Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Nekomander]

has your fiancée been having any sleep issues that could be compounding stress?

Nah for as long as I’ve known her she falls asleep rather easily and sleeps throughout the night (a lot of funny stories involve her falling asleep during competitive games)

 

[glass_houses]

I am more concerned at the moment, however, about how she been experiencing severe sleep deprivation on top of everything. It has been aggravated by her experiencing graphic nightmares (many of which appear to involve me meeting a nasty end). These distress her to the point that she wakes up screaming and wanting to make sure I am not hurt before trying to go back to more poor sleep.

This may seem pretty random, but having her tested for sleep apnea might be a good idea. Some people with terrors who later acquire sleep apnea find that their terrors get worse following that. Even if your wife is normal or even underweight, she could have it. It runs in my family, even those of us who are healthy weights can have it because our respiratory systems are genetically fucked up. If she's having a bad run of terrors, try sleeping with the overhead light on. Terrors generally happen when you move from light sleep to deep sleep, and light can sometimes stop you from moving into the deep sleep cycle. Also make your bedroom as cold as possible, as many people with terrors find that overheating is a major trigger.

Another trigger for terrors is stress (which she certainly has) but is she having any dramas at work?

 

[Redoniblueoni]

Yeah now that I’ve had days to think about this that detail really wasn’t necessary but I know he’s a good man and not the type to shame her for that but that was just a small thing that was touched on in our talk so I doubt he brings it up and I’ve made it clear to her I don’t think gay porn is wrong to be watching I just think the amount she consumes is the problem.

Not to get all preachy but I think porn is useless or actively detrimental to a relationship period. Be it gay porn, straight, hentai, doesn't matter. That's sexual energy you aren't spending on eachother. Gay porn here would be extra fetish-y and overall negative as it's likely she's warped it to be a self insert scenario to her troonsona. Typical too-online behavior.
I am not a relationship expert but in relationships where one (or both) of us engaged in watching/reading/looking at porn much at all they all failed. Nobody felt good about it even if our sex life was otherwise healthy

 

[toilet_rainbow]

This may seem pretty random, but having her tested for sleep apnea might be a good idea. Some people with terrors who later acquire sleep apnea find that their terrors get worse following that. Even if your wife is normal or even underweight, she could have it. It runs in my family, even those of us who are healthy weights can have it because our respiratory systems are genetically fucked up. If she's having a bad run of terrors, try sleeping with the overhead light on. Terrors generally happen when you move from light sleep to deep sleep, and light can sometimes stop you from moving into the deep sleep cycle. Also make your bedroom as cold as possible, as many people with terrors find that overheating is a major trigger.

Another trigger for terrors is stress (which she certainly has) but is she having any dramas at work?

You may be on to something. She gained enough weight recently that she was terrified of needing a new wardrobe. One of the points I had to make when she started claiming gender dysphoria from it was that every single woman I’ve known or seen that take T has ballooned into deathfat territory. She has lost enough weight on her own in the past couple weeks that her clothes are starting to fit again. Far fewer mentions of how feeling fat makes her dysphoric now. Which further reinforces to me that most of her current feelings are indeed stress related (and those that aren’t are body image related).

(For what it’s worth, she still maintains she is a GNC woman and won’t take T if offered it. I still have to be cautiously optimistic since she still says stuff like above when stressed now. She hadn’t done that for a good while. The “clinic” really did a number on her psychologically.)

The light part also intrigues me because some of the absolute worst nightmares have been when it’s pitch black in the room or shortly after I turn off the light. Maybe she does have sleep apnea.

As for work, I am unaware of any drama. She overall likes the job. Main thing is she is exhausted after work since it can get demanding at times. She is autistic too and prone to sensory overload.

Not to get all preachy but I think porn is useless or actively detrimental to a relationship period. Be it gay porn, straight, hentai, doesn't matter. That's sexual energy you aren't spending on eachother. Gay porn here would be extra fetish-y and overall negative as it's likely she's warped it to be a self insert scenario to her troonsona. Typical too-online behavior.
I am not a relationship expert but in relationships where one (or both) of us engaged in watching/reading/looking at porn much at all they all failed. Nobody felt good about it even if our sex life was otherwise healthy

Doesn’t help that a lot of porn on the major sites nowadays would’ve been considered hardcore or even niche not even five years ago. Things you would have had to actively search for because they were that controversial. I have recently noticed a lot more troons defending or openly into incest ships. Meanwhile I have noticed a lot of people online complaining that porn site homepages keep suggesting stepsister porn to them even when they use incognito or otherwise don’t engage with it. Coincidence? I think not.

