US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Trump trusted Ivanka and in turn trusted Kushner. The fact they have been rather publically kept off the new campaign says Trump realizes that they sabotaged him.

you trust that fat idiot more than i do.

o but it's still so jarring in how brazen it is.

its only jarring because you assumed the government would force them to do it covertly, its like if you saw a kid smoking weed right in front of their parents. you'd naturally assume he'd have to do all sorts of things to sneak it but instead its like that.

in that Satan basically is a giant coward who lies and misrepresents himself. It’s not really sympathy for the Devil, it’s “look at this jackass

by your logic curb your enthusiasm is a comedy where we're not meant to like Larry David.

accidentally did more to make the Devil a hero in popular culture than almost anyone else

to be fair, if democracy didn't win the english civil war we probably wouldn't see the devil as a hero, and every time people would have been taught about paradise lost they'd be told the devil was a direct representation of Cromwell himself. This would probably also bleed into depictions of satan too. instead of red horns he'd look like the quaker oats guy. A lot harder to get teens into someone that looks like that.

It's incredibly popular, and numerous corporations are under lawsuit for it via outfits like Pivotrak and America First Legal.

not to PL, but my cousin works at a scummy job that used to be entirely staffed by immigrants, but very recently (probably since Rufo started kicking ass and taking names) they've been near exclusively hiring whites, the company hired a different HR person and that may have played a part, but i like to believe its because places want to appeal more to what they imagine will be a very pro-trump business world in the coming years. He said demographics wise, when he started it was like he was tom paris on Voyager, and now he's one of many white dudes.

also isn't it sort of ironic that Rufo's parents were immigrants and his wife's an immigrant and his kids are mixed and he's leading the charge against DEI? if republicans got their shit together 40 years ago he'd have never been in this country in the first place. now he's leading the charge

while constantly neglecting to consider the fact that it would be domestic which throws every other consideration out the window.

well thats an easy one to answer, you actually believe anyone fighting in the military really cares if their families are tortured to death because of them or their actions. they don't. anyone with a security clearance right now could have their kids raped and killed in front of them and they'd react less than if their sportsball team lost a game.

i'm sure all the politicans will just fuck off to say israel to make government decisions and just turn the domestic into an international war.

It doesn't matter if they're piloting an Abrams if their 4 year old daughter is in reach of an insurgent with a common kitchen knife.

what makes you think a soldier gives a fuck about their kids? if you read the navy seals thread on this site its pretty obvious most of these soldiers wouldn't care if you did kill their entire family.

you're a master of traps

why did i think you were talking about fembois?

 

[tehpope]

This has been my continual issue that I consider extremely important, which is the way that the Democrats/Uniparty/Marxists are constantly and obviously undermining the foundations of a peaceful, civil society. Frankly, they simply do not recognize the fragile nature of institutions, and believe they have infinite inertia to exist forever while subverted. As I've said before and will again, this kind of constant escalation can not end well, but the arrogance of the people like DNC completely blinds them to this fact. This kind of maneuvering to generate a sort of legalistic 'checkmate' works within the confines of a theoretical closed system, but life is anything but that.

What so many people forget, especially the politicians and bugmen, is that the legal and social systems are not reality, they are abstractions or more frankly, palatable substitutions to forestall violence. They operate as a means to resolve social conflict without resorting to violence though mutually agreed upon systems. If these abstractions are distorted or 'gamed' to the point of uselessness, they will be discarded and the old order of violence will re-emerge.

Some elites, especially George fucking Soros, want chaos. They think that chaos allows them to move the pieces around to their liking more than any other time. They expect the people to turn to a higher power, not god mind you, to lead the way to resolve the chaos. Soros wants a one world government and one world banking system. He's basically a marxist but likes capital. He wants a system where everyone has a voice and can steer society. And he's fine if the people steer it towards socialism / marxism / communism.

https://newdiscourses.com/2024/04/the-reflexive-alchemy-of-george-soros/

I think these elites expect themselves to guide the sheep plebs of society towards their goals and ideals. They don't expect anyone else to rise up and lead the people another direction. One(s) they do not like at all.

I think Soros is smart enough to understand that someone can come along and manufacture consent into guiding society one way or another. That's why the founding fathers had the system of checks and balances for the USA.

