Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Shadfan666xxx000]

I don't think they have been. I certainly know the (((media))) and (((politicians))) keep saying that, hence my reluctance to believe it.

I don't think you need to believe the media and the politicians. There are plenty more sources and trends to look for regarding Chinese civilization and its influence. They did invent paper money, a variant of the printing press, and had advanced metallurgy and societal organization supporting a massive population for centuries. If nothing else, seeing what became of Japan really should have been marked as foreshadowing for what would occur if China ever got the tools and education to kickstart themselves with a stable government.

 

[blackjack101]

-Kret had their own website with news articles talking about photonic radars, gets nuked from web.
-Vega had their own website with news articles talking about photonic radars, gets nuked from web.
-aorti.ru website of RTI had their own website with news articles talking about photonic radars, gets nuked from web.
-Advanced research foundation had display of the photonic radar antennas with news info about them, cant open webpage(pic related)

https://fpi.gov.ru/press/news/razrabotannaya-v-ramkakh-proekta-fpi-antenna-voshla-v-top-10-izobreteniy-2020-goda/

31:50 general designer talks about ground photonic radars in the Thz range

https://topwar.ru/88759-kret-novye-radary-pozvolyat-delat-rentgenovskie-snimki-samoletov-nahodyaschihsya-v-neskolkih-sotnyah-kilometrov.html?ysclid=luqk5z9wbd655280069

Radio-optical phased array antennas (ROFAR) of the new generation radars will make it possible to examine in detail aircraft located at a distance of 500 km, RIA Novosti reports the message of Vladimir Mikheev, adviser to the deputy general director of the Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern.
According to Mikheev, "radio-optical phased array antennas will significantly expand the capabilities of modern communications and radars – their mass will be reduced by more than half, and their resolution will increase tenfold."
"ROFAR will allow us to see an aircraft 500 kilometers away, as if we were standing 50 meters away at an airfield, its portrait in video range. Moreover, if necessary, this technology will allow you to look into the aircraft itself, find out what people and equipment are in it, since the signal can pass any obstacles, even meter-long lead walls," he said.
"ROFAR is able to take 'X-rays' of aircraft due to the use of a wide range of frequencies that penetrate to different depths inside the object," the deputy head explained.

So the thing is what can go wrong if you equip a country with these kinds of radars with a PIC production starting in 2024?
https://lenta.ru/news/2023/08/30/su57/?ysclid=lua6b6swlp738132269

Russia's fifth-generation Su-57 fighter will soon receive missiles capable of hitting targets up to 300 kilometers away. This was reported to TASS by a source in the military-industrial complex.
According to him, at present, the Su-57 in the zone of a special military operation (SMO) solves tasks with high quality. "Today, the fighter operates at a range of 120 kilometers, in the near future they expect the arrival of aviation missiles for high-speed air targets at a range of up to 300 kilometers," the source said.

The Mig 31 in 1993 shot a target from 300kms aways, And since they R-77 had an existing 120km range and the K-77M is proposed at a 193km range. the assumption is the K-77M with the ramjet motor that was shown on the Su-57 on October 4, 2020 is proposed with that 300km range. Hermes 2 stage missile has a 80km range for 1st stage and 20km for sustainer stage, Klevok-D2 assuming the 80km is the same for 1st stage it is stated the ramjet stage travels 40 seconds at 7000km/hr which amounts to a 77.77km range which is like almost 4 times the amount range than the Hermes with the sustainer stage while carrying a 56kg warhead that is two times heavier than the Hermes warhead according to patent proposal and news source. 300km for a K-77M design seems possible if its ramjet.

If the K-37M is proposed at 400km I wonder if a ramjet design version of it would go to a 600km range. Therefore, you can have an Su-57 and S-500 claimed with 600km missiles creating a 600km airspace dead zone for aerial targets. they can exchange their radar data with Su-70s potential Su-75s or even 4th gen aircrafts along with other existing SAMs. But stealth is still somewhat important to maintain for themselves to give the adversaries limited aerial striking as possible.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

If nothing else, seeing what became of Japan really should have been marked as foreshadowing for what would occur if China ever got the tools and education to kickstart themselves with a stable government

I disagree. - If Black Africans were given all the advantages of a fully established Westernised, modern country, what would it look like? Oh, wait, we already know.


