Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[AMHOLIO]

Were all aristocrats homosexual men, no.

. They were at least fags if not.

 

[Aunt Carol]

OK, so get this. I asked her when this started, and she said it was after he started religiously watching Moana. I'm pretty sure every character in that movie, including the Rock, wears a grass skirt. From there, he decided he would try to wear his younger sisters small dresses as a sort of skirt.

When I was a little kid, I saw a frilled lizard in a nature documentary on PBS. Of course I took one of my younger sister's skirts, put the waistband around my face, and ran around with it. The skirt was a grey jersey material, but with the power of imagination it could be my giant skin flap that I used to scare off predators while I ran around like crazy.


This was decades ago, before the Internet, and I'm a woman, but ultimately my point is that your friend is a dumbass and an asshole.

Even years out, Moana costumes and character pajamas abound, as well as no-name grass skirts and leaf skirts like Maui. It's springtime now so there are even fake grass skirts in kid sizes at Dollar Tree; not a huge investment for something the kid was having fun with. Mom took 2+2 and made 500 that he wants to be a girl.

She should have taken just her eyeliner and asked the kid where he wanted her to start drawing tattoos.

 

[Procrastinhater]

When I was a little kid, I saw a frilled lizard in a nature documentary on PBS. Of course I took one of my younger sister's skirts, put the waistband around my face, and ran around with it. The skirt was a grey jersey material, but with the power of imagination it could be my giant skin flap that I used to scare off predators while I ran around like crazy.

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This was decades ago, before the Internet, and I'm a woman, but ultimately my point is that your friend is a dumbass and an asshole.

Even years out, Moana costumes and character pajamas abound, as well as no-name grass skirts and leaf skirts like Maui. It's springtime now so there are even fake grass skirts in kid sizes at Dollar Tree; not a huge investment for something the kid was having fun with. Mom took 2+2 and made 500 that he wants to be a girl.

She should have taken just her eyeliner and asked the kid where he wanted her to start drawing tattoos.
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I mentioned this before but my youngest daughter thought she was a Velociraptor for about a week after I showed her the first Jurassic Park movie.
Going by Troon logic I should have moved her into a pen in the back yard surrounded by a fucking electric fence and started to feed my heccin' valid Velocidaughter raw meat.
Fortunately for her I'm a bigot not a fucking Munchausens by Proxy psychopathic virtue signaller.

 

[Mexican Molotov Marauder]

I mentioned this before but my youngest daughter thought she was a Velociraptor for about a week after I showed her the first Jurassic Park movie.
Going by Troon logic I should have moved her into a pen in the back yard surrounded by a fucking electric fence and started to feed my heccin' valid Velocidaughter raw meat.
Fortunately for her I'm a bigot not a fucking Munchausens by Proxy psychopathic virtue signaller.

At age 3 I was alternating between wanting to be Batman and Michael Knight, depending on which one I saw last on TV. The idea that we should take the stupid shit kids say seriously, like their more or less empty brains aren't currently in the process of being filled up with information is really wild to me.

 

[expectant asshole]

Do you still want to beat up mentally ill men in make up? Then Batman was always your true identity. It’s Batmanphobic to say otherwise.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Do you still want to beat up mentally ill men in make up? Then Batman was always your true identity. It’s Batmanphobic to say otherwise.

When 1/3rd of all troons somehow end up looking like poorly made clowns, you know we need a new hero. Someone we need, but don't deserve.

Embrace your inner fursuit @Mexican Molotov Marauder and become the night. Screech autistically in echolocation to find and beat the shit out of autogynophiles, and swoop down with wings made of bedsheets and the grand sonichu medallion for extra protection.

 

[Lavender Moth]

The kid is a little boy, he does not have to be gay in anyway, in the 1800s it was the norm for aristocrats to dress their male babies in dresses.

This was still popular into the early 1900's, believe it or not. I have old family photos of my late grandpa as a 1-2 year old (he was born in the late 1910's) dressed in those frilly little getups. He grew up to be a hardcore military man, staunch Republican, and father to eight lmao.

OK, so get this. I asked her when this started, and she said it was after he started religiously watching Moana. I'm pretty sure every character in that movie, including the Rock, wears a grass skirt. From there, he decided he would try to wear his younger sisters small dresses as a sort of skirt.

