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Perfect she will be using this stupid dyke haircut from the flashbacks, it's looks terrible.
Rebel Moon - Star Wars But Not Star Wars
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Has anyone bothered to watch this thing? Consensus seems to be it's worse than part 1.
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This looks like Warhammer novel cover art, minus all the bling
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The buzz for this shit is already gone, lol.
Literally no one I know cares about this disjointed unoriginal crap. Why would Netflix bother doing this for Snyder?
Literally no one I know cares about this disjointed unoriginal crap. Why would Netflix bother doing this for Snyder?
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I haven't watched either. I actually like Snyder stuff. I'm just waiting until the extended /director cut or whatever they'll be called editions get released at the end of the summer.
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I honestly can’t tell if he’s just that egotistical or just that stupid.
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The guy is pretentious as fuck. Thinks he's making high art when in reality his movies have been degrading in quality over time to the point where they basically are the "Happy Meal" slop he's railing against.
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What a retard. One of the main contentions against Rebel Moon is that it's a hodgepodge of borrowed ideas and generic tropes. A focus group couldn't have made anything more generic or worse than he did.
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Doubt Part Two will reverse the fortunes of the project. High potential for a big financial bust for Netflix here.
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I understand why he said that. It's very pretentious but I've heard of this before. Not coincidental that I heard this same exact line of thinking from another guy who I thought was massively pretentious. But basically it's this: studio's don't want to support original IP's and instead want to go with established IP's so there's less risk involved. Snyder is basically just saying "support original shit or you will just get more of the same old crap." Which is true to an extent but the problem here is in not so much the phrasing but that the filmmaker (and the fanboy in my old encounter) places the blame on the audience which isn't fair for obvious reasons but owes to Hollywood brain rot.
Focus groups can produce some astonishing bullshit:
Example: Master & Commander: the Far Side of the World underperforms, the powers that be don't see it like "Well, I guess if we went with a bigger actor or had a bigger marketing push or chose a better release window or scaled back the budget when appropriate we could have hit it out of the park." They don't see it that way. They see it as "Joe Blow doesn't want to see films about pirates or sea captains." And that's also true to an extent because you see it with Zoomers just not connecting to Westerns for example.
I understand what he said but he phrased it very poorly.
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If my only choices are a plate full of shit or a bowl ful of shit, I'll probably just choose a different restaurant.
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The problem is Snyder does make the same old crap. He's made either franchise movies or franchise movies with the name written over. Him trying to say Rebel Moon is original is like trying to say Atlantis Rim is original because it's technically not just Pacific Rim.
His most original movie is probably Sucker Punch. Which was just noise, albeit somewhat pretty looking noise.
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Funnily enough, Master & Commander was released around the same time that Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl was released.
Just because they’re off control from the focus groups and producers doesn’t change that these films still have to be good. It’s the same with those people making the “anti-woke” films. Sure, that’s fine and dandy, but are they good? Or would you just excuse the lack of quality in a film or show this way?
And admittedly, there are a few times where studio interference can lead to great ideas; look at Layer Cake. Studio decisions led the creators to get creative with how they handle them. Unfortunately, Zack does not have that talent, with or without interference.
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One only needs to look at the legacy of Kickstarter to see how much of a myth is "just give free reign to the director" is - Lots of undelivered projects that are at best mediocre if they ever come out at all. And with a lot of previously famous creators it's just a worse reskin of their more famous work.
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Saw part 2. Breakdown and review below with spoilers blurred.
Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver's story is not as stupid or contrived as Part 1 largely because it doesn't have one - the whole film is a 3 act battle sequence between a Medieval village of about 100 farmers vs. a space dreadnought capable of subjugating planets. It's a lot more contained, a lot more makes sense and a lot less material feels like it was cut. However, dialogue and certain editing choices imply there is a lot of hidden gore that was likely in the original, so expect that R-rated version later.
