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Why women would prefer to be alone in the woods with a bear than a man​

Would you rather find yourself alone in the woods with a bear or a man? This is the question currently dividing social media. Based on the responses online, it looks like most women answering the question say they would choose the bear, a decision that is shocking many men.

The reactions show some men don’t understand women’s experiences. The assertion that women would prefer to encounter a bear is based on evidence about the rate of male violence against women, and on a lifetime of learning to fear and anticipate this violence. This is especially true of sexual violence, something which would not be associated with encountering a bear.

According to the World Health Organization, one in three women – around 736 million globally – will have experienced sexual or physical violence by an intimate partner or sexual violence from a non-partner in their lifetime. This figure has largely remained unchanged over the past decade.

Being attacked by a bear is much less common, with only 664 attacks worldwideover 15 years, and very few fatal attacks. And bears tend to avoid humans, attacking only when provoked or protecting their young.


This is not about generalising or fearing all men. Women know that not all men are dangerous. But women don’t know which men they should fear, only that male violence and male entitlement to women’s bodies is something that they have to be on guard for.

Women are commonly victims of sexualised violence, and men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators (including against other men). There are enough men who have hurt or are capable of hurting women, and women have no way of knowing which ones these are. While much violence against women comes from men they know, the risk of danger from men they don’t know is something that informs their day-to-day lives.

For example, research shows that women change their behaviour – making certain decisions about the routes they take or what they wear – to avoid harassment or abuse from men in public. Scholars such as Fiona Vera-Gray refer to this as safety work.

Women’s view of men is also coloured by their non-violent actions that harm women. Clearly, bears also do not contribute to or uphold systemic sexism and misogyny, but most men do.

My research on misogynistic online groups has explored how men engage in acts against women that reinforce gender inequality.

Writer Emma Pitman has described this phenomenon using the analogy of a human pyramid. The choices of some men to stay silent about abuse is the base of the pyramid, holding up other men who engage in misogynistic jokes or commit violence.

The overall effect, whether deliberate or via ignorance or indifference, is to normalise and support the actions of male sexual predators and domestic abuse perpetrators.

This culture props up the men who are silent bystanders, observing sexism, harassment or abuse but doing nothing, the men who make or laugh along with the sexist or rape jokes, those who are rape apologists and blame women for their sexual victimisation, those who become aggressive when women turn them down, those who stalk, control and abuse women, and those who are rapists, sexual harassers and murderers. This continuum of misogyny is women’s everyday reality – and at no point do bears feature.

Men on the defensive​

Men are generally surprised, defensive even, when the subject of male violence against women is discussed. This is often where people invoke the response “not all men”.

When women took to social media to express their anger and devastation following the murder of Sarah Everard by a police officer in 2021, #NotAllMen trended online. Meanwhile, police advised womennot to walk alone at night, placing the burden of avoiding violence on women.

This conversation is about privilege, and not recognising it. Many men are able to move through their daily lives not being worried that they are going to be attacked or raped, can walk alone late at night without taking any safety precautions or even not having such thoughts cross their minds, and do not feel their hearts beat faster if they hear footsteps behind them. It may not be all men, but it is all women, who live smaller lives because of the threat of some men’s violence.

These discussions are an opportunity for men to understand women’s genuine fears and to be part of the solution rather than the problem.
 
omfg the bear is not going to attack you, it is a vanishingly remote chance, why are there all these bear haters

also is everyone on this thread from europe or something? bears in cities is not that unusual in the US

anyway I actually do for real believe there was (is?) an actual communist conspiracy to poison relations between the sexes in the West, and certainly part of that is spooking the ladies about normal male behavior, but hey you einsteins why exactly do you think you're immune?

the idea that some males are extremely dangerous, and you need to be wary, especially when you're young, is hardly a 20th century creation.

for example


this article fails to mention the fact that while female killers are usually after an inheritance or covering up a pregnancy, male killers usually *have no motive.* they just get a vulnerable young woman away from her family and shove her in the river or stab her or something.

this is a very, very old trope that shows up all over the world in folk culture. you need to ask yourself who has caused you to look at women's natural, ancient wariness of males and get your feefees hurt over it.
You've both missed the point to an impressive extent, and demonstrated your lack of understanding of bears.

The fucking bear can cleave your head from your shoulders in a single swipe and they eat their prey alive if you're unlucky enough to not have been decapitated. A man typically won't eat a woman alive, or dead, you jackass.
Start of the linked article said:
A TEEN screamed "it's eating me" as she was mauled alive by a raging bear while she was on the phone to her mum.

