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i dig it honestlyThe reason I ask is this is some grade-A schizo shit.
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i dig it honestlyThe reason I ask is this is some grade-A schizo shit.
Is that a challenge?we can never dox him.
Christa Barbara Tolmie vs. Craig Kenneth Tolmie (2017)
Unless you have evidence of them conducting egregious criminal activities then doxing might be the only hammer for this nail.Wanna "go after pedophiles" do something instead of just dox.
Sleepy Update
It really is funny how things have come full circle, he found the Farms through the ntts video. It truly is a small world.
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Anyways, he says this is his IP and that we can never dox him.
He also sent this message to the server. And apparently his YouTube accounts are getting deleted?Dear Sleepy, if you're reading this, you've got to shut this server down man. There are minors everywhere, including yourself. This stuff is not ok.
Never forget the story of the Finders and that this kind of shit is undoubtedly still going on under a million different names. Blackmail is more important to those 'in charge' than any sense of morality, because they have none, other than allegiances to themselves.unfortunately, what @AnOminous said. @Ewan McGregor elaborated on this in an earlier thread:
People "actually doing something" either doesn't do shit, or fucks things up for the actual authorities trying to investigate and prosecute pedophiles. Investigating, archiving and gathering dox in a way that doesn't tip the target off and then making a report or submitting a cybertip does help. Best practices really is to file a report first, and wait to post dox and archive until the investigation is complete, because unless you're prepared to testify for the state in court, your screenshots and archives don't help at all if the target has DFE'd and law enforcement can't obtain their own copies directly. "I found it in a post on kiwi farms" doesn't constitute proper foundation in court.Sorry man, kiwifarms doesn't go after pedos or any of these people posted here.
All kiwis do is dox and post an archive, then whine and complain circle jerking to whatever lolcow of the day is.
Wanna "go after pedophiles" do something instead of just dox. It does nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I hate them as much as the next kiwi, but is it really doing anything? Honestly? Other than shit posting and laughing?
They can get it if they really want it. They ignored Nathan Larson despite years of him being reported and openly operating a pedo grooming site that was still up at the time he kidnapped a child.Best practices really is to file a report first, and wait to post dox and archive until the investigation is complete, because unless you're prepared to testify for the state in court, your screenshots and archives don't help at all if the target has DFE'd and law enforcement can't obtain their own copies directly.
Resources (and competence) vary wildly. The feds are one thing, but the feds generally only take big cases that are slam dunks. Local law enforcement and county-level prosecutors do the vast majority of these cases and they need all the help they can get.They can get it if they really want it. They ignored Nathan Larson despite years of him being reported and openly operating a pedo grooming site that was still up at the time he kidnapped a child.
This. I would even advise against reporting to platforms at all unless it becomes apparent that the authorities aren't acting, because the platforms will often just destroy potential evidence to cover their own asses.My advice is to report first and foremost. That means report to authorities. You can report to platforms too, but they're there to make money, not "save the day." We can't arrest people, we can't make change, so report it to those who can. They might not do anything, but that doesn't justify YOU not doing anything. Even if you don't expect it will do anything, do it because in that 1 out of 1,000,000 chances that it does, you are helping victims.
I can't put into words what it means to actually help victims, but please keep trying if you already are. Try against reason, try against convenience, try against clout and wealth and personal affluence. Any sacrifice is worth it if it means somehow, someway that you saved someone. Because these are real fucking people being raped and used and abused and left feeling inconceivably horrible.
To put this into perspective: U.S. law enforcement got well over two million referrals from NCMEC alone last year:Resources (and competence) vary wildly. The feds are one thing, but the feds generally only take big cases that are slam dunks. Local law enforcement and county-level prosecutors do the vast majority of these cases and they need all the help they can get.
I am doing something tangible. I've spread evidence of this to 2 parents that I know and they have both taken their children off of all social media including discord permanently. It may not be much right now but imagine the consequences of what them not knowing about this would have been. It is a guarantee that their kids would have been exposed to this degenerate community at some point on discord and knowing that I helped prevent that is enough in my eyes.Wanna "go after pedophiles" do something instead of just dox. It does nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I hate them as much as the next kiwi, but is it really doing anything? Honestly? Other than shit posting and laughing?
Convince parents that you know to take their kids off of social media until they are 18. I know it sounds like a tall order but if you show them what's been documented on this thread they will understand it and will take appropriate action.What else can you do?
And keep in mind that this is just CyberTips. That's one source of these cases, and it's a major one but there's also a lot of cases that come in from local PD detectives catfishing, parents finding out about their kid's internet activity and reporting it, and ordinary people making reports to their local PD, or their state level investigation authority. Most states have a state equivalent to the FBI which often takes the lead on Internet cases, and making a report to that agency can often be the most effective way to get a case moving.To put this into perspective: U.S. law enforcement got well over two million referrals from NCMEC alone last year:
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I think this is part of the reason why so many people go unpunished; the problem is just too large and it's impossible to effectively prosecute everyone.
Decided to make an account on here for whatever reason. Too lazy to type it out again so heres a ssSleepy Update
It really is funny how things have come full circle, he found the Farms through the ntts video. It truly is a small world.
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Anyways, he says this is his IP and that we can never dox him.
He also sent this message to the server. And apparently his YouTube accounts are getting deleted?Dear Sleepy, if you're reading this, you've got to shut this server down man. There are minors everywhere, including yourself. This stuff is not ok.
We don't allow access to nsfw channels unless you ID verify.SLEEPY, I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS.
I JOINED YOUR SERVER WITH THE TAG THAT I'M A MINOR AND YOU HADN'T CHECKED MY ID. YOU DIDN'T ASK ME WHY MY ACCOUNT IS FRESHLY MADE.
YOU DIDN'T DO THE BARE MINIMUM TO VET MINORS AND PREDATORY ADULTS FROM YOUR SERVER, SLEEPY.
DISCORD DOESN'T RESPOND BUT YOU BROKE TOS, SLEEPY.
YOU'RE ENABLING EARLY PORN EXPOSURE TO MINORS, SLEEPY.
YOUR FRIENDS ARE ENGAGING IN ILLEGAL AND TOS BREAKING BEHAVIOR, SLEEPY.
ALL OF THE DISCORD CHATLOGS ARE BEING EVALUATED BY NCMEC, SLEEPY.
YOU SHOULD SHUT DOWN YOUR DISCORD SERVER AND RETHINK YOUR LIFE CHOICES, SLEEPY.
edit: personally I don't give a shit about your dox nor do I care about doxxing you. The reason you're in this thread is because you're enabling illegal and harmful behavior. What you perceive as harassment are people outside your echochamber trying to talk some sense into you. Shut this shit down and never turn back, most if not all of the people in that server are not your friends.
Excuses, excuses.We don't allow access to nsfw channels unless you ID verify.
Also, we don't monitor every new account that joins. It would be impractical, considering how many new people join every day.
Also, if a minor really wanted to look at porn, they'd just go to pornhub or Google search literally anything remotely horny, which requires no age verification whatsoever and is a lot more accessible than some random discord server.
Oh, it's not me who you should be talking to. This isn't court, and you're excusing yourself, which I do not want to hear considering this:We don't allow access to nsfw channels unless you ID verify.
It's funny how you have every talking point down except the one where you say "No you're right, I'm a dumb faggot playing with fire and I'll stop my shitty behavior."We don't allow access to nsfw channels unless you ID verify.