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[Internet Wizard]

/r/fuckcars blames their obesity on suburbs:
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Buying in bulk makes you fat:
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Today in opposite world:
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I wonder how healthy he thinks ramen and katsu are:
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Urbanists demonstrating their ability to have original thoughts:
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No, it's because you're a tourist. Europeans don't walk as much because they have things to do besides wandering around town:
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Having a pantry is bad. Living on top of a grocery store and restaurant is good:
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The thing that they never seem to realize is in the suburbs, walking to the store may burn a "significant" amount of calories (though not really as walking a mile only burns ~100 calories), but if they moved to a "walkable" neighborhood where the store is physically closer, the amount of energy burned will be a rounding error.

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I wouldn't call 57.7% of people "no one":
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There are some comments disagreeing with OP:
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There’s some evidence to back up the basic idea that suburbs discourage exercise, but it has far more to do with factors like physical distances to parks/gyms, not fucking boredom
OP deflects personal blame for his shit lifestyle on the environment, if he grew up in Amsterdam or some other “walkable” city he’d still probably be a fatass if he was stuck inside playing video games and eating shit all day. Everyone in the suburbs isn’t a fatass and everyone in cities isn’t lean, black-or-white thinking seems to be an urbanist’s best friend

 

[quaawaa]

Vast numbers of Americas actually do prefer McDonalds to a restaurant burger. You can argue about why that's the case and should it be the case, but it IS the case.

A McDonald's burger is better than most hipster burger places which serve smashburgers with random mismatched toppings.

Smashburgers are the worst type of burger. It makes sense why fast food places make them because they're cheap and easy to cook at scale, but if you're charging $15-$20 for a burger it better be an actually patty cooked to a proper temperature, not a paper-thin well-done meat slice.

OP deflects personal blame for his shit lifestyle on the environment, if he grew up in Amsterdam or some other “walkable” city he’d still probably be a fatass if he was stuck inside playing video games and eating shit all day.

That's why I shared the statistics that show that 58% of New Yorkers are fat despite living in one the densest cities in the first world.

 

[LaxerBRO]

The funny part is half the replies are talking about restaurants. You'd think they never shop or cook for themselves.

Don't socialists or communists have a disproportionate representation on r/fuckcars?

This is something I find funny because in a socialist system, I doubt many would have many options for a third place or newer restaurants.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

They're falling to the dark side:
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This dude's username is so

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fitting

 

[Bonesjones]

No, because the meme was never true to begin with. Restaurants can have really good food, and really bad food, and where they end up is usually happenstance. Urbanists like to flex that the "best food" comes from the ratholes anyway (convenience stores, taco trucks, the ghetto), so it should be obvious that the "best food" could come from the strip malls of suburbia, too.

The reason most small hole in the wall places have better food is that they don't turnover their cooking staff constantly. The reasons good restaurants turn shitty is they won't give their staff raises so they leave. Passion for the job and how good foot taste is a 1 to 1 corelation.

Vast numbers of Americas actually do prefer McDonalds to a restaurant burger. You can argue about why that's the case and should it be the case, but it IS the case.

Its not that fast food is better, it's that the price to effort to taste ratio works out for fast food most of the time. If you are busy running errands and don't want to spend an hour and 50 bucks to get food, fast food can be eaten on the move for half the price.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The reasons good restaurants turn shitty is they won't give their staff raises so they leave. Passion for the job and how good foot taste is a 1 to 1 correlation.

It's totally true - even at chains (besides the microwave options you find there). The best pancake breakfast I ever did have was at a Denny's in the middle of nowhere, probably because oil funds were sloshing around and the cook was probably making $40k a year.

Fast food is often better than restaurant, because they have spent years making it possible for absolute literal morons to prepare it. So they've already trained for moron employees, and restaurants after Covid are just learning how to deal with it. Some have quality that has just gone into the shitter, others are doing fine or even better.

 

[Baraka Obama]

I don't get bragging about restaurants, learn to fucking cook.

You know what's nice about a big suburb house? Almost all of them have great kitchens. And you're closer to farmland to get food direct from the source.

Why would I want to spend $30 a plate for food that's worse than what I can make myself with terrible table service, plus 18% tip minimum now, plus taxes?

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I don't get bragging about restaurants, learn to fucking cook.

You know what's nice about a big suburb house? Almost all of them have great kitchens. And you're closer to farmland to get food direct from the source.

