Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Procrastinhater]

alt right reddit/tumblr

Ah yes reddit, that notorious hotbed of Conservative and Alt Right discourse...

Thats a new one at least. Alt Right Tumblr JfC.

Sorry you have to go through this bullshit.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

Ah yes reddit, that notorious hotbed of Conservative and Alt Right discourse...

Thats a new one at least. Alt Right Tumblr JfC.

Sorry you have to go through this bullshit.

It's absurd. It's because instead of accepting the hard truth, that sometimes people change their minds based off of new relevant experience and information, they can write me off as a crazy wamen who has such a feeble mind a few reddit memes and some ugly fetish dudes managed to convince me all trans people should be gunned down in the streets for even breathing, or something.

In reality it's because I met several of these genderspecials, in person and online. Got attacked for asking any relevant questions and researched it further on my own to decide oh wow, maybe this is actually a big problem and not the best for women, after all.

 

[rotdoggy]

I've lurked a lot rather than participating in discussion because all of this is rather depressing. Seeing some posts from three or so pages ago has reminded me of a few things, however. Every single lesbian I've ever known, bar the few radical feminists I met semi-recently, pooned out. With no exception. Every single individual I considered a friend and someone who could understand me, as a fellow GNC lesbian, drank the koolaid and never looked back. It's heartbreaking. Lesbians are a dying breed and young gay men, especially effeminate ones, are falling into it hard as well.

One in particular I reconnected with after losing contact for a few years. She told me she hated the LGBT centers on the east coast because they had TERFs everywhere. She also told me she was forcing herself to get used to heterosexual hentai because she was a "man" now. I dropped contact and haven't spoken with her since. I know what mindset goes into that, having been deep in it myself, and I'm very sympathetic. But not even at my most groomed did I ever blindly hate TERFs. I don't know if those lesbians have any hope of returning to normal. Even the femme I was close with a long time ago considered herself as an "other" gender because of her lesbianism. A straight couple I know considers themselves lesbians now because the man is a troon. They constantly shove themselves into gay jokes when they're the furthest from gay you can possibly get.

In all, I've little hope of dating, let alone making gay friends with the way things currently are. Pretending to be in the cult is exhausting as it is.

If not outright pooning/trooning/cooming/gooning themselves, a lot of gays are just blindly supportive. It's difficult to know who you can trust. I still can't broach the subject with my brother, and thus he continues to consider himself bisexual. Despite very clearly being homosexual. He refers to his new partner as "she" when it's obviously a man.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

I've lurked a lot rather than participating in discussion because all of this is rather depressing. Seeing some posts from three or so pages ago has reminded me of a few things, however. Every single lesbian I've ever known, bar the few radical feminists I met semi-recently, pooned out. With no exception. Every single individual I considered a friend and someone who could understand me, as a fellow GNC lesbian, drank the koolaid and never looked back. It's heartbreaking. Lesbians are a dying breed and young gay men, especially effeminate ones, are falling into it hard as well.

One in particular I reconnected with after losing contact for a few years. She told me she hated the LGBT centers on the east coast because they had TERFs everywhere. She also told me she was forcing herself to get used to heterosexual hentai because she was a "man" now. I dropped contact and haven't spoken with her since. I know what mindset goes into that, having been deep in it myself, and I'm very sympathetic. But not even at my most groomed did I ever blindly hate TERFs. I don't know if those lesbians have any hope of returning to normal. Even the femme I was close with a long time ago considered herself as an "other" gender because of her lesbianism. A straight couple I know considers themselves lesbians now because the man is a troon. They constantly shove themselves into gay jokes when they're the furthest from gay you can possibly get.

In all, I've little hope of dating, let alone making gay friends with the way things currently are. Pretending to be in the cult is exhausting as it is.

If not outright pooning/trooning/cooming/gooning themselves, a lot of gays are just blindly supportive. It's difficult to know who you can trust. I still can't broach the subject with my brother, and thus he continues to consider himself bisexual. Despite very clearly being homosexual. He refers to his new partner as "she" when it's obviously a man.

You have my sympathy. Its weird, in my circumstance my mom was lesbian and abusive to me (she hated men, and I'm male), so, I definitely have primed up mentality TO have issues with lesbians, but increasingly, pooning out, lesbian spaces being invaded by troons, rape threats, death threats, and absolute vile shit towards "terf" girls makes me increasingly feel more and more sympathetic. Still bothers me when I see misandry to an extent, but its also a little easier to understand.

