Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[GainsGoblin]

And reading to him, lots and lots. I know the Speech Therapist reads to Luna and Atlas, but I wonder if Globyn read to Atlas.

I think we all know what the literacy level is like in that household.

 

[Pudgy Bear Claws]

I am childless and can appreciate any insight on how little children should be prompted to speak, especially if there's a delay.

It's actually pretty simple. When they're super little, you just talk to them (exactly like @Sammies#1Fan said) in a calm, gentle voice, and as they get older you ask them simple questions and if they can't/won't verbalize an answer, you help them. You read to them, encourage them to help with the story, sing to them and when they hit that stage where they question everything and never shut up, you listen to them and answer them. When my little pudgy guy hit 2 or so, everything was, "why?" and, "what's that?" He drove me nuts but I always took the time to answer him and encouraged him to ask more complex questions.

 

[centaursTesticle [CT]]

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Ohh oops. My bad. Sorry, carry on!

Good, Woody looks a lot more normal.

If that’s the way Robyn always speaks to Atlas, then it’s likely he does have a speech delay. I though since she only does boomerangs she might not be capturing speech but maybe he’s not speaking.

She baby talks to a 3 1/2 year old and gives him no language skills. Instead of saying “0h, you wunning Atlas? Wunning, wunning” which gives him zero opportunity to respond or even notice her, she should be asking questions. “What is that you are running though?” Is it a dinosaur? What kind? Is it bones? From what animal?” stuff like that. This just comes naturally to a mother.

Oh yeah, I literally just finished a class on language development and this is very true. If you talk to youw chiwd wike dis, thats how theyre gonna learn the pronounciations of those words.

Spoiler: about language development tips for your future-adult

I also wanna add, just as an extra for anyone reading the thread who might be dealing with a child of a similar age: this is a great method to help them develop speech, but also don't overdo it with the "quizzing". Definitely make sure to ask your kid questions, but just always being like "what's this called? What are you doing? And what is THIS color? Whats this animal? What's that? Is that a carrot? Is that Elmo?" Gets overwhelming. Not so much as a baby, but once they're a little older like 3, maybe, and they start having "big" emotions and can either get self conscious, annoyed, or bored, with constant interrogation. Eventually, you should also provide information to them yourself, like instead of asking what everything is, explain what some of it is. Instead of asking about what color everything is, occasionally ask what their favorite color is.

It's not that big of a deal, you just have to make the conscious effort to actually have a discussion after the initial question is asked, so instead of rapid fire inquiries, you sprinkle in a little personal conversation skills and help the kid get more connected to the world around them.
This is a silly video I found recently, but it gets the point across pretty well:

(@speecheasyslp on instagram)

This one too:

(@peds_slp on instagram)

I doubt Robyn could manage any of this, considering even the basic "asking the kid questions" part seems to be an uncommon practice for her. This is probably her first time talking with Atlas about anything other than herself.

She should have been talking to him from the beginning, and giving him language even when he couldn't say it himself: self-talk (narrating what she's doing), parallel talk (narrating what he's doing), communication loops (saying something, waiting for a response whether it's verbal or non-verbal and repeating), joint attention, labeling, open-ended questions, and so on. And he's way too old for baby talk.

(Source: I just took a class on this for a microcredential.)

Edit: typo

Omg I just saw this after typing everything up. I don't have anything to add, so I'm gonna spoiler it. You explained it in much more professional terms than I did lol. All this to basically say

 

[Andoxico]

Ohh oops. My bad. Sorry, carry on!

Sorry, that was a bit of misinformation from me. The videos that are posted here as actual files were broken but are currently being repaired. The videos that are YouTube embeds, however, are permanently broken because the person didn't want their video shared in the "Tard Baby General" and the KiwiFarmers didn't ARCHIVE FUCKING EVERYTHING like they should have. We should all learn from their mistakes.

 

[Sammies#1Fan]

And reading to him, lots and lots. I know the Speech Therapist reads to Luna and Atlas, but I wonder if Globyn read to Atlas.

Of course. That absolutely goes without saying. I was at an evaluation today and when I left the site, there were signs in both English and Spanish in the car line thanking parents for reading 30 minutes to their children tonight. I thought it was pretty cool.

 

[TractorGirl]

Still no birth story? Definitely didn’t go the way she wanted then.

 

[GenociderSyo]

She no longer needs Atlas as a prop so he gets to sleep in now.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

lmao Robyn give it up, there's no way that baby is latched with his face hidden under your shirt

 

[Golden Bat]

Blasts from the past, courtesy of GenociderSyo:

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Motherhood is about Robyn at all times. Her fulfillment and growing. If she grew up Mormon, motherhood is the most important role for a woman, which she infused with woo, and it became a real toxic combo.

The boys will never get what they really need from her, I am certain. They are accessories in her LARP of Mormon crunchy mom.

"My profoundly disabled child has made my life both difficult and inconvenient" is what she meant to say, but was too afraid to.
It's wild how parents talk about kids they assume (or know) won't be able to ever read what they really think. It's also really sad if you ask me.