This is just normal child behavior and it breaks my heart that she's doing this to him.

To add to the hilarious "I was a GNC child before troonism" tales: My childhood pals and I were doing DeviantArt OC's before DeviantArt even existed. My Super Cool OC was called "Super Cat" and he was basically just Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon mixed with Razor from Swat Katz (two shows I loved at the time). My friend would pretend to be a cat princess named "Crystal" and we would LARP in the junkyard behind her house that I was her cat prince in shining armor saving her from certain peril. Kids ain't dumb -- we knew we weren't actually "Super Cat & Crystal" and that we were actually just two little girls playing with old two by fours and trash cans, but kids also have powerful imaginations, and because of that, that shit was FUN. Those are easily some of my best memories, and I ache for kids like this, whose childhood and future is being corrupted by troons. They're not going to be able to look back on these comical, innocent, and altogether NORMAL aspects of childhood with the fondness that I'm able to; they're going to look back and ask their parents, "why did you hurt me over this?" And I don't think a single parent is going to have a decent answer to that.

 

[NoReturn]

Not nearly as heavy as most of you are dealing with itt, but maybe it will make you all laugh:
I'm now up to three different individuals who have said some variation of "I knew I was trans when __________" and I've managed each to tell them other non-trans people do _____ too without getting my ass beat. Wish me luck with my streak.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

Courtesy of my troon brother - sent on TDOV with an entire essay on how I invalidated him by calling him male and nobody has ever hurt him so bad, so it's a-okay he pulled my shirt and pulled a fist on me

Courtesy of my loving and caring mom, recently
This is what I'm dealing with -_-

 

[melty]

I'll not shit up this thread with any more updates as this is for my friend and her family to deal with. But I found a crack in the armor when I took the misogyny angle. While not directly related to her son, the downfall of this cult is that it's so sprawling you can penetrate it from any angle. That was enough to get her to concede questioning is not transphobic, so hopefully the seeds take root.

I'm glad you're helping your friends kid out. However this is why I am not friends with morons. They do stupid stuff and fuck up their life and can't figure their shit out. They fall for every brand new retard belief they come across on tiktok. It's exhausting and frustrating to deal with and it doesn't stop. I don't think I could be friends with a moron with kids. I would probably want to beat her to death for being too fucking stupid and running her kids life with her stupidity. Does not sound like there is a dad in the picture, quelle surprise. You should keep us updated though, this kind of thing is what the threads for and it's a good story.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

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Courtesy of my troon brother - sent on TDOV with an entire essay on how I invalidated him by calling him male and nobody has ever hurt him so bad, so it's a-okay he pulled my shirt and pulled a fist on me
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Courtesy of my loving and caring mom, recently
This is what I'm dealing with -_-

You unironically need to cut them out. It's hard, it isn't fun, but are they worth keeping in your life? Do they do anything that brings something good to your life?
Fuck those people.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Do you still want to beat up mentally ill men in make up? Then Batman was always your true identity. It’s Batmanphobic to say otherwise.

I wanted to be Mike Hammer when I was 4. Look at me now.

 

[Stupid Lisa Garbageface]

This isn't as painful as a lot of the stories here since I haven't spoken to this person in years, but I had a dream last night about a high school friend who now identifies as male. It was some goofy irrelevant dream nonsense but I hadn't thought about her in a long time, so I woke up sad.

She was a Lord of the Rings-loving, witchy, bookwormy kind of girl, and never once in the four years I knew her did she express the remotest interest in anything masculine. She had a very difficult relationship with her parents, was always a little shy, and has been overweight her entire life so I guess these days that adds up to a trans man. I checked in on her Instagram and she said she was happy she's gained enough confidence to start wearing makeup again, as it no longer bothers her that it makes people perceive her as female. Her hobby is crocheting little animals. She's trying to lose weight to get approval for surgery, but has apparently plateaued. I can't believe I'm hoping she fails so that she doesn't get her tits lopped off or god FORBID a rotdog installed.

This sweet, naive, lost soul is getting shredded in the gnashing teeth of this fucking pernicious social lie and everyone she knows is cheering it on. I feel like a non-believer amongst pagans, watching virgins get chucked into the volcano.