I’m not completely anti erotica but there is definitely some sort of porn to troon pipeline happening. A big enough one that it has greatly soured me from it. A naked titty in a Playboy spread (or real life) isn’t titillating enough for many anymore. They now require something like futanari tentacle hentai to get off. The troons are just coping when they deny that porn addiction is a very real possibility.

@Nekomander, I do not know how your sex life is, and you do not need to elaborate. But if your fiancée is only getting off to whatever porn she’s looking at or your intimacy together is down the toilet, I would find a way to suggest going cold turkey from smut for at least a week (ideally longer). Whatever fetish stuff she is looking at may be crossing wires that shouldn’t be crossed, and it’s affecting her mental state in turn. This includes fanfiction. Much of it has always been smutty, but have noticed a huge spike in things like gay watersport PWPs without even looking for it. She needs to reset her relationship with her body without the porn.

 

[batteredpancakes]

she’s a tumblr and x user and has a hyper fixation on yaoi since early teens

I don't have any productive advice but I'll tell you that an adult woman who is still very into Tumblr and yaoi isn't normal.

Me and many of my friends were part of the Tumblr crowd and we matured out of it by our late teens (yes even most of the autists) and moved on with life. All the girls who didn't, tend to come across as someone whose mental development halted at 13. These girls are now well into their 30s and have shown no improvement. If anything, they're actually worse because they lack the advantage of youth. They have actual responsibilities now (children) and don't have their parents around to save them from fuckups. They do the bare minimum at everything because they're too overwhelmed by trying to operate on a level too advanced for them.

I'd be careful moving forward with her even if she decides not to troon out. These women don't make good wives or mothers.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

I don't have any productive advice but I'll tell you that an adult woman who is still very into Tumblr and yaoi isn't normal.

Me and many of my friends were part of the Tumblr crowd and we matured out of it by our late teens (yes even most of the autists) and moved on with life. All the girls who didn't, tend to come across as someone whose mental development halted at 13. These girls are now well into their 30s and have shown no improvement. If anything, they're actually worse because they lack the advantage of youth. They have actual responsibilities now (children) and don't have their parents around to save them from fuckups. They do the bare minimum at everything because they're too overwhelmed by trying to operate on a level too advanced for them.

I'd be careful moving forward with her even if she decides not to troon out. These women don't make good wives or mothers.

Also, it's practically a dating website. I met my current irl boyfriend off tumblr. No lasting "friends".
I was off and on that website and can confirm most of the women are often times unhinged losers. Although the terf/racist/fringe crowd did provide support during the whole troon brother drama I've mentioned ITT.
Unfortunately it's also full of grown men hitting on minors but that's kind of any social media nowadays tbh

 

[Lavender Moth]

Between the cat torturers thread and my dual irl & online experiences with troons, I feel like I'm just becoming irreversibly blackpilled towards humanity.

Spoiler: Welcome to my psychotherapy session

I have a small side-gig in the entertainment industry. Lil' indie shit. I've always liked it that way, as, while you do lose reach, you are allowed to keep control of your vision. These days, I think it's extra important, as being indie lets you create without evil woke investor groups requiring you to pozz up your work in ways you disagree with. Because of the way Hollywood/The Big Five/AAA Games/etc are going, I firmly believe the future of modern Western entertainment (in all forms) is a ball currently in the court of indie creators.

That being said, I'm in a chat for people into indie things, from both the consumer and creator side. It was always left-leaning, but it was a sane center-left for years, where reasonable right-leaning opinions were generally tolerated and, at the very least, if they were pushed back against, it was in a way that generated interesting, civil discussion, rather than a mob. Even the troony types were of the more tolerable HSTS variety, and tended to stick to being on-topic rather than crowing about euphoria boners.

