Paper Mario Series

[WTBOnlineFather]

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you might've gotten confused with the one on Steam, hombre

Oh nice, I heard there was some copyright drama regarding Dolphin a while back and thought it got completely shut down. Good to know, thanks

 

[Colon capital V]

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Welp, that's $60 saved. Treehouse,
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PAPERTRANNIES LOST FUCKING HARD, GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
MARIOLUIGIGODS STAY WINNING!

 

[SmallKiwi]

the dialogue implies Vivian was gaslit by Beldam for years into thinking she was a boy and coming to terms with that;

Honestly, that will be my headcannon for this remake.

 

[AltisticRight]

Oh, quickest purchasing decision ever. Guess which game I won't buy.

I can care less about newly added gender-confused characters like in Hogwarts Legacy.
I can tolerate silly cross-dressing missions like in Breath of the Wild.
I'm not going to tolerate an existing established character changed for some faggy troon pandering brownie points.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Crossposting, but TV Tropes are celebrating the news about Vivian, and mocking the naysayers.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Crossposting, but TV Tropes are celebrating the news about Vivian, and mocking the naysayers.

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Fuck you you fucking faggots. Luckily, the pain you give others is redoubled by your axe wounds.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

If you're a slave to the nintendo and you have to play this shit, at least have the dignity to borrow it from the library.

Anyway Dolphin probably emulates the original better than the Switch plays this.

 

[Dynamite Bean]

Culture wars are gay but I really do hope the usual suspects talk about this and get it big
a lot of other series are whatever but Mario is nintendo's golden child and a cultural icon and i'd be really curious to see how Nintendo would react to their game series that is their core image being crossed into this shit

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Fucking Beldams here.
We need a neutral Kiwi Farms. I get that making fun of trans folk is easy comedy, but you literally prove the point. Vivian is bullied by her sisters just because she is trans and has to overcome their bullying.
Plus, again, 2004 called. Original English version is the only version that has Vivian be a biological female.

Besides, imagine not liking your favourite video game because of one side character's plot integral gender identity.


Frankly, same with all the Ubisoft shit. There are leagues more reasons to despise them than including arguably one of the more interesting historical figures.
Plus if you want some additional treat, Leonardo Da Vinci is gay in AC 2 and Brotherhood.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Culture wars are gay but I really do hope the usual suspects talk about this and get it big
a lot of other series are whatever but Mario is nintendo's golden child and a cultural icon and i'd be really curious to see how Nintendo would react to their game series that is their core image being crossed into this shit

Treehouse: "N-n-no, Miyamoto-san, don't listen to those heckin' transphobes! Look at the sales, people love this!"

Miyamoto: "OK, carry on, gaijin".

This is what will happen.

 

[Sugriva]

I'm more mad about the 30fps than I am about the shitty script changes.

 

[SmallKiwi]

At least have the dignity to borrow it from the library.

Man, what libraries do you got to? I've never seen libraries lend video games.

 

[FatMebius]

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Americans are big into just making every trap and crossdresser into a tranny or whatnot. Mostly since male femininity is perceived very differently in Japan and it makes Americans meltdown.

"Male daughter" culture is a thing there. AKA dudes who just wanna wear a skirt and be pretty, but are still straight and still identify as males. Americans can't handle that. "Noooo. You can't just wear the skirt. You have to have deep-seated gender issues and want to mutilate your body with lab-grown hormones and Frankenstein surgery". Not to say there aren't girly homos in Japan. Since there are. But a lotta Nip twitter traps always have "Not gay. Don't message me if you're a man" or something along those lines in their bio.

But any sort of thinking beyond "girly man is trans" would require some level of understanding of a non-American culture. And no matter how "progressive" this crowd is, that's something they can't handle. Especially in regards to those homophobic, slant-eyed yellow devils who need an educated, suburban white woman to correct their awful products.

 

[Dynamite Bean]

Treehouse: "N-n-no, Miyamoto-san, don't listen to those heckin' transphobes! Look at the sales, people love this!"

Miyamoto: "OK, carry on, gaijin".

This is what will happen.

You're probably correct but a small part of me hopes the japs have their weird moment and silently change it if enough shit happens in an update later down the line

Fucking Beldams here.
We need a neutral Kiwi Farms. I get that making fun of trans folk is easy comedy, but you literally prove the point. Vivian is bullied by her sisters just because she is trans and has to overcome their bullying.
Plus, again, 2004 called. Original English version is the only version that has Vivian be a biological female.