You seem to indicate you came close to pooning out yourself (possibly)? I feel similar, in at least that I got so damn primed to hate masculinity from my mother that honestly the only reason I DIDN'T troon out in my early teens is it was never presented as an option. I realize hearing sympathetic words from a man, to a lesbian, probably isn't you're preferred response, but I felt like you can use a reply regardless, and to know you aren't entirely alone.

I will say, just about anywhere on the farms people will hear out and agree with your lamentations of the trans lunacy, so at least here you can vent about it without bullshit.

Also, you can feel free to dm if you want : its up to you but you sound a tad at wits end so, if you want to just rant to someone who will listen, I can offer at least that.

 

[rotdoggy]

You have my sympathy. Its weird, in my circumstance my mom was lesbian and abusive to me (she hated men, and I'm male), so, I definitely have primed up mentality TO have issues with lesbians, but increasingly, pooning out, lesbian spaces being invaded by troons, rape threats, death threats, and absolute vile shit towards "terf" girls makes me increasingly feel more and more sympathetic. Still bothers me when I see misandry to an extent, but its also a little easier to understand.

You seem to indicate you came close to pooning out yourself (possibly)? I feel similar, in at least that I got so damn primed to hate masculinity from my mother that honestly the only reason I DIDN'T troon out in my early teens is it was never presented as an option. I realize hearing sympathetic words from a man, to a lesbian, probably isn't you're preferred response, but I felt like you can use a reply regardless, and to know you aren't entirely alone.

I will say, just about anywhere on the farms people will hear out and agree with your lamentations of the trans lunacy, so at least here you can vent about it without bullshit.

Also, you can feel free to dm if you want : its up to you but you sound a tad at wits end so, if you want to just rant to someone who will listen, I can offer at least that.

I grew up with an abusive (heterosexual) man-hater for a mother, so to some extent I can understand and I'm sorry you had to grow up around someone that terrible. I've seen the damage it did to my brother, and it's certainly done damage to me. In different ways, granted. It's a complicated thing and power-leveling too much for the boards. I don't understand the misandry very well myself (outside of jokes and retarded rants anyway), but many of my most trusted friends are men, so.

At the end of the day we're all just people, and LGBs are people who just happen to like the same sex. It's a simple thing to grasp that's been muddied to the point of incomprehension. It made navigating my sexuality as a teenager hell. Lesbians are non-men who like non-men, gays are men who like men, but sometimes nonbinaries can mean you're some different sexuality and sometimes it means you're still gay. The queerism of homosexuality and bisexuality - embracing being an actual degenerate as "edgy" and cool and equivalent to mere sexual orientation - does nothing but divide us as a whole. Sure, similar life experiences matter and we as humans love to fit into little groups, but whether you're a man or not matters little in this kind of conversation. You're able to give a different viewpoint I wouldn't otherwise be able to see, and vice versa. To put the incoherent sperging aside and TL;DR, I appreciate it a lot. Seriously.

I did nearly poon out, and it was actually this website and a trusted friend that ultimately got me out of the hole. As a young'un I got groomed by tranny and pooner adults alike. Without very good role models for parents and with a lot of problems at home, you wind up being prime pickings for those types. I hated being female, I hated my body, and I hated being associated with my mother in any capacity. The adults wanted to talk about my "bottom dysphoria" and their kinks. Later on, they continued to target my insecurities as proof I must be transgender. I believed it because I was stupid and not mentally well. It's still something I struggle with from time to time, but accepting the narrative as false has helped me from falling back in. No, trannies aren't women. They can never be women. It's disgusting the ones I knew hit on me and asked me out knowing very well I was a lesbian. Those are predators, and I've yet to meet a man who's anywhere near as insidious. In fact, men are often the ones who understand how ridiculous this whole thing is and are less afraid to say it.

Thus, I despise the trans movement and everything to do with it. I hide it to keep my social life from crumbling, but there are very few things that piss me off more than what these people do to the mentally ill, autists, children; anyone vulnerable, really.

