Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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The black hole that is actual HOI4 mods makes me appreciate the Vicky 2 modding community. Infinitely harder to mod that game the the mods are amazing quality. I cannot go back to Vanilla Vicky 2 after playing the Historical Project Mod or the semi-schizo alt-history mod Divergences in Darkness (Where Americas aren't as colonized, English wins the 100 years war, a ton of other shit)
 
The black hole that is actual HOI4 mods makes me appreciate the Vicky 2 modding community. Infinitely harder to mod that game the the mods are amazing quality. I cannot go back to Vanilla Vicky 2 after playing the Historical Project Mod or the semi-schizo alt-history mod Divergences in Darkness (Where Americas aren't as colonized, English wins the 100 years war, a ton of other shit)
I keep trying to get into Vicky 2 but I always bounce off it, seems infinitely more fun than Vicky 3 at least.
 
I keep trying to get into Vicky 2 but I always bounce off it, seems infinitely more fun than Vicky 3 at least.
Trust me, when people give Vicky 3 flak as a direct downgrade of Vicky 2 they mean it. Too many Paraodox dickriders try to convince themselves into believeing they aren't meant to be the same game, but they are.

Truth be told I don't even understand Vicky 2 myself besides that the economy line should be green. It's not a very intuitive game but the way it is designed and plays keeps a lot of the HOI4 types away from it.
 
Truth be told I don't even understand Vicky 2 myself besides that the economy line should be green.
That's all there is to it really.

Green line = All good. Red line = Time to invade Southern China and West Africa for their precious metals. Or Indonesia and the Middle East for their oil.

Rebels in your country? Hit them with Mustard gas, they don't have gas masks (gas defense).

Giving women and ethnic minorities the right to vote? Reinstate slavery and install an absolute monarchy under the state capitalism party.
 
Trust me, when people give Vicky 3 flak as a direct downgrade of Vicky 2 they mean it. Too many Paraodox dickriders try to convince themselves into believeing they aren't meant to be the same game, but they are.

Truth be told I don't even understand Vicky 2 myself besides that the economy line should be green. It's not a very intuitive game but the way it is designed and plays keeps a lot of the HOI4 types away from it.
My main issue with Vic3 is the war system. I don’t really care about the whole “le playing army man” and I always felt like the combat fell apart when the Great Wars started and it couldn’t really emulate World War I, but the alternative in Vic3 is so much worse. The front system makes no sense for 75% of the game’s timeframe when the name of the game was mobile standing armies moving to fight each other (in the case of conventional peer conflict) and punitive expeditions being launched by nimble expeditionary forces.
 
Have you ever wanted to play hoi4 with your favorite animatronic band?
I went ahead and decided to bite the bullet and play it. Turns out it seems more like he personally ripped the animations from the FNAF games directly and and tied them to the time to such an extent you have to complete the whole day/tick before the animation stops although the animatronic scream sound effect only lasts for the actual clip they use in the FNAF games.
 
Giving women and ethnic minorities the right to vote? Reinstate slavery and install an absolute monarchy under the state capitalism party.
The most based thing about Vicky 2 is that in terms of what you can do with a fascist government it is objectively the best since pretty much every reform and economy type is open for you. Shame it is locked until so late into the game.
 
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Ok TV tropes, but TNO retconned even more of itself than Kaiserreich did and Red World hasn't been updated in years. It's also weird you didn't mentioned a certain Kaiserredux in why Kaiserreich isn't original anymore.
They have TVTropes pages becase TNO had one which they made it into their defacto wiki.
Yep, pretty much.
 
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TNO retconned even more of itself than Kaiserreich and Red World hasn't been updated in years.
I haven't played it in years but the impression I get from the community is that everything either has been or is planned to be retconned with the entire premise and setting essentially being on the chopping block. Kaierreich (despite my criticism) is still recognizable on some level with the American Civil War and other major story beats remaining since DH and Sternberg is still around at least. It still has a lot of its original DNA, as opposed to going through the equivalent of a cultural revolution.
It's also weird you didn't mentioned a certain Kaiserredux
KX is if anything more relevant than the existence of less popular mods like TNO and Red Flood with regards to how detractors feel since it's the only case where a community fork has become one of the most popular mods out there. Really says something about the robustness and size of the KR community as a whole.
 
