Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Screamer_2]

It’s weird that they’d fix that but not the fakeness of the CGI on Jabba and Jar Jar…

Jar Jar is fine. Watching it on the big screen It was interesting to see in TPM the placement and tracking of the feet on the ground was not great, but early days back then.

The 3D Jabba in ANH has been redone a few times. The original '97 CGI one looks so bad now. The 2004 release updated the original. I not sure if they redid it again or just fixed the compositing. It looked better than I remembered in 4K. I think it was just color-matched better. The biggest issue is that it doesn't match the camera focus depth of the original footage.

I think the most definitive failure in terms of Disney Content from LFL isn't even a Star Wars show---it was that Willow TV series, which, because of either reviewing so poorly or getting such abysmal viewership, was literally axed from existence David Zaslav-style and now only exists through torrent sites.

It was so bad even professional financial journals like Forbes were dancing on the grave of this trainwreck.

It's an interesting thing to think about. Why on earth did they make a Willow TV series? Is it because Warwick Davis was somewhat in the public consciousness because of the Ricky Gervais stuff? Was it just looking for what they owned to do something with?

When has anyone ever heard nostalgia for Willow? I know it exists, I am sure I saw it when I was a kid but I could not tell you anything about it besides Warrick was in it and that chubby chick from the Jurassic World sequel's dad directed it. Why they got rid of that skinny hot chick from the first one is anyone guess...

It's also interesting how they just kind of made it and dropped it. Why not take effort to reintroduce people to Willow? So it's not, "Here's a new TV series, go and do homework, watch this old movie before watching." I honestly was somewhat interested in watching, but I didn't know the original. Never got around to watching the film, so never watched the series. It was never something that I could just open the app, see a new show and watch.

Once again something that George's Lucasfilm understood that the Disney one is blindly dumb on. The Special Editions were done in large part to help refamiliarise the public with Star Wars in the lead up to the prequels. Not, here's a woke follow up to a film from 34 years ago you've never heard of young people.

 

[Mac Monster]

The zoomers redeemed the view of the prequels and became big fans of it do you think gen alpha will do the same for the sequels?

Doubt it. For all their faults, the prequels have a consistent narrative that culminates in episode 3. George set out to tell the origin of Darth Vader and accomplished it (with some hiccups along the way).

The sequel trilogy is schizophrenic as hell, with every entry feeling entirely disconnected from the previous one. The first one is a shitty retread of A New Hope, the second is Round Head's typical autofellatio, and the third is Jar Jar Abrams desperately trying to untangle the mess Round Head made. It's kind of difficult to enjoy a film trilogy when the last two entries are at odds with each other.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Besides "Somehow Palpatine has returned" there really aren't any memeable lines in the sequels which will kill their longevity with zoomers and alphas.

 

[Screamer_2]

Besides "Somehow Palpatine has returned" there really aren't any memeable lines in the sequels which will kill their longevity with zoomers and alphas.

"They fly now."
"A good question for another time."

The only memorable lines represent how dumb the films are.

Lines that could have been memorable like, "I will finish what you started." Aren't because they were never given the context to make them memorable. They're nothing. They ended up being hollow.

 

[Rick The Stick]

The only actually memorable line from Dinsey Wars is "Chewie... We're home." And it was completely wasted and un-earned. Yet it was still the only genuine line in their entire catalog to date.

 

[Grave Ghost]

Besides "Somehow Palpatine has returned" there really aren't any memeable lines in the sequels which will kill their longevity with zoomers and alphas.

The only memorable memes that came from Disney Wars probably had to be Kylo Ren screaming "MORE" and that one stormtrooper yelling traitor, but the latter mostly burned out after TFA left theaters. Shit, as I was typing this I searched traitor into Google Images and YouTube in all caps and with an exclamation point and nothing came up for it.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Is anyone desperate to see any exciting stories told about the Casino Planet denizens?

Enter Holly Antilles, the new, enthusiastic, young law enforcement agent addition to Gail Thysson's team. Gail tasks Holly to investigate the murder of a former Imperial officer who was expending his ill-gained wealth on the roulettes when she got herself murdered. POW! Expectations subverted!