I wouldn't be surprised if my brother's reason for leaning into nonbinaryism is similar to what you went through too, given all that. It's unfortunate that he's discovering himself now, in the midst of trannyism being at its worst. It was bad when I was young, but at least mostly kept to nonbinaries in youth GSA clubs and groomer nerd circles online... Now you can't really escape it. But I'm glad this place is one of the few sane ones left.

 

[The Noise]

This is pretty minor compared to the stories of people losing close friends, husbands, wives, etc. in here, but I knew a girl in middle school who started off perfectly content in her gender, but by the end of 7th-8th grade was full-on super deep into trans culture. We used to hang out and shoot the shit in class and at recess, as middle school kids do, but I eventually just stopped talking to her entirely because all she wanted to discuss how gay/trans she was and how me and a male friend of mine should get together because she wanted more LGBTQ friends. I told her multiple times we were straight but she kept pushing it to an uncomfortable degree.

Want to say she eventually outgrew it but last I heard she's now 100% transgender, new name and everything. I imagine it was exacerbated by the fact that her parents were divorced and old and just didn't give a shit about the identity crisis their daughter was clearly suffering. It was a little surreal getting to watch the whole shebang happen in real time when you usually only see the end result on here.

 

[LimeRikki]

Of course I took one of my younger sister's skirts, put the waistband around my face, and ran around with it. The skirt was a grey jersey material, but with the power of imagination it could be my giant skin flap that I used to scare off predators while I ran around like crazy.

This is too cute. This story brightened up my morning, its so adorable, thank you for sharing!

She should have taken just her eyeliner and asked the kid where he wanted her to start drawing tattoos

Marker (eyeliner is expensive and harder to clean off) but this is such a great idea for a mom/ kid bonding activity!

Thread tax: Without going into too much detail, a friend is slowly transitioning her child. Right now, its starting with just dresses and skirts and non binary but I think the only thing that's holding her back from getting this kid on puberty blockers is her husband telling her "wait until he's 16".

I cannot say anything or even raise a single point of concern without it destroying this friendship because she's so progressive.

I've decided to hang around and be neutral and if things ever reverse direction, she'll have someone to talk to that isn't gonna dump her for "detransing" her kid.

Edit: typo

 

[Aunt Carol]

Marker (eyeliner is expensive and harder to clean off) but this is such a great idea for a mom/ kid bonding activity!

The only caveat with using marker on a kid's skin is you have taught them an amazing thing: markers can be used on skin! Children have no goddamn clue where their swim goggles went from yesterday, but now they will marker on themselves forever.

I swear the only thing different about the "tattoo markers" they sell is the labeling; it's like "monster under the bed spray." "No, Braxxton, only these special tattoo markers work."

But more on topic, and back to my being a desisted frilled lizard as well as the poor kid who liked Moana: kids are learning about the entire world and they'll use whatever physical items are around them in the process. If wearing a skirt/dress = trans to a parent, it's basically entrapment to show a little boy Moana or Brave or anything about Ancient Rome.

When a kid gives you a piece of paper with bizarre scribbles, you have to ask them to tell you about the picture. You can pretend it's modern art read into it anything you want, but the kid knows that this is a picture of Donald Duck in a fireman's jacket. Kids have more skill at improvised cosplay than they do hand-eye coordination for drawing, but you can't assume you know how their brain works.

I cannot say anything or even raise a single point of concern without it destroying this friendship because she's so progressive.

I've decided to hang around and be neutral and if things ever reverse direction, she'll have someone to talk to that isn't gonna dump her for "detransing" her kid.

We gotta find whoever came up with "Indigo Children" and help them brainstorm a new and exciting label that shows your kid is special and you're a great mom for noticing it. It's going to be "trans" until something better comes along, or unless you're lucky enough to have a kid with a chronic illness. One of those cool chronic illnesses, though; if it's just boring old autism, all that's good for is a ticket on the trans train.

 

[umami's milk]

Alt Right Tumblr JfC.

Believe or not there IS a chunk of right-wing (or anti-sjws that occasional reblog rw opinions) tumblr users living just under tumblr's skin. They're never very popular, but they're tight-knit and numerous.

 

[UncleTusky]

Reset the clock, someone else I know has trooned out

Spoiler: Sometimes it's the ones you most expect

About 10-15 years ago, I sometimes hung out with a friend of a friend. We'll call him Jack because this place could probably dox me based on Jack's real + troon names alone. Jack was odd, most likely on the spectrum, but friendly and pleasant. Despite being in his late teens he had a genuine love for Pokemon (ok, let's change that to definitely on the spectrum) that I found endearing. He also wasn't stupid - he ended up getting an engineering degree despite his eccentricities.