This has steadily changed. It is now impossible to have a civil discussion about "the other side" without it turning into a misogynistic shitfest that boils down to how much these AGP men hate women. I have to hear about how "my protagonist has trauma, and that's why she's such a FREAK in bed teeheehee!" (I'm practically quoting here, mind you.) I have to hear men shame a woman for the crime of...becoming a mother and being happily married, and for not carving up her body when she was a teenager with bodily dysmorphia. I have to constantly hear about how I -- a female in a country where I am no longer guaranteed an abortion if one of these ghouls rapes me in my own restroom that they are now legally allowed to be in because of a fictional delusion in their minds -- am "privileged" because I can accept my own biology when they can't. The whole bit of shaming a female creator for being monogamous and having a kid was pretty much my last straw. I know it's because the man who said it is bitterly jealous of her success and happiness and wishes he could fetishistically gestate a child in his testicles, but to literally have a healthy relationship and healthy family unit become "an insult" in this space really makes me feel A Way. It makes me want to leave. It makes me want to stop creating. It makes me want to leave the internet other than fucking KiwiFarms where I can at least rage in my cage about how much I detest this ideology.

I miss when sci-fi and fantasy were forms of escapism, rather than a means by which disgusting men bully others into engaging in their sinister and sick delusions. I hate that I can't even feel comfortable discussing openly the things I like, or have created, here on KF because of troon lurkers.

My therapist (lol) says I shouldn't DFE my social media and shouldn't stop sharing my creations. Her cited reason is that people need creators and voices, however small, that don't buy into the trans cult. Even if we aren't as brave & outspoken as, say, JKR, she said it's important because people like me take up spaces that would otherwise be occupied by cultists were we to step down. I agree with this, but...

At this point trannies make me wanna ACK because I have become so fucking isolated by them regarding every activity I truly love other than fucking bird watching (which is best done alone anyway) & cat rescuing, and it feels like this shit will never, ever end. I feel like they have robbed me of the future I was promised as a child. And, in a way, they have, as this ideology has actually killed people I loved and naïvely assumed I would grow old with. It's so hard to get over that.

On a sidenote unrelated to my Sad Bitch emotions, @Nekomander I commend you for standing your ground. As others said, it's an extremely good sign that she was actually willing to listen to you, rather than knee-jerk into accusations of bigotry and "transphobia". I truly hope the best for you and your fiancée. You seem like a wonderful person that she is very lucky to have.

 

[ScurvyRat]

It makes me want to leave. It makes me want to stop creating. It makes me want to leave the internet other than fucking KiwiFarms where I can at least rage in my cage about how much I detest this ideology.

I too was in the industry to a lesser extent in college. I left in 2015 when they *proudly* announced they would no longer be casting white males (me) for any roles. The tech director who was merit driven was also pushed out of the department, because he refused to elevate people based on being a woman or being brown.

Don't stop creating. Just do it as independently as you can. I hesitate to recommend YouTube, but there are worse options. Options like staying in an industry that hates you for who you are.

 

[Hepativore]

@toilet_rainbow

As you are a lesbian, do you have to be on high alert for the signs that your partners/wife are on the verge of pooning out? How do you vet or screen other lesbians for this, as poonism seems to be spreading like insanity among homosexual women and so how do you filter potential pooners out?

It is rather ironic that while the mainstream discourse likes to paint Kiwi Farms as some sort of hate site, we have become a bit of a safe haven for LGBs and heterosexual women to escape from the "T" virus.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

@toilet_rainbow

As you are a lesbian, do you have to be on high alert for the signs that your partners/wife are on the verge of pooning out? How do you vet or screen other lesbians for this, as poonism seems to be spreading like insanity among homosexual women and so how do you filter potential pooners out?

It is rather ironic that while the mainstream discourse likes to paint Kiwi Farms as some sort of hate site, we have become a bit of a safe haven for LGBs and heterosexual women to escape from the "T" virus.

