It's been quite a while since I've played it, aside from the elephant in the room (Vivian), what else would Wokeists be targeting?
That's a common sentiment but I don't see how it's true. A non-gamer probably wouldn't even be able to distinguish between Street Fighter and Smash Ultimate at a glance if you selected a 1v1 with Ryu & Ken at a Street Fighter stage. Maybe even an old school gamer who's been out of gaming for a long time would need to pay attention for a minute.
Aside from the gallows within the town square, there's hardly anything else that'll logically piss them off. But maybe they'll find something to whine about in the pirate arc, or just whine about Mario being abandoned because of that ghost.
So glad they didnt go with the "Everything is made of paper!" thing from the latter entries. It's cute at first, but it's a huge downgrade over what came before
It was cute for an hour. Then they did it constantly for three consecutive games (four if you count Paper Jam).
I am a bit more the opposite. Growing up with the DS, the remakes on there were great as they felt like new games while retaining much of the original. Super Mario 64 DS and Kirby Super Star Ultra are top entries of their respective franchises with additions that make them distinct to warrant being remade. I wish more remakes took risks like them. I have personally always wanted a Mario Sunshine remake given the 64 DS treatment. Give me Sunshine with playable Luigi and Wario, maybe even Waluigi. Go wild on adding stuff as the game could use some more content.
Do we know if they've kept the Princess Peach shower scene in the remake? If not, that might also be a target.
Oh yeah, that. I bet that'll be altered because you wouldn't want to slightly objectify a piece of paper.
Yeah, but at least Paper Jam at least did something with the cardboard joke. Of course, it wasn't funny, to begin with.
None of what you said justifies the reason why Smash counts as a fighting game. You want an actual fighting game? Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tekken, Dead or Alive, Soulcalibur, Killer Instinct, King of Fighters, Fatal Fury, Darkstalkers, even most of WWE or UFC video games are fighting games. There's a whole meaning of fighting game, and for Smash, this ain't it chief
What makes WWE a fighting game but not SSB? What are the differentiating factors?
SSB was designed more like a party game first rather than a fighter, kinda how like Mario Kart is more of a party game than a serious racer. People didn't start to take SSB as a "serious" fighter until Melee when autists were finding glitches (wavedashing) and setting up tournaments, which pissed off Sakurai. It's why he purposefully added slipping in Brawl just to spite them.
Wavedashing is much like combos were for SF2, something not necessarily intended but left in purposefully, so it's hard to categorize it as just a glitch.
It does when the game is made with items and stage hazzsrds in mind. The fact that the playerbase turned off items and bans all stages that aren’t flat and hazzardless proves this.
That would be the most accurate description of what Smash is. Of which there are many others that it might well be it’s own genre.
Its a fighting game because default matches consist of two characters fighting one another for times of around five minutes with the winner being whoever can kill the other character more. People who refuse to call it a fighting game (or Mario Kart a racing game) are doing so just out of spite because they find the fans obnoxious.
Smash is a fighting game but not exactly the same fighting game as the ones I've mentioned as it's more of a party game than a complete fighting game.
This is generally my perspective. Which is to say that even a good remake is still hollow. I'd rather they make good, new games whether the game is a one-off or a part of a larger franchise.
Minor detail to add: Mario Kart is an "arcade" racer as opposed to a "simulation" racer. I am not sure that fighting games really have an analogue to this. Maybe casual and hardcore?
DMC and Bayonetta are "Spectacle Fighters". I kinda like that one. It is accurate.
There's no rule that those can't be included in a fighting game, not everything needs to be a strict SF2 clone to qualify as a fighting game. They're also optional for a good reason.
I think so too. Kind of like how kart racers are a subgenre of racers. They're still racing games but they handle it a little differently.
True, but WWE and UFC are not exactly the same fighting games as the ones you mentioned either. There's even a significant distinction between 2D & 3D fighters. I'd say Smash has more in common with Street Fighter than WWE does, and arguably more than Soulcalibur (Smash has more of a focus on combos than Soulcalibur does and is 2D like SF).
