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why do larp airsoft niggas do this anyway?
Navy SEALs, Delta Force, and SOCOM general - The most "Special" groups in the U.S. Military
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They think it's cool. You might have a white-boy, unassuming, soy face, but put a black square or blur over their eyes, and it's mysterious and has mystique...
CIA operatives working surveillance in an unknown city...
jk
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Green Beret Chronicles gets fact checked
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Not sure about the headcount thing but it wouldn't be surprising with how dumb they are.
Maybe this guy. But they've had lots of crashes, so it could be someone else
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Incredible how well that works tbh
I'm guessing he's referring to Pete Blaber. Delta Force Officer who's written a ton of books.
Not sure about the headcount thing but it wouldn't be surprising with how dumb they are.
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Maybe this guy. But they've had lots of crashes, so it could be someone else
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To be honest, the most striking thing about the video was the Marine Corps officer letter. Anonymous. There's a time and place for being an anon, but reporting war crimes and misconduct is not.
I actually learned that from Don Shipley. He learned from the SEALs in Vietnam who trained him that wearing paint in the face (not for cammo) or balaclavas is used for that same purpose. Besides hiding the identity, it can buy an operator half a second to get the drop on a dude who is surprised/scared at the lack of recognizable facial features, instead of seeing a young, boy-faced dude.
(Example of face paint meant to scare. Don was a demo specialist, and the SEAL in the picture was his instructor on demo and booby-traps)
The actual fuck? Psychopath Jesse Boettcher is now showing he bit horses as hard as he could to "calm" them. What a sick fuck.
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kill airsofters behead airsofters
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I'd love for one of those horses to kick his ass straight into the afterlife.
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This is a correct take, thoughever.
I like this thread, but you keep fagging about with this performative outrage. A dixie flag here or a gay boomercon comment there is not really threadworthy and it cheapens the actually interesting stuff here. Case in point:
Even with context on who Boettcher is, why should I give a shit? This has nothing to do with SOCOM, take it to a thread about cruel equestrian practices. Your phrasing stinks of reddit with that unnecessary "What a sick fuck" -- if his behavior is sick, let it speak for itself. Doubly so for "Psychopath" -- Show me how he's a psychopath in relation to SOCOM'tardation, that's this thread for.
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Listen, newfag who joined in November 26 of 2023, you don't get to tell people how to use the thread or "what this thread is for" according to your arbitrary standards. If this thread is not to your liking, unironically make your own.
As for why should you care? It's because it speaks to the character of the people that were in the organization. If you don't find that relevant, don't read.
And one last thing, do enjoy this thread and the farms, but don't backseat moderate anymore. Thank you, and this conversation is finished.
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Yeah, and fuck all those guys in the Monkeyfuckers thread for being horrified by their treatment of animals. I'll be sure to shame them for typing in a way vaguely evocative of another website.
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I disagree as to what should be done with these guys once they get back. I say arm them and turn them loose on the war profiteers, WEF vermin and other scum who enrich themselves through the MIC.
Just think of how much brighter the Sun would shine if Klaus Schwab and his entire household turned up dead one morning.
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@The Delta Farce I've been reading Relentless strike by Sean Naylor. It's incredibly interesting, and I wish I had known of it sooner. It's going to delay a bit parts of the OP update, but thanks for the tip on it. Rumsfeld might deserve a special mention
What a fucking mess, the Battle of Robert's Ridge (Battle of Takur Ghar) was.
>Lose a SEAL and get a Chinook to crash while trying to insert into the top of a mountain with enemy fortifications (25 million dollars gone)
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>Order a group of Rangers in a Chinook to go to the top of a mountain with enemy fortifications
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>Crash it in the mountain from the heavy Machine gun fire. (Another 25 million gone. That hospital didn't need a new cancer ward anyway)
>Rangers almost get overwhelmed and mortared to oblivion.
>Predators with Hellfires save the day.
>Take your 7 dead and 12 wounded, and get back to base.
>Bomb the mountain again.
>Victory?