 

[Kaiba Cuqk63]

I'm glad you're helping your friends kid out. However this is why I am not friends with morons. They do stupid stuff and fuck up their life and can't figure their shit out. They fall for every brand new retard belief they come across on tiktok. It's exhausting and frustrating to deal with and it doesn't stop. I don't think I could be friends with a moron with kids. I would probably want to beat her to death for being too fucking stupid and running her kids life with her stupidity. Does not sound like there is a dad in the picture, quelle surprise. You should keep us updated though, this kind of thing is what the threads for and it's a good story.

The dad is in the picture but refuses to officially acknowledge the child's existence. Like he has a kid from a prior relationship on his insurance but keeps "forgetting" to add the 3 kids he has with his wife. But otherwise seems normal??? Military family if that's meaningful to anyone.

Also she's extremely dumb.

Spoiler: Off topic - she's dumb

She sends me tiktoks of black people in suits saying the most retarded shit and when i ask wtf they mean she'll ask how to buy stocks?? Also stuff about how every white person of note in history was secretly black. She has fully convinced me tiktok is fucking radioactive.

When I told her I got a new job she asked if I was down to buy a house with her paltry contribution and rent it out. At one point she said something to the effect of wow you make so much you can loan people money! To be clear, no I don't make anything close to that kind of money, she's just naive. But that's oddly specific, isn't it???

 

[CoolFool]

An old childhood friend has really gone off the rails lately, to the point that I'm wondering if he's about to troon out. He's a straight guy, but recently he placed a very ugly and cringy "Trans rights are human rights!" sticker on his car, and he's been getting into slap fights about trans issues, like how trans people face violence 4X more than "cis" people (LOL yeah right). Someone politely disagreed with him and his response was to cut off contact and declare he would not be friends with TERFs.

He's always been an obnoxious SJW, to the point that I stopped talking to him years ago, but I periodically check in on him, hoping he has grown up and come back to his senses. Sadly, he just keeps getting worse and worse. Hard to believe he used to be a normal guy and had so many friends and his whole life ahead of him

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

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Courtesy of my troon brother - sent on TDOV with an entire essay on how I invalidated him by calling him male and nobody has ever hurt him so bad, so it's a-okay he pulled my shirt and pulled a fist on me
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Courtesy of my loving and caring mom, recently
This is what I'm dealing with -_-

That's horrific. Correct me if I'm wrong - your brother sent you that a few years ago, but the message from your mom is recent? Or did I misread your earlier post?

Honestly, if your brother is willing to physically assault you over a word you should cut him off. You can message him that and block him if he brings up the story again. He is dangerous, and he has no loyalty to you at all. As for your mother, that is a horrible thing to say because you were absolutely correct in calling out both your brothers' entitlement. Has she always favored her sons over you? You could consider stating that plaintly to her and then taking a break from her for a while, but I know it's hard when it's your mother and you only have limited time left with her. But she's wrong, really wrong, an don't let her manipulate you into feeling bad.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

You unironically need to cut them out. It's hard, it isn't fun, but are they worth keeping in your life? Do they do anything that brings something good to your life?
Fuck those people.

My brother definitely is, but unfortunately my mom lives very near me as I moved to the area to be closer to family, after they moved here. I typically don't like the modern idea of being so eager to cut family off for any little thing, so I've been pretty hesitant. Unfortunately it looks like I'll have to draw the line here though.

That's horrific. Correct me if I'm wrong - your brother sent you that a few years ago, but the message from your mom is recent? Or did I misread your earlier post?

Honestly, if your brother is willing to physically assault you over a word you should cut him off. You can message him that and block him if he brings up the story again. He is dangerous, and he has no loyalty to you at all. As for your mother, that is a horrible thing to say because you were absolutely correct in calling out both your brothers' entitlement. Has she always favored her sons over you? You could consider stating that plaintly to her and then taking a break from her for a while, but I know it's hard when it's your mother and you only have limited time left with her. But she's wrong, really wrong, an don't let her manipulate you into feeling bad.

