Naruto/Boruto Griefing Thread

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Another month goes by, another Boruto chapter. This one isn't necessarily as stupid as the others. But it does have some noticeably terrible art.

The awfulness starts right on the first page with Eida spying on Boruto and Mitsuki's fight. Boruto says he's Mitsuki's sun. Eida's reaction is I shit you not:

"Stop it. That's like too cool....Oh my gosh".

I don't know if this is a quirk of the translation but several of Eida's lines come out like this and I don't remember her ever being like this.

Next, Kawaki flies away with Delta to go after Boruto and wait a minute...When the fuck can Kawaki can fly? He couldn't fly before. I don't think Jigen could fly. He kind of hovered but never did straight up Dragonball style flying. Did Ohnoki teach him? I thought flying was a special technique. Boruto can't fly. He sort of hovers in his fight with Mitsuki but at least we've long since sailed ship on anything Boruto does making sense. Plus Delta is an android and could always fly. But where the fuck did he learn that?

Anyway...Boruto is filling Shikamaru in on the plot but Kawaki tells Shikamaru telepathically (WITHOUT A SENSORY NINJA MIND YOU) that he's going after Boruto. Geez..Shikamaru is literally playing telephone with his mind. Boruto teleports away and Kawaki wonders why he suddenly vanished after he talked to Shikamaru. A funny thing here is Shikamaru tries to tell him to wait for backup because he's not strong enough to take on Boruto. Kek.

Back at Eida's house, Mitsuki arrives and says "Apologies, I didn't realize you were here...I hope I'm not intruding". Nigga it's THEIR house. Anyway, Mitsuki and Eida have actual character development for a few pages. He explains how being an artificial human, he didn't think he'd ever experience an emotion like love, but he does thanks to Eida's powers. He doesn't feel like a human so he thought he could just cling to his sun or person with the brightest personality and didn't need anything else. However, Kawaki is kind of a dick and he's been questioning his devotion to him for a long time and has just been in denial. He thinks Eida is the same way. To which Eida says "We're talking about love right now...talk about dramatic"....yeah I don't know whats going on with the translation either. Kind of a downer on an otherwise decent moment if this is the official translation. Eida says she wants to talk to Boruto.

Divine Trees invade Konoha, the Sasuke one and the one Jigen looking one. They're looking for Naruto and skewer a bunch of random s before getting attacked by Kawaki. For the 6th time out of 8 chapters, meaning every single one he's been in, Kawaki gets bitch slapped and looks absolutely fucking pathetic. We get a panel of everyone rushing to the Divine Tree's location. We also get what's probably my favorite bad artwork in the entire series, a full panel of Sumire and Sarada doing the Naruto-Run in their giant pump heels. I legit burst out laughing at this. The Naruto run is already ridiculous enough but watching these girls do it in hooker heels is next level of retarded. Either way, the new Team 10 shows up with Himawari and the Divine Trees arrive in front of her, confused. They were tracking Naruto through tailed beast chakra and somehow it lead them to...Himawari. Which sort of makes sense? Idk we'll see where it goes to end the chapter.

There was some noticeably bad art this time around. Here's a few instances I noticed:

  • Kawaki has a fucking BELT on his collar for no reason
  • There's a panel of showing Eida from behind and for whatever reason I can't fathom, her ass is showing through her shorts.
  • There's surprising emphasis on Boruto's fade for some reason. I don't like it. It makes him look like a zoomer.
  • When the Divine Trees show up, the Jigen-looking one has a back stabilizing toe, but only on one foot. I thought this was on model until a spread shot a couple pages later, it just wasn't there for the past 3-4 pages.
  • Sarada looks like a 40 year old man in one panel because her face looks flat.
  • The running shot in pump heels.
  • While Shikadai is running, I noticed his boots also have high heels. Why? Was it just a habit of drawing high heels?
  • Delta flies with no jet flames coming out of her feet?
Honestly I don't know what I was expecting. There's a lot of odd quirks and awkward moments this chapter. Worse than I thought it'd be. I just want to take a chance to stress how awful Kawaki is. He's gone from one of the best parts of Boruto to one of the worst. He treats everyone around him like garbage, which I could get behind if he were intimidating, but he's not. He's a pathetic villain who has gotten slapped around physically, or metaphorically almost every chapter since the time-skip. Am I supposed to take this guy seriously or not?
 
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I don't want this to devolve to into a shipping war, but I wish the series ended with episode 479 and whether Naruto ended up with Sakura or Hinata was left ambiguous. Maybe it's just me but Naruto and Sakura ending up together makes more sense than Sasuke. Sasuke was hostilely indifferent towards Sakura at best and straight up tried to murder her at worst. He didn't even acknowledge her until the very end. At least Sakura had had actual moments of bonding with Naruto throughout the series.

As for Hinata, her ending up with Naruto would've made more sense if he actually acknowledged her more in the series. The writers had a golden moment to do this during the Pain battle but they fudged it and Hinata risking her life for Naruto was left unacknowledged while Naruto got a hug from Sakura (hugging is a lot more intimate in Japan). It doesn't make sense Naruto never even thanked her for it for majority of the series, and then in The Last he suddenly realizes that he's always loved Hinata or something like that. That's not how relationships even work wth.