 

[Quiet Guy]

It’s going to be interesting how the Trump curse works this week since his hush money trial starts next Monday. Seriously, as was mentioned above, there might be a Berserk style eclipse where Meatball resurfaces and sacrifices the country so he can be the nominee, be prepared (Baron Trump is clearly Skull Knight).

Yes, yes,, more anime posting...

 

[The Last Stand]

Skip mostly to "Almost entirely". Kushner and Ivanka were snakes who were in the pocket of the Uniparty and were instrumental to a lot of Trump's biggest stumbles. Dodge cabinet picks? Check. Actively harming relations with Trump's personal picks? Check. Encouraging belief in people like Fauci? Check.

Trump trusted Ivanka and in turn trusted Kushner. The fact they have been rather publically kept off the new campaign says Trump realizes that they sabotaged him. Frankly, I'd not be surprised if we found out after he dies that Ivanka was given a single dollar in his will.

Maybe next time, don't trust a sleazy reality star turned real estate millionaire to run a country? Ever think about THAT, bucko?

 

[Betonhaus]

Maybe next time, don't trust a sleazy reality star turned real estate millionaire to run a country? Ever think about THAT, bucko?

Except he did a better job then the landed gentry politicians

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Maybe next time, don't trust a sleazy reality star turned real estate millionaire to run a country? Ever think about THAT, bucko?

The real estate mogul has done a better job than the Ivy league lawyers.

 

[make_it_so]

The real estate mogul has done a better job than the Ivy league lawyers.

To take it even further...

The real estate mogul/reality TV star who is basically a 1990's Democrat accomplished more of the Conservative movements' chief (alleged) goals in 4 years than their own favored politicians and think tanks did in the past 40.

 

[Terrifik]

To take it even further...

The real estate mogul/reality TV star who is basically a 1990's Democrat accomplished more of the Conservative movements' chief (alleged) goals in 4 years than their own favored politicians and think tanks did in the past 40.

you forgot the most litigated president & no new wars (soft trade war with China)

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

hey @dustbuster why do you love Ethan Klein and say he can do nothing wrong? do you agree with his view on kiwifarms and trannies too?

They don't particularly like that he treats them as equals I suspect.

trumps still pissed about how little they did for him after all the bullshit he did for israel with no ROI, he straight up called them ingrates if that one article someone posted ITT was accurate

if there's nobody left to attack you.

imagine thinking paleistein is their only enemy. they're going to have france and the uk on their ass by the 40s and a fuck load more countries too.

if Israel fucking glassed Iran,

it would be the rosenburgs all over again, jews would get way more shit and the retaliation would be severe

Imagine Bibi getting fed up with Biden's illegitimate regime and inviting Xi Xinping and a crew of reverse engineers into the fab.

instead of the scorpion and the frog its the scorpion and the scorpion, he invites Xi then they just steal the shit out from under him and demand forgiveness because of their "mah 6 million"

I honestly think a two-state solution would have been hashed out long ago.

the kikes wouldn't allow the US to have a two state solution when it came to riding the bus, but they're allowed a two state solution for their entire country?

BiBi was extremely against separate water fountains when growing up in the US, but now he's for them in his own country? fuck him

ut in a weird way I have to respect her.

I like her too, she managed to do through whoring what women like Clinton couldn't do by hitting the books and thats because VP. if everyone remembers that SNL sketch with clinton and palin you know hilary probably had the exact same reaction to hearing this cunt would become the first woman to be VP.

he soldier was allegedly promised $5,000-$6,000 to smuggle the illegal immigrant, according to the report.

lol, thats bait. its like someone offering to sell you an 8 ball of cocaine for $10, you're in a sting operation. they're giving you a deal because they know its bullshit anyways. i bet they knew he'd sperg and that would provide enough of a distraction to let the real smugglers with hundreds of these fuckers to hop on over.

then they summarily ignored every one and he had to do a new list for the next meeting
over and over and over

if he was ignored why would he do a new list?

Why do they flock to menthol?

black people have a surprisingly soft pallet they can't stand the taste of alcohol or tobacco so something sweet like menthol really is something they love. if you ever worked a bar in an inner city, you'll know blacks will either a. order drinks they hear from songs and instantly regret it or 2. get the most sugar filled drinks possible.

