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NJB is one of those colossal douchebags that you just can’t wait to see get his comeuppance through some huge drama kicking up in his community, either through personal shit or a LazerPig situation where someone who actually knows what they’re talking about absolutely annihilates him.

“and I’ll be there! In all my glory, watching, watching as it all comes crumbling down…”
 
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I also love “cars suck because you’re always stuck in traffic and also are always going a billion miles an hour over pedestrians.”
You don't get it. A carbrain's need for speed is so great that when presented with traffic they are compelled do drive on the sidewalk and go as fast as they can.
 
His goal is to make it so that even if you can afford to drive a car after all the punitive taxes they place on it, it would be useless for going anywhere because they've limited the driving speed to biking speed. They also plan on removing almost all parking,
This is already how most downtowns are, and outside of the major cities they are... dying. Why would I drive at a crawl for half an hour to get to a store that only has a 25 percent chance of having any free parking spots? I'm just gonna go to the other location out in the suburbs, at the strip mall...
 
And some comments telling him he's flatly wrong about several points:
Ah yes, he pretty clearly opposed giving hard speed limits all the attention in this video.
But now the right speed is settled, period, and you are infantile if you question it.

Let's not forget the blatant tu quoque he deploys.
"We should improve car efficiency somewhat"
"Yet you don't ambulate yourself with a completely carbon-neutral mode of transportation? Curious! I am very intelligent."
 
"Yeah, blow through stoplights!"
"Yeah, vandalize cars!"
"WHOA WAIT THEY'RE EXPLOITING THE LAW, STOP THEM!"

I know this is not the first example of this sort of open hypocrisy but it's all so tiresome.
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I wonder what the deleted comments were.
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"Yeah, blow through stoplights!"
"Yeah, vandalize cars!"
"WHOA WAIT THEY'RE EXPLOITING THE LAW, STOP THEM!"

I know this is not the first example of this sort of open hypocrisy but it's all so tiresome.
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I wonder what the deleted comments were.
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I see so many people on the roads here that have clearly illegally tinted license plate covers and the cops I guess dont care at all, since I see so many of them. I might get one, I was hit by a camera enforcement ticket (which are just money printers for the PD) and maybe the cover would prevent those.
 
BOLLARDS

Attention faggots and homosexuals and niggers - the next big fuckcar thing will be BOLLARDS.

See https://josh.works/bollards (a)

How is reasonable safety devices placed on the sides of roads going to turn it to a fuckcars scenario you ask? How could separating traffic with physical devices that prevent vehicles from hitting pedestrians be bad? You'd be surprised! The carfuckers will take something that everyone would be in favor of (saving lives) and instead of making it a discussion about cost benefit and where they should go, they'll instead turn it into a .... car rant as seen on hackernudes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40267675 (a)

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Someone at least points out that a 1500 pound killing bucket will kill you just as dead as a 3500 pound one
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Of course the normal faggots line up to complain about F150s (the urban death machine of choice, mind you, the pitbull of cars isn't even a car).

But don't worry! In the future where bollards are everywhere, protecting pedestrians, they will take over the cyclist killing job from the cars:

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https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...ay-10m-to-cyclist-paralyzed-in-bollard-crash/ (a)

The thread then derails into a hilarious justification for why cyclists are never at fault for hitting anything, ever, though every carfucker is always at fault for everything, ever.

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However, let's all be in favor of bollards because they result in hilarious videos of idiots getting their shit fucked up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Cw0QJU8ro

The rest devolves into examples of bollards being added and then removed because cyclists bitched about it, boring standard shit.
 
his is already how most downtowns are, and outside of the major cities they are... dying. Why would I drive at a crawl for half an hour to get to a store that only has a 25 percent chance of having any free parking spots? I'm just gonna go to the other location out in the suburbs, at the strip mall...

Exactly. This is how downtowns started to decline. Why would anyone go downtown when the suburbs have the exact same sort of thing? When department stores opened smaller branch stores, it turned out that people liked the branch stores; and even though the downtown store was larger, it had to contend with the less affluent customer base and the riff-raff that the suburban stores never had to deal with.