Overall, I think they should've left the "who Naruto ends up with" topic ambiguous.
 
I don't want this to devolve to into a shipping war, but I wish the series ended with episode 479 and whether Naruto ended up with Sakura or Hinata was left ambiguous. Maybe it's just me but Naruto and Sakura ending up together makes more sense than Sasuke. Sasuke was hostilely indifferent towards Sakura at best and straight up tried to murder her at worst. He didn't even acknowledge her until the very end. At least Sakura had had actual moments of bonding with Naruto throughout the series
It certainly doesn't help that the anime staff sure as fuck thought Sakura and Naruto would end up together. You can tell in all those openings and endings. The filler certainly didn't help either. I mean sure Hinata gets all of 1 episode but Sakura and Naruto just as a duo get dozens. Then when Kushina is introduced, we have her famous line of "find someone like me" and she's very clearly modeled more like Sakura than Hinata. The whole Road to Ninja movie didn't help any of this. Sure there were no romantic moments in it, but Sakura very clearly understood Naruto better than anyone by the end.

By comparison the only thing of substance Hinata gets is the Chuunin Exams, the hand holding thing, and the Pain arc. The Last is even more awkward since they have the chance to do actual romance and just don't. It's not like Kishimoto can't write romance. It's almost enough to make me think Sakura and Sasuke worked out solely so we could have Sarada in Boruto....
 
It certainly doesn't help that the anime staff sure as fuck thought Sakura and Naruto would end up together. You can tell in all those openings and endings. The filler certainly didn't help either. I mean sure Hinata gets all of 1 episode but Sakura and Naruto just as a duo get dozens. Then when Kushina is introduced, we have her famous line of "find someone like me" and she's very clearly modeled more like Sakura than Hinata. The whole Road to Ninja movie didn't help any of this. Sure there were no romantic moments in it, but Sakura very clearly understood Naruto better than anyone by the end.

By comparison the only thing of substance Hinata gets is the Chuunin Exams, the hand holding thing, and the Pain arc. The Last is even more awkward since they have the chance to do actual romance and just don't. It's not like Kishimoto can't write romance. It's almost enough to make me think Sakura and Sasuke worked out solely so we could have Sarada in Boruto....
I think one of the reasons NaruSaku ship sank was because of... well stuff like this
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It certainly doesn't help that the anime staff sure as fuck thought Sakura and Naruto would end up together. You can tell in all those openings and endings. The filler certainly didn't help either. I mean sure Hinata gets all of 1 episode but Sakura and Naruto just as a duo get dozens. Then when Kushina is introduced, we have her famous line of "find someone like me" and she's very clearly modeled more like Sakura than Hinata. The whole Road to Ninja movie didn't help any of this. Sure there were no romantic moments in it, but Sakura very clearly understood Naruto better than anyone by the end.

By comparison the only thing of substance Hinata gets is the Chuunin Exams, the hand holding thing, and the Pain arc. The Last is even more awkward since they have the chance to do actual romance and just don't. It's not like Kishimoto can't write romance. It's almost enough to make me think Sakura and Sasuke worked out solely so we could have Sarada in Boruto....
People say "but their relationship wouldn't make sense" but Sakura and Sasuke's relationship makes even less sense. Her interest in him stems from a childhood crush that started devolving into some weird stockholm syndrome thing. That fake confession scene is pointed out as the one that killed the ship but even in that, what Sakura said was true even if she didn't mean any of it. Why choose an international terrorist who tried to kill you twice on the same day over a guy who saved your ass more times than you can count?
 
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Maybe it's just me but Naruto and Sakura ending up together makes more sense than Sasuke.
It's another influence from Harry Potter which Kishimoto was obviously a massive fan of. The main male and female characters in that story do not marry each other despite practically everyone thinking it was inevitable. The main male character marries a shy female dweeb. And the main female marries the second lead male protagonist.
 
People say "but their relationship wouldn't make sense" but Sakura and Sasuke's relationship makes even less sense. Her interest in him stems from a childhood crush that started devolving into some weird stockholm syndrome thing. That fake confession scene is pointed out as the one that killed the ship but even in that, what Sakura said was true even if she didn't mean any of it. Why choose an international terrorist who tried to kill you twice on the same day over a guy who saved your ass more times than you can count?
You can pretty much blame Kishimoto for that. And, who I suspect to be fangirls who gave him feedback. Also, his daughter (though this is just a rumor). I recalled that his words were (paraphrasing) that Sakura would be a terrible person for giving up on Sasuke.

I'm not kidding.
 
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It's another influence from Harry Potter which Kishimoto was obviously a massive fan of. The main male and female characters in that story do not marry each other despite practically everyone thinking it was inevitable. The main male character marries a shy female dweeb. And the main female marries the second lead male protagonist.
LMAO! I don't ever recall Ron wanting to kill his own brother and commit copious amounts of regicide because he's massive edgelord.
 
