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That's the hyperbole I'm talking about. If Darling had stuck the ending it would have just been a shallow and overhyped 7/10. Trigger is still above average for a medium/large studio in current year but there are plenty of people willing to ween them and string together underwhelming titles while pretending the good ones never happened to fit some sort of narrative in a way most other studio don't have to deal with.
I mean most of Trigger are former talents trying to string up their old glory but none of their soul, as best described by:
To think there's still people who want to blame A-1 for Franxx being a trainwreck. Turned out Franxx was made because Imaishi wanted to get his whole Gainax crew back together for another show, and a lot of the talent had become A-1 contractors. So it's all the fault of the same guys who gave us Gurren Lagann and Panty & Stocking turning out a dud.
Plus, the only thing making TRIGGER good (at least nu-TRIGGER) is Gridman Universe, and even then people would prefer the older Gridman compared to the somewhat-color striking version. Dungeon Meshi might be good but they can fuck it up in later episodes. All the old talent that did Kill la Kill are gone, replaced by new ex-Talent coming from Gainax and other studios.
 
Man, just mentioning that show is enough to get people angered it seems.

Not exactly sure why it and its fanbase are considered to be scourges on the anime landscape, even if it’s an extremely flawed series. It’s not even completely irredeemable, at least in my eyes. Just a shame that it couldn’t nail the second half.

But there’s far worse anime shows out there.
 
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Man, just mentioning that show is enough to get people angered it seems.

Not exactly sure why it and its fanbase are considered to be scourges on the anime landscape, even if it’s an extremely flawed series. It’s not even completely irredeemable, at least in my eyes. Just a shame that it couldn’t nail the second half.

But there’s far worse anime shows out there.
Franxx was marketed as the second coming of Gurren Lagann. Just like Kill La Kill was marketed as the second coming of Gurren Lagann. And also the savior of anime.
Yeah, none of that panned out. KLK was a mess whose best moments were in self-contained comedy scenarios, and Franxx came off as Japanese soft-power propaganda.
 
Man, just mentioning that show is enough to get people angered it seems.

Not exactly sure why it and its fanbase are considered to be scourges on the anime landscape, even if it’s an extremely flawed series. It’s not even completely irredeemable, at least in my eyes. Just a shame that it couldn’t nail the second half.

But there’s far worse anime shows out there.
I disagree. Franxx's worst sin and a reason why it is (rightfully) hated is not only because of its' shoddy quality, but its influence. People shit on The Last of Us Part II same way with Franxx because of its' influence at the time and beyond. TLOU influenced a large chunk of wokeshit that would become a curse on the gaming industry. Franxx's curse was that it screwed over original mecha IP (and ORIGINAL anime IP for that matter) and given how the average mecha is nowadays a spinoff to the big ones like Gundam/Macross, it makes sense.
 
To think there's still people who want to blame A-1 for Franxx being a trainwreck. Turned out Franxx was made because Imaishi wanted to get his whole Gainax crew back together for another show, and a lot of the talent had become A-1 contractors. So it's all the fault of the same guys who gave us Gurren Lagann and Panty & Stocking turning out a dud.
Sounds like A-1 Pictures sucked out all the spirit and fun from the old crew within those short years of working for them. A-1 is absolute garbage (Space Brothers was the exception) and Your Lie in April was the black-pilled suppository.
 
That's the hyperbole I'm talking about. If Darling had stuck the ending it would have just been a shallow and overhyped 7/10. Trigger is still above average for a medium/large studio in current year but there are plenty of people willing to ween them and string together underwhelming titles while pretending the good ones never happened to fit some sort of narrative in a way most other studio don't have to deal with.
The issue with Trigger in general is if it isn't high energy it gets messy. Delicious in Dungeon is honestly the exception, but if anything that's because it's a adaption.
 
Finished the Farewell Shinsengumi arc. It was awesome and a great endpoint to a lot of plot points developed over the years. Plot Gintama is a bit of a monkey's paw, you kinda want it but then the status quo getting broken means no more funny gag episodes.

Also, TOTAL STALKER VICTORY.
 
I disagree. Franxx's worst sin and a reason why it is (rightfully) hated is not only because of its' shoddy quality, but its influence. People shit on The Last of Us Part II same way with Franxx because of its' influence at the time and beyond. TLOU influenced a large chunk of wokeshit that would become a curse on the gaming industry. Franxx's curse was that it screwed over original mecha IP (and ORIGINAL anime IP for that matter) and given how the average mecha is nowadays a spinoff to the big ones like Gundam/Macross, it makes sense.
You really think it caused that to happen?

