Warhammer 40k

Owning the chuds by consuming products at a markup above MSRP. Like there’s a lot of these people, mostly numales and troons, that do this. It’s not an own by any means, especially when the product, like with magic cards, is trash. You’re spending money to spite people on the internet that don’t care.
Hey, supporting your FLGS is based. Mine sells at retail and pocks the discount he gets from buying from GW / distributors, but I could understand if he had to kick in a ... looks like eactly 15% markup. Huh. That's odd, since that's the GW discount for vendors.
 
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It's the exact opposite. The lore chuds who are screaming to high hell over these changes typically haven't played a game or assembled an army for years.
More like the majority of people on twitter are nogames that spend more time arguing than they do going out to their LGS and being part of a playgroup.
Hey, supporting your FLGS is based. Mine sells at retail and pocks the discount he gets from buying from GW / distributors, but I could understand if he had to kick in a ... looks like eactly 15% markup. Huh. That's odd, since that's the GW discount for vendors.
That’s the only thing I could agree with them on. Too many people are happy to hit up online sellers who don’t have to worry as much about things like overhead because they operate out of a small space. My LGS will order us stuff they don’t have in stock like that but we pay their distributor price + S&H and then text us when it arrives.
 
I read Imperial Creed and never saw shit about Yarrick being gay.
Maybe I missed it? That's the book all the pridefags reference as the evidence.
I know it was implied on a short story about his past, maybe there were other sources for it. But the one thing that's still good about the lore is that it doesn't reduce people to their sexuality (kinda ironic considering the Imperium reduces people to their number).
 
I printed off and painted some epic scale figures recently for the first time, quite fun painting at this scale, doesn't take long at all. I plan on making some kind of diorama with some ig tanks at this scale eventually.

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cashgrabs want your money, woke shit wants you to fuck off in the chance of getting some pedo faggot's money.


they already try that but they try to wokeify it anyway. like mcdonalds saw the jp ad popularity and just made a nigger anime. i think by the time they figure it out ironically america will just become the negroidal shithole advertisers and corpos think it is now which is funny to imagine niggerland being overrun with white nationalist advertising and media.


its a youtube series why not just turn back the clock.
Naw man. The fun part of all this shit is no matter what bullshit they say, no one on the bottom is going to the top.
It won't be blacks, it won't be trans, it won't be whatever bullshit minority import group.
Just tools to be used and discarded while trying to make money and gain power.
Really that's what I'm waiting for. When they look up and realize it's the night of the long knives and they were fucking morons.
 
Meanwhile, GW is still laughing their way to the bank despite all these grand calls of boycotts which have been going on for years. They can put out official lore depicting the God Emperor as a transsexual Mexican woman, and the 40K fans would scream to high heaven that this violates the canon, but at the end of the day, they'll still buy official merchandise, they'll still show up in wargaming events, and they won't say anything when the dude with the 3D-printed custom models gets kicked out of the tournament. So GW has no reason to listen to their complaints; doing things like Primaris Marines, jacking up the price tag, or Fem Custodes won't hurt their bottom line.

I never heard of a corporation that will bend the knee to its actual customers instead of Blackrock or the Twitter crowd. That being said, GW still lost some money after they gave the middle to content creators and tried to charge people money for a video on how to use spray paint on Warhammer+ (I'm not kidding). Fucking over Astartes and TTS, things that got more people into Warhammer, really rubbed fans off despite the "Warhammer Community" shit Games Wokeshop talks about. Even if you ignore the woke shit people are catching onto GW's shitty practices with their games thanks to things like inflation and a shitty economy. It doesn't matter if it's Underworlds, Age of Shitmar, Old World, or 40k. You're paying a shit load of money to play a beta version of a board game and game pieces that should have been fine tuned without a day-one hotfix or nerf like Squats or Eldar. You're also paying for a game that may have little or no support, yet GW wants to make it competitive like an esport. Nobody, including the biggest Games Wokeshop shills, is going to be happy to know they wasted $200+ on a army that turned to shit in less than a day, and nobody wants to play a game with little or no support. Inflation is making anyone who isn't a whale, a tourneyfag, or a cucked-fanboy neckbeard reconsider buying GW stuff.

