Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

Everyone I know who talks about this stuff in person hates trannies
The online/IRL public/private divide regarding the T question is massive.
Being one, I hang around furfags a lot, and you would be surprised about how pervasive shitting on troons is despite the community being a haven for degeneracy and troons... But do so ONLY IRL and without cameras, of course. No one would dare to say it on a place where records are kept (twatter) but feeling safe, many conversations devolve into KF-levels of shitting on troons.

People pay lip service. But most troons are labeled "problematic to be around" even by the people paying lip service to them.
 
So I follow several rat related yt channels. A couple weeks ago, the owner of my favourite channel announced that one of her girls had been diagnosed as intersex by a vet. As you might imagine, the channel's socials have been inundated by a tidal wave of qweeers babbling about representation and being affirmed, and every second or third one is saying, "I'm intersex too!"

Wankers.
 
So I follow several rat related yt channels. A couple weeks ago, the owner of my favourite channel announced that one of her girls had been diagnosed as intersex by a vet. As you might imagine, the channel's socials have been inundated by a tidal wave of qweeers babbling about representation and being affirmed, and every second or third one is saying, "I'm intersex too!"

Wankers.
"They're putting chemicals in the water turning the freaking frogs gay!"
"OMG I too am a victim of chemical warfare, thanks for the representation!"
 
Communities are dominated either numerically or politically by males with such poor self-image and such potent porn addictions that they think calling themselves women will make people like them, will make people think they've achieved something, will somehow give back years of their life and undo their baldness, their wrinkles, the fact they never had sex in high school.
@Three Gorillion Dollars Dude. No. Stop feeling sorry for trannies and assuming that they're doing this because they're sad. Women have had thousands of years being told they're responsible for all the ills of society in some way (original sin, single motherhood, whatever) and women, on the whole, take that drive to mean something and turn it into pro-social care for their community. Women are the majority of domestic workers, carers, volunteers, etc. Is that how trannies are reacting to feeling bad about themselves?

Trannies are masturbating because orgasm feels good and they're watching porn because it makes coom faster. It's literally as simple as porn brain-rot, applicable to the majority of the male population right now. Add on to that, half the time they're skinwalking someone they actually know because they'd take sexual control over her if they could but they can't.

Troons - and by this I mean both kinds - are people that want excessively high control over other people, and the current easiest way to do it is through pronouns. They are engaged in a narcissistic self-harm cycle simultaneously trying to become their projected external self and raging when they're reminded of their true selves, and feeling like they will be cleansed of their former inferiority through suffering. They are not just regular people who are sad about not having had sex in high school, they're sad about not having been the prom king quarterback in high school, because they think they can live a TV life. And their solution is to adopt a socially sanction new childhood where they get to be the prom queen cheerleader instead, because they all dehumanise women even more than men and think that women are femininity.
 
Because they're never done with being an activist. If they don't have a battle to fight, they'll just make it up.

It's why feminists will never fight FGM in a country that's actually dangerous to women, while at the same time complaining they can't have a second drink at a bar because men can't be trusted.

Activism in western nations is by and large bullshit.
As one wise Kiwi had said somwhere on forum, this perpetual search for an enemy is hard-wired into radical leftism since radical leftism was born as a revolutionary movement. Once upon a time, those guys indeed had something to fight for in the west like labor rights, women's rights, etc. but the problem is that the modern west offers such variety of rights to fucking everyone that any revolutionary movement in it is redunanant.
She cancelled her future appointments to the gender clinic and is honestly terrified of other therapy for depression that she had already scheduled.
Never go to any "gender clinics". You and your wife are humans equal to all the rest humans and therefore you should go your ordinary human clinic. Not gender, not "POC clinic", not "gender LGBTBBQ clinic". Just to a regular licensed clinic where your regular truckdriver Bob goes.
He's a smart dude. Graduated from a prestigious university with a STEM degree, and now he has a high paying job in their machine shop. Dude gets to play with the coolest cnc machines, lathes, 3d printers, all kinds of awesome shit.
What does he do with his high level of education, financial security, and respect from his peers?
He starts taking HRT and plans to get elective surgery.
STEM education makes you good in STEM and that is it. It doesn't grant you critical thinking, communication skills. emotional intellect (just you know that ability to understand people's signals), or basic self-esttem. The USSR used to praise itself for its "best in the world education" where everyone had some STEM degree. Yet, the same people ended up charging magical water in front of TV or loosing millions to autistic financial pyramids or believing in reptiloids or in any bullshit their govt feeds them. Does modern Russia strikes you as a highli intelectual society? Me neither., Fazit: Modern education sucks a cock.
 