The idea of a unified group with a single interest

you're right jews and trannies don't exist. also if that interest is in keeping yourself alive i feel its pretty easy to unify a group.

The one for brewing beer and wine with weed works like a charm if you have homebrew experience and tweak it a bit, as does the one for growing shrooms at home. Won't say how I know this.

Apparently, from what I've been told, the books by one author published in the late 90s for cooking high grade meth and ecstacy is so complete and correct that if you can get your hands on the lab equipment and chemical precursors (nigh impossible now) and have chem lab experience, you could LARP as Walter White to your heart's content. Wish I could remember the name of the guy who wrote it. Pretty sure he got caught for selling the lab equipment to bike gangs and is serving life in prison.

IIRC the Poor man's james bond was supposed to be the real version of what the Anarchist cookbook wanted to be. to use it in a metaphor, its the Narcotics Anon to the Cookbook's Alcoholics annon

Question for people over the age of 40 here has there been a single person in modern history that has gotten as much negative press as Trump? Anyone even come close?

reagan or bush? you have to remember at least with trump almost no one follows or believes the media anymore. in 2008 people were still sure that reality television and shows like oprah were 100% legit. people believed that Dr.Phil was just as accurate as the DSM.

so while bush or reagan may have had slightly less bad press, by percentage more people believed the negative stuff.

 

[King Metalia]

They did it when Russia captured Chernobyl. I think it was us that told the EU they were going to bomb it in the hopes of irradiating Europe.

I'm actually pretty relieved at this point that Russia has total control over the sarcophagus and probably has numerous SAM sites protecting the area. I wouldn't put it past the brave freedom fighters of Ukraine to blow the thing up as a fuck you to Russia before losing. They've already showed a willingness to attack critical infrastructure against international treaties anyways. Why not blow up a reactor for no other reason than creating a headache for Putin? They clearly don't give a fuck about the people living there anyways.

Apparently the Ukraine didn't get the memo that essentially nuking your own country is bad. You'd think they'd have gotten the message after they almost blew themselves up when Chernobyl melted down.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

reagan or bush? you have to remember at least with trump almost no one follows or believes the media anymore. in 2008 people were still sure that reality television and shows like oprah were 100% legit. people believed that Dr.Phil was just as accurate as the DSM.

post something not retarded for a change.

 

[AnotherPleb]

All these elitest pricks are just welding the pressure relief valves shut and turning up the heat - and when that differential equalizes it'll be gruesome.

They think enough of them (or at least enough of them that are on the same side) will make it through the destruction so they can life in luxury while those fucking serfs know better than to hope they can have any of their luxuries like electricity or clean water.

Maybe next time, don't trust a sleazy reality star turned real estate millionaire to run a country? Ever think about THAT, bucko?

The alternative was Hillary Fucking Clinton and a guaranteed war with Russia by March 2016.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

To take it even further...

The real estate mogul/reality TV star who is basically a 1990's Democrat accomplished more of the Conservative movements' chief (alleged) goals in 4 years than their own favored politicians and think tanks did in the past 40.

It kind of makes you wonder where people will get presidents from now. The contrast between career politician and independent business magnate is undeniable and I'd rather have a mogul or an industrialist instead of any kind of government official as president from now on.

 

[AnotherPleb]

It kind of makes you wonder where people will get presidents from now. The contrast between career politician and independent business magnate is undeniable and I'd rather have a mogul or an industrialist instead of any kind of government official as president from now on.

The people won't be trusted to elect presidents after Trump. The fact he could be elected without going through the political offices at all infuriates the Uniparty.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Politicians are the aristocracy the United States wasn't ever supposed to have. But right from the very beginning too many people just didn't pay attention to who's managing their local, city, county, state, and federal governments and voted in and created the new enunch caste to managed their affairs. Cause doing the research is hard and too time consuming, so let's just vote in the nepot kin of the mayor, councilman, representative and etc. instead of taking the chance on the other guy(s) running.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

The people won't be trusted to elect presidents after Trump. The fact he could be elected without going through the political offices at all infuriates the Uniparty.

