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The main domain is back up but soyak.party's down because of the Illymation dox and drama. Has it been covered on here yet?
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Bubba Hernandez
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The Mister Kopi channel has uploaded again.
I've noticed this in one of the MediaFire links:
The upload date is several years ago. This shit has been going on for at least three years.
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I've noticed this in one of the MediaFire links:
The upload date is several years ago. This shit has been going on for at least three years.
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Nah i refuse to believe MediaFire is this incompetent. it's like the one thing they have to do, and they fail to do it. dumbass site admins
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How are these not getting flagged by PhotoDNA or hash lists? MediaFire claims they use PhotoDNA [A]:
Unless the uploaders are circumventing it?
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It's pretty telling that Mediafire instantly got to work when they got notified of this shit, but YouTube sits on their asses. This is a good reminder to not financially support YouTube, not only do they not care about the creators on their platform, they don't care when their platform is used for illegal activity. And then people have the gall to say that we're evil and YouTube is good because they "delete bad things".
Chief Big Dick did some work on it and explained how hard it is to do back when he was working on Infinity Next:
Try running an open file hosting site. Not only is it ridiculously expensive to keep it running for as long as Mediafire is running, it's also impossible to catch this shit as it's uploaded because of the sheer volume of the files that get uploaded there, but clearly Mediafire gives a shit because they got to work the moment they got notified of it. That's more than I can say about YouTube's response.
It's very simple to circumvent. Put the child porn into encrypted archives. That completely stops this type of CSAM prevention because it only works on unencrypted media. The moment it got encrypted with an archive password, Mediafire has no idea what's in there. It's also possible that it doesn't work well on video, or doesn't work at all, or they use some sort of media manipulation to throw these off.
Chief Big Dick did some work on it and explained how hard it is to do back when he was working on Infinity Next:
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Holy heckin' dooderino, more nigger coal 'tube channels soliciting 'P material in third world countries? That's heckin' gross bros, but if DNBs are included, this shit heckin' get worse.
Yes, by all means, 'P is extremely illegal to obtain, make and even so sharing via a circle. You need to be as much of a deranged fuck like this channel to actually do this batshit vile activity of sharing 'P to the public without getting caught. Many niggers are arrested because of having 'P material in their SSD, HDD or their phones, but this case is extremely vile considering the origins of the channel, Indonesia. Since the country was far more lenient than others, soliciting illegal materials in Indonesia are given a pass by its government, but not all.
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I thought those hash filters only worked on CSAM that had already been added to their database of known CSAM? If so, then one horrifying thing to consider is that these sickos are getting past these filters because they're sharing original content.
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Here's a simple example of how basic archive encryption can throw off any sort of file scanner.
I've created two 7-zip archives. In both of them there is a file by the name of "test.txt" which contains the phrase "Enjoy prison stalker child". If you open the testplain.7z file in Notepad, you can see it has both the file name and the content of the text file available in plain text. There's nothing stopping you from writing a script to automatically unpack it and verify if it doesn't contain anything nefarious.
However the "testencrypt.7z" file is all gibberish in Notepad, and if you try to open it, it'll ask you for the archive's password before you can do anything. The file names are also encrypted, so without the password you can't do anything with this file, it's completely opaque. I've set the password to
This is the simplest way to distribute files with an extra layer of protection from any sort of content analysis systems. The only thing that you could do to stop this type of distribution is to outright disallow uploading of any encrypted, password protected archives. It's insanely hard to fight distribution of child porn on a massive scale with automation because of how many ways there exist to circumvent them.
Also, quick PSA. If you want to create password protected archives, use 7-zip to create .7z archives. That way you can't even see what's inside of it without a password. With .zip archives, the file listing is unencrypted, so if you distribute something like a pirated game, others can see that without a password, but they won't be able to extract the files. And .7z archives with properly configured LZMA2 compression have the best compression ratio so there's no real reason to use .zip files outside of legacy use cases nowadays. The only real competitor to .7z LZMA2 nowadays is Zstandard, you can read up on that more if you're interested, fun computer science stuff.