Robot Anthony Hopkins (missing from the last three quarters of the previous film) does the recap using names and words that only aren't laughable because they're spoken by Anthony Hopkins. A warship from the Evil Roman Empire, the most advanced of its kind and led by Slimy Admiral (played by Game of Throne's Dario Naharis' first actor), has been sent to a distant planet and forces a village that doesn't even have electricity to hand over their entire harvest of grain or face annihilation. Two villagers, Main Action Girl, a runaway soldier from the Evil Roman Empire, and Some Guy, a random villager who tags along (played by Game of Throne's Dario Naharis' second actor), go on a quest to find fighters to protect their village. They pick up;
- Prince Punjab, a royal in exile who is contractually obligated to not wear clothing above the waist (also played by a Game of Thrones actor)
- General Loser, a "genius" who has spent all his prior screentime getting drunk, getting duped and being largely useless
- Madam Teppanyaki, a woman with two cybernetic hands and swords that work exclusively in slow motion
- Anisa Johma, a lieutenant from Space Antifa aka. The Resistance, with a buzzcut and appalling taste in gender neutral cloths
- Private Chigga, a soldier of the Evil Roman Empire who defected after being bullied by his squad for the crime of not being a sociopathic asshole
Slimy Admiral, who had been killed in Part 1, is back alive because of some reasons. Despite having multiple bones broken before falling hundreds of feet down into a rocky beach, his lasting injury is a scar on his chest, and brands Main Action Girl the 'Scargiver'. Later after recovering, he is reminded of his wound and brands her 'Scargiver', again. His warship will arrive at her village in 5 days.
Back at the village without electricity, Private Chigga, despite all his squadmates being dead, has managed to stay in remote contact with the Evil Roman Empire and convinced them that everything is normal, while romancing a village girl (that his squad had tried to rape) entirely through the medium of meaningful eye contact and slow motion. He alerts the arriving protagonists about Slimy Admiral's survival and they prepare the defense a la The Seven Samurai.
Main Action Girl and Some Guy shack up, and she reveals that she was part of the conspiracy to murder the old royal family, specifically the princess who she was charged with personally protecting, under the orders of her evil adoptive father senator, now regent. Sinister Beardy. The senate, complete with white togas, all stab the king Caeser style (while an orchestra in the room plays the soundtrack), but when Sinister Beardy tries to frame her despite there being literally no outside witnesses, she almost kills him, but relents, gun-kataing her way out of the room, orchestra still playing the soundtrack.
General Loser decides to harvest the crops and process them in to grain in three days (which had previously been established would actually take several weeks) and store it around the village to prevent the Evil Roman Empire from simply bombarding them from orbit. All the protagonists suddenly know how to harvest wheat and a montage happens where they do so with hand-held scythes and flails while dumping it onto an anti-gravity flatbed because somebody remembered this was supposed to be science fiction. Madam Teppanyaki starts having eye-contact interactions with a small child. While the intent is obviously to communicate a longing for her lost motherhood, a) there cannot be any unparented children in this village of 100 people, and b) her reactions and facial expressions would imply something else if they were directed at anyone other than a child. General Loser, an alcoholic who drinks from a hip flask, starts drinking water. Meanwhile, Slimy Admiral has figured out Private Chigga has turned traitor because Private Chigga had made the mistake of uncharacteristically acting like an asshole. At a feast, the girl Private Chigga has his eye on makes them all a bunch of ugly teatowels. General Loser sings something that might be in a real language.
The heroes teach the villagers how to use the weapons left behind by Private Chigga's squad as well as their own firearms, despite it having been established that nobody in the village had ever encountered a weapon before. The squad's bloody uniforms are brought up too which is a plot point later. As it turns out, the villagers are all expert first-time sword and markspeople. They create defensive trenches and build barricades for "cover", as well as a tunnel system that would make the North Vietnamese jealous. In addition, Main Action Girl's dropship, the one she first arrived on the planet in, which has been sitting in a ditch out in the open for "two seasons", is dragged out and is found to be in perfect working order. The dropship is hidden behind a waterfall, where Main Action Girl meets Robot Anthony Hopkins who has been watching them this whole time. He tells her that for the first time he is full of hope - and also that resistance is useless and they have no chance of winning.
