Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Brenda Tits]

PCOS is def made worse by being fat and can cause it, but there are fit people with it too. It's essentially just having mass zits on your ovaries.

Yeah. PCOS is one of the few genuine things that can make it difficult to lose weight too. So there are a lot of fat people with it but it's something of a chicken/egg situation.

 

[unwieldy_object]

This popped up this morning. Another Dr. Gilete one, saving the brave young lady with EDS from the evil NHS who left her literally at risk of internal decapitation!

https://archive.is/7tSvD

My munchie radar is activated.
To avoid double posting: there’s also the problem that in the UK if you need a bit of extra help for kids with issues you need a ‘statement’ I.e. a diagnosis. So unless you’ve got that paper in hand, there’s no access to services. With that diagnosis, you can access services and benefits, so there’s a big pressure to do so. For the adhd adults, yeah it’s mainly getting legal speed

Sorry, no time for archive or link (work) but she raised £152 k. She’s munching for sure.
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She's really boring on social media unfortunately. I think she gets enough of her kicks irl.
She's had several surgeries by Gilete and they've failed which she blames on the NHS, this was the last resort and surprise surprise no one else in the world wanted to do it and even Gilete was apprehensive to do it.

I actually don't think she's profited, at least not much, from the fundraising, because Gilete makes them pay through the nose and then they have additional costs of going out of the country and having to stay in the area for a while before being stable enough to fly.
Her insta

 

[S.C.U.D.]

I'm 3 months late and gay on this but I only just saw it because lately she's been re-editing old videos as Youtube Shorts, but there was a video update from Physics Girl by way of one of her friends, SmarterEveryDay and it set off my (admittedly amateur) munchie detector hardcore, all but confirming my past suspicions.

Right away we get this:

Followed by it being revealed she first started feeling sick shortly after being married. Which is, uhh, interesting, reminds me of men trooning out on their wives right after marriage in a way. I don't know if there's an attention-seeking or narcissistic part of the human psyche that makes some people fling their partner into a new, horrible situation right after marriage, but I'm starting to think there might be.

At 8:20, Patreon comes up. SmarterEveryDay talks about how Physics Girl asked him if the Patreon was OK, she was worried about it, etc. which made me think it started to dip or something, so I pulled up Graphtreon and:

It had dipped a little bit throughout 2023 but really not that much, I think where she was really hurting revenue-wise was on Youtube. Not uploading any videos tends to reduce your ad income. Well, that video dropped in December and her Patrons doubled thanks to the begging. P.S. I wonder what the huge dip at the start of April was about, it's bigger than the rest. We'll have to see how this plays out long-term.

24k members. She has the dollar amount disabled which is cringe but we can make a good estimate. The default pledge is $5/month, but some are going to pledge less and some are going to pledge more. I think conservatively she's making $100k+ a month where before December she was probably making around half that, which was still insane money. Her Patreon is still active, but it's all munchie updates, and they're paywalled. I'm not willing to give her money to find them. She updates about once a month on average, or rather her editor Levi does, I guess this is his job now. I wonder if he does it for free.


As long as her fans continue to enable this, she has literally no reason to make new videos ever again. If you could get a million dollars a year for laying in bed all day, you'd do it too. I would.

Back to the video, when SmarterEveryDay recounts his visit with Physics Girl, he said at one point she told him she had run out of energy to talk and just shut down whatever conversation he and she were having, until she was ready to talk again later. I found that very interesting. Here's the clip of him recounting the visit:

Oh and I guess she has Lyme Disease now too. Sure. L | A

I'm not a munchie expert but you don't have to work on a boat to know flounder smells fishy.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Which is, uhh, interesting, reminds me of men trooning out on their wives right after marriage in a way

This is absolutely a red flag for me. Tons of them "get sick" immediately after securing a man/caretaker. Denae Manchester is another MCAS weirdo who started having ""reactions"" literally in the car on the way to her wedding.

Yeah you know, the first time she came up here I entertained that she just had some terrible post-viral shit going on but nah, this is a grift. I'd almost bet money she drops the act when they're alone and that's one of the reasons for things like there being no adaptations in the house (him mentioning the bathroom is too small for the caretaking situation) and why they're so careful about who can see her and when.

I might have brought this guy up recently but Whitney Dafoe was like THE face of ME/CFS for a long time, his parents are both medical researchers so people kept pointing to him as a case where it had to be the real deal. If he was faking wouldn't his parents notice? Claimed he was completely bedbound, TPN fed, could not do anything but lay in a dark room waiting to die. Except like Diana, he claims he has to be left alone and only select people can briefly visit him because otherwise it causes a massive crash. He was basically left alone for 23 hours with a laptop and no supervision. He needed a long period of warning before his parents were allowed to enter the room. You can't tell me he wasn't fucking around in there watching netflix or porn or whatever. He also claimed he got a "natural adrenaline rush" when he needed to use the toilet which allowed him to get out of bed, use the toilet, and take care of his hygiene but digesting food was so much of an energy drain it would have literally killed him if he tried. I guess making his dad wash his dick for him was a bridge too far.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

I might have brought this guy up recently but Whitney Dafoe

Dafoe really, really creeps me out. I mean to the extent where I feel my autonomic nervous system kicking in just watching him. Wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out he crawls out the window at night to mutilate horses or something.

