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Why women would prefer to be alone in the woods with a bear than a man​

Would you rather find yourself alone in the woods with a bear or a man? This is the question currently dividing social media. Based on the responses online, it looks like most women answering the question say they would choose the bear, a decision that is shocking many men.

The reactions show some men don’t understand women’s experiences. The assertion that women would prefer to encounter a bear is based on evidence about the rate of male violence against women, and on a lifetime of learning to fear and anticipate this violence. This is especially true of sexual violence, something which would not be associated with encountering a bear.

According to the World Health Organization, one in three women – around 736 million globally – will have experienced sexual or physical violence by an intimate partner or sexual violence from a non-partner in their lifetime. This figure has largely remained unchanged over the past decade.

Being attacked by a bear is much less common, with only 664 attacks worldwideover 15 years, and very few fatal attacks. And bears tend to avoid humans, attacking only when provoked or protecting their young.


This is not about generalising or fearing all men. Women know that not all men are dangerous. But women don’t know which men they should fear, only that male violence and male entitlement to women’s bodies is something that they have to be on guard for.

Women are commonly victims of sexualised violence, and men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators (including against other men). There are enough men who have hurt or are capable of hurting women, and women have no way of knowing which ones these are. While much violence against women comes from men they know, the risk of danger from men they don’t know is something that informs their day-to-day lives.

For example, research shows that women change their behaviour – making certain decisions about the routes they take or what they wear – to avoid harassment or abuse from men in public. Scholars such as Fiona Vera-Gray refer to this as safety work.

Women’s view of men is also coloured by their non-violent actions that harm women. Clearly, bears also do not contribute to or uphold systemic sexism and misogyny, but most men do.

My research on misogynistic online groups has explored how men engage in acts against women that reinforce gender inequality.

Writer Emma Pitman has described this phenomenon using the analogy of a human pyramid. The choices of some men to stay silent about abuse is the base of the pyramid, holding up other men who engage in misogynistic jokes or commit violence.

The overall effect, whether deliberate or via ignorance or indifference, is to normalise and support the actions of male sexual predators and domestic abuse perpetrators.

This culture props up the men who are silent bystanders, observing sexism, harassment or abuse but doing nothing, the men who make or laugh along with the sexist or rape jokes, those who are rape apologists and blame women for their sexual victimisation, those who become aggressive when women turn them down, those who stalk, control and abuse women, and those who are rapists, sexual harassers and murderers. This continuum of misogyny is women’s everyday reality – and at no point do bears feature.

Men on the defensive​

Men are generally surprised, defensive even, when the subject of male violence against women is discussed. This is often where people invoke the response “not all men”.

When women took to social media to express their anger and devastation following the murder of Sarah Everard by a police officer in 2021, #NotAllMen trended online. Meanwhile, police advised womennot to walk alone at night, placing the burden of avoiding violence on women.

This conversation is about privilege, and not recognising it. Many men are able to move through their daily lives not being worried that they are going to be attacked or raped, can walk alone late at night without taking any safety precautions or even not having such thoughts cross their minds, and do not feel their hearts beat faster if they hear footsteps behind them. It may not be all men, but it is all women, who live smaller lives because of the threat of some men’s violence.

These discussions are an opportunity for men to understand women’s genuine fears and to be part of the solution rather than the problem.
 
The bear channel - 24 hours, 7 days a week, cycling between - CCTV footage of people exiting their houses on the way to work only to get ambushed by a bear popping out from behind the bins, or they get in and start the engine only for a bear to pop up in the back seat - and hours and hours of 'audio commentary' of people who are presently being eaten by bears. Just "Oh the bear is eating me... Oh now he's eating my arm... Oh there goes a leg... Oh now he's eating my toes... Oh he's rolled me over so I can't see what he's doing right now but I think, yep, he is, he's stripping the flesh off my back... This is a deep pain... Remember in passion of the Christ when that guy whips Jesus? I bet this is what it feels like... Oh now he's back to eating my leg..."
See this is why we need that flame throwing robot dog.

Or bee bombs. Bear eating your leg? Just throw the glass vial of African bees and watch them murder the bear and only sometimes everyone else in the vicinity.
 
If it makes them feel any better, i don't think any man would want to be alone in the woods with a woman who thinks like this either.
That's the problem. They "feel".

Women constantly bitch and whinge about feeling unsafe alone at night despite the fact that statistically, it's men who are more likely to be assaulted. And then get their panties in a bunch when you tell them that. Because they "feel" unsafe.

And they get coddled for their feelings. Which is why, even if men are in more danger, they keep feeling that way. Because there's enough people to nod their heads and neglect the male experience, those feelings persist.
 
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Basically, white women mistake bears for negroes.

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Obviously, the vast majority of women have never been in proximity of a bear compared to the plethora of stranger men they encounter every minute or so to evaluate the likelihood of being attacked by one or the other.

The real issue, though, is that this is all a performance. A coping mechanism by feminists and girlbosses. The conversation has gotten so pathetic that they’re actually saying they’d rather be around wild beasts more than me, and basically is asking for assurance that men won’t be worse than wild beasts. If men were actually beasts, this appeal would be pointless, so they’re already making themselves look stupid.

It’s like them saying Lizzo is beautiful. They have no intention of being like Lizzo (gaining all that weight) despite saying she’s beautiful and authentic and shit. Because they know in actuality, she’s not. They’re lying and being disingenuous just to dunk on men. Because they hate men.
 