The eve before battle, General Loser bids them all tell their backstories. He confesses he refused an order to attack a planet and revolted, and has a result had his loyal soldiers orbital bombarded a few hundred feet in front of him. Prince Punjab, after watching his mother, dressed as Queen Victoria, throw herself off a balcony in slow motion against an apocalyptic backdrop of dreadnoughts, gunships, griffons and collapsing skyscrapers, sighs and slowly and mournfully walks away while wearing a tweed fedora. Anisa Johma, enslaved and working in a quarry, watches as her nearby guards are precision carpet-bombed and is rescued by Space Antifa. Madam Teppanyaki, after her wooden fishing village is sacked, remembers she's in a science fiction movie and uncovers a set of cybernetic gauntlets from her ancestors. She cuts off her right arm, and after a jump cut, is shown to be fitting her right arm with a gauntlet with her other already gauntleted hand, which means she must have cut both arms off before attaching either gauntlet. All four affirm that they will not surrender or show no mercy to the forces of the Evil Roman Empire, so it's probably just as well that Private Chigga is the only protagonist not in on the conversation. It should also be noted that despite the villagers all wearing mostly Medieval style peasant clothing, at least three of the heroes are wearing what are clearly t-shirts.
Main Action Girl points out General Loser has been pretending to drink from his hip-flask to convince them he cares or something, when in fact he has only been drinking water. Prince Punjab confirms this (or might be feinting?). Anyone who has ever dealt with alcoholism knows that this is not how any of it works.
Slimy Admiral's warship arrives at the village and despite having been expecting it for 5 days, General Loser is shocked and sounds the alarm. Slimy Admiral, using Battlefield 4 wallhacks, detects the grain being stored in the center of the village and also that the women and children are taking refuge in the Longhouse. Because Madam Teppanyaki, the woman with the laser swords, is guarding the Longhouse, he sends elite troops also armed with laser swords to capture them to use as leverage. A massive force of gunships and dropships land several squads of troops and armored mechanized walkers in full view of the village. Slimy Admiral explains his plan to Main Action Girl and tells her to surrender, who, despite a) knowing the women and children are defended, and b) knowing that the Evil Roman Empire is evil and will likely massacre them anyway, she does - but Some Guy gives the signal against her wishes and a villager lifts up a manhole nearby and fires a rocket launcher at one of the transports, scattering the troops. Another villager throws a bunch of grenades at another dropship before it can leave. In the chaos, Slimy Admiral, pouting, literally hops down the manhole into the tunnel system and starts killing villagers bare-fisted, while Some Guy takes Main Action Girl to her hidden dropship.
While Madam Teppanyaki (now deflecting gunfire lightsaber style), Private Chigga and a bunch of girls with rifles massacre the Evil Roman Empire's elite troops, Prince Punjab and General Loser lead a charge, toward a bridge chokehold, against hundreds of troops with automatic weapons, and engage in hand-to-hand combat, the "cover" that was carefully set up and mentioned apparently completely forgotten. Slimy Admiral slouches off back to a dropship and retreats, fighting and killing a villager and kicking him off while at it. This section of the battle is ended when the villagers in the tunnel system detonate explosives that completely annihilate all remaining enemy troops. The villagers cheer until they see one of the armored mechs that have apparently been sitting idle for the last ten minutes, accompanied by hundreds more troopers that walk very slowly in the open toward the village, occasionally firing their weapons. Madam Teppanyaki is killed by the final trooper in the Longhouse and the small child she was making eye contact with bursts into tears over a character he has literally never exchanged words with before.
In maybe the smartest part of the film, Main Action Girl and Some Guy fly their dropship in formation with Slimy Admiral's two remaining transports, and Some Guy releases a smoke grenade that allows them to feign damage and casualties, and they are guided remotely to the medical bay. Disguised with the bloodshot uniforms of Private Chigga's squadmates, they murder the medics because they're heros in a Zack Snyder film and stealthily infiltrate the ship by firing their unsilenced weapons at literally everyone they come across. Main Action Girl eventually reaches a reactor of some sort, and plants a bunch of very obvious looking explosives, before jumping down into the coal-powered engines, killing all the workers and finally alerting Slimy Admiral to her presence on his ship. In response, he, inexplicably, decides that the grain is no longer needed, as their target is already aboard. He orders an orbital strike on the village, neither caring that his forces are still there, nor apparently realizing that doing this at the very beginning would have saved him a lot of trouble. The firing sequence, previously shown to be undertaken in seconds, now takes several minutes before the battery even moves. Meanwhile, Some Guy sneaks aboard a different dropship and waits for her. He can't fly it, so it's now very unclear why he came at all.