@Three Gorillion Dollars Dude. No. Stop feeling sorry for trannies and assuming that they're doing this because they're sad. Women have had thousands of years being told they're responsible for all the ills of society in some way (original sin, single motherhood, whatever) and women, on the whole, take that drive to mean something and turn it into pro-social care for their community. Women are the majority of domestic workers, carers, volunteers, etc. Is that how trannies are reacting to feeling bad about themselves?
I don't feel sorry for them, I think it's deeply pathetic, in the contemptible sense not the pitiable sense, and I think any functioning peer group or wider society would help them being more well-adjusted instead of letting them marinate in these behaviors and the radioactive effects of being terminally online until they end up as the social equivalent of that guy who was melting to death in a Japanese hospital. Even if they were all really depressed and doing it for that reason, it wouldn't make them worth any kind of sympathy. But when I see thirty-something males dressing up in styles of fashion that seem better suited for teen girls, it's hard not to see it as wanting to become the teen girl who didn't fuck them in high school.
 
Never go to any "gender clinics". You and your wife are humans equal to all the rest humans and therefore you should go your ordinary human clinic. Not gender, not "POC clinic", not "gender LGBTBBQ clinic". Just to a regular licensed clinic where your regular truckdriver Bob goes.

She's seeing a therapist at an actual clinic now. Made damn sure to double check that she switched.

We've discussed it more together. She admitted that between work stress, severe insomnia, and a couple other health related factors, her old gender delusions re-emerged as escapist fantasies. Add the gender doctors adding fuel to the fire by claiming she was psychotic and she was getting genuinely mind fucked. She started snapping out of it once she saw how devastated I was.

Not saying we're completely out of the ballpark. Will probably never be. Taking it day by day. Still got a couple items on the proverbial checklist to cross out. I have reiterated that if she starts T in any form that I am leaving her for good, for one. She is more open to me discussing how fucked up cross sex hormones/the cult are. We have decided on no alcohol in the house for the time being. I’m seeing more of her spark that she started to lose while going to the gender hacks. If she starts straight up pooning, I’m running for the hills. Otherwise, I don’t feel hopeless at the moment.

As for the two “too far gone” pooners that I have mentioned in this thread-

1) the one that recently got top is still complaining of nipple pain and taking euphoric selfies in her dirty bathroom mirror. Regularly posts about how she feels so alone on social media now because she doesn’t feel validated enough online, I guess

2) the one that constantly reinvents herself and was convinced that Republicans in her southern state were going to take away her T and outright murder her for being trans within the next five years is one of those troons that has “fled” to Minnesota. She has changed her pronouns on social media to he/they and sees herself as nonbinary vs a trans man. Currently works at a random Starbucks to afford bottom surgery. Reminder that she is the one that got top (in her transphobic home state, no less) and never exposed her zipper tits to the world since they were that fucked afterwards
 
This is a lot to take in especially since we’re talking about someone I’ve spent half my life with so far but I will try my best.
You're only 25, you have the whole world ahead of you, even though it seems like right now at this moment your entire world is shattering.

On the flipside, you have known and been with her for so long, and never saw this coming? Then, how well did you really know her? I'm not asking to be condescending towards you, it's a genuine question for you to consider

It sucks right now, but it sucks to be married to someone who is deluded and so self-absorbed. In a marriage, one must consider the other. She doesn't care about your feelings as much as she does about your subservience to her detachment from reality. It's selfish. You deserve better.
 
On the flipside, you have known and been with her for so long, and never saw this coming? Then, how well did you really know her? I'm not asking to be condescending towards you, it's a genuine question for you to consider
The problem with long term relationships of any kind, especially ones that began early in life, is that you and your partner both as you change and grow older as you move into different areas of life and experience... but it can be hard to wrap your head around the concept that person you knew at age X is now entirely different at age Y. Your partner was amazing back then, and they still look, sound, smell like they did, but suddenly they're acting like an absolute cunt. They must be stressed out about something, there is no way that this shithead currently destroying your life is the real "them".

Pretty much everyone has a story of meeting their former best friend later in their life, and being shocked to discover that their sweet, caring childhood mate is now a bikie/junkie/wife beater/whatever.
 
Hi all, this is my first kiwifarms post. I was going to just lurk forever but this thread has inspired me to post here. Forgive me if any of this comes off retarded or hard to read, it's been awhile since I've posted on a forum of any kind. Additionally, if it sounds long winded its because its been pretty crappy and also I am a woman. But as my name suggests, my brother is indeed a full on brick.

This happened pre pandemic when I was living overseas and he trooned out. He started it by calling up all my family members to give us his big coming out speech, to which we were all either surprised or didn't care. I, being the supportive young lib I was, was shocked but responded kindly with support. I was kind of down for the cause back then, albeit completely ignorantly. I didn't anticipate him then coming out as "poly", saying he was separating with his fiance and was now in a troon/woman/troon relationship. I'll never forget the look on my dad's face when I told him who the married couple my brother was with in all his pictures.

