-destructiveness.
He obviously understands that things you put on the internet doesn't easily disappear, and that if only one person sees his tweets, it can be archived in some way. And something inside him wants that. Something inside him wants to cause chaos and drama.
While you are right that the sandpainting probably symbolizes that he makes the tweet go away, I can't really shake the feeling that he also found it fitting to symbolize the fleetingness of careers, reputations etc, as he would like to take everything down the drain with him. He even gave the tweet extra time to simmer as he posted that picture instead of deleting it from the internet, where unlike the sandpainting, "nothing ever gets deleted".
And this seems to be the main difference between Contra and Ollie. Contra is driven (at a snail's pace) by his constant self-doubt and self loathing, and whatever gives him short time relief from that, while Ollie seems to be genuinely happy the more attention he gets, for whatever reason.
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I stopped at 50 mins because I couldn't bear any more. I sometimes enjoy a good Jk Rowling hate video, but this is just so boring and rehases so many points
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I randomly skipped about and landed on
“A life time of misogyny is that I’ve experienced as a woman. “
Fuck off. I’m done.
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I see this statement as a tacit endorsement of the PT skinwalker theory part of the /lgbt/ theory. Might be getting a bit too tinfoil hat here, but the tweet specifies sexual abuse. I think Choob did say an ex of his was physically abusive, so there's still a semantic game that could be played with here.
There are accounts dedicated to archiving Contra's deleted posts, it's a bit of a meme that his deleted posts are actually bangers/funny etc.
archive
https://twitter.com/ContraDeletes
He knows that anything tweeted will be archived, circulated, discussed and memed.
Given his philosophy education, I'm inclined to agree.
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I follow some libshit guy on Instagram and I swear every single time that Matt guy posts he shares it to his story, I have been subjected to every one of that queer jews posts unconsentually
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I think I've said this someplace before but saying that JK is guilty of "holocaust denial" is the absolute most bad-faith thing I've ever seen her accused of. It's because she doesn't think troons were one of the main demographics persecuted in the holocaust. That's literally it. It's as far from Daily Shoah discourse you could possibly be, troons just want to make everything about themselves 24/7.
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Was just thinking - there maybe is still a chance is could be PT.
Contra says: "there's a fairly prominent figure in Leftist politics who I could absolutely #MeToo" and: "SA is not involved in this situation".
These two statements are not necessarily mutually exclusive. It's entirely possible that whoever it was did some #MeToo-worthy shit (at least what Contra considers to have crossed the line) while not actually being rape/sexual assault.
I'm not saying I definitely think it was Olly (for one thing, I doubt Contra considers him a 'prominent figure in Leftist politics'), but it's a possibility worth considering at least.
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Here's the summary of podcast content. This is a lot of talking from Nyk to Matt. My comments are in parentheses :
- Matt promotes his Patreon for his followers to give their hard-earned dollary-doos so he can make his podcast.
- (Note: Matt Bernstein lives in Greenwich Village/West Village, NYC, which has the most expensive housing outside Billionaire's Row in NYC. Matt's net worth is at least $1.5 million).
- Matt promotes his op-ed about American Conservatives only recently discovering Sydney Sweeney because she has nice tits, and not for her acting career.
- Re-Introduces Nyk to the audience, Matt gushes and fans over Nyk's BreadTube work.
- Nyk is "honored to be a friend of the show".
- This week's topic: J.K. Rowling's transphobic Xeets and her Holocaust Denial (hahaha holy shit).
- Nyk addresses the legacy of Rowling: A beloved children's author while simultaneously being a bigot daily on Xitter for years.
- Nyk finds Rowling's (perceived) insanity spiral as morbidly fascinating.
- Matt and Nyk compare Rowling to a transphobic Facebook boomer.
- Nyk notes that Rowling's bigotry is entirely exclusive to trans individuals, and, curiously, doesn't extend to other facets of life - at least publicly.
- Nyk reads select Xeets from Rowling documenting her transphobia.
- Nyk gives background context regarding each of Rowling's transphobic Xeets, starting with British consultant Maya Forstater.
- Nyk suggests an outsider's perspective: perhaps Rowling is a free-speech absolutist.
- Nyk Dismisses this from the perspective of being a trans person, Nyk knew that this wasn't the case.
- Matt suggests that Rowling is using plausible deniability to mask transphobia.
- Nyk backs this perspective up. On its surface, Rowling is simply supporting the fact that sex is real.
- Nyk says the "It's so over" line (I chuckled).
- Nyk has been terminally obsessed with Rowling by constantly looking at Rowling's Xitter.
- Nyk continues to read off Rowling's Xeets about transphobia (man this is getting old quickly).
- Nyk addresses the use of "inclusive language" such as "people who can get pregnant", "people who menstruate", "uterus-havers", etc.
- Does admit that it's very awkward and weird in casual conversation, but also says that this language has been exclusively used in medical contexts.
- Nyk says that trans men don't need to live their lives according to the whims of cis lesbians.
- Matt says he has to be careful about talking about feminity and womanhood since he's a male
- But then protests that "the word 'woman'" isn't going anywhere
- Nyk comes back to address "uterus-havers" from a different angle
- Nyk notes that Rowling hasn't objected to Roe v. Wade being overturned in the United States
- Matt and Nyk (both terminally online) notice that Rowling is also terminally online (to be fair, Rowling is terminally online)
- Highlights Rowling sperging to 100-follower Xitter accounts
- In Matt's perspective: Rowling could be doing anything more productive like writing new books
- Nyk states the obvious: money doesn't bring happiness, online platforms are very addictive, etc
- Matt and Nyk talk about being criticized online, taking Ls, and how those events made them better critics and reviewers
- Matt talks about Ana Kasparian, and how she fell into the transphobic language-semantics trap
- Nyk agrees with Ana and her disgust with "birthing persons" language
- But, Nyk questions the scenario and context in which Ana made such statements. "Who called her a birthing person? In what context?"