On a more serious note, the thing about successful boycotts is that it helps when you have a tangible competitor to jump over to that the company of interest knows you're leaving for. MvC: Infinite was a bad game, but Capcom was confident that didn't matter since they were the only game in town that offered modern tag-2D fighting...that is, until the surprise announcement of DragonBall FighterZ. After that, Infinite died within 3 months from all its scummy practices and no longer having a stranglehold on the genre - two of the largest names in their industries (Marvel and Capcom) had their game fucking die while Marvel was at its zenith with Infinity War.
Sjwmarvel vs Crapcom: Infinite Shite wasn't destroyed by Drazonball Fighter Z despite the "What's your agenda" incident (KoF15 and Tekken 7 were also around). Crapcom ruined MvC: I all by itself with terrible PR, and leaks that turned out to be true (Disney and Crapcom tried to milk the disc-locked content for 5 years with X-Men and Ms Mudslime being one of the dlcs). People got their copies earlier, and were reporting how much that game sucked (shitty OST, no Japanese voices). Sjwmarvel vs. Crapcom's Special Edition will always be one of the most infamous special editions because it was bait and switch with the plastic Easter Eggs and battered Chun-Li figure. Fighting game organizations gave Crapcom the middle finger when Crapcom's plan to take more money from TOs got uploaded. If Crapcom and Disney didn't ruin MvCI it would coexited with Dragonball Fighter. There's a history behind this mess of a game involving journos and some slut from Redbull.

Unfortunately, GW has no actual rival or competition that could give them a run for their money. You would need a line of products that consistently beats GW's in quality for cheaper prices, is more popular, and has better gameplay and support. That, and a fucking massive IP behind it. Even Star Wars and Marvel are fighting over the tablescraps left by GW without any further traction. What could beat it? One Piece? Warcraft/Starcraft if Blizzard wasn't shitting their pants at every turn? It requires an astronomical investment to compete against GW in the tabletop, and they know it.
Many studios were trying to rival WoW only to fail. Now WoW is a joke to anyone who isn't a Blizzcuck fanboy. You don't always need a rival to shoot yourself in the foot, but D&D would be the closest to a tabletop rival (and maybe Pathfinder). Too bad WoTC ruined D&D to a point you see it collecting dust at discount stores (People like 5th Ed core rules that you can use for other games, but they hate Current Year D&D because it's too progressive). There are more visible cracks on Games Wokeshop's walls, and it's all GW's fault (these crack have been happening for years, way before Age of Shitmar and woke shit happened). In time, those walls will fall.
 
Female custodes now transgender marines? GW has gone WOKE
Considering Slaanesh is the god(dess) of excess and perversion? Fitting.
people gradually seem to have come to accept Newcrons and that was far more jarring than this
That's because they went from "Lamer Tomb Kings, but in Space" to "Tomb Kings in Space and everyone is dementia-addled and fixated on grudges that have outlived suns". So you get shit like Trazyn and Orikan fucking with each other non-stop for a few thousand years, complete with Trazyn siccing a genestealer on the guy and going "It was just a prank, bro!" after it nearly rips Orikan apart. Nemesor Zahndrekh went from a terrible Don Quixote reference to a guy who is painfully aware he has lost half his marbles but he's decided to roll with it as the only means of coping he has at hand. A Prince Philip analogue who shows up unexpected and uninvited on "Diplomatic Tours" to worlds belonging to these cute little younger races to bestow upon them his ancient wisdom of the Necrontyr Empire regarding their culinary habits and the BMI of their young before fucking off the minute they start pointing their guns at him would be entirely in character for the NuCrons.
"If it has four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Kroot will eat it."
It's good stuff. He's less grumpy/fed up with Space Marines than I imagined. Sad to not hear his side of the story re: forcing the Perry twins to make the chaos dwarf hats as comically large as he wanted.
At least he got his revenge in the end with Nagash the Skele-Pope.
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Dude's hat is so comically large you'd think he was from 40k.
 
We'll have to see future sales and how they work. Again, if future sales are impacted and start to go down, then yes, Fem Custodes and Fem Marines are not a popular decision among the consumers. But if the next box set gets sold out within a week, well, that just goes to show this controversy is a nothingburger for GW's real fans-the whales.
Aren't up to date with the thread yet, but wanted to reply to this now. Basically, like your post stated,most consumers don't give a shit, it's always like that, only the hardcore pay enough attention to notice how the brand is going down the drain. If Primaris did not kill 40K, a fluff blurb in a book definitely will not. Also, if there are any lost sales, it will realistically be because the Custodes Codex sucks ass rules wise. Unless you mean a global sales loss, but then, there are a million things they can blame over femstodes for causing a global hit to sales. And I'd be very surprised something like that even happened. I only see custodes sales going down and for the grand majority, due to rules reasons.
 
Also lmao, paying that $24 markup.

