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I Love Beef said:
Moe stuff is created by female creators, and while there always has been female fans with anime and manga in Japan, it just got more prevalent when the 2000s came around
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I'd disagree with this part. Female creators were huge early on and the female audience was a real focus for a lot of stuff. However, by the 2000s shoujo was already slowly dying and nowadays events like comiket are 90% waifu vtuber and gacha, female creators avoid it.
 
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Trollblade69 said:
Is it better or worse than aniwave.to?
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It's literally zoro.to getting it's 2nd rebranding after being Aniwatch. Nowadays, the pop-up ads after opening the site could be really annoying, as in unusable tier annoying cause singular taps lead to ads. But past that, it's fine. Right now Aniwave has it too, which I honestly recommend more.
 
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No, he's stealing hard from the Naruto playbook without realizing what he's stealing is all the stuff I wished he wouldn't do but apparently is both easy and hyper-popular with the Japs who couldn't understand taste if it wiped out their entire nation.

Should probably list my issues in the Naruto thread.
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I am mainly saying Star Wars given Shigaraki is basically set up to just have the same story arc as Darth Vader and Kylo Ren from the Sequel Trilogy.
 
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melty said:
Its kind of crazy how the cultural tide has turned, not even a decade ago it was kind of silly and shameful to love Japanese media but now its openly heralded for its creativity and innovation and celebrated as a new kind of media altogether that the best artists praise. The death of Toriyama and the success of Boy and the Heron this year kind of sealed the deal and showed how worldwide the love for Japanese media is. Its amazing how these elderly Japanese men are able to create amazing content loved by so many people worldwide even into their 90s. That in all of what Western media produces in 2024 nothing matches the quality or reach of the output of a small amount of elderly Japanese men.
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Anime is EVERYWHERE nowadays. McDonald's used it in a promotion and now Ikea is as well. It seems McDonald's is going to just use their Japanese promotions internationally now since they're trialing a Japanese Hello Kitty/Yu-Gi-Oh toy in Belgium. Some would say this is a sign of societal decay (porn addiction is getting more widespread which leads people to hentai and then to anime to normalize their fetishes; the elites are pushing a "Japanese" kawaii monoculture to normalize pedophilia). I'm inclined to agree with that in many respects (look at the success of One Piece among normies, or how beloved and successful Gushing over Magical Girls is in the anime community), and I fear that this will just cause Western media to become even more degenerate because they'll be forced to compete with anime, and we won't be able to do anything about it. This is already happening with K-Dramas, and it's already happened with certain Western shows like whatever that faggot Sam Levinson has worked on. Like it or not, the only anti-degeneracy crusaders that anybody listens to are right-wing Gamergater types, so when they inevitably rage about any future degeneracy in Western media, nobody will listen because they've set the precedent of getting explosively mad over harmless stuff like the Barbie movie and black Disney princesses. Aside from degeneracy, anime may seem like a fresh, exciting world of media, but after a while it becomes very apparent that most anime either relies on the same 15 tropes/character types or cringeworthy pseudointellectualism -- yet at the same time it remains popular and fresh in people's eyes because of the different types of degeneracy it has. Anime that doesn't do this (basically all the stuff I sperg about) will probably always remain niche because people will either scoff at it as "lol kids' show" or get filtered by how dense these shows can get -- the only exception will probably be some 80s/90s OVAs which people will watch for the animation alone, but then again, more than enough people are happy with modern shounen-style "sakuga".


WelperHelper99 said:
I won't say anime is "normal" yet. It honestly never will be- and shouldn't be. I want it to still be special. I want to still shovel through a sketchy pirate site and find a old series that literally no one has a license for. Western media can barely come close to the shit I had to go through to watch all of the Nasuverse anime.
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Ehh, "mature" anime that are on Crunchyroll/Netflix like Frieren/Vinland Saga/Cowboy Bebop/Jiujitsu Kaisen are definitely normal, but there will probably always be plenty that aren't normal, and there will be plenty of series that never get licensed for one reason or another -- Tytania will probably never get licensed because it's a slap in the face to LOGH, MD Geist won't get relicensed because the localizer clique hates it, Vifam won't get licensed due to its creator's autism, Betterman has a weird issue with its masters, and I wouldn't be surprised if L-Gaim is subject to Naganotism. Even lots of Gundam is in a weird situation, since I don't think Turn A, Victory, CCA, and G-Reco are on any streaming services. Maybe Brain Powerd will get licensed if Kenny Lauderdale makes a video on it, lol.