- Nyk analyzes Gender Critical Feminists and their headspace, and how it is easy to dunk on transgender individuals because they're still an oppressed group
- Nyk talks about how civil rights movements have always had a violent component to them
- In the UK, churches were firebombed in the name of women's suffrage
- In the US, Eisenhower had to guard black children using National Guard troops to enforce Brown V. Board of Education
- They finally get to the Holocaust Denial part (it's boring semantics so I'll skip to the point they were trying to make)
- Rowling's refutation is effectively a non-point that wasn't made from the Xeet she replied to - that the Nazis burned Transgender research and medical texts
- Matt notes that refusing to take the L makes people cope and move goalposts
- Matt suddenly pivots to the TikTok algorithm and how algorithms work - suggestion of new content based upon what you watched previously and what others also watched after
- More sperging about the meanings and semantics of language
- Nyk sees parallels between transphobia of the 2020s in the same light as homophobia of the 2000s
- Back and forth discussion on unisex bathrooms, equal rights talk
- (holy crap these two are just yapping and yapping aghhhh)
- (I skipped a lot because it was hot air, moving on)
- Matt and Nyk talk about how many TERFs and conservatives view Rowling as a paragon for their views against transgenders
- They play the clip of Putin defending Rowling
- They bring up Rowling's campaign against a hate crime law in UK parliament
- Where does this lead? Dark places, damaging places
- But the Rowling Brainworms are very funny according to Matt
- Sperging about fictional characters and alien's gender identity
That was a lot of rambling to listen to, oh goodness. I'm going to play some fun video games now, with alcohol and boobies and magic (Baldur's Gate 3)
I hope that covers everything discussed. Please feel free to expand on this post, there's a lot of content to go over.
Minimizing victimization because a particular group identity wasn't the "focus" of a state-sponsored genocide is the "why" Matt and Nyk are critical of Rowling.
While it may be accurate to say that "Trannies weren't gassed, trannies didn't exist as a category!", it doesn't minimize the fact that Transsexuals were still targeted along with other victims such as Poles, Soviet POWs, Romani Gypsies, German homosexuals (including card-carrying members of the Nazi Party), and other "sexual deviants and asocial people" that Hitler and Reinhardt declared as "undesirable".
I am not a historian nor a specialist on Holocaust history, so I will leave my comments there, rather than trying to debate the full context of Nyk's, Matt's, and Rowling's views on the Holocaust on an internet drama forum. Not a can of worms I want to open.
Lol what if it's Vaush
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The only time it has been used in medical contexts is in these "sex contextualism" papers that are written by troons. As for them saying "no one is calling you a birthing person" that's gaslighting. Harvard called black women "birthing bodies." The Vagina Museum did it. Yet in every context of them saying changing language is a good thing, no such language change is used for men.
Figured I'd add these comments.
Did you know you can change your sex on hormones?
"Stop using gendered language for women. It's weird!"
"No one is going to call you a birthing person."
Shanequa insists she's read all the medical literature:
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"A trans man with a cervix needs cervical screen. This has to be communicated or people die"Figured I'd add these comments.
I don't believe this narrative that as soon as they start identifying as male or a special gender, pooners become incapable of guessing that an invitation from the gynecologist telling women over the age of 25 to get a cervical cancer screening would concern them as well. Granted, some (many) troons are dumb as bricks, so the risk probably isn't zero, but for the most TiFs are just going to pout because the invitation didn't affirm their gender feels and then go to the gynecologist anyway.
On the other hand, expressions like "vagina-havers" and "people with a cervix" are going to be inclusive of pooners, but it excludes/alienates a much larger group of women.
To begin with, it's going to cause confusion for some normie women who aren't up to date with the latest troon lingo. It's probably possible to guess the meaning of some of these expressions without prior exposure to gender woo woo, but others like AFAB are more vague.
Then there's a large group of women who do understand the meaning of such expressions, but object to being referred to as "birthing bodies" or "uterus havers". If you're aiming to be "inclusive" then insulting a large part of your target audience/group isn't a great way to go about it.
On top of it all, in a large number of Western countries, there's a growing number of immigrant women (immigrants in general, but the women are more relevant to this subject) who have a poor grasp of the main language of the country they live in. These women are far more likely to understand the meaning of the word "woman" than "bodies that breed" or "cervix havers". In fact, in a lot of cases they haven't received any proper education about female biology and/or sex education, so they might not even know that they have a cervix or a uterus. (Ironically TRAs are typically supportive of lax immigration/multiculturalism policies and often think it's literal nazism to expect immigrants to adapt or learn the local language, yet when it comes to abstract troon lingo foreigners are just assumed/expected to automatically understand it)
If a medical professional has the choice between a) using confusing "inclusive" language created to affirm the feelings of a small group of narcissists and b) actually understandable and inclusive language created to reach as many people as possible in a certain group then that person should always go with b), and b) involves the use of the words "woman" and "female" – not "birthing bodies" or any other ridiculous euphemism troons have come up with
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You'd hope so, and in any kind of reasonable world that would be true. But this is the same world in which MtFs complain about having periods and shove tampons up their ass. Reality takes a back seat to the fantasy.
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Mobydickgirl, obese Troon who lives in a mountain of filth (literally, he lives with garbage and got mad at his female landlord to clean it up) clears the air on Hontra and Choob. Archive.
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If Contra makes an exposed video on PhilosophyTroon, I will start using his preferred pronouns. They're all disgusting champagne socialists but Ollie is constantly trying to pretend like he's working class despite being, rich, famous and as out of touch as all the other people those labels apply to.