yo, can we like go back to appliances that...work? - Environmental bullshit breaking things that didn't need fixing

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Yeah, they run for two or three hours instead of one, backwashing the hot air within the machine, while pushing moist lint ripped off your clothes as they turn round for three times as long as a real drier into a bizarro filter pack that slides out of the machine.
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My washer dryer is ventless takes about the same time as any normal domestic electric dryer I've used, gas dryers are a rarity here so don't know how it'd stack up against those and no extra filters besides the standard front load washing machine one. BUT it has a much smaller dryer load capacity.

Probably not worth it if you've got a large household or aren't able/willing to hang your washing out to dry.
 
CaptainAutism69 said:
The problem is not me, but the fact that these pieces of shit are trying to do the job with half the water, and at as low a temp as possible
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So you run it on the appropriate setting (which one? I usually do 65°) and put a few drops of detergent in the main chamber along with the normal tab/powder in the dedicated holder and the filter is clean / you've cleaned the filter regularly? I've lived in a dozen apartments in Europe and have a pretty new dishwasher atm (same at my family's place) but never run into your issue - and I dont pre-clean dishes either.
 
Ran-chan said:
hit the nail on the head. If you want nice shit you gotta spend money on it. The reason why your Grandpa's shit from the 50s is so nice is that the only stuff that survived is the expensive shit that people cared about and took care of.
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It was funny walking through an electronics store and seeing their wall of fancy fridges that are like C to G class and cost too much just some have some internet of things bullshit. While my 5 year old, made in this shithole fridge still works too good(i need to put it on lowest setting to not turn it into a freezer) Just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's good. In fact that's the problem with modern appliances. The difference between most cheap and expensive stuff is how much IOT bullshit is stapled on and if they have a fancy brand name. You now need to do the same amount of research as people trying to import quality steel out of China, and expect the same BS as well.
 
Bloitzhole said:
Doesn't matter if he doesn't have gas at his location, induction is the fastest way to heat up anything and doesn't cost much money nor effort to put in. It's also a much more effective heat delivery system than standard electric so it pays for itself over time because you're using less power to get the same amount of heat - if your stove is shit, it's easy to invest in induction hobs, people would just rather complain than actually get off their ass and put something decent in themselves.
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I can't stand induction burners. They also don't work with my favourite frying pan.
 
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It's pretty much a combination of a) planned obsolescence, b) deliberate unrepairability, c) energy/water saving mandates and d) shoving electronics everywhere.
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E) chink manufacturing

Basically everything that surrounds you from every angle at all times, nowadays, is designed to piss you off and make you spend more money until you have a heart attack (which you must then pay money for.)
 
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Never buy a Kenmore appliance is all I can add to this thread. Fucking plastic in the dishwash disentegrated the top rack mechanism, the ovens ingniter has needed replacing twice, and the microwave now sometimes makes a popping noise and refuses to heat anything until unplugged and plugged back in.

Fucking thank God I am moving out of this rental this month.
 
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Quality has gone to shit because that way they get to cut costs (not the price) and it will break faster so you have to buy a new one, win-win.

I remember this guy who worked at a bunch of appliance companies like GE, electrolux, whirlpool, etc, telling me how for example they used to literally submerge the parts of washing machines in enamel which is why you see units from 50 years ago still looking brand new. But then they changed it and now give those things the thinnest layer of spray paint instead which is much cheaper and it means it will rust to shit in no time, so now you have to buy a new one from them.

Nothing to do with the environment, in fact its a million times worse for the environment than before.
 
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cybertoaster said:
Quality has gone to shit because that way they get to cut costs (not the price) and it will break faster so you have to buy a new one, win-win.

I remember this guy who worked at a bunch of appliance companies like GE, electrolux, whirlpool, etc, telling me how for example they used to literally submerge the parts of washing machines in enamel which is why you see units from 50 years ago still looking brand new. But then they changed it and now give those things the thinnest layer of spray paint instead which is much cheaper and it means it will rust to shit in no time, so now you have to buy a new one from them.

Nothing to do with the environment, in fact its a million times worse for the environment than before.
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Whirlpool can rot in hell, my new place came with Whirpool everything, and it's all shit. All of it.. And because everything is integrated, it's going to be a lot more expensive to replace than with freestanding stuff.
 