What a fucking mess, the Battle of Robert's Ridge (Battle of Takur Ghar) was.
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>Order a group of Rangers in a Chinook to go to the top of a mountain with enemy fortifications
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>Crash it in the mountain from the heavy Machine gun fire. (Another 25 million gone. That hospital didn't need a new cancer ward anyway)
>Rangers almost get overwhelmed and mortared to oblivion.
>Predators with Hellfires save the day.
>Take your 7 dead and 12 wounded, and get back to base.
>Bomb the mountain again.
>Victory?
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This is on my bookshelf and was recommended by a SOF coworker of mine. Might reach for it this weekend.
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The problem with your proposal is these human pitbulls are loyal killing machines for the WEF.
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I take it all back. Sean Naylor has a lot of facts, but his book after 9/11 becomes a mess. Unironically, you need a mind-map or a corkboard with all the names and people to keep track. He writes a lot of chapters in a weird chronological order, and the acronym salad is too much even for me.
Also, there's quite some SOF cock-gobbling, which is understandable. You don't create a 500-page book without some fascination on the subject, but when you publish phrases from interviews like "Whatever you think we are doing, we are. But also whatever you can't imagine we are doing, we also are." Bruh, that's just eating their propaganda at face-value.
Also, he sometimes reaches weird conclusions. Like at the end of the chapter of Takur Ghar, which was a disaster, he says that JSOC accomplished Patton's three principles of war "Audacity, audacity, audacity". And I get it what he's saying about the new type of operations, but if you are an objective observer, there is nothing audacious about losing 2 helis and 7 sof soldiers trying to take a mountain by landing on the top where there are fortified positions.
I would just keep the book for reference if you are looking for more details on specific events, not a comprehensive history.
Footage of John McPhee operating. At the start, he was recording telling an interpreter to threaten an Iraqi and his family, it would seem. Perhaps there is more context for this clip, but I dunno, since he ultimately got kicked out from Delta for abusing detainees, which, as the kids say, is not cool man.
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In fairness, most people couldn't imagine the GI Joe real American Hero SOF lunatics cooking up gay rape/murder schemes to cover up their petty theft scams, but we are where we are.
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Challenge, try to read this in one go and understand everything. It unironically reads like a fanfic where the author keeps adding pieces to the story out of nowhere. And most of the book after 9/11 is like this. I mean kudos to the author for gathering the info, but damn son, you could have helped the reader a bit.
As the violence spiraled ever higher, the task force strove to keep pace. By 2006, the “Unblinking Eye” concept that began with Delta’s A Squadron and a single Predator in early 2004 had reached full fruition. At Flynn’s direction, the task force aimed to have up to three ISR aircraft watching a target simultaneously. Indeed, it often had enough of such aircraft over Baghdad and the major cities in Anbar that when a car bomb went off, analysts could pull the video feeds from aircraft overhead and watch them in reverse, to trace the car’s route back to its start point. The dynamo that McChrystal and Flynn had built was now operating almost on automatic. In August 2004, the task force had conducted eighteen missions. In August 2006 it conducted more than 300. Strike forces now aimed to conduct the “analyze” and “disseminate” parts of the F3EAD process within an hour of coming off target. “McChrystal would say, ‘We have to operate at the speed of war,’” said a Ranger officer. “‘Faster, faster, faster.’”
The task force was growing. It routinely included a “white” Special Forces company that specialized in direct action missions. Each Special Forces group had such a company, called a combatant commander’s in-extremis force, or CIF (pronounced “siff”), because it was designed to give a regional combatant commander an on-call counterterrorist force in case the JSOC task force was unavailable. The CIFs, which had a training relationship with Delta, all rotated through Iraq in support of McChrystal’s task force. In 2006, McChrystal also gained an 82nd Airborne Division paratroop battalion, known as Task Force Falcon. With its reinforcements thrown into the fray, his task force continued its furious pace through the fall. But one of its most notable fights was a defensive one. On November 27, a daytime air-vehicle interdiction mission targeting an Al Qaeda in Iraq foreign fighter facilitator went awry when an RPG downed an AH-6 between Taji and Lake Tharthar about fifty kilometers northwest of Baghdad. (The assault force was en route to a larger site in the desert to wait for the target’s vehicle when this happened.)