The mecha genre had already been in a bit of a lull long before FranXX. And it’s not as though it was a commercial disaster, which generally contributes more when it comes to influence.

If anything, I’d personally blame it on Sunrise being bought out by Bandai Namco, given that after that, they never made another original mecha show for years.
 
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You really think it caused that to happen?

The mecha genre had already been in a bit of a lull long before FranXX. And it’s not as though it was a commercial disaster, which generally contributes more when it comes to influence.

If anything, I’d personally blame it on Sunrise being bought out by Bandai Namco, given that after that, they never made another original mecha show for years.
Oh yeah, that reminds me that code geass is getting another new movie this year not featuring anything lelouch related.


Fighting LL and his new hot topic fueled geass powers as a test to keep humanity on their toes, would be a more interesting premise than the annoying moralfaggotry and boring uber tier gundams who can't be scratched that has pervaded the series ever since the ending of the first season. If you aren't prepared to kill or be killed than why the fuck do most these characters even join up with the military with the intent purpose of using or designing a knightmare for live combat?

I don't want to hear about "muh tragic backstory" and DSP tier excuses as to why they can't kill the actual psychotic terrorists about to blow up a building full of innocent hostages with a sniper rifle and a clear shot when the job that they voluntarily signed on for is to literally ride around in a badass mech and shoot bad guys all day.
 
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Finished the Farewell Shinsengumi arc. It was awesome and a great endpoint to a lot of plot points developed over the years. Plot Gintama is a bit of a monkey's paw, you kinda want it but then the status quo getting broken means no more funny gag episodes.

Also, TOTAL STALKER VICTORY.
There's still one more season of funny gag episodes because the 2015 anime skipped the manga to the Shogun Assassination arc for production reasons called Porori-hen. Release wise it came out AFTER Gintama. (the 2017 one) but chronologically it all happens before Shogun Assassination. It's a good breather because Gintama is serious all the way through from this point.
 
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Oh yeah, that reminds me that code geass is getting another new movie this year not featuring anything lelouch related.


Fighting LL and his new hot topic fueled geass powers as a test to keep humanity on their toes, would be a more interesting premise than the annoying moralfaggotry and boring uber tier gundams who can't be scratched that has pervaded the series ever since the ending of the first season. If you aren't prepared to kill or be killed than why the fuck do most these characters even join up with the military with the intent purpose of using or designing a knightmare for live combat?

I don't want to hear about "muh tragic backstory" and DSP tier excuses as to why they can't kill the actual psychotic terrorists about to blow up a building full of innocent hostages with a sniper rifle and a clear shot when the job that they voluntarily signed on for is to literally ride around in a badass mech and shoot bad guys all day.
What even is the plot of the series by now? I thought it was all about the eye powers the characters got but last thing I saw was some bullshit war story with "mu Japanese persecution".

There's still one more season of funny gag episodes because the 2015 anime skipped the manga to the Shogun Assassination arc for production reasons called Porori-hen. Release wise it came out AFTER Gintama. (the 2017 one) but chronologically it all happens before Shogun Assassination. It's a good breather because Gintama is serious all the way through from this point.
Kind of a shame, hope at least Hasegawa get a chance for a happy ending after fucking new chances for the sake of others twice by now. Wonder if Kyubey shows up considering they had so little to do with her they gave her a pet monkey
 
What even is the plot of the series by now? I thought it was all about the eye powers the characters got but last thing I saw was some bullshit war story with "mu Japanese persecution".
I don't think even the IP holders know at this point. They'd resorted to rewriting history by adding bullshit Gacha OC's into the story of the first season and just whoring out the Green haired one's ass in every piece of merch they could send out.

The terrible "Akito the exiled" and its many many many movie delays of that 5 movie spinoff series really was the final nail in the coffin for this franchise. Which might be what you're talking about. I tried to rewatch it a few months back and it was as horrible and full of comedically cringe edgelords as I remembered.

Was a nice palate cleanser to discover MD Geist. Helped me forget about the lancelot being an overused deus ex machina device showing up just to ruin a ton of actually decent moments in the series.
 