Mississippi Motorboater said:
It's why relatively newer anime fans ended up flocking older titles from the 80s and early 90s, because the Japanese economy was in a place where you could creatively experiment with bleeding-edge animated OVAs and movies, and a wealth of storytelling genres that seem all but dead now, like cyberpunk, space opera, non-isekai high fantasy, all variations of mecha, variations of horror, and a whole host of other genres you'd be forgiven for thinking never existed in anime with all the cookie-cutter isekai and high school shows coming out now. This is not to say that industry trends didn't creatively inhibit anime shows of that time (the sheer amount of disposable mecha shows just to sell toys in that era is a prime example), but at least there was wiggle room for other genres to thrive. Hell, I only got into anime in the last five years or so, and one of the reasons I booked it to old-school anime titles is because there was also a greater variety of art styles.
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That's what happened to me, and I mainly think it's because I was always more interested in space stuff and Transformers, so I went to that era because it had the best kind of that stuff. Even the mecha anime of that era which may seem toyetic can tell very engaging stories -- just look at Goldran, Dancouga, Dendoh, or Baldios; they're one of a kind and difficult to tropify. The "it has to be mecha to sell toys" restriction also fostered a lot of creativity, such as Gundam's realistic military mecha, Dunbine's biological machines, or GaoGaiGar's hyper-realism. I honestly feel sad for people who swear off anime based on what they see in seasonals and common weeb recommendations because they're really missing out on some of the best television writing out there, and they'll never consider it because they'll think it's just squeaky little girls with grey alien eyes being preyed on by perverted high school boys.
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And can I just say, as completely new viewer to Tenchi, I absolutely adore this series. I swore up and down for years that I would never suffer through a harem anime, but the nice thing about the Tenchi OVAs is that they break almost all the conventions of modern harem shows. The main protagonist is surrounded by girls, but he's only romantically pursued by two of them. He's not a hopeless, romantically-deficient loser who can't get with any of them--he's just trying to get his chores done, and is not only completely uninterested in the girls' romantic advances, but is often actively annoyed and exasperated by them. Couple that with the fact that the show repeatedly shifts gears from cozy shrine shenanigans to full-on space opera battles and royal family feuds, and it also avoids the problem of most modern harems being boring, static high school shit. I wasn't bored even once when watching this show, because the amount of fun that the animators are clearly having with it is borderline infectious. You can tell that they were having a ball drawing these characters, having them engage in lightsaber duels or get into catfights in a hot spring---even a scene like Washu giving exposition is coupled by Ryoko and Ayeka throwing wads of paper and books at each other. Half the comedy, is just in how hyper-expressive and dynamic these characters are during skits. The other half is the superb English dub. I'll probably never watch this show, or Tenchi Universe, or any of the movies in Japanese, because that would mean losing the sleazy, domineering sass of Ryoko's English voice, or Ayeka's pseudo-British "ladylike" pouting and manic psycho laugh. It's one of the reasons I'm kind of a fence-sitter in that legendary "Team Ryoko or Team Ayeka" debate that's permeated anime fan circles since the 90s, because I love both of these characters way too much to decide. They really are anime's definitive answer to Archie's Betty and Veronica, and the VAs are largely the reason why they've endeared such a loving cult status in the West.
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Tenchi Muyo doesn't fall into the traps of harem anime because it was inspired by American sitcoms. It wasn't meant to be softcore porn and a power fantasy for losers; it was meant to be comedy in a sci-fi setting ever since it was envisioned as Bubblegum Crisis gaiden. I also love the English dub, and they clearly put effort into making a unique space universe -- something that's especially interesting to me. I haven't seen the original OVAs, and have no plans to, but the Negishiverse anime are really quite special, especially the first movie where they time-travel to rescue Tenchi's mom.
I Love Beef said:
For me, Tenchi Muyo wins out, but Saber Marionette J is still special to me and is something worth checking out. The original light novellas really are also something that shines a light on today's world too.
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Is there any place to read the Saber Marionette novels? I have a bunch of English Tenchi novels downloaded, including the three which got official translations as well as the GXP novels, the War on Geminar novels, and the novels for the more recent OVAs.
 
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Sailor Troon said:
porn addiction is getting more widespread which leads people to hentai and then to anime to normalize their fetishes; the elites are pushing a "Japanese" kawaii monoculture to normalize pedophilia
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Okay, I'm sure that I'm breaking the single most prevalent rule that is on the title of this thread (and probably already did, sorry), but um

what

I also think porn addiction is a serious problem, but I also have found that the United States and some West European nations have problems with knowing what is reality over fantasy and have extremely poor campaigns for mental health and promoting imaginative cognitive faculties, like what the Department of Education is doing by prioritizing test scores and grades over if kids are actually learning shit to be productive citizens. You may laugh because Japan has high rates of suicide, but out here in America, if I recall, most reprehensible people out here are extremely materialistic and only care if they see immediate results. This means anything they can get their hands on appeases their inhumane carnal desires of conquest and ensuring the people are under their thumb. Go look up the story of the man who served under Richard Epstein and leaked out his story on 4chan. I also don't want to poke this potential shitshow to boot but associating moeshit with pedophilia is strictly an American and European thing. If any of you did your research, any prevalent author and artist in moe has always been female. It's not my fault NBC promoted To Be A Predator and spread internet child predator boogiemen around 2008 out here, and that US comic book culture stigmas also include writing off fan, authors, and artists as male social pariahs. Child fuckers also only look for prey and child prostitutes, and hate moe shit by the way. You can thank this here Farms for eyewitness accounts and Bill Kurtis on Investigative Reports for shining light on this sort of shit way before NBC ever did, by the way.