One thing that peaked me hard about the trans cult was how it pathologized being a non gender conforming woman. Not even Le Straights are as homophobic. By tranny logic, it is not okay for a woman to be a tomboy and grow up to be gay or straight or to like other women. If they aren’t straight up uber feminine, then they might as well not be women. Or even “cis.” I used to have other women on Tumblr try to groom me into also identifying as non binary with them to the usual body image issues women experience or because I liked women. “If you are a lesbian, you have already removed yourself from being cis.” Exact wording. (My wife not subjecting me to this years ago despite her own issues was one of the things that attracted me to her in the first place, among other things. She has always questioned aspects even during her lowest moments. Even now she’s questioning despite her brain feeling scrambled. This is one of the things keeping me holding on at this moment.)

As for warning signs… this is difficult for me to answer. Partly because of what I just mentioned. A lot of lesbians ostensibly perform gender non conformity just by liking pussy, and there were historically aspects of lesbian subculture revolving around things like being stone or going by masculine names and pronouns to protect your partner and yourself from (usually sexual) violence. My wife has always been stone; it’s just how she is. She also hates or has no desire for most “gender play” items like binders or packers, so I can’t even point to the use of those items as red flags. We don’t engage in real life queer events so best I can get is that talking to troons she regards as her fandom friends is hurting her a lot more than she realizes.

Testosterone really is doing to lesbians what crack did to poor blacks in the 80s. It is very difficult to avoid pooners and other trannies in lesbian spaces. Feels lonely at times. My wife and I have felt like our own “community” IRL for years (or part of a very tiny one) since we hadn’t felt comfortable or welcome in most “queer” spaces. That being said, if a woman has a trans flag icon, a fucktarded troon name, multiple pronouns (especially neo), and posts/talks a lot about porn or social justice on their social media, avoid like the plague. They will drag you down deceptively fast. (And probably be featured in the Pooner Zoo thread in time. Talk about embarrassing.)

That sounds obvious given it’s Stinkditch, but that’s how fucked the situation is right now. Can be hard to tell with lesbians until it’s too late. At least with MTFs there are usually glaring signs like cross dressing or poorly painted nails. If my marriage ends up failing due to troonery, I am not dating again. And not just because she feels like my soulmate. It is too much like a minefield now trying to find non pozzed friends, let alone life partners. I feel so bad for single lesbians, especially the younger ones just starting to come to terms with their sexuality. Seeing more medical reports confirming how bad transgenderism makes me hopeful the tide is finally turning, but more needs to happen.

 

[Hepativore]

@toilet_rainbow

Spoiler: White pill

Vavoom, a bright orange floribunda rose I used to have.

I imagine its very sad to watch your dating pool shrink and cohorts fall to becoming pooners, as sometimes it must feel like being one of the last female survivors in a pooner-zombie apocalypse.

I have witnessed firsthand at my previous job how many pooners will groom/bully other women into being like them. Shortly after our pooner manager left for phallo (...and never came back) one of my female coworkers had a break down in the break room about how horrible they were to her until she hopped on the "trans-masc" bandwagon for a bit despite being a very "femme" lesbian but she got off before any permanent harm was done as she said all that she really did was wear a binder and cut her hair short and never took HRT. When she "detransitioned" her friend circle apparently immediately cut her off as she was basically branded "toxic" and "transphobic".

I honestly tried to be as consoling as I could, but as I am male I did not know what to say as I have no direct experience with this, and our pooner manager never interacted with any of the men at work other than with detachment. However, I was horrified at how vile FTMs could be to other women with a degree of vindictiveness that would have been reported to HR and the people fired had it been "cis" men that were doing it, but a combination of managerial authority and the "trans" pass shielded the instigators from any sort of consequences.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

@toilet_rainbow

Spoiler: White pill

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Vavoom, a bright orange floribunda rose I used to have.

I imagine its very sad to watch your dating pool shrink and cohorts fall to becoming pooners, as sometimes it must feel like being one of the last female survivors in a pooner-zombie apocalypse.

I have witnessed firsthand at my previous job how many pooners will groom/bully other women into being like them. Shortly after our pooner manager left for phallo (...and never came back) one of my female coworkers had a break down in the break room about how horrible they were to her until she hopped on the "trans-masc" bandwagon for a bit despite being a very "femme" lesbian but she got off before any permanent harm was done as she said all that she really did was wear a binder and cut her hair short and never took HRT. When she "detransitioned" her friend circle apparently immediately cut her off as she was basically branded "toxic" and "transphobic".