I haven't played it in years but the impression I get from the community is that everything either has been or is planned to be retconned with the entire premise and setting essentially being on the chopping block
They keep changing the timeline every release and have no real vision because they're stuck trying to create a perfect world in a fucking WW2 game, the OG "all the Russias" was pretty minimal with the historical butterflies since it was just a light flip of Fascist Russia vs Monarchist Germoney vs isolationist America, in this iteration leftoids were utterly irrelevant because fuck you L*nin, Syndicalism was pulled out of the dustbin of history to grid-fill the ideological hole which had the unfortunate consequence of attracting real communism appreciators.
They've been correcting the record ever since, shoutout to Davisx3m the unironic member of the Communist Party, fuck you you're still wrong about Ken Loach.
 
Speaking of OWB, has there ever been any 'reactions' from the creators regarding the recent Fallout TV show? I fucking hope the devs behind that mod don't fuck it up by trying to incorporate any ideas from the TV show into the mod.

I know the devs are likely to be partly troons (I mean look up Robot City, a Doki Doki Literature Club reference in a Fallout themed HOI4 mod? Can't get any more troon than that without adding in ropes!) but they can't be that buck broken to where they have to toe the Todd Howard line and accept the TV show as gospel.
If they eventually add the East Coast I think it'd be funny af to have Nate be a canonical war criminal like Emil suggested. Would be the best worldbuilding for F4 by far.
 
Trust me, when people give Vicky 3 flak as a direct downgrade of Vicky 2 they mean it. Too many Paraodox dickriders try to convince themselves into believeing they aren't meant to be the same game, but they are.
The only problem with Vicky 2 I had is the broken saves, the economy crashing when you reload a save, and possibly causing the game to crash.
The most based thing about Vicky 2 is that in terms of what you can do with a fascist government it is objectively the best since pretty much every reform and economy type is open for you. Shame it is locked until so late into the game.
Agreed, they also block every reform if they are in the opposition. When I try to use fascism to fix my country's economy, the middle/lower class fucks keep clamoring for representation for no reason. This is especially the economic/capitalist AI that builds factory in the game is retarded. I just want the state to build non-retarded factory choices, and I'll do it manually if I have to.

The only time the capitalist AI was non-retarded was when I managed to unite republican China, I made the country so rich that the capitalist AI can't stop building and expanding factories non stop over the high pop density regions, can't fail if you have the cheapest labor and non-existent safety laws. Everything went swell until a threat of a mass revolt for minimum wage pushed me to implement it. It actually made the lower class poorer somehow, not being able to afford luxury goods for their class (beer, which incidentally lowers class consciousness), driving political demands. Good thing the game ends by 1936, I can't see how the Chinese can work in such appalling conditions without drinking.
 
I haven't played it in years but the impression I get from the community is that everything either has been or is planned to be retconned with the entire premise and setting essentially being on the chopping block.
They are trying so hard to convert it into its own IP. But the problem is that with every new update a little bit of the old KR DNA gets removed and something new, boring, gay and what is clearly is some tranny "writer" fantasy (the most recent China update were pretty much every path for almost all Chinese warlords is a variation of syndicalism) gets added.

What ever happened to that live series they were making and posting on YouTube?
 
Syndicalism was pulled out of the dustbin of history to grid-fill the ideological hole which had the unfortunate consequence of attracting real communism aappreciators.
It will never not be funny to me that so many of the KR retards talk about syndicalism as if it were a good thing. You can tell that not a one of them has actually been in a union, nor have they been around many of the blue-collar laborers that make up the body of Union membership.

They all think it's some kind of gay utopian communism shit, and all these unions would support faggotry and troonery and so forth. They keep forgetting that Fascism had it's roots in the Italian trade unions.
apparently.
 
It will never not be funny to me that so many of the KR retards talk about syndicalism as if it were a good thing. You can tell that not a one of them has actually been in a union, nor have they been around many of the blue-collar laborers that make up the body of Union membership.

They all think it's some kind of gay utopian communism shit, and all these unions would support faggotry and troonery and so forth. They keep forgetting that Fascism had it's roots in the Italian trade unions.
apparently.
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Vindicated as always.
 
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