Weaponized helplessness in men is god damn freaky.

 

[unwieldy_object]

Dafoe really, really creeps me out. I mean to the extent where I feel my autonomic nervous system kicking in just watching him. Wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out he crawls out the window at night to mutilate horses or something.

I didn't know who he was and had to look him up and fucking he'll you weren't exaggerating. I feel dirty after looking at his Instagram and no one can convince me he's not serial killer material.

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[Jupiter Doughnuts]

He also claimed he got a "natural adrenaline rush" when he needed to use the toilet which allowed him to get out of bed, use the toilet, and take care of his hygiene but digesting food was so much of an energy drain it would have literally killed him if he tried. I guess making his dad wash his dick for him was a bridge too far.

That's a decent argument for it being a subcategory of depression rather than anything else, at least taking that at face value. It's quite common for severely depressed people to have significant loss of appetite, but pretty much all of them get up to pee. There's some faking going on here, but a screw's gotta be loose mentally to spend that much time in one room even with a laptop without a strong financial incentive. With physics girl it's probably just a straight up grift though.

 

[Ice Cherry]

Can't reply/quote but (some of? all of?) PhysicsGirl's Patreon posts are re-uploaded on Kemono here, from November 2019 to April 3rd 2024 - if anyone wants to do further reading/archiving.

 

[std::string]

PCOS is def made worse by being fat and can cause it, but there are fit people with it too. It's essentially just having mass zits on your ovaries.

You actually don't need visible cysts for a PCOS diagnosis which is why some gyns are trying to get the name changed.

The tldr of PCOS is that it's when the thecal cells in your ovaries are hypersensitive to insulin and secrete too much testosterone in response. Why this happens in the first place and why this seems to totally fuck up your endocrine system remains a mystery, so there might be another piece of the puzzle.

 

[Otterly]

The tldr of PCOS is that it's when the thecal cells in your ovaries are hypersensitive to insulin and secrete too much testosterone in response.

I wonder if the GLP-1 drugs like ozempic might be useful for this as well?

 

[Mayhem]

Can't reply/quote but (some of? all of?) PhysicsGirl's Patreon posts are re-uploaded on Kemono here, from November 2019 to April 3rd 2024 - if anyone wants to do further reading/archiving.

Here are some quick observations:

1. The first beg for money is in January of 2023. Dianna has long COVID, but is expected to recover within a few months. Patreon updates are still regular, though, occurring at least once a week, even if it’s pulling old footage.
2. The Physics Girl production office closes at the end of March 2023, indicating that Dianna will not be back to work anytime soon. Updates after that are significantly more sporadic, occuring around once or twice a month.
3. Looks like ”allergies” to various foods begin to appear on the timeline in May 2023. She claims MCAS later this month.
4. PICC line mentioned for hydration in June. Is this fast? Her husband and her friend Levi are now her full-time caregivers. She claims any small activity can cause her to “crash” for days, so she spends the majority of her time isolated in a dark room. She supposedly is awake, but cannot read or watch TV.
5. Still the same in August 2023: she looks quite thin and hasn’t been out of bed in weeks. Supposedly is still not able to perform any “overstimulating“ activity, even reading a book or listening to music. (Wasn’t this called the ”rest cure” in the Edwardian era?) It’s also claimed that she is too weak to use the bathroom.
6. Still in the “crash” in October, which means nearly six months spent in bed. She wants paypigs to send her cute pictures for her electronic photo frame, which is apparently all the stimulation she can handle. (Boss level rest cure.)
7. Interesting development in November — the guy Levi claims to be making her daily meals, but is no longer seeing her regularly. Diana’s husband picks up the meals and delivers them to her. Levi lets it slip that Diana may be incapacitated for “5 to 10 more years.” What?
8. Her husband Kyle updates the next month. Diana has been in bed since February, tried all sorts of cures, even had physical therapy, but she “crashes” after everything and is too weak to do anything. Her husband mentions depression is part of her cycle. (No shit.) Any minor thing can set off her MCAS, he claims, including clothing, fragrances, and temperature changes. She’s also claiming leaky gut syndrome and something called small intestinal bacterial overgrowth disease. Supposedly she’s on medications but they have to find the right combo and any mistakes result in a weeks-to-months-long crash. She’s suffering so much, y’all! Plz giv moniez.
9. January and February 2024: Levi claims to be seeing her once a week, but she’s too weak to speak. She communicates via a markerboard. But like Our Girl Chelsea (RIH Queen, PBUH), she’s a good weight, good complexion, good color in her face.
10. March and April: Claims salmon gave her auditory hallucinations, fatigue, and leg pain, amongst other awful symptoms. Levi says she’s able to hold short conversations when he visits. Weight, complexion, and color all normal. Clean skin and hair, lovely neat eyebrows. Even has some roses in the cheeks…a side effect from her terrible allergies, I am sure. Is pictured wearing a gold ring, an Apple watch, cat ears, and earbuds, but is still in bed under blankets.