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Nothing to do with the environment, in fact its a million times worse for the environment than before.
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Its got everything to do with the environment, because thats the vehicle being used to push most or all of these changes. The brands that were attempting to lean on quality were litigated out of using a viable amount of water or power to do the job, allowing chink trash to flow in as planned (as it no longer has a disadvantage in terms of performance).
 
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On another note:

Why do freezers always have transparent plastic trays that shatter really easily then can never replace?
 
I've referenced the Phoebus Cartel and the shit they did with purposely reducing life expectancy of light bulbs in another thread, however it still applies here. Making things more trash to get you to buy more of the same trash has been going on for a long ass time and it's not going to stop anytime soon. If you are fortunate enough to find something that both functions well and lasts, hold onto and maintain it as much as you possibly can. Going a little bit OT but you can see the exact same issue with clothing, a large majority of it is built to fall apart in a short amount of time and the fabrics are almost always blended with plastic. Wonder why you get so fucking hot on a decently warm day in summer even though you could swear it wasn't this bad however many years ago? It's the fabric production changes, plastic obviously isn't breathable. At an absolute minimum you should learn basic sewing skills to mend items that start falling apart as well and keep an eye out for any small holes that start to form, it's not that hard.

It's a menace that the right to maintain and repair our belongings is being robbed from us with various types of appliances/technology every single day and it drives me up the wall that we are actively prevented from quick fixing half the shit in our own homes because, shock horror, we actually want it to perform the basic function it was purchased for and stop shitting the bed every few weeks. Reeeeeeeeeee
 
I would like to know why and how my fucking microwaves keep developing spots that rust through. It's happened 3 times in 10 years. I am not particularly demanding or abusive to my appliances. I don't use concentrated acid to clean them. What fucking chinesium is this shit made of that it rusts without you having to do anything to it?

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Whirlpool can rot in hell, my new place came with Whirpool everything, and it's all shit. All of it.. And because everything is integrated, it's going to be a lot more expensive to replace than with freestanding stuff.
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That is my experience as well. The Whirlpool fridge my parents got when they moved, brand new, came broken. Needed to have its main control board replaced in the first 2 weeks of life. Also, made of the cheapest chink plastic I have ever seen. You just have to give it an ugly look to make that shit crack.

When they went to get a new dishwasher I made sure to go with them and show them all the nasty little things they do to make shit cost less, like using thin plastic pins that will break in 6 months to hold the wheels on the rack in the dishwasher.

cybertoaster said:
Quality has gone to shit because that way they get to cut costs (not the price) and it will break faster so you have to buy a new one, win-win.

I remember this guy who worked at a bunch of appliance companies like GE, electrolux, whirlpool, etc, telling me how for example they used to literally submerge the parts of washing machines in enamel which is why you see units from 50 years ago still looking brand new. But then they changed it and now give those things the thinnest layer of spray paint instead which is much cheaper and it means it will rust to shit in no time, so now you have to buy a new one from them.

Nothing to do with the environment, in fact its a million times worse for the environment than before.
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My mother's washing machine is a testament to that. She spilled a little detergent on a lower exterior corner of it and forgot to wipe it up. Since that's not exactly a place one tends to look it just sat on there. A month later she tells me the damn thing developed a hole in the corner where the detergent sat on it. WTF kinda shit washing machine is not meant to tolerate the presence of detergent? Isn't that something that one should expect of a washing machine?

HahaYes said:
It's a menace that the right to maintain and repair our belongings is being robbed from us with various types of appliances/technology every single day and it drives me up the wall that we are actively prevented from quick fixing half the shit in our own homes because, shock horror, we actually want it to perform the basic function it was purchased for and stop shitting the bed every few weeks. Reeeeeeeeeee
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I think this is a very salient point. We now require laws to allow us to repair our shit. The members of the greatest generation, who are mostly gone now, must be spinning violently counterclockwise in their graves that companies are telling people who buy their shit that they can't fix it and said device has been intentionally locked out and locked in so you can't even if you wanted to.
 
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My washer dryer is ventless takes about the same time as any normal domestic electric dryer I've used, gas dryers are a rarity here so don't know how it'd stack up against those and no extra filters besides the standard front load washing machine one. BUT it has a much smaller dryer load capacity.

Probably not worth it if you've got a large household or aren't able/willing to hang your washing out to dry.
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A ventless dryer is a condensing dryer.

The most effectiveness when it comes to dryers is in the following order (ignoring gas because they are uncommon):
Heatpump dryer
Vented dryer
Condensing dryer
Combo washer and dryer
 
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