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It's another influence from Harry Potter which Kishimoto was obviously a massive fan of. The main male and female characters in that story do not marry each other despite practically everyone thinking it was inevitable. The main male character marries a shy female dweeb. And the main female marries the second lead male protagonist.
Haven't read the books in quite a while so I may be misremembering but at least in Harry Potter, the possibility of Harry and Hermione ending up together mainly existed in the first book whereas the subsequent books had Hermione growing closer to Ron than Harry. So at least it has that excuse. This is the exact opposite for Naruto. Part 1 may have had moments where Sasuke and Sakura being together would've been convincing (though even that's a stretch considering Sasuke never really reciprocated her feelings) but Shippuden was entirely Naruto and Sakura getting to know each other better than anyone else while Sasuke just descended further into being a murderous sociopath.
You can pretty much blame Kishimoto for that. And, who I suspect to be fangirls who gave him feedback. Also, his daughter (though this is just a rumor). I recalled that his words were (paraphrasing) that Sakura would be a terrible person for giving up on Sasuke.

I'm not kidding.
I can understand Naruto not giving up on Sasuke since they shared a similar childhood of being orphans who felt outcast by the rest of the village. But they could've at least given Sakura a better explanation for not giving up on Sasuke other than a childhood crush.
 
I think one of the reasons NaruSaku ship sank was because of... well stuff like this
Except comedy anime like Urusei Yatsura, Zero no Tsukaima and the like have conditioned us to expect slapstick abuse like this to be healthy signs of romance. People who preferred NaruHina did so because it was against the most obvious expectation, her arc in the Chunin Exams was great, her love confession in Pain Invasion was an amazing moment, and - most importantly - her lack of Sakura's constant scenes of being useless or worse over the course of Part 1 and the Sasuke & Sai arc.

Then Kage Summit just made the main trio completely unsalvagable as characters and I honestly have no idea why there were any NaruSakus or even SasuSakus left after that when every rational observation would tell them that these three only bring out the worst in each other.
 
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Except comedy anime like Urusei Yatsura, Zero no Tsukaima and the like have conditioned us to expect slapstick abuse like this to be healthy signs of romance. People who preferred NaruHina did so because it was against the most obvious expectation, her arc in the Chunin Exams was great, her love confession in Pain Invasion was an amazing moment, and - most importantly - her lack of Sakura's constant scenes of being useless or worse over the course of Part 1 and the Sasuke & Sai arc. Then Kage Summit just made the main trio completely unsalvagable as characters and I honestly have no idea why there were any NaruSakus or even SasuSakus left after that.
I'm sorry, but I just can't get behind Hinata anymore. She's a nothing character. She's good in the Chuunin Exams and never shows up again for the majority of the series. She's there to get tossed around like a rag doll by Pain for 2 seconds and the anime felt the need to extend that for 20 minutes. But outside of that? She doesn't do fuck all. It also kind of takes away from that scene where Kushina says "find a girl like me" since Hinata is absolutely nothing like Kushina and is clearly modeled after Sakura and her personality.

I don't know, maybe I'm biased because I've seen post-ending material and Sakura comes off as genuinely competent. Meanwhile, Hinata is giving Tenten a running for the least number of speaking lines in the series. I mean she's IN plenty of scenes, but the entire time something will be playing out in front of her and she just does nothing. It's very bizarre. Kawaki and Naruto will be having an argument and Hinata will be just standing there awkwardly not saying anything. It's very jarring and I don't like it.
 
One repetitive plot device from Naruto that I find really annoying is him being compared literally every story relevant character in existence
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>Wow he's literally like Tsunade's brother
>Wow he's literally like Don
>Wow he's literally like Sasori
>Wow he's literally like Sai's brother
>Wow he's literally like Obito
>Wow he's literally like Hashirama
>Wow he's literally like the sage of six paths
Okay maybe the above example may not be the best one, since it's just a grandmother reminiscing. But this "Naruto, you're just like (insert person I know)" shit is really overdone.
 
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One repetitive plot device from Naruto that I find really annoying is him being compared literally every story relevant character in existence
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>Wow he's literally like Tsunade's brother
>Wow he's literally like Don
>Wow he's literally like Sasori
>Wow he's literally like Sai's brother
>Wow he's literally like Obito
>Wow he's literally like Hashirama
>Wow he's literally like the sage of six paths
Okay maybe the above example may not be the best one, since it's just a grandmother reminiscing. But this "Naruto, you're just like (insert person I know)" shit is really overdone.
it's a reoccurring thing that naruto is literally everyone
something about his ability to relate being his real super power or some other cheesy shit like that
 
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it's a reoccurring thing that naruto is literally everyone
something about his ability to relate being his real super power or some other cheesy shit like that
He's pretty much everyone's past best friend (who inexplicably look more or less like him) all rolled into one. It's just another one of Kishimoto's tired and overdone plot devices.
 
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Except comedy anime like Urusei Yatsura, Zero no Tsukaima and the like have conditioned us to expect slapstick abuse like this to be healthy signs of romance.
I dislike that argument because slapstick comedy is meant to be taken as exaggeration for the sake of comedy. The idea it supposedly represents irl romance is autistic.
 
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