Apart from being mildly autistic John was extremely liberal and had difficulty tolerating differing opinions. This resulted in him only lasting ~1-2 years at most jobs he held and these issues became severe during Covid - he literally believed that indefinite lockdowns wouldn't hurt anything besides megacorps' profit margins and anyone who opposed lockdowns/masks/vaccines was acting maliciously. Especially Donald Trump. Whatever your opinions on Covid and Trump might be, I hope we can agree a fat, balding autist should not be the sole arbiter of truth.

You can probably see where this is going by now - autistic, professional life is a mess, lived online thanks to Covid, wants an ideological hugbox........ yup, you guessed it, Jack trooned out not too long ago and picked 'Jasmine' for his troon name. Not something that sorta-kinda sounds like his real name like Jane or Jennifer, he went all out & picked a stripper name. If you successfully guessed that he was going to troon out, you can probably guess what happened next as well: He made a post on Facebook that you could summarize with 'I'm a True and Honest Woman, get with the program or get out' and took pride in people unfriending him over it.

Fuck, I don't care if I'm too old for Pokemon, I just wish Jack were his old self so he could sperg about it with me.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Believe or not there IS a chunk of right-wing (or anti-sjws that occasional reblog rw opinions) tumblr users living just under tumblr's skin. They're never very popular, but they're tight-knit and numerous.

Holy shit Chaos Theory was right.

 

[LimeRikki]

Believe or not there IS a chunk of right-wing (or anti-sjws that occasional reblog rw opinions) tumblr users living just under tumblr's skin. They're never very popular, but they're tight-knit and numerous.

There used to be way more of them during the anti sjw heyday, a lot of them have converted to shitposting now. When it comes to the trans issue, they tend to be solidly split and have either gone full gender critical or fully embraced troon ideology.

 

[skibidi biden]

drugs + autism are a common theme with troons I have noticed

i really do not want to powerlevel, but my one IRL friend's uncle became a tranny bodybuilder after taking too much trenbolone and losing his marbles from steroid psychosis


my other old best friend discovered gender after abusing THC and psychedelics and to this day i lament what happened to him


i watched a schizo documentary The Net about an event known as the macy conferences which and how frankfurt marxists like adorno were hired by the cia for "cybernetics" and mind control purposes, and determined that LSD was suitable for making people intrinsically less fascistic, and after the LSD experiments at Harvard Ted Kaczynski DID in fact have a trans phase

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/09/12/gender-confusion-sex-change-idea-fueled-kaczynskis-rage-report-say

i have noticed A LOT of troons who learned the meaning of gender after taking acid and it seems absolutely fucking batshit to postulate the idea that frankfurt marxists helped MKultra and a side effect of reprogramming them with LSD is gender but seeing so many people I know drop acid and going trans has made me almost believe it

like this one who took acid and transitioned and began talking about feeling "as one with the bacteria in his colon"

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

drugs + autism are a common theme with troons I have noticed

i really do not want to powerlevel, but my one IRL friend's uncle became a tranny bodybuilder after taking too much trenbolone and losing his marbles from steroid psychosis


my other old best friend discovered gender after abusing THC and psychedelics and to this day i lament what happened to him


i watched a schizo documentary The Net about an event known as the macy conferences which and how frankfurt marxists like adorno were hired by the cia for "cybernetics" and mind control purposes, and determined that LSD was suitable for making people intrinsically less fascistic, and after the LSD experiments at Harvard Ted Kaczynski DID in fact have a trans phase

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/09/12/gender-confusion-sex-change-idea-fueled-kaczynskis-rage-report-say

i have noticed A LOT of troons who learned the meaning of gender after taking acid and it seems absolutely fucking batshit to postulate the idea that frankfurt marxists helped MKultra and a side effect of reprogramming them with LSD is gender but seeing so many people I know drop acid and going trans has made me almost believe it

like this one who took acid and transitioned and began talking about feeling "as one with the bacteria in his colon"

I think the legalization of weed in the USA also had a very negative cultural impact.