Plus Detroit, Baltimore, Chicongo, etc.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

I disagree. - If Black Africans were given all the advantages of a fully established Westernised, modern country, what would it look like? Oh, wait, we already know.

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Plus Detroit, Baltimore, Chicongo, etc.

But these are the Chinese we're speaking of. The same people who built this:
this
and this.
Even from a race realist perspective you're talking about a civilization that built massive wonders, had a sophisticated societal framework that survived countless civil wars and invented gunpowder. Hell, they're the ones who first inspired the Japanese in terms of civilization and we all saw how that went so what good reason do you have for thinking they couldn't catch up if you starred literally bankrolled new factories for them?

 

[Iron Jaguar]

what good reason do you have for thinking they couldn't catch up if you starred literally bankrolled new factories for them

Nigger, do you know why the Great Wall was built? It wasn't just to keep raiders out, it was to mark the boundary of the Celestial Kingdom. To the Chinese mind, nothing outside the Empire mattered or even existed. This is crucial to their mindset - nothing outside their Empire is of consequence and they became a stagnant culture because of it, which is why they were soundly thrashed every time they crossed a non-Chinese power.
They still think like that; neither modern technology nor Communism will change their inherent Chineseness.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Nigger, do you know why the Great Wall was built? It wasn't just to keep raiders out, it was to mark the boundary of the Celestial Kingdom. To the Chinese mind, nothing outside the Empire mattered or even existed. This is crucial to their mindset - nothing outside their Empire is of consequence and they became a stagnant culture because of it, which is why they were soundly thrashed every time they crossed a non-Chinese power.
They still think like that; neither modern technology nor Communism will change their inherent Chineseness.

That's fine if their inherent Chineseness didn't also mean building factories and becoming a world power wasn't a part of it but it is.

 

[Overly Serious]

No, they were basing it on centuries of the West dealing with Chinese conceit and arrogance.
The Chinese STILL are not capable of making or maintaining great technological leaps; what they do have, they've stolen, and the only decent products manufactured in China are done so in factories built and run under the eagle-eyed scrutiny of non-Chinese managers. The Chinks can pretend all they want that they're running the show but anyone with experience of them knows damned well that every decent manufacturing plant has a Jap or a White man somewhere behind the scenes.

Are you including Taiwan in all the above? Because Taiwan is the leading manufacturer of computer chips is it not? And Taiwanese are the same people as the mainland, just currently not in the same political state. Or are you asserting that even in Taiwan the credit is not the Taiwanese people but foreign management and design?

Also, as @Shadfan666xxx000 points out, there is historical examples of Chinese innovation and success. So it's also excluding the past. And I'm fairly sure I can find current day innovations as well. What was that Chinese woman who did some viral research, saved countless lives. I can't recall the specifics but am sure I can search it up.

Really, an assertion that China can never be top dog due to some inherent racial flaw sounds like American cope to me. The Cultural Revolution did a number on them but that doesn't rule them out.

 

[Male Idiot]

Correct me if I'm wrong aren't most of the transcarpathian hungarians in current year really just hungarian speaking gipsies? I remember looking at pictures of "hungarian" refugees in Budapest at the start of war, it looked like a batch of purebred pajeets from Bangladesh or something.
Can't imagine the average hungarian ultranationalist being overjoyed with the idea to import like 30000 or however many streetshitters from a region that is poorer than the most run down backwater dogshit place in Hungary, but maybe the revisionist autism is stronger than I think it is.

Yes, but very few amongst the population know that they are often Pajeets or half hohol hybrids. To the center right they are good christian brothers that need saving, and the far right may just bite the pillow and figure its worth to fuck Trianon, no matter who. The average hungarian isn't Azov, the skinheads are there but much less.

The last election, the far right got 5,7% votes. The opposition got 38%, the rest was mostly center right government.

