Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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Glad I wasn't the only one having troubles reading this part. I had to re-read some of the stuff like three or four times to make sure I was reading correctly. Her writing is atrocious, either that or her ghost writer is really bad.
She tries to cram too many movements into one sentence, which causes her to lose sight of the subject. This makes it very difficult for readers to assign actions to the right actors. It's a common error for amateur writers, who don't have a strong sense of how sentence structure affects pacing, or how moving too quickly will scramble our sense of whose point-of-view we are in.

"Legs up, spread wide, the cold metal speculum stretched me open, separating the inside of my vagina."

The speculum's legs are not spread wide. Ellen's are. She thinks just listing sensations or observations will make it feel real, as if we are experiencing things in the exact way she felt them. But if she is not structuring those observations and grouping them together by character or by physical space, we can't make sense of the experiences. It should be something like--

"Legs up, spread wide, I lay perfectly still on the examination table. The cold metal speculum stretched me open, separating the inside of my vagina."

There are several moments like this where she is trying to convey a full scene in a single sentence, rather than slowing down enough to actually settle us into the environment. Crawling all the way back to her house after her rollerblading injury takes a single sentence. It creates the impression that she doesn't remember this well, or is exaggerating, because she spends way more time describing still images like staring at her own blood. That's fine to focus on the things that left the biggest impression on her, but when she puts it in a narrative form, it feels like she is fast-forwarding through things that we have practical questions about, like how much pain she was in while crawling, whether she could lift her legs, whether she tried to take off her skates, etc. A police interrogator would tell her to back up and slow down, and an editor should do the same.

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In this one, she spends several sentences describing beavers, then cuts to "swimming in the river." The beavers are swimming? Or her? Suddenly she's "panicking" and "frightened my leg would suddenly snap." Is she actually getting bitten? Is her leg actually "snapping ... like the birch"? Or is she just recalling beaver facts and getting scared? I have no idea!

I also hate this sentence:
"Pulse rate rising, I'd overcompensate, sparing no effort to buoy up, to hide the hiding, cutting a rug three centimeters above the floor, eggshells everywhere."

I had no idea what she was trying to say here until "eggshells everywhere," and it's like, OK, you're trying not to "step on eggshells," so you are so full of energy that you are practically hovering above the floor to avoid them. That's a pretty cool image, but you have to put the metaphor you're playing with UP FRONT or it's just like wtf.
 
Maybe Linda was truly an awful person, but what if she wasn't and Ellen is just being a huge whiner? Troons lie and exaggerate all of the time so I have doubts that Linda was this truly awful person. For example, Ellen said Linda laughed at her and asked "What are you doing?" when she was puking or whatever. She makes it sound like Linda was just sitting there laughing at her pain. But what if Linda just wasn't sure what Ellen was doing when Linda first happened upon her? ? In the next sentence, Ellen even says that Linda laughed but then went to get her a cold compress and stuff, so clearly Linda wasn't all bad.

And yeah, I can get how the nickname "skidmark" can hurt, especially when you're young and a girl, but isn't this something that always happens in families? I remember being called nicknames that I didn't like, but so did my other siblings. I find it hard to believe it was only Ellen getting ribbed on in the family. And while it may not be fun while it's happening to you, it also serves a purpose, it teaches you not to take things so seriously and how to learn to poke fun at misfortunes rather than staying upset at them.

Idk, like I said, maybe Linda really was a heartless bitch, but even still, I can't imagine being an adult and writing a memoir about being traumatized over a pretty tame nickname.
I'd agree if it was just the kids doing it but the adults joining in on it too is fucked up. Especially because she seems to imply that the step-mother would start the bullying and they'd all jump in.
 
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Maybe Linda was truly an awful person, but what if she wasn't and Ellen is just being a huge whiner?
Yeah I won't believe anything Ellen writes unless confirmed by a third party. It's not just the negative things she writes about people, all the positive things are slightly off and uncanny too. I don't think she's lying intentionally, I just don't trust her recollections at all. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if she imagined whole events that never happened.
 