Also I don't know where the Saber Marionette J scanlations are but there's a fan website that details summaries of what goes on.

PS Fuck you too, asshole. Colony Drop and MoeSucks is not this place. BTFO.
 
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Xenomorphs Are Cute said:
It's literally zoro.to getting it's 2nd rebranding after being Aniwatch. Nowadays, the pop-up ads after opening the site could be really annoying, as in unusable tier annoying cause singular taps lead to ads. But past that, it's fine. Right now Aniwave has it too, which I honestly recommend more.
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>using a pirate site in the year of our lord 2024 without adblock
 
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the new episodes of konosuba are pretty good and i dont want to sound gay but i think the second season started off better
but the second season was generally more funny than everything else in the series so whatever
surprisingly theres almost no coomerbait yet
 
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Finished reading Devilman Grimoire and as the biggest Go Nagai fan you will ever meet, this manga remake is simply the best and sometimes even better than the 1972 devilman manga from back then. How it repackages scenes and rearrange the whole story in this way is something of a work of a genius author. It is everything that devilman crybaby failed to be: an update to the modern times and also its own story, it is amazing and the final volume was pure fucking soul.

I can't believe I took this long to read this modern masterpiece, for a devilman fan like me who had very low hope go grow and grow as I finished each volume is so fucking amazing to be proven wrong.

Devilman G is fucking excelent. Who knew Kamishiro Kei from Battle toshinden would appear here of all places?
 
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Wait I didn't even catch that part where Decay is actually a copy of Overhaul that Ujiko had lying around.
What the fuck. You're just opening up WAY too many questions as to where Overhaul came from, and making the gaping plot hole of "Why doesn't AFO have Overhaul himself" even worse! Plus it's still setting the bases for that awful "Shigaraki finds the reverse switch on his quirk and becomes Scar in lategame FMA" twist I've been dreading by saying Decay is just a neutered Overhaul, which means Shiggy can quirk-evolve the reconstruction ability back anytime!

Why the fuck do we have to be stuck with you, Horikoshi?! At this point I don't care about any of this shit anymore, just hurry up and get to the part where Kurogiri backstabs AFO and they fuse into Kaguya again.
 
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The recent Tenchi discussion reminded me that a while ago, I came across a Tenchi fan forum called Useless Tenchi. It's been around since 2012, although I believe it's an offshoot of a BBS from an old Tenchi Muyo fansite called Ayeka.net that ran from 2003 to 2012. I guess technically its roots go all the way back to 2003. The forum isn't super busy, but it does still have a small userbase with a couple of relatively active boards. It warms my cold, black heart to see an old-fashioned single-topic fan forum clinging to life in this day and age, especially for a relatively forgotten show like Tenchi Muyo.

Never forget what social media and smartphones stole from us:
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Trollblade69 said:
Wait I didn't even catch that part where Decay is actually a copy of Overhaul that Ujiko had lying around.
What the fuck. You're just opening up WAY too many questions as to where Overhaul came from, and making the gaping plot hole of "Why doesn't AFO have Overhaul himself" even worse! Plus it's still setting the bases for that awful "Shigaraki finds the reverse switch on his quirk and becomes Scar in lategame FMA" twist I've been dreading by saying Decay is just a neutered Overhaul, which means Shiggy can quirk-evolve the reconstruction ability back anytime!

Why the fuck do we have to be stuck with you, Horikoshi?! At this point I don't care about any of this shit anymore, just hurry up and get to the part where Kurogiri backstabs AFO and they fuse into Kaguya again.
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It's become so predictable, and opens up a FUCKTON of other questions that are just as retarded as the answer. LOL! LMAO even!

I mean, seriously, EVERYTHING was according to this bootleg Madara's (who is himself an inferior product) plan?! Lul wut?!
 
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Doctor of Autism said:
Tl;dr Horikoshi is basically ripping off the Star Wars sequel trilogy
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And just like the sequel trilogy, the only redeeming (debatable) was in a spinoff

That reminds me, a bunch of twitter "leakers" and a few third rate anitubers where reporting that a MHA Vigilantes anime was greenlit.
However this was 9 months ago so it's pretty much proven to be fake and gay at this point, which did kind of annoy me a bit tbh.
 
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the only redeeming (debatable) was in a spinoff
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Vigilates dived in quality in 2019, when it became sidetracked by extended flashbacks that contributed nothing to the story, and was inserting AFO into more and more of the proceedings because the cancer this franchise contracted was clearly malignant and inoperable. The last year or two of publication was agonizing boring, just the same fight going on and on and on as Six kept pulling powers out of his ass and Koichi was given infinite stamina.

Is there ever going to be a Naruto that doesn't screw up? I'm asking seriously, where the fuck is my Good Naruto that never ever blows it?
 
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