In retrospect, that was a pretty stupid assumption. It's not like we were dealing with African bushmen and Indians. Was everyone just being racist when they said that?

They did the same to Japan and Korea. Made in Japan used to mean shoddy, cheap, shitty industrial product.

The paper was eventually published without the dubious March 2019 detection.
However it and half a dozen other papers show that a) COVID-19 was present in full community transmission months before the recognized first cases happened (France, Brazil, Italy) and b) heavily imply that the virus was released/got loose somewhere during spring/summer 2019 because the first antibody detection comes from early September in Italy. They did a follow up on this and found no other occurences of antibodies in earlier samples, meaning these were actual antibodies agains COVID-19 stemming from an infection and not mere cross-reactivity from antibodies against other coronaviruses.
There were also reports from Singapore about people without any known prior SARS/MERS exposure displaying immune reactions consistent with prior infection, jiving with the theory that COVID-19 was part of the summer respiratory infection wave normal in the tropics.

Big fucking thunk, had been coughing up blood in that timeframe, first time I ever needed hospital care since my age hit double digits. I quit smoking after, thought it was the healthy sticks.

I disagree. - If Black Africans were given all the advantages of a fully established Westernised, modern country, what would it look like? Oh, wait, we already know.

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Plus Detroit, Baltimore, Chicongo, etc.

Yes, chinamen aren't negros. They are numerous and capable enough.

 

[Overly Serious]

Big fucking thunk, had been coughing up blood in that timeframe, first time I ever needed hospital care since my age hit double digits. I quit smoking after, thought it was the healthy sticks.

There was a bit of a weird bug that went around a bit before Covid hit the news. I most certainly remember colleagues in the UK saying that they'd had something odd. People who never used to get ill getting ill, people saying that it wasn't a cold they just felt really off for a bit, immune system firing up. I had it and immediately thought about it when Covid was hitting the news. It was a month or two before. Am sure others recall similar from themselves or from people they knew. It wasn't everybody, it was just enough that people were saying there was a weird bug going around.

EDIT: So when do we think Chasiv Yar will fall?

 

[Male Idiot]

I got colds regularly, but never coughing up blood. In the end I didn't need any serious attention, but the doc recommended 2 weeks in the ward and she knows it better than me.

 

[Ashkenazi Porn Actress]

I had it and immediately thought about it when Covid was hitting the news. It was a month or two before.

In general there was something weird going on in 2019/2020. Influenza surveillance also showed an explosion of various non-genotyped flu strains spreading all over the place before COVID-19 essentially made the flu irrelevant after March 2020 for close to two years due to viral interference.
The influenza B Yamagata line appears to have completely died out in the wild as well.

 

[Fapcop]

Interesting…



So residents of frontline cities are likely to reveal the positions of Ukrainian troops to the Russians, and therefore need to be evacuated?

According to this Ukrop officer:


Kiwibros, that can’t be right!

I’ve been repeatedly told that the brave Ukrainian people are steadfast and united in their existential fight against the Russian orcs.

Have I been lied to?!

In general there was something weird going on in 2019/2020. Influenza surveilance also showed an explosion of various non-genotyped flu strains spreading all over the place before COVID-19 essentially made the flue irrelevant after March 2020 for close to two years due to viral interference.
The influenza B Yamagata line appears to have completely died out in the wild as well.

I’ve never had the flu… Am I a genetic freak or something? Or have the NWO’s viruses just not targeted my phenotype yet?

 

[Male Idiot]

Even with a willing populace, if you haven't ran from your home, you don't want it torn up into a makeshift bunker.

Because those attract enemy big guns.

This isn't the same as letting some soldiers bunk in your house or barn to stay dry when the union cannons are a hundred miles away.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Are you including Taiwan in all the above?

No. The Taiwanese were all the cleverest and most Westernised ones, who managed to GTFO when the Communists were obviously going to win.

there is historical examples of Chinese innovation and success. So it's also excluding the past.

Yes, obviously. Did you not understand what I meant by "stagnant culture" in my next post? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't see it.

an assertion that China can never be top dog due to some inherent racial flaw sounds like American cope to me

Great. If only I were an American, eh?