Yeah I won't believe anything Ellen writes unless confirmed by a third party. It's not just the negative things she writes about people, all the positive things are slightly off and uncanny too. I don't think she's lying intentionally, I just don't trust her recollections at all. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if she imagined whole events that never happened.
She's already admitted she's delusional, (as if the whole Pooner thing wasn't enough to figure that out) she's almost a stereotype of the "unreliable narrator" I'm sure if you asked anyone else present during one of the events she recalls, what was actually happening would be quite different to Ellens warped, subjective impression of what was going on.
I don't think she's being deliberately deceitful either, but you have to remember these are the memories of someone who is extremely mentally ill, both at the time and now, trying to recall things that happened quite some time ago.
Add the fact all these recollections are colored by her own unhinged personality to her stream of consciousness way of writing, where she jumps from one incoherent and incomplete narrative to another and back again, it makes this whole thing hard to follow.

This is another reason I don't think she had a ghost writer, it's too Ellen. It's also apparent her editor was basically phoning it in, I doubt they did more than skim the pages as she handed them in, an editor doing a thorough job would have picked up on extremely basic writing mistakes like she makes.

In all, so far it's disjointed, confused, self pitying and incoherent. Much like the Pooner King herself.
 
I have to say this part about beavers seems entirely made up. Beavers do not slap their tail as an aggressive act, they slap their tail to warn the other beavers there is danger and that they should hide. They do it at the first sign of trouble. There is no way you would be able to even get in the water without them noticing you first, and beavers never attack people.

Also beavers will be found in the ponds they create with dams in streams found flowing into the rivers. A beaver pond wouldn't likely be a very enjoyable place for humans to swim, you would be risking catching beaver fever (Giardiasis).
 
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I have to say this part about beavers seems entirely made up. Beavers do not slap their tail as an aggressive act, they slap their tail to warn the other beavers there is danger and that they should hide. They do it at the first sign of trouble. There is no way you would be able to even get in the water without them noticing you first, and beavers never attack people.

Also beavers will be found in the ponds they create with dams in streams found flowing into the rivers. A beaver pond wouldn't likely be a very enjoyable place for humans to swim, you would be risking catching beaver fever (Giardiasis).
Beavers are extremely common around here, they can be quite a nuisance with their dam building causing problems for landowners. I've always found them amusing as hell personally, I think they're neat.
I've never heard of a Beaver attacking a person. They're quite alert, even ones that are used to seeing people, and will usually retreat into the water if they think you're getting ready to bother them.
If she's trying to claim she was assaulted by a Beaver she's full of shit.
 
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I'd agree if it was just the kids doing it but the adults joining in on it too is fucked up. Especially because she seems to imply that the step-mother would start the bullying and they'd all jump in.
I guess my point is that I remember my parents saying things that hurt as a kid but it wasn't like they were evil and purposely trying to be a jerk. Sometimes poking fun at someone can go too far and parents may not even realize it really bothered their kids until tears are shed or years later when the kid is older and says "yeah I always hated that".
 
The beaver thing is especially funny considering that they were regularly used in old timey political cartoons to represent Canada in the same way Canadians are stereotyped today: friendly, to the point of borderline political impotence.

Nutria, though? They are territorial and can absolutely fuck your shit up if they think you're a threat. Luckily, they're not in Canada so Ellen needn't worry about them. When I read that passage a few times, I got the impression that Ellen had a sudden thought of how strong beaver teeth are, and what if they bit legs instead of trees. It scared her so much that she frantically swam away... from dopey beavers that barely noticed she was there.

I guess my point is that I remember my parents saying things that hurt as a kid but it wasn't like they were evil and purposely trying to be a jerk. Sometimes poking fun at someone can go too far and parents may not even realize it really bothered their kids until tears are shed or years later when the kid is older and says "yeah I always hated that".

