2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Hamas captured Oct 7 in 4K so I don’t understand how anyone would buy into what the Wikipedia entry says. If this is the account of Oct 7 that the Arab public is guzzling, they really must be as brain dead as some of you have insisted.

They are not brain dead, they are simply willing to omit any information and make any claim that supports the Palestinian side. This is also why all kibbutzim are referred to as "settlements" and all Israelis are considered "prisoners of war". All of Israel is seen as occupied Palestine and all Israelis and their non-Jewish allies are branded as occupiers. In my personal experience, Palestinians will go as far as to say that all Israeli cultural heritage is in fact Palestinian in origin. This goes from minor things like food to claiming that any home in Israel was forcefully expropriated from a Palestinian family. Despite the international community's calls for a ceasefire, this conflict will not cease until either all Palestinians or Israelis are displaced by the other side.

 

[EyeGuy]

Intense attacks around the Awda Hospital in Tel Al-Zaatar:

 

[ForTheHoard]

The first instinct of the Israelis is to lie. So you have the horror of Oct 7. Then you get a shit tonne of lies about mass rapes and beheaded babies. You have news outlets like the New York Times pumping out fake propaganda pieces which their own staff immediately revolt at for having no journalistic standards. You have Israel running around behind closed doors showing the media class videos of OCT 7 mixed with any video of horror by Muslims. Heavily leaning on ISIS atrocities and crimes claiming it's OCT 7.

So it's no wonder people then start to doubt the claims. So whether or not rapes happened. That doesn't change that they lied about rapes and spread it as deliberate propaganda to support the mass slaughter they're conducting. Riling up their own people and bringing out a lot of dormant colonial racism in the west to support the ethnic cleansing of "savages. "

So it's a case of rapes may have occurred, but they always lied about rapes to support committing horrors. So I can't blame people who are against the war crime atrocities to be pointing out they lied to rile up support for the genocide. Whether or not rapes occured.

I wanna know where all the Jewish backed NGO's are that had their head up our asses over every little mistake we made on the battlefield. Mistreat a PoW? Return fire at a mosque? Accidently damage a hospital? There's an army of Steinbergstein lawyers surrounding your commanding officer's desk demanding your head, and there's a really good chance they will get it. We literally had foreign money lobbying the government to criminally prosecute it's own soldiers for following orders. One of the biggest gripes veterans have had since the Vietnam era is that we're not allowed to win wars anymore. If you see the enemy, you have to run in through your chain of command before you can open fire. Most of that shit is directly due to outside pressure from lobbying groups.

Now I'm watching the IDF rig entire city blocks with explosives to wipe out rows of abandoned residential buildings and the lawyers are nowhere to be found. Anyone that tells them to pump the brakes is antisemitic, and our legislature is tripping over themselves to make it a crime. I'm mostly pissed that they're allowed to fight a war properly but goyim lives aren't valuable enough to be warranted the same comforts. They compare Oct. 7 to 9/11, yet after 9/11 Jews were dancing in the street. They paid for months of prime time commercials parading around women in hijab saying, "I'm an American."

If you're not a Jew or a Muslim, fuck 'em both. If your only contribution to the conflict is negrating people that shit on Israel, I would implore you to pick up a rifle and go be a martyr for your righteous cause.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

2 combatants killed by paratroopers on roof:

Spoiler: NSFW

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Literally a "pick up the first man's rifle" moment caught on film

 

[The Deep State]

If your only contribution to the conflict is negrating people that shit on Israel, I would implore you to pick up a rifle and go be a martyr for your righteous cause.

"If you're giving me negrates, I hope you die! "

 

[ForTheHoard]

A helicopter carrying the president and foreign minister of Iran just crashed. Both are presumed dead.

"If you're giving me negrates, I hope you die! "

Interpreted like a true Jew. I believe anyone that calls for war should be willing to fight in it. Otherwise you're a coward and a war hawk.

 

[The Deep State]

Interpreted like a true Jew. I believe anyone that calls for war should be willing to fight in it. Otherwise you're a coward and a war hawk

Do you think Hamas should surrender and release the hostages, or continue fighting?

 

[ForTheHoard]

Do you think Hamas should surrender and release the hostages, or continue fighting?

I don't give a fuck what Hamas does as long as they stay off my grass.

I also doubt Hamas, the hostages, or Israel give a fuck about my opinion anyways. I didn't grow up with social media validation so I don't have a constant need to inject myself and take an emotional stake in something on the opposite side of the planet that doesn't concern me.

 

[potato in mah painus]

Anyone that tells them to pump the brakes is antisemitic, and our legislature is tripping over themselves to make it a crime.

Why do you think so many of us /Pol veterans have been saying America is a Zionist Occupied State (ZOG)? You are watching that power and corruption getting flexed openly now, the very thing 10 years ago was called a white supremacist and Alex tier conspiracy.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Hamas footage of former 7 and 15 year old hostages released by IDF:
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God.. Just the look on their faces.. The things they have been through.. (especially the older more mature one... but this IS islam we are talking about so likely both!) I mean these types of images are meant as propaganda.. This is them trying to make them look good/not suffering... Imagine how bad things really are!

Only pussies and faggots hide behind woman and children.. especially both.

 

[Curious]

It's Joever for Bibicels.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/icc-prosecutor-calls-for-arrest-warrants-for-netanyahu-gallant-and-3-hamas-leaders/

 

[World in Scarlet]

A helicopter carrying the president and foreign minister of Iran just crashed. Both are presumed dead.

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Is it based to try to save the "Butcher of Tehran" so he can go on facilitating the killing and torture of Iranians, or cucked to accede to a request for help by sworn enemies?