 

[TractorGirl]

"My profoundly disabled child has made my life both difficult and inconvenient" is what she meant to say, but was too afraid to.
It's wild how parents talk about kids they assume (or know) won't be able to ever read what they really think. It's also really sad if you ask me.

Also Robyn, motherhood is about your child/ren too. Stop eye fucking the camera all day and interact with them. You don’t even play with atlas at the park, you sit on the sidelines with your damn phone. Go on the swings and laugh with him! Race him to the slide! Go on the seesaw and watch his little face when he’s high in the air! I hope one day you have the capacity to see all you’ve missed while filming everything and not being involved.

 

[SpiceyHuman]

She no longer needs Atlas as a prop so he gets to sleep in now.
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Unless Robyn has some strange, three inch long prehensile nipples, Tree baby is no where close to being latched.

His face/nose are just sort of mashed agiasnt areola.

For anyone who chooses not to breastfeed, or just doesnt have alot of experience with it, the nipple should be drawn back deeply into the mouth, with the tip of the nipple closer to the roof of the mouth, and not down agiasnt the tongue.

 

[Bibbity Bobbity]

I like how your toddler getting adequate rest is defined as "sleeping in". That's nomenclature for not showing up for your job, or being lazy.

Which is of course what she means.

 

[Golden Bat]

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I have no idea why she's baking Asians, but she might get in trouble with the law for that. She should at least thank the Lao family for their contribution.

 

[TractorGirl]

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I like how your toddler getting adequate rest is defined as "sleeping in". That's nomenclature for not showing up for your job, or being lazy.

Which is of course what she means.

Atlas is her passive aggressive scapegoat now she has the new babby

 

[Pudgy Bear Claws]

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I like how your toddler getting adequate rest is defined as "sleeping in". That's nomenclature for not showing up for your job, or being lazy.

Which is of course what she means.

Even with her abuse of filters, Robyn is looking rough.

 

[SpiceyHuman]

Even with her abuse of filters, Robyn is looking rough.

One could easily mistake Robyn as the grandma in these photos. She looks absolutely haggard

 

[Naenia Ness]

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I like how your toddler getting adequate rest is defined as "sleeping in". That's nomenclature for not showing up for your job, or being lazy.

Which is of course what she means.

If this is her WITH filters, what do those bags under her eyes look like without filters?

Haggard indeed.

 

[TismFarmer]

Good, Woody looks a lot more normal.

If that’s the way Robyn always speaks to Atlas, then it’s likely he does have a speech delay. I though since she only does boomerangs she might not be capturing speech but maybe he’s not speaking.

She baby talks to a 3 1/2 year old and gives him no language skills. Instead of saying “0h, you wunning Atlas? Wunning, wunning” which gives him zero opportunity to respond or even notice her, she should be asking questions. “What is that you are running though?” Is it a dinosaur? What kind? Is it bones? From what animal?” stuff like that. This just comes naturally to a mother. It shows how few true motherly instincts she has to be talking to a 3 year old that way. Yeah, while they are running you don’t speak to them but before and after. So her baby talk is performative or any conversations with her child are non-existent. Guess they all happened before birth?

By about 4 the why phase comes up and that’s when they say “why?” to everything. “Why is the sky blue, why does the washer make that sound, why does the dog sleep there?” Then they repeat those whys over and over. A parent should learn to answer the question lots of different ways in different words so they absorb language. They don’t really need exact answers about light spectrum and atmosphere, it’s just give and take and learning words. If Atlas ever has a why phase, I can’t imagine either of them doing more than brushing him off. “Dude, I told you once, go play with Woody.”

It just makes me puzzled why she has all this earth mother stuff and really doesn’t give a shit about the actual kids she’s mothering. Surely there is another hippie grift she’d like more?

I know it's all been discussed already but it just peeves me so much that she doesn't model speech for Atlas. She should be narrating his day "You're trying to help Luna? That's so helpful and kind! Is that her blanket? It's lovely and soft isn't it? Do you think she'd like it near her face because it's so soft?" With appropriate pauses for answers.
Now he's older she has even more opportunities to enjoy speech with him and is blowing them off!
Even with my non verbal kid we still spoke as if he was going to answer back and 'translated' his grunts and squeals into"is that yes? You DO want more tickles? OK! Here we go!"
Even before actual words, they need to understand that those noises are communication! I just feel like he's quietly puttering around the house doing his own thing or zoning out in front of tv instead of being interested in their doings and chattering away about it with them. What a way to miss all those adorable toddlerisms!
ETA I also think that a language delay plus social skills defecit is likely to land him an Autistic Spectrum diagnosis in this day and age no matter what his neuro development is.

 

[The Judean People's Front]

three inch long prehensile nipples

This made me laugh way harder than it should have and gave me the best/worst mental image. Thanks for all of that.

 

[Barbarella]

She’s so predictable. Woody is going to spend the next two years being shoved under her blouse for a photo op.

Luna is being now photographed from behind now? The blight must be worse.

And poor darling Atlas is “sleeping” in his bunk with the TV on the wall next to it on all the time. I’ll live and die by the idea he is not autistic but with no social activities or people talking to him, he certainly may be perceived that way-assuming he ever sees anybody outside his family and sister’s useless therapist.

Her dark circles are coming in nicely. And deservedly.