Her writing screams "arrested development." A lot of her accounts could easily be written by a 14 year old girl going through her "fuck you mom!" phase, or one with crippling anxiety. She needs some really good cognitive therapy for her trauma (perceived and real), but Hollywood is too busy patting her head and telling her what a good whipping boy she is for the trans movement. I haven't read any reviews for Pageboy, so I don't know the general reception it received. Personally, I do not see an individual that deserves all the "stunning and brave" praise after reading these passages. If anything, it validates my belief that Ellen will 41% in the near future. It is hard to read, and not in the way Ellen likely intended.
 
I know I’m late replying to this but this I don’t get too. I know she has obviously aged since then too but she has a completely different face shape now. I don’t understand how.

She looks fucking horrendous now. She was really cute before.
Alcoholism and testosterone.

and everything that makes someone a masculine woman is said to be indicators of being a man trapped in a woman's body. I doubt it's much deeper than that.
Except she's not a masculine woman and never has been. She desperately wishes not to be a woman, but she's not actually dysphoric; she just hates herself because she equates her own femininity with being a helpless victim.
 
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Idk, like I said, maybe Linda really was a heartless bitch, but even still, I can't imagine being an adult and writing a memoir about being traumatized over a pretty tame nickname.
Trannies lie and rewrite their history to fit their current bullshit.
I'd agree if it was just the kids doing it but the adults joining in on it too is fucked up. Especially because she seems to imply that the step-mother would start the bullying and they'd all jump in.
See above. In addition to being chronic liars and histrionic cunts. being trans is 100% delusion and a blatant falsehood. Any person who looks you in the face and declares they are the opposite sex despite all objective reality, cannot be trusted to tell the truth about anything, ever. This should be rule no. 2 when dealing with a person of gender. They are incapable of honesty.

Rule no. 1 being not to acknowledge them at all.
 
If she's trying to claim she was assaulted by a Beaver she's full of shit.
I dunno she may just be retelling a weird moment of fright she had in childhood over something completely irrational. I distinctly remember being very little and getting baths and being suddenly terrified when my mom would flip the switch thing that drains the bathtub. I thought I'd be sucked down the pipe, end up in the ocean and be eaten by a shark. Little kids are dumb. Her thinking a beaver was going to snap her femur sounds like a similar thing.

I will say that I don't know why she'd even share something like that. She seems like one of those people that assign meaning or give a lot of weight to shit that just doesn't (shouldn't) matter that much. That's the impression I get from reading the book excerpts posted here.
 
The beaver thing is so emblematic of how she feels the whole world is against her. Beavers are such goofy and innocent animals who love to chew tree, eat, play, and enjoy family time. Literally one of the easiest creatures in the animal kingdom for a human being to befriend or simply be around without issue. But to her they're some kind of terrifying eldritch horror. She truly is the type of person to think a bunch of day-old puppies are wiggling around because they're trying to hunt down her smell to eat and kill her!

If she was born this way this is tragic. Her 'trans joy' must be 1% of what an average person is capable of experiencing. Sorry to Ellen but if this was my brain I would kill myself.
 
Apparently there have been beaver fatalities, but Ellen's story sounds like cut content from "What Remains of Edith Finch."

Are they sure it wasn't rabid?
Especially the one that went at the Firetruck.
They can get territorial defensive around the time their young emerge from the Lodge, and Fish and Game dudes advise you to keep your Dogs away from them, but generally Beavers are right up there with Marmots as being the most chill of all rodents.
This was in Russia, maybe Eurasian Beavers are different?
 
I will say that I don't know why she'd even share something like that. She seems like one of those people that assign meaning or give a lot of weight to shit that just doesn't (shouldn't) matter that much. That's the impression I get from reading the book excerpts posted here
She’s very overly dramatic about a lot of things. More than a few of us probably have scars from rollerblading or bicycling or whatever dumb shit we did as kids. It was never a big deal. But she has to go into detail about her vagina, so we get this harrowing story of survival I guess.

And the sex thing…um, yeah, that’s usually how it goes the first time for a woman. And, yes, those kids talking about sex at school were probably lying. I thought everyone knew this? Does she just not talk to other human beings? Ellen sounds like an alien who got dropped off on this planet with no instruction manual.
 
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