Anisa Johma, tired of firing her gun at armored assault walkers to no effect, takes what is apparently a hidden sewer entrance into the tunnel system, finds a rocket launcher, and blows up the mech from behind, to be joined by Prince Punjab. However, a second mech emerges from the smoke, with dozens more troopers very slowly walking in the open. After having exchanged literally no other words the entire film, they both agree to go down together. However, they are saved from imminent non-destruction by Robot Anthony Hopkins, who punches all the troopers, gets inside the mech, finds a grenade already inside, pulls the pin, and jumps out.
Main Action Girl gun katas her way through dozens of troopers and an elite guard. She takes his sword, but it electrocutes her for no reason, so she has to wrap the handle with cloth, no doubt making some weebs somewhere very happy. Slimy Admiral confronts her and monologues. Meanwhile, a bunch of troopers investigating the reactor she rigged find the sack where her explosives were stashed, and only when they light up and beep as the ship is about to fire do they very slowly turn around and see the explosives right next to them, which promptly explode. The warship pitches to a 90 degree angle and plummets to the ground. Main Action Girl and Slimy Admiral have a sword fight as they slide down the now vertical hanger bay, vehicles falling and crashing around them. Slimy Admiral is about to choke Main Action Girl to death, but is stabbed in the chest by Some Guy, and he falls off her. She takes the sword from him and beheads Slimy Admiral, defeating him until his return in Rebel Moon Part 3: The Denogginator. AKA, Dario Naharis kills Dario Naharis.
They clamber into a dropship that somehow still works despite having slide down a vertical ganger bay hundreds of feet and crashed into solid metal, and fly out as the warship hits the ground and explodes. Some Guy dies from some gunshot wound in Main Action Girl's arms as Space Antifa arrives late to the party and massacres the remaining enemy ships and troops. The hold a vigil for the dead that night, where General Loser reveals, after all this time, that the royal princess is not in fact dead, something he proceeds to not explain - Main Action Girl doesn't even ask him how he knows this information that changes her entire set of motives. The heroes, joined by Robot Anthony Hopkins, agree to a new quest to 'find' the princess and fight or something. Credits.
This film is 'better' if only because it delivers what you actually expect Zack Snyder films to be like - flashy, stylized, stupid action. The visuals are inconsistent but paradoxically better in places. There are a few cool shots and on occasion almost threatens to look photorealistic. That said, it's still ugly in many places, and some of the shots of the battle walker look like they're from old PS4 console games. The trademark slow motion now appears almost at complete random. When Snyder talks about 'mature', I guess he actually means is unsanitized - this film is probably a bloodbath in the R-rated version, especially with how much hand-to-hand there is. The bulk of the film takes place in the village, where it feels like much of the budget was probably saved given how it feels like a disused soundstage with leftover props from a different movie. Despite the Pig Latin and Warhammer 40k comparisons, the compact, rounded, bell like designs of the Evil Roman Empire ships and vehicles as well as the uniforms are very Soviet - Sinister Beardy even looks like Rasputin, which may be a Current Thing statement - which would also be a bit worrying, because in many ways the moral message of the film is really quite suspect. The heroes know that the Evil Roman Empire is evil because it operates under a conspiracy, and also know multiple soldiers of that empire that have gained a conscience and defected, and yet resolve to massacre every single one of those soldiers without a second thought.
The way firefights are handled in this film is so ludicrous it would take only a few minor edits to turn it into a parody. While in Part 1 characters did make use of cover, in Part 2 they drop all pretense of realism and literally stand out in the open, amidst a blinding rain of automatic gunfire that is shown to melt stone, and do whatever they like, then somehow have the gall to act like they're in any danger. Anisa Johma is even firing her gun exposing herself from a position that would have been otherwise very useful cover. This dynamic works in films with armies in close combat (such as John Woo's Red Cliff or Snyder's own 300) because it's believable that a skilled or strong enough character can control and fend off multiple weaker opponents at once, but it simply looks unreal when you're dealing with the great equalizer of firearms. There are points where characters unironically look like they have aimbots.