I honestly tried to be as consoling as I could, but as I am male I did not know what to say as I have no direct experience with this, and our pooner manager never interacted with any of the men at work other than with detachment. However, I was horrified at how vile FTMs could be to other women with a degree of vindictiveness that would have been reported to HR and the people fired had it been "cis" men that were doing it, but a combination of managerial authority and the "trans" pass shielded the instigators from any sort of consequences.

Pretty flower, thank you.

No joke, straight people have been much more supportive to me (and my wife/our relationship) than other “queers.” Even many that are against trans people still support the LGB, it appears. To the point that I feel like the MTF “friend” that she was offended at me saying that I found creepy telling us how cute we are in stream chats is looking at us like cuties that must be “broken.”

I sure feel broken right now. Tried to think of all the women from my old social circles growing up that have not pooned in some form at one point (especially in the last five years). If I am being super optimistic, the headcount is currently three. And if they are handmaidens, that number is actually zero. You get this paranoia that if the number is that low, maybe something is wrong with you.

Kiwi Farms (and the few people I can call friends that I chat with off site that I met here) have been much more supportive than my old circles with this. I know that in itself is a very slippery slope but it is what it is. I do have one non KF ally atm (that is not family). One of those three remaining friends is an old mutual friend of my wife and I’s that I only started chatting with again recently. She is concerned about our well being and giving me the ol British Keep Calm and Carry On message. Still I worry that despite knowing my wife for even longer than I that she may turn on me as a handmaiden. That fucking paranoia again.

So please, if a LGB person or co worker tells you how openly distressed at what troonery is doing to the LGBs, please let them know you support them and that they are not alone in thinking that way. The fear tactics and propaganda machines that Troons employ are scarily effective and insidious.

 

[The Ugly One]

So please, if a LGB person or co worker tells you how openly distressed at what troonery is doing to the LGBs, please let them know you support them and that they are not alone in thinking that way.

I'll support them in their distress over trannies taking over their spaces once they take all those goddamned rainbow flags out of my spaces.

 

[Lavender Moth]

I'll support them in their distress over trannies taking over their spaces once they take all those goddamned rainbow flags out of my spaces.

In all fairness, I'd argue a lot of us LGBs who are against the TQ hate those flags as much as you do. (I know I really hate them lol.)

I often feel a noxious tight sensation in my chest when I see that hideous color-vomit tapestry they call "the progress flag" flying in places. Black people, troons, and the like <1% of the population that has an actual intersex condition have nothing to do with gay people. Lumping them together feels wrong, because it is wrong. I absolutely fucking hate it. Ironically, here in Liberal Land, I typically see this flag as a sign the place isn't a safe area for gays (or females) and if it's a business flying it, I will actively avoid shopping there.

Even for old school rainbow, I've always maintained the notion that it shouldn't be flown in institutional or governmental settings, period. If the point is assimilation for gays and fairness under the law, then there isn't a need to virtue signal like that. This goes doubly so for the fact that I'd say in 99% of the cases where it's being flown, being a homo has nothing to do with the service being provided, and isn't even something that's going to come up in conversation unless I volunteer that info (which I would not because that's fucking weird???). Imo, anyone is in the right to feel put-off and annoyed by this flag shit. From a fed-up faggot perspective, it makes me feel dehumanized and I would love for it to stop. I'm a human being, not a fucking spectacle to be fawned over and "celebrated" like a zoo animal.

Problem is, when we (as in, gays who are made uncomfortable by this) speak out against it, they pull the same old "omg bigot/you're lying/you have internalized homophobia/you will be thrown out for bIgOtRy" bullshittery to shut us up.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

In all fairness, I'd argue a lot of us LGBs who are against the TQ hate those flags as much as you do. (I know I really hate them lol.)

I often feel a noxious tight sensation in my chest when I see that hideous color-vomit tapestry they call "the progress flag" flying in places. Black people, troons, and the like <1% of the population that has an actual intersex condition have nothing to do with gay people. Lumping them together feels wrong, because it is wrong. I absolutely fucking hate it. Ironically, here in Liberal Land, I typically see this flag as a sign the place isn't a safe area for gays (or females) and if it's a business flying it, I will actively avoid shopping there.