I've created two 7-zip archives. In both of them there is a file by the name of "test.txt" which contains the phrase "Enjoy prison stalker child". If you open the testplain.7z file in Notepad, you can see it has both the file name and the content of the text file available in plain text. There's nothing stopping you from writing a script to automatically unpack it and verify if it doesn't contain anything nefarious.
However the "testencrypt.7z" file is all gibberish in Notepad, and if you try to open it, it'll ask you for the archive's password before you can do anything. The file names are also encrypted, so without the password you can't do anything with this file, it's completely opaque. I've set the password to
password so you can open it and see that it has the same file with the same content.This is the simplest way to distribute files with an extra layer of protection from any sort of content analysis systems. The only thing that you could do to stop this type of distribution is to outright disallow uploading of any encrypted, password protected archives. It's insanely hard to fight distribution of child porn on a massive scale with automation because of how many ways there exist to circumvent them.
Also, quick PSA. If you want to create password protected archives, use 7-zip to create .7z archives. That way you can't even see what's inside of it without a password. With .zip archives, the file listing is unencrypted, so if you distribute something like a pirated game, others can see that without a password, but they won't be able to extract the files. And .7z archives with properly configured LZMA2 compression have the best compression ratio so there's no real reason to use .zip files outside of legacy use cases nowadays. The only real competitor to .7z LZMA2 nowadays is Zstandard, you can read up on that more if you're interested, fun computer science stuff.
Yeah, there's the case of CSAM that's not yet in the database, and there's also the aforementioned case of a multitude of ways to throw off CSAM scanners.
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Mediafire could require you to share the password, that would be an easy fix.
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NCMEC actually publishes the average time that providers take to respond to their notifications. The mean across all providers is 2.64 days (2 days and ~15 hours) and MediaFire is a lot quicker than Google.
MediaFire took 0.79 days on average (~19 hours).
YouTube took 1.48 days on average (1 day and ~12 hours):
Google took 3.59 days on average (3 days and ~14 hours):
Google also failed to respond to three requests:
MediaFire took 0.79 days on average (~19 hours).
YouTube took 1.48 days on average (1 day and ~12 hours):
Google took 3.59 days on average (3 days and ~14 hours):
Google also failed to respond to three requests:
It''s barely been half an hour, and these pedos are already noticing the videos are gone
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Stop blaming mediafire you retards, the files have passwords and thus mediafire can’t scan the contents
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It's not that google and/or the feds doesn't know about this, they are probably involved in this. Youtube runs ai bots to sniff out 5 seconds of copyright material, but they can't sniff out CSAM/child porn? Get the fuck out of here.
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Man, Yandex be wildin' tho.
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Passwords should prevent the contents of archives from being scanned.
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PhotoDNA sucks and is a reversible hash. Using PhotoDNA is equivalent to storing CSAM. And it's just not a very good hash.
Null refuses to feature soyjak.party happenings because he still thinks CSAM gets posted.
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It's easy to circumvent automated file scans and impossible to manually verify everything that gets uploaded to your file hosting site is legal. Mediafire is being stellar in their reaction to this. They can only know that there's child porn on their servers that didn't get caught by the automatic filtering if someone tells them about it, and so far they have proven that they care. The same cannot be said about YouTube.
I don't know what retards in this thread think, that all technology is fucking magic? That Mediafire can know in an instant if something uploaded to their servers is child porn with 100% effectiveness? That's not how any of this shit works, I made a simple practical explanation of how easy it is to circumvent those CSAM detectors that generally suck in the first place because as @Null has shown in his Infinity Next endeavors, those systems are very weak and with enough image manipulation you can easily throw them off.
And if you do a password protected .7z archive, that encrypts the files, meaning that they cannot be even verified without it. Now upload it with a non-descriptive name on Mediafire and distribute the link to it in an obscure way and it's no wonder the files were hanging on their servers for three years without being taken down. There was no way to detect them, but the moment Mediafire got notified of their existence, poof, gone.
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Holy shit babyjak uses Kiwifarms or whatever
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Don't they only check the hashes of known CSAM images? As grim as it might be to think about, this group could be out there making new stuff.