The film isn't quite 'woke', in that Main Action Girl is actually overpowered by Slimy Admiral, necessitating she be saved by Some Guy, the traditional love interest. That said, while the film features muscular, male characters undertaking the bulk of the action and heroics in the film, all the white characters who fall under this description are dead by the end. Also to note is that every member, from soldier to senator, of the Evil Roman Empire is a white male - the SOLE exception apparently being Private Chigga, so...yeah. I guess this is a result of Snyder's decision to not be influenced by 'focus groups'.
There's also so little exploration of the bare character development they've done. Main Action Girl and General Loser, despite their knowledge of the conspiracy at the heart of Evil Roman Empire, never try and entreaty Slimy Admiral with the truth, who is sadistic and power hungry but not shown to be corrupt, and is in fact under pressure from Sinister Beardy to complete a mission under false pretenses. The side stories with Private Chigga and Madam Teppanyaki are conducted wordlessly, almost as if to say, 'you know what's going on, lets skip past this as fast as possible'. I will say, Main Action Girl is portrayed a bit more convincingly. The actress is a believable, if not hugely interesting action heroine and could probably do better with stuff that actually bothered to make her into a proper character. General Loser's actor is given the opportunity to show emotion, be interesting and even sing, even though the stakes that his character is dedicating his "genius" toward is literally a pile of grain in this 'mature' space opera that was meant to rival Star Wars.
Overall I wasn't bored, there's a bit more setup and payoff, and there are a few little moments and twists that were amusing, and I personally think it's better than Part 1, but Zack Snyder is as delusional as ever if he still somehow thinks he's making high art.
Robot Anthony Hopkins (missing from the last three quarters of the previous film) does the recap using names and words that only aren't laughable because they're spoken by Anthony Hopkins. A warship from the Evil Roman Empire, the most advanced of its kind and led by Slimy Admiral (played by Game of Throne's Dario Naharis' first actor), has been sent to a distant planet and forces a village that doesn't even have electricity to hand over their entire harvest of grain or face annihilation. Two villagers, Main Action Girl, a runaway soldier from the Evil Roman Empire, and Some Guy, a random villager who tags along (played by Game of Throne's Dario Naharis' second actor), go on a quest to find fighters to protect their village. They pick up;
- Prince Punjab, a royal in exile who is contractually obligated to not wear clothing above the waist (also played by a Game of Thrones actor)
- General Loser, a "genius" who has spent all his prior screentime getting drunk, getting duped and being largely useless
- Madam Teppanyaki, a woman with two cybernetic hands and swords that work exclusively in slow motion
- Anisa Johma, a lieutenant from Space Antifa aka. The Resistance, with a buzzcut and appalling taste in gender neutral cloths
- Private Chigga, a soldier of the Evil Roman Empire who defected after being bullied by his squad for the crime of not being a sociopathic asshole
Slimy Admiral, who had been killed in Part 1, is back alive because of some reasons. Despite having multiple bones broken before falling hundreds of feet down into a rocky beach, his lasting injury is a scar on his chest, and brands Main Action Girl the 'Scargiver'. Later after recovering, he is reminded of his wound and brands her 'Scargiver', again. His warship will arrive at her village in 5 days.
Back at the village without electricity, Private Chigga, despite all his squadmates being dead, has managed to stay in remote contact with the Evil Roman Empire and convinced them that everything is normal, while romancing a village girl (that his squad had tried to rape) entirely through the medium of meaningful eye contact and slow motion. He alerts the arriving protagonists about Slimy Admiral's survival and they prepare the defense a la The Seven Samurai.
Main Action Girl and Some Guy shack up, and she reveals that she was part of the conspiracy to murder the old royal family, specifically the princess who she was charged with personally protecting, under the orders of her evil adoptive father senator, now regent. Sinister Beardy. The senate, complete with white togas, all stab the king Caeser style (while an orchestra in the room plays the soundtrack), but when Sinister Beardy tries to frame her despite there being literally no outside witnesses, she almost kills him, but relents, gun-kataing her way out of the room, orchestra still playing the soundtrack.