That stuff makes people gullible and open for reprograming, mote so naive nerds who consume it and then spend all day engaging in escapism alone. Since it became legal its being used by a lot of demographics who would never even come close to touch it when it was illegal, the kind of people who go to weed stores that also sell funko pops and rick and morty merch.

 

[Kerr Avon]

like this one who took acid and transitioned and began talking about feeling "as one with the bacteria in his colon"

Troon self awareness

 

[SIMIΔN]

My brother definitely is, but unfortunately my mom lives very near me as I moved to the area to be closer to family, after they moved here. I typically don't like the modern idea of being so eager to cut family off for any little thing, so I've been pretty hesitant. Unfortunately it looks like I'll have to draw the line here though.

wouldn't suggest cutting your mom off completely.

Yep, the mother is recently widowed and is being manipulated by her son, shunning her would be cruel and counterproductive

One of my longtime online friends (F) married a woman, then her narc wife pooned out and their lives are a miserable, degenerate shitshow.

Fuck! It's easy to forget Pooning isn't always an attempt to escape aggressive male lust.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

attempt to escape aggressive male lust.

If that was as common as people claim it is then grindr wouldn't be full of pooners asking men to rail them. Yet the "gay" pooners are as common as the transbian equivalent.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Fuck, I don't care if I'm too old for Pokemon, I just wish Jack were his old self so he could sperg about it with me.

There's so many Pokeautists to troon pipeline it's unreal. I saw Big Yellow's troonout arc coming and had to unsubscribe even if it's hard to find autism you enjoy. We have a grief/not always griefing thread in the games section if that would help, but I feel.

i have noticed A LOT of troons who learned the meaning of gender after taking acid and it seems absolutely fucking batshit to postulate the idea that frankfurt marxists helped MKultra and a side effect of reprogramming them with LSD is gender but seeing so many people I know drop acid and going trans has made me almost believe it

Psychedelics are a good way to unlock any latent mental illness in general. Doctors warn people who have a history of mental illness, especially schizophrenia, to not touch weed so they wouldn't risk it. I don't know how similar LSD works but I wouldn't be surprised if the part of thr brain that it kicked knocked down some similar or the same but more pillars.

I think the legalization of weed in the USA also had a very negative cultural impact.

I think the strengthening of weed is worse. The stronger it gets, the more trouble it will open up for normal and abnormal people. In 10-20 years I think we'll have much better warning labels about it, or hope so. Weed itself isn't bad, but the uninformed can get hit hard and the long term consequences aren't as studdied on, so we'll be in for some surprises.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

Yep, the mother is recently widowed and is being manipulated by her son, shunning her would be cruel and counterproductive

Fuck! It's easy to forget Pooning isn't always an attempt to escape aggressive male lust.

Sorry I should've mentioned, they were divorced for a few years so she is not widowed.

Update: my little brother is now attempting to gaslight me. Apparently according to him my brother left before any violence occurred. Despite my older brother openly admitting to it in a prior screenshot. I guess my entire family is this fucked up.

 

[skibidi biden]

There's so many Pokeautists to troon pipeline it's unreal. I saw Big Yellow's troonout arc coming and had to unsubscribe even if it's hard to find autism you enjoy. We have a grief/not always griefing thread in the games section if that would help, but I feel.



Psychedelics are a good way to unlock any latent mental illness in general. Doctors warn people who have a history of mental illness, especially schizophrenia, to not touch weed so they wouldn't risk it. I don't know how similar LSD works but I wouldn't be surprised if the part of thr brain that it kicked knocked down some similar or the same but more pillars.


I think the strengthening of weed is worse. The stronger it gets, the more trouble it will open up for normal and abnormal people. In 10-20 years I think we'll have much better warning labels about it, or hope so. Weed itself isn't bad, but the uninformed can get hit hard and the long term consequences aren't as studdied on, so we'll be in for some surprises.

i have studied a lot of neuroscience for my degree and basically lysergic acid works like serotonin and shuts down a part of the brain called the default mode network, which to oversimplify controls a lot of the preconceived notions of self and how the self can empathize and rate to others

LSD turning off the DMN and claustrom, part of the brain that acts as a circuit board for neurons, and rewiring neuron pathways is what hypothetically would cause the troonism

as someone who had to get off of weed and all drugs from having a psychotic episode amd health scares from super high potency THC, i can attest to the fact that super high potency wax and vapes are far worse than natural leaf that may have been available 50 years ago