 

[athousandrustynails]

I think conservatively she's making $100k+ a month

Jesus H, I'm in the wrong fucking business! Who upon WHO is giving money to these people? I don't know anyone with the spare cash to be funding the life of some retard YouTuber, let alone someone who's personality has become "ill."

 

[Ice Cherry]

@Mayhem

7. Interesting development in November — the guy Levi claims to be making her daily meals, but is no longer seeing her regularly. Diana’s husband picks up the meals and delivers them to her.

I only read the few 2024 updates, but one of them said he was her editor. That really stuck out to me too - her employee(?) making and dropping off food every so often but not being allowed to stay or talk or anything except for to take a picture with her whiteboard, while she's definitely naked in the bed.

 

[Florch]

I didn't know who he was and had to look him up and fucking he'll you weren't exaggerating. I feel dirty after looking at his Instagram and no one can convince me he's not serial killer material.

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Don't know this particular one but after seeing those pictures I am 100% convinced the malingering is a long-con to try and evade justice when the police finally dig up his lawn.

 

[Mayhem]

@Mayhem

I only read the few 2024 updates, but one of them said he was her editor. That really stuck out to me too - her employee(?) making and dropping off food every so often but not being allowed to stay or talk or anything except for to take a picture with her whiteboard, while she's definitely naked in the bed.

Yes, I think Levi is her editor, but I’m honestly not familiar with her channel. According to the updates, Diana’s mom visits her on occasion, but otherwise, it’s just her and her husband Kyle. They receive very few visitors because they claim Diana doesn’t have the strength for it, and the visitors they have don’t stay long.

Some other thoughts:

• I think there are a few possibilities here. One, Diana could be legitimately ill. (I think this is unlikely because she’s claiming some munchie classics, including MCAS and leaky gut.) Two, Diana and Kyle could be grifting. Three, Diana could have been legitimately ill with post-viral malaise and ended up liking the attention she got from her shiny new husband that she caught munchie fever. I personally think option 3 is the most likely here, but I’m curious to see what you all think.
• If I were seriously ill, my mom would be around. Even if I didn’t want her around, even if it was hard, I would not want to burden my husband, especially after more than a year of being bedbound. If Diana is indeed still bringing home the amount of money from her Patreon we think she does, she can afford nursing care, especially since her needs are very simple. Has her husband returned to work or is he still her sole caretaker? (Maybe she’s allergic to nurses?)
• I am curious to know who has diagnosed her with these illnesses if she is so severely ill that she cannot use the bathroom on her own and a simple physical therapy session has her laid up in bed afterwards for weeks. How does she get to the doctor? Does she go during one of her “better days”?
• Diana looks quite healthy, even without makeup, and there is no sign of a PICC line in any of her pictures. No scarring, even. No muscle wasting, either, despite the fact that she’s supposedly too weak to do any exercise. Any medsisters disagree with me?
• Diana, Kyle, Levi, and anyone associated with this group have never begged for money…they’ve just sort of implied it, like “Diana is so worried about her Patreon! She’s suffering so much guilt from not being able to work!” I think they’ve managed to get away with this for so long because they don’t post a lot. There’s very little evidence to say she’s not sick. But she’s certainly making a lot of money off of this, regardless.

 

[Dnein]

What doesn't make sense with Diana is that everything there could be treated.

Say she really does have MCAS, prednisone. Say SIBO, antibiotics and fecal transplant. Depression (most likely if real), meds, ECT, etc. But she is choosing to do nothing. It's impossible that every diagnosis she has is also "super zebraaaaa" and untreatable.

Why would any doctor actually diagnose these claimed conditions and do nothing? If someone is THAT disabled, they aren't going to just throw PT at conditions with treatments and therapies, even if they are experimental.

PT being only discussed therapy is very telling about what the docs actually think here.

 

[Mayhem]

What doesn't make sense with Diana is that everything there could be treated.

Say she really does have MCAS, prednisone. Say SIBO, antibiotics and fecal transplant. Depression (most likely if real), meds, ECT, etc. But she is choosing to do nothing. It's impossible that every diagnosis she has is also "super zebraaaaa" and untreatable.

Why would any doctor actually diagnose these claimed conditions and do nothing? If someone is THAT disabled, they aren't going to just throw PT at conditions with treatments and therapies, even if they are experimental.

PT being only discussed therapy is very telling about what the docs actually think here.

Her husband says she’s on medications. He doesn’t specify which ones, though (not unexpected, to be honest). What he did say is that the challenge was finding the combination of medications that would alleviate her symptoms without activating her MCAS. But like you said, these conditions are relatively easy to treat and a good number of them don’t even require medication.

 

[Aunt Carol]

She communicates via a markerboard.

If you were sensitive to "chemicals," would you want dry erase markers around?

 

[Endora]

I’m a failed munchie. Ask me anything/about my personality disorder.

 

[Golden Bat]

I’m a failed munchie. Ask me anything/about my personality disorder.

I know enough about BPD. I'm fine.