General Loser decides to harvest the crops and process them in to grain in three days (which had previously been established would actually take several weeks) and store it around the village to prevent the Evil Roman Empire from simply bombarding them from orbit. All the protagonists suddenly know how to harvest wheat and a montage happens where they do so with hand-held scythes and flails while dumping it onto an anti-gravity flatbed because somebody remembered this was supposed to be science fiction. Madam Teppanyaki starts having eye-contact interactions with a small child. While the intent is obviously to communicate a longing for her lost motherhood, a) there cannot be any unparented children in this village of 100 people, and b) her reactions and facial expressions would imply something else if they were directed at anyone other than a child. General Loser, an alcoholic who drinks from a hip flask, starts drinking water. Meanwhile, Slimy Admiral has figured out Private Chigga has turned traitor because Private Chigga had made the mistake of uncharacteristically acting like an asshole. At a feast, the girl Private Chigga has his eye on makes them all a bunch of ugly teatowels. General Loser sings something that might be in a real language.
The heroes teach the villagers how to use the weapons left behind by Private Chigga's squad as well as their own firearms, despite it having been established that nobody in the village had ever encountered a weapon before. The squad's bloody uniforms are brought up too which is a plot point later. As it turns out, the villagers are all expert first-time sword and markspeople. They create defensive trenches and build barricades for "cover", as well as a tunnel system that would make the North Vietnamese jealous. In addition, Main Action Girl's dropship, the one she first arrived on the planet in, which has been sitting in a ditch out in the open for "two seasons", is dragged out and is found to be in perfect working order. The dropship is hidden behind a waterfall, where Main Action Girl meets Robot Anthony Hopkins who has been watching them this whole time. He tells her that for the first time he is full of hope - and also that resistance is useless and they have no chance of winning.
The eve before battle, General Loser bids them all tell their backstories. He confesses he refused an order to attack a planet and revolted, and has a result had his loyal soldiers orbital bombarded a few hundred feet in front of him. Prince Punjab, after watching his mother, dressed as Queen Victoria, throw herself off a balcony in slow motion against an apocalyptic backdrop of dreadnoughts, gunships, griffons and collapsing skyscrapers, sighs and slowly and mournfully walks away while wearing a tweed fedora. Anisa Johma, enslaved and working in a quarry, watches as her nearby guards are precision carpet-bombed and is rescued by Space Antifa. Madam Teppanyaki, after her wooden fishing village is sacked, remembers she's in a science fiction movie and uncovers a set of cybernetic gauntlets from her ancestors. She cuts off her right arm, and after a jump cut, is shown to be fitting her right arm with a gauntlet with her other already gauntleted hand, which means she must have cut both arms off before attaching either gauntlet. All four affirm that they will not surrender or show no mercy to the forces of the Evil Roman Empire, so it's probably just as well that Private Chigga is the only protagonist not in on the conversation. It should also be noted that despite the villagers all wearing mostly Medieval style peasant clothing, at least three of the heroes are wearing what are clearly t-shirts.
Main Action Girl points out General Loser has been pretending to drink from his hip-flask to convince them he cares or something, when in fact he has only been drinking water. Prince Punjab confirms this (or might be feinting?). Anyone who has ever dealt with alcoholism knows that this is not how any of it works.
Slimy Admiral's warship arrives at the village and despite having been expecting it for 5 days, General Loser is shocked and sounds the alarm. Slimy Admiral, using Battlefield 4 wallhacks, detects the grain being stored in the center of the village and also that the women and children are taking refuge in the Longhouse. Because Madam Teppanyaki, the woman with the laser swords, is guarding the Longhouse, he sends elite troops also armed with laser swords to capture them to use as leverage. A massive force of gunships and dropships land several squads of troops and armored mechanized walkers in full view of the village. Slimy Admiral explains his plan to Main Action Girl and tells her to surrender, who, despite a) knowing the women and children are defended, and b) knowing that the Evil Roman Empire is evil and will likely massacre them anyway, she does - but Some Guy gives the signal against her wishes and a villager lifts up a manhole nearby and fires a rocket launcher at one of the transports, scattering the troops. Another villager throws a bunch of grenades at another dropship before it can leave. In the chaos, Slimy Admiral, pouting, literally hops down the manhole into the tunnel system and starts killing villagers bare-fisted, while Some Guy takes Main Action Girl to her hidden dropship.