You're correct. The one from him was a few TDOVs ago, the one from my mom is a few days ago. It's funny because she'll say "it's not ok, I've told (him) that, you know I don't agree" and completely back track on that when she feels like it, apparently.

Also obviously this is biased but a little bit prior to trooning, I was always held to a higher standard. Grades, jobs, accomplishments. Post trooning my older brother was gifted a new car via a major down payment and didnt have to pay rent, while I had to take lyft and secure a job within 2 weeks from overseas in order to pay her rent for myself. I guess being a good trans ally is making sure your son has all the priorities and your daughter does not. I don't feel entitled to a car or a free place, but it was wild to suggest my brother was "unsafe" when I was the one who had to get in male strangers cars twice a day to get a wage (that I eventually did use for a car).

It's a little tricky to cut her off as she also lives with my only surviving grandparent, but luckily she's been gone half the year in various places vacationing with her cousin/boyfriend and physically gone. I don't think I want to go to the family reunion anymore, especially after she told me I am not welcome to stay with my boyfriend at the house, and would need to get a hotel. Oh, but tranny brother can stay of course.

Sorry for the TMI but I do want people to know how deep this shit goes. The cult turns on people, no matter who you are to them or how long you were dedicated to their cause. It's trannies above all to them, even their own daughter. Unfortunately for my mom, it's going to make her lose her only daughter.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

It's a little tricky to cut her off as she also lives with my only surviving grandparent, but luckily she's been gone half the year in various places vacationing with her cousin/boyfriend and physically gone.

That's good. I agree with you on cutting off family and wouldn't suggest cutting your mom off completely. It is hard and you don't get time with your parents back. But guard yourself. If she's not in your hair all the time that's a good thing for now, so you can have some distance. She's being manipulated by the trans cult as well, in the end. How is your other brother dealing with all this?

 

[Balthier]

One of my longtime online friends (F) married a woman, then her narc wife pooned out and their lives are a miserable, degenerate shitshow.

Spoiler: RIP her life

Background: my friend (I'll call her "K") and I met about 13 years ago (old) through Livejournal. She's a very sweet person who comes from a troubled background. Their dad abandoned their family, which included her and 4 other siblings. They have all ended up spiraling into extreme leftist politics and every single one of them lives some form of shit existence as a result.

K met her wife ("J") online about 12 years ago through fucking Tumblr of all places. My friend moved long distance to be with her within about a year and they got married in what was a very progressive wedding at the time. Any time J has ever posted pictures from their wedding (which she still does all these years later occasionally), it is exclusively to post pictures only of her, or of her and K, and she ONLY comments on herself. How hot she looked, how much she "served" when "presenting as a woman", etc. Literally never once have I seen her mention K in this context, or talk about how pretty she looked or anything a normal non-narc human being would do. I disliked J from the beginning. She's a narcissistic liar and munchie, but she's a successful manipulator and love-bombed K constantly to get her and keep her.

J never talks about anything but herself. She is and always has been obsessed with her image and making sure everyone knows that she's the coolest, hottest (she's ugly), most special, most damaged and most creative person to exist. According to her, she has trauma from her younger years because both of her parents were extreme abusers (this has been called into question by someone who knew her IRL) and totally neglectful, she has vague chronic illnesses and disabilities that she won't elaborate on even though she alludes them constantly (this has also been denied by the same person who knows her IRL) and she decided about 3 years ago that she's a man. Oh, did I say man? I mean a he/they. It changes whenever she doesn't feel special enough identifying as one or the other.

J started taking testosterone and binding, while also adopting the most disgusting dirtbag "male" style and hair. She looks vile. If I didn't want to out myself/them I would post a picture because you can't look at her without gagging, yet she's convinced she's a fashion icon and total goals. Her hair looks like a bird's nest and her clothes are about as unflattering as it gets for a somewhat dumpy woman. It's one of those pooner things where they try to dress like the tall, skinny boys they thirst after but it just looks like shit on them.

I forgot to mention that she's been obsessed with drag queens for a long time and reeks of a faghag who's desperate to fit in with them. She goes to shows and tags them on social media all the time. Oh, but she does have things in common with them of course! She's also a "gay man". But isn't she married to a woman? Well, yes. But K is an exception apparently (lol). During the last couple of years, J has also proudly declared that she's polyamorous! She uses Grindr to hookup with chasers on a regular basis. And I know for a fact that she fucks without protection because she also talks about this openly. She hooks up with shady guys and brings them to hers and K's home to do it. Sometimes while K is there, sometimes when she's at work.