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Yeah that person can be a faggot all they want, the rest of their misbegotten kind don't buy or play anything related Warhammer. Or wargames, or games to begin with. They see something, they shout at it from the back, and yet they're the ones listened to. Of course their name is Soapbox. :story: I checked the tweet and people are pointing out her bullshit immediately, nice. Tranny mom too, poor kid, fate worse than death. This person may collect minis and may even read the lore and/or play (I haven't gone that keep into their profile, I don't feel like hurting myself) but that is a rare exception. Even then the fact they're boasting about buying Custodes because of the recent nonsense doesn't help their case.
More like the majority of people on twitter are nogames that spend more time arguing than they do going out to their LGS and being part of a playgroup.
All you had to say, people shitposting and flame warring on the internet are a small, spread out fraction of the rest of the people on the internet, let alone the world. Twitter is a cesspool for that very reason. I guarantee there are more people who have actually played a game on this site than all of Twitter.
The scalper thing cracks me up. GW sells a hardback book with a fancy cover, scalpers with bots can sell it for 3x the price on launch day, people gnash their teeth and whine, but then the scalpers sell out still.
That's unfortunately common, my favorite was when Snoy's and Microshit's latest consoles as well as the new Nvidia scam cards came out and that shit was sold out faster than a page could reload on Fiber, only for scalper to put them up for 2x+ the price. Bonus points if they didn't sell out so they had a bunch of shit they couldn't sell and needed to sell cheaper than the market price just to recoup some of their loss.
 
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Aren't up to date with the thread yet, but wanted to reply to this now. Basically, like your post stated,most consumers don't give a shit, it's always like that, only the hardcore pay enough attention to notice how the brand is going down the drain. If Primaris did not kill 40K, a fluff blurb in a book definitely will not. Also, if there are any lost sales, it will realistically be because the Custodes Codex sucks ass rules wise. Unless you mean a global sales loss, but then, there are a million things they can blame over femstodes for causing a global hit to sales. And I'd be very surprised something like that even happened. I only see custodes sales going down and for the grand majority, due to rules reasons.
Exactly. You're more likely to see less Custodes purchases not because of the Fem-Custodes debacle, but because they got nerfed. If the opposite happened and they got buffed, GW could write in all the Fem-Custodes wank material they want, and it won't hurt their bottom line. They could even say that canonically, 90 percent of the Custodes are lesbian women who fornicate with each other on top of the Emperor's rotting corpse, and people would still buy that shit because of the meta. The only complaint they really would have is the price, but we all know that's not a deterrent to buying more product, even as the stores sell out and scalpers make hard cash by selling this plastic crack for 2-3 times the selling price.

I never heard of a corporation that will bend the knee to its actual customers instead of Blackrock or the Twitter crowd. That being said, GW still lost some money after they gave the middle to content creators and tried to charge people money for a video on how to use spray paint on Warhammer+ (I'm not kidding). Fucking over Astartes and TTS, things that got more people into Warhammer, really rubbed fans off despite the "Warhammer Community" shit Games Wokeshop talks about. Even if you ignore the woke shit people are catching onto GW's shitty practices with their games thanks to things like inflation and a shitty economy. It doesn't matter if it's Underworlds, Age of Shitmar, Old World, or 40k. You're paying a shit load of money to play a beta version of a board game and game pieces that should have been fine tuned without a day-one hotfix or nerf like Squats or Eldar. You're also paying for a game that may have little or no support, yet GW wants to make it competitive like an esport. Nobody, including the biggest Games Wokeshop shills, is going to be happy to know they wasted $200+ on a army that turned to shit in less than a day, and nobody wants to play a game with little or no support. Inflation is making anyone who isn't a whale, a tourneyfag, or a cucked-fanboy neckbeard reconsider buying GW stuff.
That's the thing though; GW has already chased out anyone who isn't a whale long before this. So their army of shills and whales will still buy, their losses will be minimal, and if history serves as any indication, they will make bank on this, the newest kits will sell out quickly, and scalpers will start targeting the new releases, buying them up, and selling them for a profit on places like Ebay or Amazon. And the grognards will buy it all the way. GW and the scalpers will be laughing all the way to the bank, and this whole ''boycott'' over the Fem-Custodes thing will amount to nothing.
 
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Well said, it takes something far more substantial to harm GW. If Custodes sales go down I bet you grifters will be all like "Oh it was us! We complained about fem-Custodes so much people are listening to us! Subcribe to us because people are listening to what we have to say!" They need another End Times to mean anything at this point.
 
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Well said, it takes something far more substantial to harm GW. If Custodes sales go down I bet you grifters will be all like "Oh it was us! We complained about fem-Custodes so much people are listening to us! Subcribe to us because people are listening to what we have to say!" They need another End Times to mean anything at this point.
The loss will be minimal, since the other kits will still sell. Then eventually, we forget about this particular boycott because GW's plastic crack continues to sell. It will never stop selling so long as whales have disposable cash.
 