Outnumbered and outgunned by insurgents who arrived in truck after truck, the assault force found itself with no shelter in the flat desert. The force’s remaining AH-6, piloted by CW5 Dave Cooper, did much to hold them off, repeatedly strafing the insurgents. Cooper was credited with turning the tide of the battle, and later received a Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts. The ground force remained at the site until darkness, but tragedy struck when an F-16 supporting the embattled force flew too low and crashed, killing its pilot.
Other raids that month focused on Ansar al-Sunnah, a Kurdish-led Islamist group that was allied with, but not formally part of, Al Qaeda in Iraq. The Coalition’s efforts to reconcile some Sunni insurgent groups, thus isolating Al Qaeda in Iraq, included an effort to divide Ansar al-Sunnah from AQI. But although JSOC (and much of the rest of the U.S. national security community) had focused almost exclusively on Iraq’s Sunni insurgency, in particular on Al Qaeda in Iraq, since 2004, a different threat was emerging. Arguably a greater threat to U.S. forces and interests in the region than Iraq’s Sunni insurgency, it was an enemy that would hark back to JSOC’s birth, but for which its Iraq task force was singularly unprepared: Iran."
The task force was growing. It routinely included a “white” Special Forces company that specialized in direct action missions. Each Special Forces group had such a company, called a combatant commander’s in-extremis force, or CIF (pronounced “siff”), because it was designed to give a regional combatant commander an on-call counterterrorist force in case the JSOC task force was unavailable. The CIFs, which had a training relationship with Delta, all rotated through Iraq in support of McChrystal’s task force. In 2006, McChrystal also gained an 82nd Airborne Division paratroop battalion, known as Task Force Falcon. With its reinforcements thrown into the fray, his task force continued its furious pace through the fall. But one of its most notable fights was a defensive one. On November 27, a daytime air-vehicle interdiction mission targeting an Al Qaeda in Iraq foreign fighter facilitator went awry when an RPG downed an AH-6 between Taji and Lake Tharthar about fifty kilometers northwest of Baghdad. (The assault force was en route to a larger site in the desert to wait for the target’s vehicle when this happened.)
Outnumbered and outgunned by insurgents who arrived in truck after truck, the assault force found itself with no shelter in the flat desert. The force’s remaining AH-6, piloted by CW5 Dave Cooper, did much to hold them off, repeatedly strafing the insurgents. Cooper was credited with turning the tide of the battle, and later received a Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts. The ground force remained at the site until darkness, but tragedy struck when an F-16 supporting the embattled force flew too low and crashed, killing its pilot.
Other raids that month focused on Ansar al-Sunnah, a Kurdish-led Islamist group that was allied with, but not formally part of, Al Qaeda in Iraq. The Coalition’s efforts to reconcile some Sunni insurgent groups, thus isolating Al Qaeda in Iraq, included an effort to divide Ansar al-Sunnah from AQI. But although JSOC (and much of the rest of the U.S. national security community) had focused almost exclusively on Iraq’s Sunni insurgency, in particular on Al Qaeda in Iraq, since 2004, a different threat was emerging. Arguably a greater threat to U.S. forces and interests in the region than Iraq’s Sunni insurgency, it was an enemy that would hark back to JSOC’s birth, but for which its Iraq task force was singularly unprepared: Iran."
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It makes sense when you realize his sources were people like Jeff Tiegs jerking themsleves off. Have you gotten to the part where B Squadron has a ton of people get shot by like 6 insurgents on a raid while trying to fire and manouever in a field? So much for having a basic infantry background.
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I'm trying to digest it in pieces. It has so much info that I have no idea about that it takes a while. I try to find pieces of history I know and work from there. This is from the chapter "Snake eyes" where Horrigan and McNulty got shot. A couple of things of note. It says that they were B-squadron when they were clearly C-squadron, so that's a mistake, or VanSant forgot his squadron letter. And LMAO at McChrystal doing damage control by saying they assaulted a "fortified enemy position" like it was an actual bunker, when Delta just run Leeeeroy Jenkins into a machine-gun in a hallway.