Olga Moskalyova, 19, called her mother as the horrific attack was unfolding, and gave her a heart-breaking, hour-long commentary.
 
Women like going with the herd. They want social acceptance and to be moving up the social ladder. This means they often judge others based on how socially accepted they appear to be by those around them.

They may go off of the guy demonstrating he has money, how their friends or strangers treat the guy, or whatever, but it comes down to social acceptance.

Asking a woman to judge a guy 1v1 in an environment where they can't read cues from others of how accepted the guy is will throw them into confusion. It's not an office where you might be coworkers (so you know they're of an approved class level), a store (where you could complain to the manager), nor is it a social gathering like at a club where people may demonstrate they have money by being able to afford cover or buy some drinks.

The Bear vs Man question is asking a woman to abandon any of her usual strategies for gauging whether to trust interacting with a guy, so they're comically going "fuck that I choose bear".
 
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I'm pretty cool with the understanding of bears that has kept me uneaten by bears in many many years of being near bears
The question implies that both are dangerous and you're unarmed. As in, "Would you rather be alone in the woods with a [dangerous] bear [unarmed], or alone in the woods with a [dangerous] man [unarmed]?"

This is partially what I meant by missing the point.
what kind of cell service do you morons think they have in Siberia that you think that story is real?

From the Article you clearly didn't read said:
Tatiana called the police and relatives in a nearby village, in the extreme east of Siberia, begging them to rush to the river where the pair had been fishing.

The fact they found her is evidence enough that it happened. I don't need to look up cell coverage for Siberia for that.
 
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You left out the obvious preparing for an encounter with pedobear for younger girls

That said these women are fucking idiots. You're far more likely to get killed by a bear than a man and in a far more unpleasant way. This is legit darwin award territory. 99% of men won't do shit to you, plenty of bears will. The last place you want to be is in the woods getting too close to a bear

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No bears carry parasites and I didn’t want to cook the meat all the way just to kill them all. I also had to notify the game warden a bear was climbing up a tree to get at me. I had to shoot it right in its head to get it away.
First rule of bear hunting is never, ever shoot one in the head, regardless of the caliber of the weapon. Always heart or lung shots. Bears have incredibly thick skulls built at an angle that frequently causes rounds to ricochet off their skulls, stunning the bear and temporarily rendering them unconscious. Then you end up with a very pissed off bear waking up rather quickly who will make a point of going after you. Tons of bear hunting related deaths involve inexperienced bear hunters trying to do headshots, stunning the bear and the bear waking up right about the time the hunter walks up to it to check on the kill. Leading to an instant and very unpleasant mauling
 
You left out the obvious preparing for an encounter with pedobear for younger girls

That said these women are fucking idiots. You're far more likely to get killed by a bear than a man and in a far more unpleasant way. This is legit darwin award territory. 99% of men won't do shit to you, plenty of bears will. The last place you want to be is in the woods getting too close to a bear


First rule of bear hunting is never, ever shoot one in the head, regardless of the caliber of the weapon. Always heart or lung shots. Bears have incredibly thick skulls built at an angle that frequently causes rounds to ricochet off their skulls, stunning the bear and temporarily rendering them unconscious. Then you end up with a very pissed off bear waking up rather quickly who will make a point of going after you. Tons of bear hunting related deaths involve inexperienced bear hunters trying to do headshots, stunning the bear and the bear waking up right about the time the hunter walks up to it to check on the kill. Leading to an instant and very unpleasant mauling
Well I'm a lucky ducky since that black bear probably was knocked out, wasn't moving an inch, and bled out by the time I left most likely.
 
One of the funniest parts of this shit for me has been how starkly it has shown the differences between how men and women think. Guys hear the question and immediately start asking for the specifics of the situation. What sort of bear? What is its general disposition? Do I have any sort of weaponry on me?… all of those are things I’ve seen on here and elsewhere. But for so many women, they immediately revert to purely emotional responses, remembering a time where some creepy dude has made them uncomfortable, and unable to put themselves in a position where they consider if the bear would be worse. The contrast is just very amusing in my eyes, lmao.
 
Nah I'm gonna count this as grifting for "nonono qween, I'd DEFINITELY wouldn't attack you inawoods, I'ma good guy!"

All feminists were supposed to be strong and independent wahmen who could take care of themselves. If you're saying you could not take ONE MAN then it's obvious they're not. Feminists destroyed the social fabric between the sexes, and now want to take it all back, but in the most neurotic and passive aggressive way possible. To which I say: fuck off. Have fun with your bear.
 
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