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

It's Joever for Bibicels.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/icc-prosecutor-calls-for-arrest-warrants-for-netanyahu-gallant-and-3-hamas-leaders/

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Lol, fucking British Paki chasing after Jews. No conflict of interest there. You might as well have a Dem judge trying to prosecute a non RINO.

And of course the Palestinian arrest warrant are just for show. The arguement against Israel are basically feelings over facts. Like what do they expect, that Israel will shoot down protestors blocking the road?

 

[MugolEx]

It's honestly quite wild to read the earlier posts on this thread during the immediate aftermath of the Oct. 7th attack and contrast that to some of the reactions more recently. People have very short attention spans. I suspect quite a few of those protesting and many of the activist types have tunnel vision on this issue, or have TikTok brains that can't recall anything from more than a week ago. You get the same nonsense every time Oct. 7th is raised: "actually, it was an IDF helicopter that killed the Nova festival attendees..." or some other misdirection with zero evidence.

Many pro Palestinian outrage seem to be based on 30 second clips of Israelis strikes or gunfights with zero context. Specifically that video where those two men in a combat zone are hit by a missile. With no context as to where they came from or how they were identified as a target. Contrast that to all of the GoPro footage of Hamas shooting unarmed civilians, going house to house shooting people, beheading that Thai worker with a garden hoe and throwing grenades at children — coupled with the kidnapping which are explicitly a war crime on their own.

Give it enough time and they will always find their excuse. Despite numerous videos showing Hamas committing atrocities, these activists will eventually find a few examples to exaggerate (or out right lie about because who is really going to check) and of coarse the initial shock of these events eventually ware off. People in general just seem to forget and the activists are well aware of that fact and will take advantage of it. And lets not forget the news media. They like to take the "know your audience" opinionated approach rather then an objective stance on conflict. The moment it was made clear which side the activists were on, they started to curate to their beliefs like always. Pushing the mantras of their own audience citing that they are just reporting on what people are saying on social media rather then doing any actual journalism verifying if these claims are true, further deteriorating the view people have on the war.

They always had it in their minds from day one that Hamas are infallible purely based on the fact that brown Muslims sit on top of the oppression totem over taking the 6 gorillian. You could show these people Hamas beheading and raping children and they will make the claim that the Palestinians were driven to this point just like with what happened during the Gorge Floyd riots. They were given a pass to chimp out to burn, loot, and murder for nearly a year all over some loser who was more of a burden to his own "community" then the police ever were, dying while in custody due to a fentanyl overdose. It's about were they're supposed to sit on the oppression pole and they will always give the "oppressed" the pass to do atrocious things to the lesser "oppressed." It's the same justification they gave for the "economic factors" in the US. It's never their own actions that cause them problems, it's the society that drives them to become violent and it's always somehow not their fault.

This makes it sound like I'm some sort of Israel suck up, I'm not. But the "Jews bad Muslims good" narrative is so pervasive I find myself having to explain a lot that Hamas aren't exactly what I call sympathetic. And having such a hard stance while play pretending to have solidarity with a group off people on the other side the globe on war that doesn't affect you directly to the point of shutting down bridges and highways is a bit retarded. Sending trillions of dollars to Israel might be the only thing that would impact you directly, but they're not loitering out side of college campus for that reason lets be real.

 

[DumbDude43]

It's Joever for Bibicels.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/icc-prosecutor-calls-for-arrest-warrants-for-netanyahu-gallant-and-3-hamas-leaders/

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this shit basically means that any country that recognises the icc can no longer accept visits from the head of government of israel (because they'd have to arrest him)
they already did something similar with putin a while ago, shit's fucking retarded. i wish countries would wise up and withdraw from the court over this bullshit, cause it's a pretty big interference in international diplomacy.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

My opinion is that Hamas started a war and is now screaming when Israel finishes it. That being said, I don’t like the way the US government has been falling over themselves to trample the first amendment for da joos and send billions of my tax dollars to both sides for “aid”. Just because 2 countries are fighting doesn’t mean we need to get involved.

 

[World in Scarlet]

I don't know about some of the items, but generally it seems pretty reasonable to me. Is there something factually wrong about the core of the charges?

Israel, like all States, has a right to take action to defend its population. That right, however, does not absolve Israel or any State of its obligation to comply with international humanitarian law. Notwithstanding any military goals they may have, the means Israel chose to achieve them in Gaza – namely, intentionally causing death, starvation, great suffering, and serious injury to body or health of the civilian population – are criminal.

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Here's the part about the Hamas leaders.

 

[Mysterious Girlfriend X]

It's Joever for Bibicels.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/icc-prosecutor-calls-for-arrest-warrants-for-netanyahu-gallant-and-3-hamas-leaders/

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What a Goofus.

 

[DumbDude43]

@World in Scarlet

"the means Israel chose to achieve them in Gaza – namely, intentionally causing death, starvation, great suffering, and serious injury to body or health of the civilian population – are criminal."
by those standards every war ever waged by any country would be criminal

like, show me a single land war that did not involve death, starvation, great suffering, and serious injury to the civilian population? you can't, because it's impossible.

plus i'm 99% certain that all the various laws of war contain exceptions that state that a civilian target is considered a valid military target if opposing forces are using it in their operations. in the case of gaza, where hamas militants are holed up in almost every single building, that means you'll have a very hard time convincing anyone of this 'muh war crimes' narrative unless they're already a muslim ballwasher in the first place.

 

[Marzipan Apple]

I don't know about some of the items, but generally it seems pretty reasonable to me. Is there something factually wrong about the core of the charges?

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Here's the part about the Hamas leaders.
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This shit's so fucking gay, one of the dumbest virtue signals I've ever seen. This will obviously have no effect on anything, and neither side will give a rat's ass about the ICC's "ruling." It's just a bunch of impotent window-lickers wagging their fingers at both sides of a devastating war that's been brewing for years.