Now enter Gail Thysson's actual team: Syrah Saddle, a cynical Clarice Starling expy with a traumatic past, Warwick Nyger, a suave young, chill investigator, Willow Th'rrp, a former Twi'lek slave now turned homicide agent, Mack Stack, the gorgeous jock with a heart of gold and a painful lack of character with a traumatic past and Grug Stardust, the quirky, crazy, earnest lab specialist. Together, they will solve the murder-of-the-week along with Detective Jan Harsh, a jaded out Corellian policeman with whom Thysson often exchanges deep quips.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

It’s weird that they’d fix that but not the fakeness of the CGI on Jabba and Jar Jar…

I'd guess because Yoda has infinitely less screentime and dialogue than Jar Jar, so it meant far less labor and time on ILM's part to implement the change.

In the case of CG Jabba, he has maybe two spoken lines in his entire appearance across all three PT Films, so I can understand why he wasn't a priority. Whereas Yoda is in all three movies, and has a lot more to say and do, so I would imagine Lucas--whose Special Edition changes likes Palpatine's hologram and Anakin's Ghost were down to consistency across all six movies---likely changed Yoda so he'd look consistent across all three prequel films.

In retrospect, I think it was the right call. Going from a rather lackluster puppet Yoda (who looks nothing like his ESB version, for the record) to a robust CG model in Ep. II and III was always a visual whiplash for me when revisiting these films.

The zoomers redeemed the view of the prequels and became big fans of it do you think gen alpha will do the same for the sequels?

I dunno, TFA is about to turn ten years old. Do you see/hear anyone talk about that film with glowing praise or adoration in retrospect?

Because that film seems to have all but disappeared from all discourse, normie or fan-driven, relating to Star Wars.

It's an interesting thing to think about. Why on earth did they make a Willow TV series?

Because these companies need to flood their streaming services with "kantent", regardless of whether or not anyone watches it or not. If they aren't milking their owned IPs to satisfy a content quota, they're going to have shareholders breathing down their neck, demanding: "Why aren't you exploiting X brand in your IP stable to lure in subscriber growth?"

To provide another example of how much these streaming services are whoring out old IO's to shamelessly make streaming cash-grab shows...did you know that there was a prequel TV series to Grease recently?

...I shit you not, it's real, and it's called Rise of the Pink Ladies, and it's a "yass queen" girl empowerment origin story of Rizzo and the Pink Ladies. And despite being a spin-off of an infinitely more culturally-relevant and impactful film than Willow, the series did so poorly that it was cancelled after one season and removed from Paramount Plus (granted, it wasn't yeeted in quite the way Willow was, since you can at least still buy Pink Ladies on digital storefronts, whereas all legal accessibility to Willow has been scrubbed from the face of the earth).

We're living in an age where megacorpos are just funneling out hundreds upon thousands of classic IP revivals, reboots, prequels and sequels, all at five times the rate they normally do because of the need to fill subscriber quotas...a far more treacherous, fickle and unobtainable metric of growth than box office earnings.

Disney's already planning on making sequels or follow-ups to stuff like The Black Cauldron and Gargoyles, IPs that have meager cult followings at best, but they nevertheless plan to exploit for streaming shenanigans. I mean, the fact that they made a sequel series to Hocus Pocus of all fucking things (which, spoilers---nobody fucking watched) should tell you how desperate they are.

Besides "Somehow Palpatine has returned" there really aren't any memeable lines in the sequels which will kill their longevity with zoomers and alphas.

The only dialogue I remember from the ST are lines that are so bad or poorly delivered that they sound like something from a barely-legible slashfic conjured up by a half-retarded landwhale on Tumblr:

"I'm being torn apart...I need to be FREE of this pain!"

"I can see through the CRACKS IN YOUR MASK!!!"

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[ZMOT]

When has anyone ever heard nostalgia for Willow? I know it exists, I am sure I saw it when I was a kid but I could not tell you anything about it besides Warrick was in it and that chubby chick from the Jurassic World sequel's dad directed it. Why they got rid of that skinny hot chick from the first one is anyone guess...

I did, not many fantasy movies around in general and willow was a pretty good one to boot. it's similar to people fondly remembering labyrinth or legend.

why it happened? probably because lucasfilm is fucking desperate and raping all of it's old properties in the vain hope they will not be total shit.
ironically there are already existing sequel books for willow, they could've just adapted those. I remember them somewhat meh, but still better than what we actually got (not a high mark, granted).

 

[Vining]

Remember, troopers! A rebel-fag cannot continue his insolence if you disable his hand.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The zoomers redeemed the view of the prequels and became big fans of it do you think gen alpha will do the same for the sequels?

Gen Alpha doesn't give a shit about the sequels, or Star Wars for that matter. They're too busy with Minecraft, Skibidi-Toilet, and Fortnite.