I read Imperial Creed and never saw shit about Yarrick being gay.
Maybe I missed it? That's the book all the pridefags reference as the evidence.

I know it was implied on a short story about his past, maybe there were other sources for it. But the one thing that's still good about the lore is that it doesn't reduce people to their sexuality (kinda ironic considering the Imperium reduces people to their number).

I have no issue at all with Yarrick being gay - I actually kind of like the idea! - but in a grimdark far future where there is only war, ultimately, the sexuality of one guardsman (albeit one held in such high regard as Yarrick) is about as significant as the colour of his eyes. Warhammer 40k is kind of a sexless universe, really.
 
You know who I feel bad for people who bought age of sigmar models that game is not going to last turns out releasing a extremely popular video game collaboration with Total War warhammer and setting it in warhammer fantasy makes people wanna go buy the models who would have thought clearly knowing that GW.
Should have just went with the ending of storm of chaos but no the orcs can't just beat the living **** out of Mary Sue IKEA
 
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Yarrick should come back reincarnated as an ork due to their nature and be bros with Gaz.

Warboss Kommizar Yarrick and he launches along with a sprue of salvaged imperium bits for orks.

Better this than a ugly bulldog “daughter” like poor old Creed.
I liked the prospect of Yarrik being the new Solar instead of the random faggot they made up for the role.
I knew that, but it was still a big controversy. Ironically both them and Arch tried to diverge into Vampire the Masquerade following that, with the latter giving up pretty fast. In the end no matter what alternative you go into in tabletop/roleplay, everything is significantly more pozzed than GW.
TTRPGs thankfully it's a lot easier to just shift to an older edition and fuck it, as long as you have a few players, DM sets ruleset like iron law and most TTRPGs won't give half a shit as long as it's fun. Same deal with the retarded fluff, a lot easier to ignore everything gay and crazy after the 3rd edition if you are so inclined. House ruling in TTRPGs also tends to have minimal resistance as well thanks to DM's law. So they can poz it to high all all they want, but I can play whatever fucking ruleset I want with whatever racial distribution I want as long as my players are all in, Orcs can be called niggers in my campaign and be given -6 INT and be done with it.
I think its less pozzed and more that Vampire is a hard bitch to sell. With CP, you got neon lights, cybernetics, cool actions scenes an retrowave stuff. Cthulhu you got that horror of the unknown and dark gods, D&D is going on adventures an etc. What does Vampire have? Its pretty much a very heavy roleplay political thriller, good luck selling that to the average viewer.
Well, it was pretty bug during the heyday of goths. I did have some fun campaigns, one just grabbed local news stories and implemented them into the context of vampiric society and it was pretty fun. So I do find an appeal to the setting with being on the more subtle side. But with the death of the goth movement, leaving aside the faggotry, I could totally see it cratering. Rules on the other hand...
Even if you tried to balance out the RP aspects with combat encounters, the shit always either stagnated since there was basically a soft cap for power due to the generation/diablerie thing or you ignored it and the shit got off the rails broken quicker than a 15th level D&D 3.5 game.
yeah, the system as great as long as you kept it more narrative or investigational, but the moment combat starts, the whole game falls like a deck of cards and it becomes the most tedious shit. One edition I remember had something like "play the first 3 rounds, whoever seems to be winning gets the total win in narrative" which basically translates to "we are unable to make a combat system which isn't an insufferable slog, so fuck it, lets just void it as soon as possible". I also noticed that a vampire bite was waaaay too effective in too many situations even if you don't know shit about combat...
God, I'm reminded of this one Vamp game, where the GM decided to shove Werewolf, Changeling, Hunter, Mage and I think Wraith into one fuckin' game (basically allowing each player to be a character from those specific books) and that shit fell apart super fast.
That sounds like a nightmare, I get the appeal of the whole "shared universe" tempting people, but every single one operates on such a different wavelength and power scale, that's without getting into detail that there needs to be a very big excuse for most of them to not hate each other in a primordial level.
I think some women are more malicious but I don't get hating ones thst do just want to hang out with men but don't do anything egregious, or that like it for more female centric reasons like cosplay or interpersonal character interactions and fanfic but recognize that they're a part of not the whole of the hobby.
My policy on "women in men spaces" is, you enjoy it for what it is and don't fucking nag about how it needs to change to your needs, and please remember that most of the people you interact with are autists that lack any sense of social queues, so it comes with the territory. Never forget that events have a fucking shower clause, that it's needed speaks volumes.