The bear channel - 24 hours, 7 days a week, cycling between - CCTV footage of people exiting their houses on the way to work only to get ambushed by a bear popping out from behind the bins, or they get in and start the engine only for a bear to pop up in the back seat - and hours and hours of 'audio commentary' of people who are presently being eaten by bears. Just "Oh the bear is eating me... Oh now he's eating my arm... Oh there goes a leg... Oh now he's eating my toes... Oh he's rolled me over so I can't see what he's doing right now but I think, yep, he is, he's stripping the flesh off my back... This is a deep pain... Remember in passion of the Christ when that guy whips Jesus? I bet this is what it feels like... Oh now he's back to eating my leg..."
"This Saturday, the biography of Timothy Treadwell."
 
Many men are able to move through their daily lives not being worried that they are going to be attacked or raped, can walk alone late at night without taking any safety precautions or even not having such thoughts cross their minds, and do not feel their hearts beat faster if they hear footsteps behind them.

What the fuck are you talking about? I never walk alone without keeping my head on a swivel, keeping an eye on how close people get, and calculating how close they have to be to land a punch/kick in self defense

They really have no idea
 
the question pisses people off because your answer depends on a huge number of assumptions that aren't expressed in your answer.

I'd pick a bear, but that's because:
  • The question presupposes, to me, that there is some danger afoot and this is a survival situation.
  • The bear would either be a Eurasian Bear or Black Bear, based on where I've lived, and those bears simply are not dangerous.
  • Based on where I've lived, assuming the man is a random person plucked from general population, they could be a nigger or Albanian, and those are more likely to be dangerous.
  • I would probably have a gun if I am in the woods, and having a gun effectively means even Grizzlies do not pose as much danger.
  • A bear never has a gun, but men can have guns. If a dangerous man is encountered, he will have a gun, and then me having a gun doesn't assure safety.
So you can kind of see that my state of mind really informs my answer.


Women would probably pick bears because:
  • Almost all rapes where the perpetrator is a stranger is a crime of opportunity. A man who desires to rape rarely goes out of his way to rape, instead he will rape when an opportunity arises where he can get away with it. The predators who go out of their way to scope out victims are much rarer.
  • Women are less likely to carry guns. A full-grown woman can fend off a black bear by simply making noise. A woman can almost never fend off a man, assuming both are in similar shape.
  • The question posed can be interpreted in the extremes: you're getting a feral man living in the woods, and a small black bear as options. If the question was asking if you wanted to meet a nice man or a big dangerous grizzly, what would be the purpose of the question?
  • Women could also probably assume that the man is plucked from general population and could be a nigger.

Most men would probably pick other men because:
  • I think most men are assuming the bear is a grizzly bear which is fucking dangerous. Wild grizzlies kill 2 people a year in the US. If the bear wasn't a dangerous Grizzly, what is the purpose of the question, after all?
  • Men will assume that in this situation is equal-footed. Whatever you have, he has. There won't be a situation where he is armed and you are not.
  • Men will assume the man is not from general population, but an honest outdoorsman enjoying nature. Why else is he in the woods?
  • Men are also more likely to presuppose the situation as favorably for the man as possible if they want to believe the women choosing the bear are just stupid - how could they choose a big Grizzly bear over a Christian sportsman in lumberjack outfit with an ax and hunting rifle?

I really think people who can't understand why someone would choose the option they don't choose lack the mental capacity to understand theory of mind. When someone says "the bear", you're just comparing that answer against what you've pictured in your head with the gaps filled in, and not what their mental image for the situation is.
 
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I really think people who can't understand why someone would choose the option they don't choose lack the mental capacity to understand theory of mind. When someone says "the bear", you're just comparing that answer against what you've pictured in your head with the gaps filled in, and not what their mental image for the situation is.
I think they are upset because they think women are choosing the bear out of spite because "How dare you say I am dangerous?! I am a nice guy!!!" and to troll men (to which they ofc reply by sperging out super hard and making memes of women being ripped apart by bears to prove the women's point) or they just see it as an opportunity to say "women are so dumb hurr durr they don't even know a bear is dangerous, strange men aren't at all dangerous to women, that's just female hysterics and it's more likely a man get falsely accused of rape than a woman be actually raped!!!" and I think a little bit is also because they feel rejected because their pornbroken minds immediately think of it as a sexual competition scenario where the woman turns them down and rejects them. It's all very hilarious.
 
I think they are upset because they think women are choosing the bear out of spite because "How dare you say I am dangerous?! I am a nice guy!!!" and to troll men (to which they ofc reply by sperging out super hard and making memes of women being ripped apart by bears to prove the women's point) or they just see it as an opportunity to say "women are so dumb hurr durr they don't even know a bear is dangerous, strange men aren't at all dangerous to women, that's just female hysterics and it's more likely a man get falsely accused of rape than a woman be actually raped!!!" and I think a little bit is also because they feel rejected because their pornbroken minds immediately think of it as a sexual competition scenario where the woman turns them down and rejects them. It's all very hilarious.

which is my point about why men maybe might want to be a little more concerned about what psyops are being done to them to destroy relations between the sexes and a little less about the ladies
 
Most young women with TikTok live in urban areas with large minority populations and no bears. Obviously they're more terrified of being raped and/or murdered than they are of being mauled. JaQuatravious lives a block away. The nearest bear lives ten miles away.
 
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