The problem is vivian was never a tranny to begin with, she was just a crossdresser who went by female pronouns, in this their rewriting history to claim she's trans when that has never been the case

 

[TheCrackMonkey]

Male daughter" culture is a thing there. AKA dudes who just wanna wear a skirt and be pretty, but are still straight and still identify as males. Americans can't handle that. "Noooo. You can't just wear the skirt. You have to have deep-seated gender issues and want to mutilate your body with lab-grown hormones and Frankenstein surgery". Not to say there aren't girly homos in Japan. Since there are. But a lotta Nip twitter traps always have "Not gay. Don't message me if you're a man" or something along those lines in their bio.

And then they have the fucking balls to accuse their enemies of enforcing gender stereotypes.

 

[Dynamite Bean]

Besides, imagine not liking your favourite video game because of one side character's plot integral gender identity.

TTYD was never my favorite game and also you're a 2023 join date, you clearly have no idea how much fucking annoyance trannies have caused for the farms and josh himself, of fucking course people don't want that gender identity shit tied to their escapism from this nonsense

 

[NoReturn]

Blantant okama erasure, smdh

 

[TV's Adam West]

you know what? all this doom posting about the game makes me wanna play it. is it fine just to emulate the original game?

I beat it on steam deck and ran flawlessly

 

[Metaverse Knight]

Besides, imagine not liking your favourite video game because of one side character's plot integral gender identity.

Congrats, you annoyed me enough to longpost!

TTYD isn't one of my favorite games. So let's use an example from one that is.

Mother 3... and you don't see me throwing a conniption over the fact that the Magypsies exist. Know why?

One is the author's original intent, the other is a change introduced by localizers to a character who was a MAN and was always a MAN.

The Magypsies work great to dispel your "argument" as their gender is plot relevant, compared to Vivian who is just a side character in a Mario RPG. They are creatures who look like men in drag that have no gender.

Their gender is very important to the story as they were written that way on purpose, Itoi wrote them to contrast with the main characters, and to show the player not to judge a book by it's cover.


And again, you don't see me throwing a fit over them. Do you?

Why is it so important to your side that this change clearly introduced to Vivian's character for culture war reasons be taken as "how it always was" and is "plot important"

Original English version is the only version that has Vivian be a biological female.

This was a change in localization, true.
However, you're also wrong. So did the German version.


Now, pettiness aside... The fact this change was made also breaks your entire argument. Did the story lose anything because Vivian was a woman in the English and German versions? No.

This change wasn't made because it was important. It was made because of culture war reasons. It was made to satisfy troons on twitter.

This isn't authorial intent. Vivian was written as a man who was comfortable enough to dress like a girl and was placed in a group of women, women who constantly made fun of him for that fact. The original japanese script would have actually been more ballsy to keep nowadays, because it would have gone against the tranny idea that if you dress like a woman, you are a woman.

Vivian is bullied by her sisters just because she is trans and has to overcome their bullying.

No, Vivian was bullied because he is a man. It was to show how his sisters treated him poorly, compared to how he was treated when he joined Mario. It was to establish Beldam and the other one I'm forgetting the name of as villains, so that when the player fights them again after getting Vivian, it is satisfying to defeat them.

What is it with you troons and claiming "media literacy" and yet you can never fucking understand media, at all?

Plus if you want some additional treat, Leonardo Da Vinci is gay in AC 2 and Brotherhood.

Who fucking cares? This thread is about Paper Mario, not the gay character in Assassin's Creed. The current discourse you are trying to weigh in on is a change made by the localizers at Treehouse to fulfill a culture war agenda.

I brought up a different game, sure. But that was because you assumed everyone's favorite game was TTYD. You brought up a different game... Because a character is gay?
How does this matter to the topic at hand? Who was getting up in arms that a character in Assassin's Creed is gay?

It doesn't. TLDR: Eat Shit. Get Better Bait. Fuck off back to twitter.

 

['Ole Dente]

It's a gamecube game, you'll have to wait for quite a long time for that probably. It's easy to emulate on any decent modern system though. I hear the Dolphin emulator has been shut down for copyshit reasons but I'm sure there's an alternative, or you can grab the last version from before the C&D.

In the meantime, you can emulate PM: TTYD with HD textures loaded into the emu and receive very little difference in quality.