Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[East_Clintwood]

Making notes on his phone is likely a sign he was just lazily scribbling any stupid thought that popped into his head between cooming over instathots, when he should have been doing serious, court-ordered work.

What do you mean? Making random notes on your phone is totally just as much taking part in the case as actually filing the motions ordered by the judge.

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

...does anyone just find Greer to be tiring?

Yes and no. I find it frustrating he can seemingly get away with ignoring a judges orders and continuing this lawsuit whose only purpose is to get null to take down his thread. I wish null had some kind of recourse to get back at Russ for wasting his time and money. However when Russ is producing milk it is some of the best on the site. His harebrained schemes to get fame, fortune and pussy always make me laugh. His songs are so bad they’re good and I’ve been waiting for years for the incel anthem to drop. Which if he ever releases it will be his best song yet. And I hope @The Great Citracett makes a video like he did for yo yovanna.

 

[geckogoy]

The course of this case is a pretty good justification for null's claims the justice system is broken

 

[mindlessobserver]

Lmao, he uses the same tools as Melinda Scott

You would think Russel, being a legal clerk, would be aware that.l most law libraries have their own access too WestLaw and other research tools that anyone can use. It may be inconvenient to drive to one, but to say he has no access is not true.

He's just lazy.

 

[Betonhaus]

You would think Russel, being a legal clerk, would be aware that.l most law libraries have their own access too WestLaw and other research tools that anyone can use. It may be inconvenient to drive to one, but to say he has no access is not true.

He's just lazy.

And really, really out of his depth

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Gee, retard, don't you think you should have brought up that point before the deadline to respond to Hardin's Motion to Change Venue, before the court got sick of you ghosting them yet again, and thusly washed their hands of you?

I'm personally a fan that he cited a out of circuit (6th) opinion for very specific issue, but didn't actually bother reading to see why it worked there, nor did he even try to allege the same facts (whether true or not). Peak Russ.

...does anyone just find Greer to be tiring?

If he tires you, read about some other cow.

My opinion is if it's open to the public to show up in person

Is it?

Interlocutory appeal time? Is the only possible hail Mary I can think of for him.

Fun fact, both 10th and 11th Circuit cases I cited forbid even this (and even mandamus for the 10th). See:

• "Also well-established is that an order transferring venue of an action, even if the transfer is to a district in another circuit, is an interlocutory order and unappealable, except by certification under 28 U.S.C. § 1292(b)." - In re Dalton, 733 F.2d 710 (10th Cir. 1984) (the exception is not applicable here for several reasons)
• "We also lack jurisdiction to the extent Harris seeks appellate review of the district court's text order denying her motion to transfer venue. That order is not final because it did not end the litigation on the merits, and it is not immediately appealable under the collateral order doctrine because it is not effectively unreviewable on appeal from a final judgment" - Harris v. Sec'y, U.S. Dep't of Veterans Affairs, No. 23-11628 (11th Cir. Jun. 9, 2023)

Regarding mandamus: "The possibility of an appeal from the final judgment in the transferee circuit, even with the difficult burden of demonstrating prejudice there, will preclude relief by writ [of mandamus]." The only exception to this the 10th circuit found was if you for some reason can't appeal a final judgement in the transferee court, or when such appeal could not "correct extraordinary hardship because of the particular circumstances." - In re Dalton, 733 F.2d 710 (10th Cir. 1984)

11th does not appear to have ruled on a mandamus issue in such circumstances.

He has softlocked himself out of the appeals process unless Florida courts use obscure Florida caselaw mentioned before to overrule the Utah court, or until his case is dismissed in Florida.

Also, Magistrate Judge got more assigned to him


Utah:

 

[RodgerDodger]

Greer would have to make a motion in Florida to stay pending the results of a 10th Circuit appeal.

Now, is there a funny here? There is. Greer is forbidden by the 10th Circuit to appeal this order, but he is also forbidden to appeal it in the 11th Circuit. His only recource is to use obscure Florida Supreme Court case law to beg the Florida District Court to reverse Utah's decision citing "extraordinary circumstances"

Sources:

• "Also well-established is that an order transferring venue of an action, even if the transfer is to a district in another circuit, is an interlocutory order and unappealable, except by certification under 28 U.S.C. § 1292(b)." - In re Dalton, 733 F.2d 710 (10th Cir. 1984) (the exception is not applicable here for several reasons)
• "We also lack jurisdiction to the extent Harris seeks appellate review of the district court's text order denying her motion to transfer venue. That order is not final because it did not end the litigation on the merits, and it is not immediately appealable under the collateral order doctrine because it is not effectively unreviewable on appeal from a final judgment" - Harris v. Sec'y, U.S. Dep't of Veterans Affairs, No. 23-11628 (11th Cir. Jun. 9, 2023)
• "Accordingly, we conclude that absent extraordinary circumstances, a trial judge's order granting a change of venue may not be reviewed by a successor trial judge in the new venue. Once such an order has been issued, it must be honored in the new venue unless and until a proper appellate court rules otherwise." - State v. Gary, 609 So. 2d 1291 (Fla. 1992)

Lmao, sucks to suck

So he can't appeal the transfer in the 10th, until the trial court in the 11th issues a final judgement? Is that right? And that seems problematic if correct?

 

[Harvey Danger]

I'm personally a fan that he cited a out of circuit (6th) opinion for very specific issue, but didn't actually bother reading to see why it worked there, nor did he even try to allege the same facts (whether true or not). Peak Russ.

Google Scholar suggested it, therefore it must be black letter law and the most relevant precedent ever. Are you questioning our tard-enabling robot overlords?