Flash forward to when I'm back stateside and I can visually see his trooning. Ugly dresses, wearing wigs over his longtime bald head, ugly makeup and stealing my stuff when I had moved back in the family home temporarily. It was all there. Additionally, as his fiance had left him so he moved back home (rent free, of course, as he's a poor twans giwl). I had to pay rent, despite having no job (yet) as I was fresh off the boat so to speak. But what stuck out to me was his anger, his obvious aggression towards people in his life. Family, even. Stomping through the house, temper tantrum fits, and the big incident where my dad was in hospital recovering from a stroke had accidentally misgendered him when he went to pick him up. This caused my brother to have a whole meltdown. He cut my dad out for several months and said he was "done with him". That my dad was evil, transphobic, ect and raged at him in the hospital that day even. The red flags were pouring for me, yet still it didn't click for me (again, retarded).

It doesn't get better though, it gets worse. He stays in the poly relationship where essentially he was just intruding on a mentally ill straight marriage and then that falls apart (go figure). Then, my dad is set to move cross country and all of his kids agreed to help him. That is, me and my 2 brothers (including the brick). I show up, the other 2 do not. When they do, they break out into a big fight and leave again, just taking the furniture they want and head off, steaming. Whatever. Me and dad pull it off and pack him up. It was hot and hard, and my dad was elderly and in poor health. But we did it, right? No. My dad died 2 days into his road trip. His heart gave out. I felt strongly like if he had been helped, he wouldn't have exhausted himself. It was wrong to leave him last minute to do it himself. I told my brother to his face for the first time ever I believe this was "male entitlement" and a woman would not have had the rage fit that lead to abandoning her dad. Terfy, yeah probably, but I was early 20s still by this point so whatever. This prompted him to grab me by the shirt and pull a fist on me in front of my mom and brother. I just told him "Is that what you really want to do?" And he smartly retracted. I have avoided speaking to him at all costs since, except the time he reached out to me on TDOV to say he'd "do it again to anyone that got in my ...." Nowadays, he just denies it ever happened. In the minds of my family, I was the aggressor. They turn my one word "MALE" into an hour long speech about how he'll never be a woman and use that to justify my brothers infantile violence. They blame me, and it's been quite a trip to see them turn on me from the quiet, liberal feminist they knew to being some ultra trump magatard just because of that one word I said "MALE". It's been years and they still try to gender him as he wishes, despite him dressing mostly male now, wearing no makeup and usually never any wig. So he looks as most men his age look, just with a fake nasally voice and his fat slightly distributed different.

I lost my brother that day, but I've been free ever since. I didn't really lose any other family from it, but I'm aware I'm seen as basically the devil now because of it. I didn't tow the party line. But honestly, I wouldn't change it for anything.

Thanks for reading, if you have any questions feel free to ask here or DMs
 
Yeah, that's the norm, unfortunately

So, was he autistic or what?
No, just the standard "ADHD" excuse every millennial has. I think he's a narcissist. This behavior is common when you pop the troons narc bubble. You even slightly suggest their manufactured porn created alter ego is fake and they break out into a narc rage. You can't even slightly slip up with pronouns or anything and their mask slips, suddenly you're the enemy and they want you dead. Even if it's their mom, sister, child, best friend, doesn't matter.
 
So what is a bikie? Someone who thinks they're a bike?

I think "bikie" is Australian for biker gang members. The real criminal 1% and not the posers who just like patches and targeted shirts.
You’re correct in that they are usually biker gang members (think Hell’s Angels, Gypsy Jokers and Comancheroes etc). Make no mistake those gangs are criminal dens. There’s very little redeeming factors about anyone wearing a patch that goes beyond loyalty to the gang and it’s members. Even the Ulysses Club that is for more mature riders (aka Old Farts) has the motto of “growing up disgracefully”.

Any rider not wearing a gang patch is just a motorcyclist.
 
I feel like I need to update you guys, but I not sure what exactly to report.
We've spent a lot of time supporting and helping our daughter. We've had the girls a lot more and assured her that we will be there when she needs help.
I tried to bring up the gender shit she dropped on us but she just sidestepped it.
When I pushed the issue she simply said she was feeling desperate and wanted to let me know how she was feeling.
I have never felt such a mixture of relief, frustration, and anger before. I actually felt ill from it. She has no idea how badly she scared me even with us talking about custody etc. I'm still reeling from it. I will be having the girls for weekends like I said, but it will be a while before I can get past this and have a close relationship with my daughter again. For her to flippantly envoke something that is one of my worst nightmares is something I won't forget in a hurry.
 
my dad was in hospital recovering from a stroke had accidentally misgendered him when he went to pick him up. This caused my brother to have a whole meltdown. He cut my dad out for several months and said he was "done with him".
Holy fuck im MATI rn, this is disgusting. You sound like a much more rounded human being than your brother ever will be, male or female-skinwalking not withstanding.
 
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