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Was a nice palate cleanser to discover MD Geist. Helped me forget about the lancelot being an overused deus ex machina device showing up just to ruin a ton of actually decent moments in the series.
Geist is pure kino. So much so the fans at Manga Entertainment pursuaded the creators to come back and do a sequel
 
The issue with Trigger in general is if it isn't high energy it gets messy. Delicious in Dungeon is honestly the exception, but if anything that's because it's a adaption.
I think DiD might show what Trigger's future direction should be. While they're storylines have certainly been unique (clothing aliens, gunsuits, flaming flamers, inflatable secretaries) they have never had a significant level of depth or mature storytelling. What they have had is the ability to squeeze an enormous amount of emotion into a scene. DiD has a thorough and extremely sophisticated storyline and an art style that is completely compatible with Trigger's work, and I really don't think any other studio could reproduce it with the same level of polish and energy. I could see Trigger doing other adaptations that would be highly successful, such as the Greatest Estate Developer (renamed World's Best Engineer)
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I think DiD might show what Trigger's future direction should be. While they're storylines have certainly been unique (clothing aliens, gunsuits, flaming flamers, inflatable secretaries) they have never had a significant level of depth or mature storytelling. What they have had is the ability to squeeze an enormous amount of emotion into a scene. DiD has a thorough and extremely sophisticated storyline and an art style that is completely compatible with Trigger's work, and I really don't think any other studio could reproduce it with the same level of polish and energy. I could see Trigger doing other adaptations that would be highly successful, such as the Greatest Estate Developer (renamed World's Best Engineer)
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The thing is I LIKE Trigger going wild. Promare is still one of my favorite anime movies for how batshit it is. I still want them to do their own shit and not just adapt stuff or use other IPs.
 
I think DiD might show what Trigger's future direction should be. While they're storylines have certainly been unique (clothing aliens, gunsuits, flaming flamers, inflatable secretaries) they have never had a significant level of depth or mature storytelling. What they have had is the ability to squeeze an enormous amount of emotion into a scene. DiD has a thorough and extremely sophisticated storyline and an art style that is completely compatible with Trigger's work, and I really don't think any other studio could reproduce it with the same level of polish and energy. I could see Trigger doing other adaptations that would be highly successful, such as the Greatest Estate Developer (renamed World's Best Engineer)
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With how well Dungeon Meshi is doing, I'd love for an adaptation of Murcielago, it's right up Trigger's alley. Double points if they get Sayaka Oohara as Kouko. If a literal who nobody studio didn't completely fuck up the Biscuit Hammer adaptation, I'd love for Trigger to do that show as well since Gainax barely exists anymore.
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If I had to describe Studio Trigger in one phrase, it would be this:
They're the very definition of style over substance.

Part of what made their early shows, such as Kill la Kill, Inferno Cop, and Little Witch Academia, stand out was their bombasticness and over-the-top style.

This made sense since this Trigger was founded by former Ginax members such as Hiroyuki Imaishi and Masahiko Ōtsuka, who helped make these shows; this only increases fans' trust.
The way Trigger animated their shows was like no other, so much so everyone in the anime community treated them as the saviors of anime.
However, as time passed, it became more evident that one of Trigger's biggest weaknesses was in their writing.

Signs were showing with such forgettable animes as Kiznaivers, whose entire plot was about people sharing pain, which concludes that sharing pain is bad.... yeah.

However, this was all but confirmed with Darling in the Franxx. Yeah, I know that anime was more Co-Produced between A-1 and Trigger, but many former members, such as Atsushi Nishigori, who was not only involved with most Gainax former animes, such as FLCL and Gurren Lagann but also worked on the Evangelion rebuilds films.

Which is made all the more funny because it explains why Darling in the Franxx blatantly ripped off all those former Gainax animes.
It was a fan fic that went horribly wrong.

Not only was this anime tone-deaf, but they also had moments where they piloted the robots in a doggy style yet expected the audience to take it seriously.
It was made worse by the fact that it tried to send some asinine message that kids need to get pregnant to save Japan from a decreasing birth rate, but it handled this so poorly that everyone just dropped the show, and that was before the big twist that aliens were the real bad guys.

This was made worse with one of the next shows, Brand New Animal, the furry anime.
That series tried to explore the complexities of a community and a whole race dealing with the consequences of racism, and boy, did they fumble the ball.

Despite BNA trying to do its damnest to tell you that the beast-man are misunderstood people mistreated by humanity, in reality, they're a race that sells out their kind, including children, and will turn into hostile monsters if they get stressed out.

Again, this plays into Trigger Strength.
They might be top-notch animators, but without a strong script and someone to keep them in check, it's all for nothing.

Edgerunners and Dungeon Meshi don't suffer from this problem because they have a better writer to keep them focused and a better script to execute their ideas.
Which is funny since both of those anime are adaptations of other works.
 
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