Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

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Is there a surefire way of telling this was edited my mods and not the user themselves?
HN moderator "dang" posted in the thread and confirmed it.
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dang said:
We redact PII on HN pretty regularly. The basic principles are that we don't want anyone to get in trouble from anything they posted on HN, and we don't want HN commenters to use other people's personal details as ammunition.

I find this unconvincing.
If you look at the HN post about Liz Fong-Jones, it was posted on Sept 23, 2019. Now look at the post over on the Wayback Machine...
As of July 13, 2023, the post was still uncensored: https://web.archive.org/web/20230713082916/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21053930
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But sometime between that date and Sept 19, 2023, the post was censored to remove Liz Fong-Jones' name: https://web.archive.org/web/20230919213356/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21053930
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The post remained uncensored for nearly four years. It's obvious what happened here; In 2023, Liz Fong-Jones clearly name-searched himself, found that 2019 HN post, and then convinced the HN moderators to redact his name.
Now sure... maybe the HN mods have a policy of redacting names or other personal information upon request. I don't know if that's true, but it doesn't sound far-fetched. However, it's also possible that Liz Fong-Jones coerced them in some way or leaned on the business relationship between Tall Poppy and HackerNews to get what he wanted.

It doesn't inspire confidence in me that while the moderator admitted the post was censored, he didn't mention anything about the name-redaction being requested. I feel like he's covering for Dong Gone by trying to play it off as a random, routine moderator action. But hey, maybe I'm wrong! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



Proof that "dang" is a HN moderator, in case that's needed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_News#History
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It's horrific to think that the only reason he's obsessed with the forum is because he couldn't fucking admit years ago that TransLifeline was a scam, and only admits it right after he gets a 800 page thread here. All he had to do was say he was duped and none of this would be happening.

The post remained uncensored for nearly four years. It's obvious what happened here; In 2023, Liz Fong-Jones clearly name-searched himself, found that 2019 HN post, and then convinced the HN moderators to redact his name.
This thread is like 27th in Google results, but it can't hurt to have a text copy.

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a4e329e1270a on Sept 23, 2019 | parent | context | favorite | on: Google Employees Explain How They Were Retaliated ...

This boycott and these comments are being orchestrated by Liz Fong-Jones. Liz Fong-Jones is a transexual activist, and an offender in sexual harassment themselves. I'm posting this on a throwaway for obvious reasons.

I worked at Google from 2010-2014. Over the summer of 2012 or 2013, I joined an Eve Online "Corporation" (guild) with Liz, and another one of my coworkers. It was a crazy place. Liz had a fanatical hatred of "Rape Jokes". Rape was not a joke to Liz. Rape was a fantasy that Liz was all too happy to describe in great detail. The corporation was "Kink Friendly". I'm embarrassed to say that that was part of the appeal to me - I'm happy to tie my girlfriends up as part of roleplay. Liz's fantasies were a great deal more detailed and a great deal less fantasy oriented than I would like. I left that corporation after a while, though not as quickly as I should have. I was young, I was confused, and based on the success of her "Real Names Considered Harmful" letter, I believed that Liz was a credible, accredited leader.

The same coworker who introduced me to Liz would, several times, invite me to join them for lunch at "Club Z". I declined - Partially because something seemed off, mostly because I was satisfied with the lunches at Google. I would only later find out that "Club Z" is not a lunch place - It's a (rather infamous) Gay Bathhouse here in Seattle.

While I was in that corp, though, I was sexually assaulted by a former friend. About a year I knew and had considered a friend had some out as bi, and had "Confessed their love" to me... by forcefully kissing me at a party. I was embarrassed, I was not interested, and I made it pretty politely clear, to which they reacted badly. Now they had come out as "trans", and received an outpouring of support from mutual friends. Said friends convinced me to give them another chance. At their urging, I agreed to hang out with this friend, at a "Movie Night". A movie night which no-one else showed to. Said former friend pressured me to try weed, which I had never done before. Okay. Red flag. I was dumb, and I regret it. Said friend offered to show me his "Uncle's" stash of Child Pornography. I already suspected they were a pedo, but, yeah. Should have run right then, was drunk. Said "friend" then tried to force himself on me. I am not bigger, but I am strong, and I forced them off. I was also drunk, and spent several uncomfortable hours waiting to sober up, repeatedly fending off unwanted advances.