Even for old school rainbow, I've always maintained the notion that it shouldn't be flown in institutional or governmental settings, period. If the point is assimilation for gays and fairness under the law, then there isn't a need to virtue signal like that. This goes doubly so for the fact that I'd say in 99% of the cases where it's being flown, being a homo has nothing to do with the service being provided, and isn't even something that's going to come up in conversation unless I volunteer that info (which I would not because that's fucking weird???). Imo, anyone is in the right to feel put-off and annoyed by this flag shit. From a fed-up faggot perspective, it makes me feel dehumanized and I would love for it to stop. I'm a human being, not a fucking spectacle to be fawned over and "celebrated" like a zoo animal.

Problem is, when we (as in, gays who are made uncomfortable by this) speak out against it, they pull the same old "omg bigot/you're lying/you have internalized homophobia/you will be thrown out for bIgOtRy" bullshittery to shut us up.

I feel so much of this.

The level of hatred that I have for the progress flag in immense. It is as symbolic as the trans flag of how fucked everything has become. I like the basic Baker flag as it’s simple and was meant for all. I won’t even wave our single flag outside, but I am not ashamed of it. I agree with you that it and all other “pride” flags should not be flown in institutions or government buildings, too. I don’t even like seeing companies change their social media icons to some flavor of rainbow during June. So much “progress” is pandering to the troons, from candy colored merch to requiring pronouns on forms and name tags. I do not need to know a cashier’s pronouns if I’m getting groceries or buying popcorn at the theater. I refuse to state my pronouns in business emails or in social media groups.

Any gay people that request or do those things are either intimidated by the tranny mafia enforcers or are straight up handmaidens. The peer pressure is real. The intimidation, the thought control, is very real. And even questioning the most mundane aspect of troonery is often social suicide in these groups. It’s not unlike when JWs disfellowship non believers for the slightest perceived infraction. Troonery really is a cult.

Trannies, especially MTFs, also despise lesbians in particular. When they haven’t converted us, they are actively grooming us. And when that fails, that’s when the cancellation and harassment campaigns begin. In some odd way I hope troons get too overconfident with their sick methods and the normies go “fuck that.” It seems to already be working if more people are slowly open to opposing them, like what’s going on in the UK. Just sucks that the gays that really do just want to be left alone like the straights are lumped with the T by historical association. What a mistake that was. While I still see many straights support gays, I also see more backlash against the LGB online. It’s going to be messy however the fallout disperses.

 

[ScurvyRat]

So many women in this thread. I genuinely thought @toilet_rainbow was a man

Weird to think that as much as I hate MTF trannies, the lesbians have it so much worse.
My line for normies is an appeal to protecc wahmen.
"Women deserve their own spaces and that also means they get to dictate who is in them"
Really hard for people to disagree with that one, especially liberal men.
Personally, I've had several pooners invade my male exclusive places, to the point where I don't even associate with those groups anymore. Spaces that were designed and created for men, invaded by women taking testosterone and pretending to be men. Horrifying, truly. I spoke out at the time but was criticized heavily

“If you are a lesbian, you have already removed yourself from being cis."

Insanity. I hear the same thing from some of my male gay friends. They like dick, but that doesn't mean they want to chop theirs off. It's an alien concept to these people that you can be comfortable in your own femineity/masculinity and still be gay.
The ironic thing is how it plays into that "hetero-normative paradigm" that they all claim to hate so much.

If my marriage ends up failing due to troonery, I am not dating again

I don't blame you. Dating is hell. I've been reporting all the troons on dating apps for being sex offenders, and wouldn't you know.... I'm right every single fucking time.
I see a man labeling himself as a woman and I just slam that report button. Satisfying to get the thank you messages from these apps. I recommend lesbians do the same with the men shitting up their services.

 

[Lavender Moth]

I recommend lesbians do the same with the men shitting up their services.

We did. There was even a whole campaign for it, because it's REALLY bad on "lesbian" dating apps, the biggest and worst offender being the HER app.