In a May 31 raid on what McChrystal described as “a fortified enemy position” in Al Qaim, Sergeant First Class Steven Langmack became the first Delta operator killed in action in more than two years when small arms fire struck him down. The thirty-three-year-old Special Forces communications sergeant had only joined Delta the previous year. McChrystal’s reference to the “fortified enemy position” is instructive. The insurgents were getting wise to Delta’s tactics and were strong-pointing their safe houses in expectation of task force raids. Two and a half weeks later, B Squadron operators assaulted another house in Al Qaim, unaware the insurgents had built a bunker inside it. A volley of automatic weapons fire met the operators as they stormed in, killing Master Sergeants Bob Horrigan and Michael McNulty. The assault team withdrew and called in an air strike on the building, but the damage to the unit’s sense of invincibility had been done.
The June 17 assault marked the first time that Delta had lost more than one operator on a mission since Mogadishu. The three “deaths hit the unit like a shudder,” McChrystal wrote. The loss of Horrigan was a particularly tough blow. “That rocked a lot of guys,” said a Delta source. Hugely respected and well liked in Delta, among Horrigan’s many exploits was his infiltration of Afghanistan’s Shahikot Valley as a member of AFO’s India Team during Operation Anaconda. A former Ranger and Special Forces soldier, the forty-year-old Horrigan was on his last combat deployment, due to retire in a matter of months to focus on his booming custom knife-making business.
The June 17 assault marked the first time that Delta had lost more than one operator on a mission since Mogadishu. The three “deaths hit the unit like a shudder,” McChrystal wrote. The loss of Horrigan was a particularly tough blow. “That rocked a lot of guys,” said a Delta source. Hugely respected and well liked in Delta, among Horrigan’s many exploits was his infiltration of Afghanistan’s Shahikot Valley as a member of AFO’s India Team during Operation Anaconda. A former Ranger and Special Forces soldier, the forty-year-old Horrigan was on his last combat deployment, due to retire in a matter of months to focus on his booming custom knife-making business.
If you know the chapter of the B-squadron guys getting shot It'd help. Also, sorry he died but lol at "... the forty-year-old Horrigan was on his last combat deployment, due to retire in a matter of months to focus on his booming custom knife-making business." being a cliché
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Apparently even other older operators who served with Horrigan weren't told the truth that it was just one insurgent standing in the room with an AK.
Sorry I don't remember the chapter number. It was a daylight vehicle interdiction that turned into a building assault. The B Squadron commander ended up getting fired for exposing them to too much risk. Which seems unfair to me because your elite commandos should be able to do some basic battle drills and handle a handful of insurgents even if it isn't night.
The big thing that sticks out to me is how overworked the helicopter pilots are. And the maintainers who never sleep. There aren't enough of them to begin with and they are constantly having to fly into shit to save Delta, Rangers, and SF's asses.
There's also a very corpo mindset of meeting an arbitrary number of operations conducted regardless of the effect those operations are having.
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At 1 hour 12 minutes, when Jesse talks about the infamous C-deployment where they got 60% Purple Hearts. According to Jesse, the version is different from Relentless Strike, and I believe him. In the Book, it says after Mike and Bob got shot, they withdrew and called an airstrike. But Jesse says he pulled Bob out, threw a thermobaric, and the 4 dudes in the house ran away, and got killed by Rangers in a blocking position.
It's not a huge detail, but it just makes me wonder what else Sean Naylor missed, if he already confused the squadrons (C with B) and the way the assault ended up then is he that trustworthy? If he doesn't have those details squared away, what else might he have missed or got misinformed on? It would seem the book was churned a bit, given its writing, tbh.
Still kinda surprised at the way Jesse is smiling when he tells his story, when he's shooting fluorescent lights, for example. He seems to have had fun from the way he tells it.
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