While Madam Teppanyaki (now deflecting gunfire lightsaber style), Private Chigga and a bunch of girls with rifles massacre the Evil Roman Empire's elite troops, Prince Punjab and General Loser lead a charge, toward a bridge chokehold, against hundreds of troops with automatic weapons, and engage in hand-to-hand combat, the "cover" that was carefully set up and mentioned apparently completely forgotten. Slimy Admiral slouches off back to a dropship and retreats, fighting and killing a villager and kicking him off while at it. This section of the battle is ended when the villagers in the tunnel system detonate explosives that completely annihilate all remaining enemy troops. The villagers cheer until they see one of the armored mechs that have apparently been sitting idle for the last ten minutes, accompanied by hundreds more troopers that walk very slowly in the open toward the village, occasionally firing their weapons. Madam Teppanyaki is killed by the final trooper in the Longhouse and the small child she was making eye contact with bursts into tears over a character he has literally never exchanged words with before.
In maybe the smartest part of the film, Main Action Girl and Some Guy fly their dropship in formation with Slimy Admiral's two remaining transports, and Some Guy releases a smoke grenade that allows them to feign damage and casualties, and they are guided remotely to the medical bay. Disguised with the bloodshot uniforms of Private Chigga's squadmates, they murder the medics because they're heros in a Zack Snyder film and stealthily infiltrate the ship by firing their unsilenced weapons at literally everyone they come across. Main Action Girl eventually reaches a reactor of some sort, and plants a bunch of very obvious looking explosives, before jumping down into the coal-powered engines, killing all the workers and finally alerting Slimy Admiral to her presence on his ship. In response, he, inexplicably, decides that the grain is no longer needed, as their target is already aboard. He orders an orbital strike on the village, neither caring that his forces are still there, nor apparently realizing that doing this at the very beginning would have saved him a lot of trouble. The firing sequence, previously shown to be undertaken in seconds, now takes several minutes before the battery even moves. Meanwhile, Some Guy sneaks aboard a different dropship and waits for her. He can't fly it, so it's now very unclear why he came at all.
Anisa Johma, tired of firing her gun at armored assault walkers to no effect, takes what is apparently a hidden sewer entrance into the tunnel system, finds a rocket launcher, and blows up the mech from behind, to be joined by Prince Punjab. However, a second mech emerges from the smoke, with dozens more troopers very slowly walking in the open. After having exchanged literally no other words the entire film, they both agree to go down together. However, they are saved from imminent non-destruction by Robot Anthony Hopkins, who punches all the troopers, gets inside the mech, finds a grenade already inside, pulls the pin, and jumps out.
Main Action Girl gun katas her way through dozens of troopers and an elite guard. She takes his sword, but it electrocutes her for no reason, so she has to wrap the handle with cloth, no doubt making some weebs somewhere very happy. Slimy Admiral confronts her and monologues. Meanwhile, a bunch of troopers investigating the reactor she rigged find the sack where her explosives were stashed, and only when they light up and beep as the ship is about to fire do they very slowly turn around and see the explosives right next to them, which promptly explode. The warship pitches to a 90 degree angle and plummets to the ground. Main Action Girl and Slimy Admiral have a sword fight as they slide down the now vertical hanger bay, vehicles falling and crashing around them. Slimy Admiral is about to choke Main Action Girl to death, but is stabbed in the chest by Some Guy, and he falls off her. She takes the sword from him and beheads Slimy Admiral, defeating him until his return in Rebel Moon Part 3: The Denogginator. AKA, Dario Naharis kills Dario Naharis.
They clamber into a dropship that somehow still works despite having slide down a vertical ganger bay hundreds of feet and crashed into solid metal, and fly out as the warship hits the ground and explodes. Some Guy dies from some gunshot wound in Main Action Girl's arms as Space Antifa arrives late to the party and massacres the remaining enemy ships and troops. The hold a vigil for the dead that night, where General Loser reveals, after all this time, that the royal princess is not in fact dead, something he proceeds to not explain - Main Action Girl doesn't even ask him how he knows this information that changes her entire set of motives. The heroes, joined by Robot Anthony Hopkins, agree to a new quest to 'find' the princess and fight or something. Credits.