There absolutely are women completely into every aspect of 40k, and that's great, but they're also a rarity. It just gets tiresome seeing nerd shit labeled as some weird "no girls allowed club" when that couldn't be further from the truth since only incel faggots would want to prevent women interested in the same shit they are, from participating in those hobbies. I suppose that might actually be happening more often in some groups these days because you can't simply call someone at the game store a dumb faggot anymore for going out of their way to drive off women. Kind of turns the whole thing into a self fulfilling prophecy sort of scenario if you think about it that way, because if you do call them out, you risk getting cancelled over it.
It's definitely exaggerated. It's not so much "no girls allowed" as much as "please don't change my thing" and "I never interacted with woman so it cramps my enjoyment with buddies". Nobody said it was going to be easy for all involved and it's part of living in A SOCIETY, as I see it, the disgusting neckbeards were there first, so it's not their job to make you feel welcome. It may suck, but it's how it is, because forcing the neckbeard to "behave" will probably have worse results in the long run. Things have mellowed out with time though and most neckbeards are desperate to meet women anyway, so I can see the issue being more the opposite where they end up being creepy (possibly without intent) due to the lack of social queues, but again, you went into the ogre's den, don't be surprised when you only find ogres.
Besides that, Robotech is called Trannytech for a reason
... what the ever living fuck did they do to Robotech? Was it because of the drag singer from Mospaeda?
The problem there is that for things to actually gain traction, players need a place to play(unless you want to make something VTT specific and just play it in tabletop sim or whatever). The lack of support from Privateer Press is the main reason that company has fallen apart. Can't get product onto shelves that stores can actually sell, when they haven't sold everything to their tiny playerbase, they don't have product to sell to stores. If a store can't make a profit, they aren't going to bother hosting events for it, let alone demo games or putting up displays. This is why OPR can't break out beyond the small circles it has, because no LGS has anything to gain by even acknowledging that it exists when they could be trying to sell a half dozen other games instead.
Big point there. It's why people end up playing what is in their area. I had already stopped buying anything GW since the tail end of 6th edition Fantasy, only came back with 9th because of the fucking chinkipox and the closest store only had GW games. Now that I have another store that is a lot more chill, I haven't touched 40K outside of trying 10th once and play a variety of games since the store is open to allowing anybody to play any system even if they don't carry it, but that's a huge rarity and I'm very aware of it. Most stores have very little incentive to support an OPR like system unless it's the owner's pet project.
Problem is, every time a 40K boycott is announced, it amounts to nothing at all. The next box set comes out, it's sold out within a matter of weeks, GW laughs all the way to the bank, and the boycott ends up being a farce.
GW fans are the most extreme embodiment of the battered housewife consoomer template.
Unfortunately, GW has no actual rival or competition that could give them a run for their money. You would need a line of products that consistently beats GW's in quality for cheaper prices, is more popular, and has better gameplay and support. That, and a fucking massive IP behind it. Even Star Wars and Marvel are fighting over the tablescraps left by GW without any further traction. What could beat it? One Piece? Warcraft/Starcraft if Blizzard wasn't shitting their pants at every turn? It requires an astronomical investment to compete against GW in the tabletop, and they know it.
Agreed, that in a lot of places it's GW or fucking nothing makes it hard to actually suffer real loses. Getting people to leave the GW plantation is always a nightmare, most times I've tried I've failed miserably.
That's because they went from "Lamer Tomb Kings, but in Space" to "Tomb Kings in Space and everyone is dementia-addled and fixated on grudges that have outlived suns".
Well, it was less Tomb Kings and more neon Terminator but they already had a whole race without personality traits and that was there to be a scary terror with the Nids and having another one seemed hard to swallow. I found the Necron change jarring, but certainly not nearly as insidious as other retcons that came later since honestly, they were just robot Tyranids from a theming standpoint before that.
Well said, it takes something far more substantial to harm GW. If Custodes sales go down I bet you grifters will be all like "Oh it was us! We complained about fem-Custodes so much people are listening to us! Subcribe to us because people are listening to what we have to say!" They need another End Times to mean anything at this point.
Grifters gonna grift.
 
That sounds like a nightmare, I get the appeal of the whole "shared universe" tempting people, but every single one operates on such a different wavelength and power scale, that's without getting into detail that there needs to be a very big excuse for most of them to not hate each other in a primordial level
Oh it def was, I recall the team was like 1 Mage, 3 Vamps (me included), 1 werewolf and 1 changeling. An the GM tried to have more combat than needed (cause he believed thats why the previous players dropped out), an it was like pulling teeth.
 
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