Anyway: Being dumb, having listened to too much of the bullshit excuses, I went to the only Trans* person I knew to talk about it. Liz. They told me how much I was in the wrong, how important it was for Trans* people to explore their sexuality, and called me a monster for not having responded positively. "What if a biological woman had hit on you?" - The tired old canard was trotted out.

I do not have any direct evidence of wrongdoing by Liz Fong-Jones. I only know that they hang out with, and are supported by, people who were long overdue for censure. People who were repeatedly able to convince others that they were the victims despite their clear aggression.


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Google, Liz Fong-Jones, Consent Accident, Honeycomb.io, TallPoppy.com
 
This was a well written and honest account of the state of things. I appreciate your writing it, and hope it hits the right notes with people of influence.

I hope you continue to write. You will develop your rhetorical skills the more you do it. Instead of worrying about the ride or die gumroad fans, consider publishing shorter, more digestible entries to substack, more often, and promote them on xitter as long as you have access to both. Substack is a mainstream outlet that you have unfettered access to. Make more of it. You've got more influence than you think.
 
🤷 I am getting very conflicting reports that I am both good at writing and terrible. I feel like everything I said flows cohesively one point to the next.
I'm a retard and I managed to navigate the entire thing understood everything being said, you can't please everyone.
I hope to see it used as proof Liz has and does censor the internet because of consent accident.
 
The fact Kiwi Farms Wikipedia page is edited and controlled by people who oppose it's existence is tantamount proof that Liz wants to control the truth.
Using codes of practice and snaking his way into the control of the narrative.
It's easy to see if you check any "talk" about the page which was slightly discussed in the article penned by josh.
People don't usually check the talk page or the people attempting edits it's a disgusting hive of sjws that have infested the space to control the narrative.
Guess who invoked Wu with the farms recently also:
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They also downplay naming Chris Chan citing a harassment policy
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I believe they do this for keffals too
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What I personally find strange is we only post here some post on X I'd imagine but Liz must have to constantly be name searching himself just to keep the narrative straight, it must be very tiresome.
Like Wu Liz self inserted himself into the limelight under false pretenses.

I don't think Wikipedia should allow people to hold a position of power over who gets to say what on public spaces that are used to bolster your version without any real pushback.

I urge people to look into edits and who's involved, not for devious reasons or harassment but to actually look behind the curtain as some people will not understand how bad it is.

I just wish journalists had some integrity and did real™ journalism.

Edit: check through the log for proof of Liz actively controlling the narrative:


Here is a prime example of how Liz influences the wiki while being in conflict with it
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I'm in conflict tehe others might find it helpful to cite.

Btw Liz if you're reading (you are) I've been monitoring this off and on for a long time, your biggest problem here is your direct discussion rather than the usual narrative control via 6 degrees of separation.
 
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Desmond is Amazing is officially moved from non-binary to trans pronouns.
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See the above post for more information, but the poor groomed kid from Desmond is Amazing has officially trooned out. This was proudly announced/advertised by an organization called Lambda Legal.
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I recognized this name:
https://x.com/LambdaLegal/status/1007007957618393089 [Archive]
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I don't know if there's any significance to this (other than Lambda Legal being some kind of groomer org that Liz approves of and donates to), but I thought I should mention it here.
 
That article is damn well written, and most importantly utterly unimpeachable, simply forcing a spiritual nigger to read it may well have a conversion power.
Can't wait to see what a level 1 chimpout will produce, honestly wouldn't put it past someone like Dong-Gone to pull some Blackwater Pinkerton shit, not that far a jump from legalistic goon to physical ones.
 
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