Even when urban renewal projects tried to bring people back, there was the same issue of "why would I go to Downtown Mall when there's the same sort of thing at Suburban Mall, but with free parking?" Sometimes planners tried to counteract these issues with upmarket, one-of-a-kind stores, but even those aren't going to work if the downtown is shit. New Orleans Centre, for example, was a three-level mall with Lord & Taylor and Macy's (the only stores of its kind in Louisiana and the only stores of that within a 300 mile radius) but still bombed because it was downtown New Orleans, not particularly convenient to the more tourist-oriented French Quarter, and wasn't a big enough draw anyway.

The best thing that a current-year downtown can ask for is one-of-a-kind year-round attraction that attracts people from not only the suburbs but the entire region, like Magnolia Market in Waco. Even though it vastly increased the demand for parking in downtown, it ended up promoting a number of pro-urban development, and ALL of this is captured on Street View.

1) Thanks to supply & demand, caused a nearby church with ample surface parking to start charging for parking
2) Expanding success of Markets created additional development of the facility (the gravel parking lot from 2017 is no more)
3) Promoted mass transit (the Silo District Trolley ran successfully for almost four years before COVID)
4) Increased foot traffic meant that underused warehouses were remodeled into stores and restaurants, meanwhile, sidewalks and bike lanes were built.
5) Free parking is being slowly but surely pushed to the outskirts with transit and walking bringing people in.

The problem is these retards just think "muh cars" and want to banish them without giving a good reason, hoping to make up the difference by just plopping in a few hundred apartment units. The same applies everywhere else. /r/fuckcars is a midwit board, but you see some people idolizing theme parks for their "car-free ideology". Again, though, if you look at Disneyland today there's a lot of transit connections, but starting off it was literally a giant theme park out in the sticks with a huge parking lot that was as big as the theme park itself. No monorails, no paid parking beyond a nominal 25-cent fee (which was around $2.50 in 2020 money). There is no all-day parking even close to $2.50 anymore near Disneyland, because over the years they built a whole system that commanded higher prices.

That being said, the answer is never as simple as "Build it and they will come" but they never stop and consider "what would make high parking fees and transit into downtown actually worth it?"
 
Exactly. This is how downtowns started to decline. Why would anyone go downtown when the suburbs have the exact same sort of thing? When department stores opened smaller branch stores, it turned out that people liked the branch stores; and even though the downtown store was larger, it had to contend with the less affluent customer base and the riff-raff that the suburban stores never had to deal with.
This is 100% true for me, anyway. Reading this I realize I’m equidistant from a suburb and our downtown, and hands down, I’ll choose the mall out in the burbs. Free parking? Same fucking stores? No fent addicts and homeless encampments? It’s easy

There are maybe a couple of things that may draw me to downtown that isn’t available in the suburbs, but how badly I want to do the thing or go to the place varies, and I have to decide if paying to park, dodging junkies, and avoiding trannies is worth my time and money
 
There are maybe a couple of things that may draw me to downtown that isn’t available in the suburbs, but how badly I want to do the thing or go to the place varies, and I have to decide if paying to park, dodging junkies, and avoiding trannies is worth my time and money
The main things left in downtowns are "shows" - plays, operas, whatnot; and fine dining. The suburbs have perfectly passable food places, and will even have one or two quite nice/fancy places, but there will usually be somewhere in or near downtown that has quite a few bunched together. Stay at a hotel downtown vs a hotel in the suburbs and you'll notice it quite quickly.

Which is why it's really the only thing the carfuckers can bring up, as everything else is "about as accessible" in the suburbs - I don't need fifty walmarts, I just need one. I don't need twelve schools, I just need one.

(Amusingly the world's largest mall, car mecca of the world, is now a major transit hub because ... it's a major destination and it's relatively easy to replace some parking with a train station)
 
This is 100% true for me, anyway. Reading this I realize I’m equidistant from a suburb and our downtown, and hands down, I’ll choose the mall out in the burbs. Free parking? Same fucking stores? No fent addicts and homeless encampments? It’s easy

There are maybe a couple of things that may draw me to downtown that isn’t available in the suburbs, but how badly I want to do the thing or go to the place varies, and I have to decide if paying to park, dodging junkies, and avoiding trannies is worth my time and money
Their anti-suburban crusade is missing how suburbs develop and continue to develop. Obviously it's not "and then oil industries made propaganda", it's the way how certain amenities come on board.
The first thing is often a gas station out in the sticks, then a small housing development not far away, then more housing, then schools, then the first "real" commercial development (small strip malls, fast food), then a real grocery store, and it goes up from there.
A similar development happens in downtowns and gentrifying areas: new or revitalized housing, then some new restaurants and shops, then the stuff that makes it "livable" (grocery stores, schools), etc. The funny thing is, they can achieve almost everything they want in an urban area but it takes time and isn't just "plop down mixed-use buildings".

