Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

Holy fuck im MATI rn, this is disgusting. You sound like a much more rounded human being than your brother ever will be, male or female-skinwalking not withstanding.
Thank you. I try (kinda).

This reminds me of how deeply they try to emulate women. I got the idea when I first saw him trooning out and sorta kinda thought he was dressing like me. I put that idea out of my mind (because ew) but it came up when my grandma mentioned "hey, isn't (brother) dressed like (me)?" from a picture of him.
Ever since I've gone dark on my real name social media's, no pictures of myself. I think he blocked me on everything but I just don't want him to try and steal my blueprint. Even though the copy is never as good as the original.

They hate us because they will never be us.
 
Thank you. I try (kinda).

This reminds me of how deeply they try to emulate women. I got the idea when I first saw him trooning out and sorta kinda thought he was dressing like me. I put that idea out of my mind (because ew) but it came up when my grandma mentioned "hey, isn't (brother) dressed like (me)?" from a picture of him.
Ever since I've gone dark on my real name social media's, no pictures of myself. I think he blocked me on everything but I just don't want him to try and steal my blueprint. Even though the copy is never as good as the original.

They hate us because they will never be us.
Having a brother that's attempting to skinwalk you is truly terrifying. I've noticed that the troons will try to emulate the women in their lives that are the closest to them. Troon husbands stealing their wife's panties, your brother stealing your clothes, my cousin trying to emulate his mother. Real women find natural feminine beauty from within. Troons have to sneed, borrow, and steal their idenities from what they perceive femininity to be all about aka sexually charged misogyny.

I wouldn't doubt that your brother has some fucked up incest fantasies involving you. Especially considering the autogynephilic tendencies of troons combined with him stealing your clothes? Sorry dude, its rough to have a relative that's so coom-brained they have succumbed to make it their entire personality. Not a fetish tho(tm)
 
also recently my mom has reconnected with her (first) cousin and decided they're madly in love with eachother. Just my luck 🙃
What the fuck?
I sincerely hope you can find a partner to build your own family that isn't as fucked up as this. Holy fucking shit, bro.
 
I'd wager you're right. Not just because of him being a weird troon, but also recently my mom has reconnected with her (first) cousin and decided they're madly in love with eachother. Just my luck 🙃
Lmfao wtf, sorry about your brother and all but i think theres more to mourn. I sincerelt hope youre doing well enough you dont need to see these people as much now. Trooning and other histrionics have a way of infesting or alienating.
 
Lmfao wtf, sorry about your brother and all but i think theres more to mourn. I sincerelt hope youre doing well enough you dont need to see these people as much now. Trooning and other histrionics have a way of infesting or alienating.
No, luckily I am an independent adult so I'm all good. I get my support in secret thanks to the reasonable people I encounter IRL and places like here. Just trying to stay sane in an insane world. Unfortunate modern day therapists would be useless or even detrimental if I were to discuss this with any of them but what are you gonna do
 
Update on my situation: I told my fiancee that I am down to continue my therapy and mending the relationship that this whole gender identity crisis has caused but that I won’t affirm any of this other stuff like her new name or her pronouns and also that she could dress and get her hair cut however she wants but as soon as she takes hormones or gets surgeries I’m done she proceeded to tell me that my terms are fine since she’s still questioning all of this in the first place after this it kinda went downhill when I asked her to stop using xitter tumblr ao3 pintrest and to stop talking to the preop pooner discorders she went to for “help with all this” she broke down crying saying that these things aren’t the cause of all this despite her never showing signs of thinking this way at all until 4 months ago and finally I ended it off by saying I had asked her dad for help with all this and revealed everything to him including her fujo stuff (not to scare but because she looks up to him as a personal hero of sorts) since then she’s been moping around the house but still civil and cuddles with me at bed time still but only time will tell how this ends
 
Update on my situation: I told my fiancee that I am down to continue my therapy and mending the relationship that this whole gender identity crisis has caused but that I won’t affirm any of this other stuff like her new name or her pronouns and also that she could dress and get her hair cut however she wants but as soon as she takes hormones or gets surgeries I’m done she proceeded to tell me that my terms are fine since she’s still questioning all of this in the first place after this it kinda went downhill when I asked her to stop using xitter tumblr ao3 pintrest and to stop talking to the preop pooner discorders she went to for “help with all this” she broke down crying saying that these things aren’t the cause of all this despite her never showing signs of thinking this way at all until 4 months ago and finally I ended it off by saying I had asked her dad for help with all this and revealed everything to him including her fujo stuff (not to scare but because she looks up to him as a personal hero of sorts) since then she’s been moping around the house but still civil and cuddles with me at bed time still but only time will tell how this ends
Stay strong. It seems like she still loves and respects you, much like you respect her enough to tell her that going down that path would kill her, if not her body then her soul. In the majority of cases they jump straight to accusations of abuse and othering when confronted—it sounds like she's just a confused dork as opposed to using trooning as a vehicle for narcissism. We're rooting for you.
 
she proceeded to tell me that my terms are fine since she’s still questioning all of this in the first place
Agreeing with @Higgs Bonbon, the fact that she didn't immediately allow things to fall apart means there is still hope. This could be the start of a heavy conversation that could ultimately lead to growing and learning together. If either of you can overcome this, it will be a new plateau of respect, trust, and understanding, which are all foundations to a deeper love.