This film is 'better' if only because it delivers what you actually expect Zack Snyder films to be like - flashy, stylized, stupid action. The visuals are inconsistent but paradoxically better in places. There are a few cool shots and on occasion almost threatens to look photorealistic. That said, it's still ugly in many places, and some of the shots of the battle walker look like they're from old PS4 console games. The trademark slow motion now appears almost at complete random. When Snyder talks about 'mature', I guess he actually means is unsanitized - this film is probably a bloodbath in the R-rated version, especially with how much hand-to-hand there is. The bulk of the film takes place in the village, where it feels like much of the budget was probably saved given how it feels like a disused soundstage with leftover props from a different movie. Despite the Pig Latin and Warhammer 40k comparisons, the compact, rounded, bell like designs of the Evil Roman Empire ships and vehicles as well as the uniforms are very Soviet - Sinister Beardy even looks like Rasputin, which may be a Current Thing statement - which would also be a bit worrying, because in many ways the moral message of the film is really quite suspect. The heroes know that the Evil Roman Empire is evil because it operates under a conspiracy, and also know multiple soldiers of that empire that have gained a conscience and defected, and yet resolve to massacre every single one of those soldiers without a second thought.
The way firefights are handled in this film is so ludicrous it would take only a few minor edits to turn it into a parody. While in Part 1 characters did make use of cover, in Part 2 they drop all pretense of realism and literally stand out in the open, amidst a blinding rain of automatic gunfire that is shown to melt stone, and do whatever they like, then somehow have the gall to act like they're in any danger. Anisa Johma is even firing her gun exposing herself from a position that would have been otherwise very useful cover. This dynamic works in films with armies in close combat (such as John Woo's Red Cliff or Snyder's own 300) because it's believable that a skilled or strong enough character can control and fend off multiple weaker opponents at once, but it simply looks unreal when you're dealing with the great equalizer of firearms. There are points where characters unironically look like they have aimbots.
The film isn't quite 'woke', in that Main Action Girl is actually overpowered by Slimy Admiral, necessitating she be saved by Some Guy, the traditional love interest. That said, while the film features muscular, male characters undertaking the bulk of the action and heroics in the film, all the white characters who fall under this description are dead by the end. Also to note is that every member, from soldier to senator, of the Evil Roman Empire is a white male - the SOLE exception apparently being Private Chigga, so...yeah. I guess this is a result of Snyder's decision to not be influenced by 'focus groups'.
There's also so little exploration of the bare character development they've done. Main Action Girl and General Loser, despite their knowledge of the conspiracy at the heart of Evil Roman Empire, never try and entreaty Slimy Admiral with the truth, who is sadistic and power hungry but not shown to be corrupt, and is in fact under pressure from Sinister Beardy to complete a mission under false pretenses. The side stories with Private Chigga and Madam Teppanyaki are conducted wordlessly, almost as if to say, 'you know what's going on, lets skip past this as fast as possible'. I will say, Main Action Girl is portrayed a bit more convincingly. The actress is a believable, if not hugely interesting action heroine and could probably do better with stuff that actually bothered to make her into a proper character. General Loser's actor is given the opportunity to show emotion, be interesting and even sing, even though the stakes that his character is dedicating his "genius" toward is literally a pile of grain in this 'mature' space opera that was meant to rival Star Wars.
Overall I wasn't bored, there's a bit more setup and payoff, and there are a few little moments and twists that were amusing, and I personally think it's better than Part 1, but Zack Snyder is as delusional as ever if he still somehow thinks he's making high art.
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You know, I just remembered there was already a sci-fi anime version of Seven Samurai made like two decades or so ago.
Fuck me, I’m old.
Fuck me, I’m old.
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This summary might be one of the most retarded things I've ever read. If you want to ripoff 40K at least do it correctly with the scale.
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And it ran into the same problems these movies did. No one in either production asked, "How do peasants fight a giant spaceship/giant robots?" To which the answer would have been AA railguns.
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To be fair, the anime had a cyborg dude pick up a giant sword made for mechas and cut the capital ship in half at the cost of his own life. That was pretty cool.