In both cases, the Millennials were the fans. The Millennials were kids when the Prequels came out, and they became fans of it. Not to mention that a good number of them along with some Gen X and Boomer folks were fans of the Sequels.

 

[The Un-Clit]

Gen Alpha doesn't give a shit about the sequels, or Star Wars for that matter. They're too busy with Minecraft, Skibidi-Toilet, and Fortnite.

In both cases, the Millennials were the fans. The Millennials were kids when the Prequels came out, and they became fans of it. Not to mention that a good number of them along with some Gen X and Boomer folks were fans of the Sequels.

Not a single GenXer of my acquaintance (who all grew up with the original trilogy in their childhood) has anything but utter contempt and feelings of betrayal for the Sequels. I can't speak for boomers.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Not a single GenXer of my acquaintance (who all grew up with the original trilogy in their childhood) has anything but utter contempt and feelings of betrayal for the Sequels. I can't speak for boomers.

Most ST fans I've seen are Millennials, Gen X-ers, or Boomers. Gen Z and Gen Alpha don't give a flying shit.

 

[Gondolindrim]

It's really funny how Disney is so insistent on making live action shows over cartoons when they clearly can't or won't do decent fight choreography. For a while I couldn't understand. But I figure the fights aren't the point, the point is shoveling in as many celebrity guest stars as humanly possible to get people to watch.

Immersion be damned.

 

[Zero MK 2]

It's really funny how Disney is so insistent on making live action shows over cartoons when they clearly can't or won't do decent fight choreography. For a while I couldn't understand. But I figure the fights aren't the point, the point is shoveling in as many celebrity guest stars as humanly possible to get people to watch.

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Immersion be damned.

I think its the nigger exhaustion. Lando and mace windu never outstay their welcome and don’t make skin color into a fucking character trait in a series with aliens of all kinds of skin colors.

Like twi leks that have an actual rainbow variety of skin colors yet never ever bring that up like niggers do.

 

[Midwit]

I watched andor today all 12 hours of it ......... I was wrong its shit, it is shit

Could you elaborate? I've heard nothing but praise and I want to hear the opinions from the other side.

Wedge Antilles and Crix Madine are the fucking backbone of the Alliance war effort

Looks like my headcanon of the Corellians doing all the heavy lifting was actually right all along, who would've thought?

There also comes a point where there's only so much story that can be told in a certain span of time - such as the Clone Wars era - before it gets repetitive, boring, or starts to step on/contradict itself.

Bad Batch starting during and taking place immediately after RotS was actually pretty interesting, but unfortunately the show was tethered to the least interesting characters possible during that time frame.

How profitable are the new star wars shows to Disney

Disney+ is a service where people pay $10/month for unlimited access to The Simpsons and Disney uses that money to create an unending stream of slop to so that they can advertise the fact that there's new content being made all the time despite the fact that nobody really cares outside of reaction youtubers and autistic Filoni fanboys.

twi leks that have an actual rainbow variety of skin colors

Not in Disney wars, they all have normal human skin now! Isn't that great?!

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Could you elaborate? I've heard nothing but praise and I want to hear the opinions from the other side.

It's not shit nor should it be overly praised. It's a decent show that's a bit slow and by slow I mean you can tell they were padding the run time with establishing shots that even David Lynch would say go on for a bit too long. THE MESSAGE isn't beating you over the head like every other D+ show and some of the acting is pretty good.

 

[Not Even Twice]

It's really funny how Disney is so insistent on making live action shows over cartoons when they clearly can't or won't do decent fight choreography. For a while I couldn't understand. But I figure the fights aren't the point, the point is shoveling in as many celebrity guest stars as humanly possible to get people to watch.

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Immersion be damned.

Lizzo and Jack Black I know, is the lady on the bottom also supposed to be famous?

 

[Gondolindrim]

Lizzo and Jack Black I know, is the lady on the bottom also supposed to be famous?

Indira Varma. She's in stuff occasionally.

 

[Quarterback Rex Grossman]

A shame I'll miss out on TPM in theaters since I saw it all the other times, but I can't stomach giving Disney more money. The 2012 3D rerelease sucked, though (the 3D was way too subtle), so I don't think I'm missing much.

Indira Varma. She's in stuff occasionally.

She was hella nekkid in Kama Sutra then didn't do anything until Rome, then again didn't do anything until Gay of Thrones, then....

Basically cable and streaming are keeping her from living on the street.