Is it just me or are there a couple of China dogs yapping in here?

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Welcome to Ukraine-Russia war thread, where some retards cant keep it in their pants and have to start sperging about topics completely irrelevant to the thread.

This place really is becoming reddit 2.0, except you can call people niggers.

 

[The Ugly One]

I guess you should have thought about that before you murdered 144 civilians.

Don't blame me, I voted for the orange man.

Doesn't Ukraine need electricity? Is that plant somehow not important to their ability to remain powered?

Zelensky needs NATO to enter the war directly a lot more than he needs his subjects to have electricity.

Oh no I'm well aware that China is fucked up but it feels like everybody forgot that they've been the foremost economic and technological power multiple times already. It's kind of like judging France for WW2 but on a bigger scale.

They're not inbred retards like Arabs, or missing links like negros, but they haven't really been on top of the world like that since the 15th century or so. Of course, they could just tread water and wait for the white man to import enough of the aforementioned races that not only are we no longer maintaining a large technology gap, but we're unable to keep our cities from burning to the ground.

IMO, the biggest thing the Chinese have to worry about is a Korea-Japan axis. Whoever decides to start having kids again first will win that one.

 

[Slur Generator]

The Chinese 1 child policy has to be one of the dumbest decisions ever in the history of mankind, even worse than buying niggers to pick cotton . China atm has a big demographic crisis looming, even more so because there are way more men then women. Unsurprising but when you are only allowed one child a lot of men wanted a boy.

 

[Ignatius von Cistern]

I’ve never had the flu… Am I a genetic freak or something? Or have the NWO’s viruses just not targeted my phenotype yet?

you could be of German descent. if so, you might be also be resistant to HIV

 

[Dick Mason]

Welcome to Ukraine-Russia war thread, where some retards cant keep it in their pants and have to start sperging about topics completely irrelevant to the thread.

This place really is becoming reddit 2.0, except you can call people niggers.

People tend to hang out in threads they're interested in and chat. It happens with any big thread. The mods are pretty good at keeping that from overwhelming though. If you want to bitch about it, bitch to the mods. They seem to handle that well.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-21/australian-joel-stremski-killed-ukraine-battling-russians/103128292

Former Australian soldier Joel Stremski killed while serving with foreign unit of Ukraine's Armed Forces​

A second Australian member of a foreigners military unit in Ukraine known as "The Chosen Company" has been killed while fighting against invading Russian forces in the country's east.

Sources have confirmed to the ABC that Victorian man Joel Benjamin Stremski died "heroically" in October while holding off Russian troops, in the same month an artillery strike killed former Townsville-based soldier Matthew Jepson.

A military colleague said the 21-year-old former soldier from Melbourne was the "last man standing against a horde of Russians" whom he held off "so others could retreat".

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraine-russia-war-conscription-age-hkxkmn3l5

https://archive.is/s4Npi (paywall begone)

Facing conscription, Ukraine’s young are torn between fight or flight​

Plans to mobilise half a million more troops leave nowhere to hide for those who would rather cling to a semblance of ‘normal’ life — nowhere except the nightclub​

“People have gotten used to the idea of the front line being distant, that it’s fixed. But the truth is that the Russians could break through at any moment. We could be fighting for Kyiv again. People don’t understand the threat,” he said.

Handing out condoms nearby for an LGBT charity, Vladislav Fomin, 27, said draft officers had stopped him in central Kyiv a few weeks ago. At that point he was still too young to fight, but he acknowledged that his time may soon come.

Anton Frolov, a 40-year-old film critic, was walking a friend’s dog early in the morning in Lviv when he was pulled over by soldiers demanding to see his papers.
He was taken straight to a medical centre to determine whether he was fit to fight. Tests showed he had elevated blood pressure, but these concerns were dismissed. “I was told that I had cheated the test to deliberately raise it,” he said.

 

[Slur Generator]

Having charities for sodomy is such a clown world thing. Welcome to the US sphere of influence.