Oh, right. Work! K is constantly in a state of stress and anxiety because they don't have money to pay for their bills. Like, all the time. They are constantly trying to fundraise money for their living expenses. They live in a very liberal city with skyrocketing housing costs and their income is pitiful. They don't have the money to move but they also don't have money to stay. K works long hours at a dogshit job for basically minimum wage pay because she has no higher education and has had to upend her life to accomodate and care for J. Yes, care for J.

J is sick all the time. At least J says she's sick all the time. She's also an alcoholic who is "recovering" and K now has to try to fund her medications and therapy. Prior to that, J worked a part time job but since she had an incidence of trying to detox too quickly which resulted in a hospital stay, she just quit. They were already struggling to make ends meet with both of them working and now she's been jobless for a few months. Jobless and bringing home random scumbags to fuck.

K isn't entirely blameless here since she allows all of this to happen. She's an adult and at some point you have to put your foot down. She is (was?) a good person at heart though and I think she just got roped into something that she totally misunderstood and underestimated. I tried telling her as much once a couple of years ago as delicately as I could. There was no official "cutting me out" but we don't speak anymore. I don't know if it's because she's ashamed or just angry or both. I still follow them on social media and I haven't been blocked, so I assume she never told J about me approaching her. Regardless, our relationship is ruined. The person I knew who was soft-hearted and kind has been slowly replaced by someone trying to mirror J as closely as possible.

While I think J is just overall a garbage person, she hides behind her trans status/identity and uses it to excuse so much shitty behavior. She actively seeks out discourse and makes it a point to say that anyone who disagrees with the trans narrative deserves prison time. Or death if it offends her enough. The trans thing is where the degeneracy really started and K became entirely entrenched in being a TRA too. J used the trans thing to claim that she was robbed of being a homosexual man throughout her life and that she needed to get pounded out by weirdos to makeup for the homophobia and transphobia she experienced. She successfully weaponized this as a way to control her marriage and cuck her wife.

This is made even more disgusting by how obsessed she is with being a woman (which she obviously is) during sex with random men. She's posted about how she wants to get a huge boob job so she can get fucked by a man but still know she's a man herself no matter what her body looks like (lmfao). She fantasizes about being "force femmed" and having men call her "princess" and "little girl" while they fuck her. Every time she has an encounter with one she posts in gross detail about it, and K just reads it and likes the post like a good little wife. She talks about her vagina more than any woman I've ever met. It's all just vile.

I guess having a trans identity means you get to control your spouse, cuck them, be a jobless leech and your spouse just has no recourse to question it otherwise they're a transphobe.

I know it's not my friend who transitioned, so it's a little different than most of the other stories here, but she's still missing from my life and trans politics are to blame.

TL;DR woman marries a narc woman, narc woman poons out and runs their lives into the ground, which is her right as a trans person and you'd better not question it.

Thanks for the therapy session!

 

[Redoniblueoni]

That's good. I agree with you on cutting off family and wouldn't suggest cutting your mom off completely. It is hard and you don't get time with your parents back. But guard yourself. If she's not in your hair all the time that's a good thing for now, so you can have some distance. She's being manipulated by the trans cult as well, in the end. How is your other brother dealing with all this?

He's younger, so he's been indoctrinated in this alot. He keeps his head down and has told me before all this he thinks my mom is a narcissist. He's cut her off in the past for something unrelated to this. He's argued with me about this topic, but it's clear his arguments make no actual logical sense/go around in circles and he doesn't think my brother will ever "pass". Despite this, he agrees with my mom that I'm an evil twansphobe and just got manipulated by alt right reddit/tumblr, of all things. In general, he tries his best to avoid all drama. He's never hinted at violence against me and we've always been friends, but I know his view of me is skewed from all this. He avoids my mom in general, often not returning phone calls and texts for months. I haven't brought up cutting mom off to him yet, because it's likely it'll get back to her somehow.