The response from their corporate was that we deserve lobotomies for being homosexual. Which, shows a grotesque lack of understanding about (actual) gay history, as lesbians and other women deemed "too free spirited/difficult" were often the victims of lobotomies. They are also adamant about allowing male pedophiles & rapist to remain on the app if they "identify" as women. If you put anything like "biological women only" in your profile you will be instantly banned if they catch it.

Dating as a lesbian is hell. I almost ended up alone with a TIM because of this very app (he photoshopped all his images -- I only found out when I found his soc media the day before we were gonna meet up...something about "her" just felt fucking off and I'm so glad I listened to my gut and went digging). After that incident, I legit no longer bother, it's far too dangerous and terrifying. Though I guess in some ways it's been a blessing in disguise, as it's allowed me to work on my self-worth, which has absolutely tanked in the face of trans activism. Letting go of my old friend group who all pooned really has been like escaping a cult, and I don't know if I will ever recover my trust in people. It is 100% trannies who have forced me back into the closet. Ironically, outside of this very site, pro-gay Christians have been the kindest and most willing to comfort me. I'm very grateful for them.

 

[umami's milk]

Personally, I've had several pooners invade my male exclusive places, to the point where I don't even associate with those groups anymore. Spaces that were designed and created for men, invaded by women taking testosterone and pretending to be men. Horrifying, truly. I spoke out at the time but was criticized heavily

Was it CoD?
It was CoD, wasn't it?

 

[Justafish]

A friend of mine we'll call X has been showing a lot of signs of suicidal ideation. He's MtF, not far along in his transition despite taking estrogen and having semi visible breasts. I haven't minded hanging out with him, as we have similar niche interests and senses of humor. Typical MtF interests; weeb, gamer, obsessively watching politics. Not into degenerate porn or furry stuff, surprisingly.

After extensive prodding from me, he told me today that he plans on taking his own life 'eventually'. I'm trying to give him affordable resources and he shoots back at me with a list of 'marginalized' identities he has and says "I'm not statistically likely to live long anyways". I've known him for about a year and while I'm not super emotionally attached (he's very cagey about ever talking about his feelings, even when I press him and ask if he's okay), I don't want him to kill himself. I tried telling him his parents love him. He isn't out to them yet, I believe. I highly suspect they don't know what he's going through, both transition wise and in general with his mental health. X is not a close friend, but we've hung out IRL a lot in the last year. I like him showing me whatever niche nerdy music he's into and me showing him stuff.

It's just so disheartening to see someone have so little regard for their own life. I told him about some personal struggles I had in the past and all he said was "I guess. I've heard it all before." It's just so fucking frustrating. I'm trying to show him this is not the path to go down, but he does not care. I suppose I can't really do anything else except dread what happens next. I wish I could at least contact his parents and let them know what he's going through. Not specifically his transition, as much as his worrying mental state. I probably just need to be a better judge of character in the future.

 

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The response from their corporate was that we deserve lobotomies for being homosexual. Which, shows a grotesque lack of understanding about (actual) gay history, as lesbians and other women deemed "too free spirited/difficult" were often the victims of lobotomies. They are also adamant about allowing male pedophiles & rapist to remain on the app if they "identify" as women. If you put anything like "biological women only" in your profile you will be instantly banned if they catch it.

Dating as a lesbian is hell.

Pretty crazy the parallels we have dating women. Almost like those of us who like pussy don't want dick or axe-wound. God forbid we have a fucking preference when it comes to dating. Reminds me of Aldus Huxley's Brave New World, where it's socially unacceptable to deny someone sex with you, for any reason. That's where these sexual degenerates want to take this.

Not into degenerate porn or furry stuff, surprisingly.

After extensive prodding from me, he told me today that he plans on taking his own life 'eventually'.

Actually just report him and get him put in a 72 hour psychiatric hold. I don't tolerate that shit from people in my life anymore. Suicide bating is just going to increase your anxiety and resentment towards this individual and the more you let them talk about it without doing anything about it, the more they'll use you as their emotional tampon.
In my experience, people stop talking like that when you show them that there are consequences for their emotional manipulation. Which btw, it is manipulation. Intentional or not.