The main things left in downtowns are "shows" - plays, operas, whatnot; and fine dining. The suburbs have perfectly passable food places, and will even have one or two quite nice/fancy places, but there will usually be somewhere in or near downtown that has quite a few bunched together. Stay at a hotel downtown vs a hotel in the suburbs and you'll notice it quite quickly.

Which is why it's really the only thing the carfuckers can bring up, as everything else is "about as accessible" in the suburbs - I don't need fifty walmarts, I just need one. I don't need twelve schools, I just need one.
Which is why the best thing for downtowns is a year-round attraction which can speed through a lot of the slower gentrification processes and in time will reduce surface parking. Going by our Waco example, it still boils down to an investment. If you pitched an idea to an urbanist of "hey, I want to place a [whatever] in downtown [wherever] because of the ample free parking" they'd probably reject it out of hand because that means more cars in downtown, so in the very short term it's counter-intuitive, but long-range it pumps money into the economy, makes street-level retail viable, and attracts people, some permanently.
 
Which is why the best thing for downtowns is a year-round attraction which can speed through a lot of the slower gentrification processes and in time will reduce surface parking.
This is exactly what happens when it is done well - the Gaslamp Quarter in San Diego used to be a shit area up downtown's ass of warehouses and other detrius; they blew up some bullshit to build a baseball stadium and now it's a tourist and traveller paradise, surrounded on all sides by light rail - https://gaslamp.org

And you know how they got voters to pay for it? They never once suggested that they'd ban cars from being near it. At first there was a bit of a parking kerfuffle as everyone adjusted to it, but pretty damn quickly adequate parking was found and people started realizing that paying $5 for the trolley was a lot cheaper than $30 for parking.
 
You beat me to it!

You missed the comments where one of them says that he would prefer to smell horse manure than car exhaust:
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Someone was so triggered by one of the few dissenting comments that they posted it without context to /r/fuckcars:
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The full thread:
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He must be a Big Oil shill:
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Well Jason wasn't lying about the snark in his newest video.

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I genuinely don't understand how anyone with ears can stand listening to this man's voice, it's one of the most annoying I've heard.
I remember back when urbanism first started getting discussed here on the Farms, there were people claiming "Well most of them are annoying but NJB makes some good points!" I'd still love to pick those people's brains. If you're making a point about irritating new urbanists, you're almost certainly making a point about NJB. Whiny nasally voice, unbearable smugness, over-reliance on heckin' statistics, it's all there.

And honestly that fictitious boomer that he's mocking has a point. It is the delusion of a small child or a liberal(same thing amirite?) that your safety must be guaranteed at all times with endless safety bumpers and a laundry list of rules and regulations. If that really is the mindset with which you approach the world, you honestly might as well set the speed limit to zero and never leave your house and never do anything that might incur a bit of risk ever. What a sad way of looking at the world, truly.

Josh had the right idea, I really do wish redditors would just kill themselves already. They're already dead inside, why should we have to dedicate resources to keeping alive people that do fucking nothing but eat, shit and goon all fucking day?
 
I remember back when urbanism first started getting discussed here on the Farms, there were people claiming "Well most of them are annoying but NJB makes some good points!" I'd still love to pick those people's brains. If you're making a point about irritating new urbanists, you're almost certainly making a point about NJB. Whiny nasally voice, unbearable smugness, over-reliance on heckin' statistics, it's all there.
I watched his first three or four episodes when they were new and they weren't awful. I thought the clever traffic things done in Amsterdam that he showed were interesting. He was always a smug asshole, but I was able to tune that out and look at the street design.

But he went crazy really fast. He's now just an unwatchable ranter.
 
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