Well, their idea of who to vote in didn't work either. We saw what happened last time they took the vote away and it has been such a mess that it's utterly ruined their image and their abilities to project power. In fact, im not sure anybody is going to vote for the uniparty's other offices either if they're given the chance. Any local millionaire could easily snag the representative seat in their county if they're bored at this point.
Edit: In fact, just thinking about the uniparty and the deep state, perhaps the most alarming thing about them is how spent they are. Nobody working in government, the military or in the corporate ranks seems to have any real vitality to them. Its an entirely decayed system at this point not just logistically but also morale wise. None of these ivy league elites can justify themselves anymore.

 

[Gehenna]

correct me if I am wrong.

But your job was "political consultant" right? You were paid to do polling and research for politicians on both sides of the isle and advise them and their campaign, staff etc?

Because wouldnt people in your industry understand that trump a 1990s democrat/reality tv show host and all around orange walking parody, is a down culture symptom that shouldnt be imitated at all? Like meat ball ron trying to ape trumps style....DONT.

Fuck I would tell the DNC that they shoulda closed down the Jan 6th commettee. Binden should done a big speech about healing and done a blanket pardon of everyone for that day. basically do everything they can to peal moderates over and be the return to normal

Instead its trannys dancing niggers and now this?

Political Analyst but you got the job description right enough.

You are... right and you are wrong about this though. People in my industry have been screaming for years now that the increasingly fake look of politicians was leading to a disconnect of the politicians we advise from the populace they represented. I don't have any real ins tot he DeSantis campaign but I would expect he was told to act more sincere, more like he believed in his word. The problem is the only major example of that is the Giant Orange Cheeto.

Say anything you want about Trump. That he is a braggart, a blow hard, a pompous asshole who wants to be the only big man in the room. Trump is many bad things... but everything he did he meant and believed in. The man might be an asshole but he is a -sincere- asshole. So I believe that when DeSantis was told to be more sincere he took that as "Ape Trump"

 

[northstar747]

People in my industry have been screaming for years now that the increasingly fake look of politicians was leading to a disconnect of the politicians we advise from the populace they represented.

Interesting any idea on why the....disconnect issue was/is ignored?

I agree with your take on trump, again I m just surprised nether the GOP or the DEMs would take the lesson. I suppose its because of the influence of twitter and people believing their own propaganda

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Edit: In fact, just thinking about the uniparty and the deep state, perhaps the most alarming thing about them is how spent they are. Nobody working in government, the military or in the corporate ranks seems to have any real vitality to them. Its an entirely decayed system at this point not just logistically but also morale wise. None of these ivy league elites can justify themselves anymore.

It's certainly true that none of them have any energy, even the unelected bureaucrats in the agencies are just lifeless automatons.

Bernie, for all he's a 100 years old, actually did have some left in him, at least around 2016 or so. AOC had energy, though that seems to have been burned out of her and her squad now. It's like DC (and more local government) just drains the lifeforce from anyone who gets too close. Trump is literally the only person I've seen who entered and left the system largely intact, he didn't even age 20 years like most Presidents seem to.

Both parties are just filled with husks who do whatever they're told to avoid any pushback by the leadership, and the leaders are all weak and tired of living. They both desperately need new blood fed into them, new younger people who aren't already part of some power family. They need real leaders who have an actual substantive vision to strive for, that is more than just rage-bait or fear-porn. And preferably someone who can actually articulate it.

The GOP has really only had Reagan and Trump who could do that in the last few generations, and the DNC only had Obama and occasionally someone like Yang or Bernie as a side-hustle to motivate young people but who the DNC would never allow in a real leadership role.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Speaking of energy, WTF is this?

The polls are suggesting a huge shift in the electorate. Are they right? (archive)

It’s a significant reversal from recent history: President Joe Biden is struggling with young voters but performing better than most Democrats with older ones.

Something weird is happening beneath the overall stability of the early 2024 polling — and it’s either a sign of a massive electoral realignment, or that the polls are wrong again.

Polls show former President Donald Trump is ascendant with the youngest bloc of the electorate, even leading President Joe Biden in some surveys, as less-engaged young voters spurn Biden. Meanwhile, Biden is stronger with seniors than he was four years ago, even as his personal image is significantly diminished since he was elected last time.