(Note that Hardin does cite 10th Circuit precedent that "the transferor court loses all jurisdiction over the case, including the power to review the transfer". What a hateful harasser.)

Utah:

I imagine Hardin sitting in his office face-palming, muttering "I can't believe I have to keep filing stuff in a moot venue". This is going to be one of those stories he tells over drinks in the future.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I can't believe Russel is still filing in Utah. Man is denser then a brick.

 

[waffle]

Google scholar is actually pretty good, but only.if you understand how to shepherdise with it.

I'm sure Russ doesn't.

-EDIT- I can really only speak for my jurisdiction, because it's going to matter how fast the decisions get put up there.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

So he can't appeal the transfer in the 10th, until the trial court in the 11th issues a final judgement?

I don't think he can appeal in the 10th period. The weird (technically normal, but weird in this scenario)wording, suggests that the appeal would have to be in the 11th, and ask it to not only review the final judgement in Florida District court, but the motion that gave rise to the possibility of the final judgment.

And that seems problematic if correct?

I certainly wouldn't want to be in his position. If I wanted to count authoritative caselaw on this for Russ, there's 1 in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, and 1 in the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals. This is more or less an obscure issue. Literally all he can do now, as far as I am able to tell, is beg Florida courts to overturn Utah decision citing an obscure Florida Supreme Court case and "extraordinary circumstances". The only other avenue he could try is a Writ of Mandamus to the 11th, who has not yet ruled on the issue on whether they can accept the writ in this circumstance, but I'd argue that something like Rohe v. Wells Fargo Bank , 988 F.3d 1256 (11th Cir. 2021) still bars him because he has other avenues to attain relief he wants, namely Florida District Court (and later even an appeal in the 11th)

(Note that Hardin does cite 10th Circuit precedent that "the transferor court loses all jurisdiction over the case, including the power to review the transfer". What a hateful harasser.)

Which puts a bullet in a rather decent argument Greer could have raised if he bothered to read the case he cited.

 

[Betonhaus]

I honestly wonder if Greer ever gets an inkling that if she wasn't such a fucking idiot all the time he wouldn't end up in these situations.

 

[Harm]

Bankrupting Null was his intention as far back as 2022. (Archive)
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He probably thought he was being terribly clever by using Josh's willingness to fight against him. Until the community rallied around our slobberdoggo.

As opposed to all the other human beings in Russell's life who DON'T have feelings! He has feelings, him! Aren't his feelings YOUR problem?

 

[Not At All A Lizard]

Nice once again from Hardin. Short, strong, and to the point. Presumably someone at the Utah court has to at least read the drivel since it's filed there, I'm sure they appreciate it.

 

[The Great Citracett]

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As opposed to all the other human beings in Russell's life who DON'T have feelings! He has feelings, him! Aren't his feelings YOUR problem?

Life as we know it is a movie in which Russell is the main character. We're all just NPCs. Extras. But for some reason we all keep going off script and it's driving him nuts.

He just copes by continuing to insist he's the hero in an underdog story and every obstacle is the totally for real last one before his eventual and inevitable placement at the top of the Hollywood A-list for permanent fame and fortune. Not through earning it by working hard or having talent, but because he's Russ, and he's the underdog. And everyone loves an underdog story.

 

[DHugo]

Also, Magistrate Judge got more assigned to him

Idk what is up with this font but I keep reading it as (jew). The letter 'c' should be less curvy (like the font this site uses)

 

[Betonhaus]

Not through earning it by working hard or having talent, but because he's Russ, and he's the underdog. And everyone loves an underdog story.

Underdog stories usually involve someone who actually worked hard. The moment he's waiting for is closer to a producer in Hollywood grabbing someone random off the street because he looks like he'll fit the role.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Underdog stories usually involve someone who actually worked hard. The moment he's waiting for is closer to a producer in Hollywood grabbing someone random off the street because he looks like he'll fit the role.

We do have to credit Russ. He is one of the hardest working cows on the farms. His work may not be productive, but he's not lazy. Just stupid.

 

[Niall Meanwhile]

So basically Hardin is no longer required to reply to anything at all in Utah court, but nonetheless continues to do so just to get "see, this man is incompetent and deranged and a waste of everyone's time" on the record for shits and giggles. Am I getting this right?

(Sorry if I don't. My only knowledge of US courts comes from Meloni-era SVU and Rusty's thread itself.)

Also, something called "Spudnuts Inc" cited as a defendant somewhere in there made me laugh more than it should.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Life as we know it is a movie in which Russell is the main character. We're all just NPCs. Extras. But for some reason we all keep going off script and it's driving him nuts.

He just copes by continuing to insist he's the hero in an underdog story and every obstacle is the totally for real last one before his eventual and inevitable placement at the top of the Hollywood A-list for permanent fame and fortune. Not through earning it by working hard or having talent, but because he's Russ, and he's the underdog. And everyone loves an underdog story.

This is why Russ is my favorite lolcow. It is truly fascinating to watch him go around being a litigious creepy stalker all while his brain is desperately trying to convince his ego that he’s in some sort of inspiring Hallmark movie. My favorite scenes in Hallmark movies are, of course, the hooker banging scenes.

In his mind, the music he writes are the uplifting themes to his life. In actuality, every song documents an unhealthy fanatical obsession with the latest famous woman he’s enamored with.

It’s like he’s an alien who’s entire concept of human interaction comes from pop music and romcoms. And lawsuits are his way of “lodging a complaint with the manager” whenever anybody goes off-script.