There are reasons you two desire to have a life together-- try to focus on those things. Build on integrity and character, which are the foundations of true strength and resilience. It's possible your fiancee wishes to be a man because she, on some level, considers herself weaker or less than. This is the crucial chance to show her that she is succumbing to a false social construct that especially preys heavily on insecurity, and takes advantage of all the overall confusion it creates.

God, I wish both of you luck and success
 
Update on my situation:...
You're definitely right to hold your own ground, but please don't be too hard on your fiance. It's obvious there's a reason she's seeking advice/validation from rando pooners on the internet, and if she feels like she can't discuss whatever she's going through with you or her family she's gonna turn to whoever she feels like she can be open to. The fact that you revealed details about her personal life to her dad isn't great either. Even if the intentions behind doing so were good, that's still violating her personal boundaries and she might feel like she can't talk to you about herself as a result.

The people she chooses to trust now can be the difference between her keeping a healthy body and her screwing it up permanently with hormones/SRS. Stay sympathetic to her struggles, but do whatever you can to let her know trooning out isn't the answer no matter what she's going through.
 
Update on my situation: I told my fiancee that I am down to continue my therapy and mending the relationship that this whole gender identity crisis has caused but that I won’t affirm any of this other stuff like her new name or her pronouns and also that she could dress and get her hair cut however she wants but as soon as she takes hormones or gets surgeries I’m done she proceeded to tell me that my terms are fine since she’s still questioning all of this in the first place after this it kinda went downhill when I asked her to stop using xitter tumblr ao3 pintrest and to stop talking to the preop pooner discorders she went to for “help with all this” she broke down crying saying that these things aren’t the cause of all this despite her never showing signs of thinking this way at all until 4 months ago and finally I ended it off by saying I had asked her dad for help with all this and revealed everything to him including her fujo stuff (not to scare but because she looks up to him as a personal hero of sorts) since then she’s been moping around the house but still civil and cuddles with me at bed time still but only time will tell how this ends
That's awful, but your terms are acceptable and I hope she follows through with them. She sounds terminally online, and it sounds like (Maybe both of you) could benefit from taking some time away from screens and spending quality time together. Get her to visit a new place (doesnt have to be fancy), take her and buy her something fun as a surprise. Develop a hobby you both can do together. Make the fuji fantasy yaoi relationship it seems she wants real life, so she has something to daydream about that isn't a fake ass anime fantasy life.
You're her fiance, your relationship is real, her internet "friends" are not.

As a side note I've been playing baldurs gate 3 both together and separate with my bf, as well as going to local mtg groups with him and this has helped us feel more connected a good amount. Doesn't have to be anything crazy social if she's a shut in nerd like many of us.
 
Thanks all I genuinely just want her to be happy and I’m not “banning” her from these sites just a suggestion and we’ve started doing more together as well (watching shows gaming going out for treats) I’ll take the advice of stepping away from online stuff though I genuinely hope we can get through this both happy with our lives I’ll try my best to make her see the love I feel for her is real and not just talk.
 
The fact that you revealed details about her personal life to her dad isn't great either. Even if the intentions behind doing so were good, that's still violating her personal boundaries and she might feel like she can't talk to you about herself as a result.
Yeah now that I’ve had days to think about this that detail really wasn’t necessary but I know he’s a good man and not the type to shame her for that but that was just a small thing that was touched on in our talk so I doubt he brings it up and I’ve made it clear to her I don’t think gay porn is wrong to be watching I just think the amount she consumes is the problem.
 
@Nekomander best of luck to you. I think if you still see signs of the real her or resistance to the cult, there is still hope. Some days it may be really rough, however, and others may be good. Just a question, has your fiancée been having any sleep issues that could be compounding stress?

It has been a rocky week with my wife.

We had a fight last weekend about one of the biggest elephants in the room- an old online MTF friend of hers whose social media content I find concerning. She swore that she only interacted with him on non troon related content, but dude’s account is a good 85% troon or commie-troon shit. Unless she is specifically blacklisting tags like “transmisogyny,” she is constantly being bombarded by that crap on her dash even when swiftly scrolling. It is unavoidable and unmistakable. She did not outright call me a terf or a monster, but was extremely upset that I did not think he was good for her mental health.

I am more concerned at the moment, however, about how she been experiencing severe sleep deprivation on top of everything. It has been aggravated by her experiencing graphic nightmares (many of which appear to involve me meeting a nasty end). These distress her to the point that she wakes up screaming and wanting to make sure I am not hurt before trying to go back to more poor sleep.

When she’s gotten actual quality sleep, she is more her usual self. On the flipside, when she has gotten absolutely zero sleep she is more prone to panic attacks or paranoia. She needs that checked out too along with any possible non pozzed couples counseling we can get. That’s the hardest part for me- even in her worst state I can tell she still cares for me and wants the relationship to work. If she really hated me, she wouldn’t be that disturbed at the idea of me dying.

Both of our best and worst qualities is that we are stubborn souls. This past month and a half has been a real test in faith of us and each other. As long as I see her spark, we can endure this. I sense this weekend will be better. Must clear some air first (and get some good sleep).

Day by day.
 
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