Why would I want to spend $30 a plate for food that's worse than what I can make myself with terrible table service, plus 18% tip minimum now, plus taxes?

They'd say "entertainment/being with people" but that ignores that the vast majority of actual suburban houses have kitchens that are used by families to cook, feed, and entertain guests.

They really do think the suburbs are filled with empty houses with one or two people living in them, who never cook or eat at home. Such people do exist, but it's pretty rare, and they usually do not have kids.

But everyone who lives in the suburbs knows the difference between "family houses" and "rich wine wife houses" where you might find the instruction manual still taped inside the ten year old oven.

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars user shares an article that says that Texan drivers pay 83% of TxDOT's budget:

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"Federal Funds" are from the Highway Trust Fund, which is funded by the federal gas tax. Contrary to what urbanists say, it is solvent excluding transfers to fund public transit.

"State Highway Fund" is funded by vehicle registration fees and the gas tax.

"Proposition 1" is a tax on oil and gas refining, not a "rainy day fund" (sounds like a user fee to me...).

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Only "Proposition 7" is not a direct tax on drivers as it is a sales tax, but since 94.7% of Texans own cars and 99.9% of Texans who pay any significant amount of sales tax, drivers are still paying. Prop 7 also includes an excise tax on motor vehicle sales and rentals.

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83% is still a far higher percentage of costs paid for by the users than any transit system in the US.

One thing that the heavily biased article does not mention is that a quarter of Texas' gas tax revenue is diverted to the schools:

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Remove the school diversion and the sales tax isn't necessary.

Also, a lot of Texan highways are toll roads that are entirely paid for with tolls.

It's pretty funny that OP posted an article that shows that drivers pay their fair share without realizing it.

Now for the comments, starting off with someone who didn't read the article:







Texas already has toll roads that take zero tax money:


What percentage of federal taxes do Texans pay:



Hoops like showing ID?

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[Marvin]

I'm sure this person would lose their mind if they spoke to an advocate for school vouchers.

 

[Yamamura]

I think it should be clear to everyone that there is only one group in the world that is capable of building a California HSR, the Chinese. A blank check, no quality control, and a chance to flex on Americans in their home turf would see that HSR get finished in no time.

This feels like the set up to the Monorail episode of the Simpsons.

Buying in bulk makes you fat:

They seriously don't understand that you don't have to eat all of it at once like some sort of human goldfish.

Don't socialists or communists have a disproportionate representation on r/fuckcars?

Yes, though I don't find it particularly surprising the same people who expect the state to fully take care of them would be into this sort of thing.

That middle paragraph gives me a headache. Do these people seriously buy enough for just one or two plates?

What if they want seconds? Gym Of Life™ to the local bodega to buy one or two potatoes and 200 grams of whatever meat they're having?

They're either lying or they only prepare food once per week as a novelty but only eat take out the rest of the time. Taking a daily trip to the store is a waste of time even if it is a block away.

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

Public transport ain't too bad... unless, like me, every now and then, you have to put up with lazy roadworkers who take the piss, because their lazy contractors also take the piss, witter-witter-witter...

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

One thing I could actually get behind is the gas tax being tied to inflation or just be a percentage. Can you imagine if we had twice the amount of money to spend on roads? The highways around here would be fifty lanes wide!

 

[Xarpho's Return]

83% is still a far higher percentage of costs paid for by the users than any transit system in the US.

No kidding. If actual riders paid 80% of the cost, a simple trip would be at least $50.

That said, if they REALLY wanted to help transit ticket prices, they'd drop the subsidies, poorfags BTFO.

 

[Baraka Obama]

No kidding. If actual riders paid 80% of the cost, a simple trip would be at least $50.

That said, if they REALLY wanted to help transit ticket prices, they'd drop the subsidies, poorfags BTFO.

A lot of places it'd be cheaper to just pay for poor people's taxi fares.

 

[DavidS877]

No kidding. If actual riders paid 80% of the cost, a simple trip would be at least $50.

That said, if they REALLY wanted to help transit ticket prices, they'd drop the subsidies, poorfags BTFO.

Here's Trimet's(Portland Oregon's stabby transit) numbers:

About 91% of funding for FY25 operating resources comes from three sources: payroll tax revenues, passenger revenues and federal funds. For FY25, TriMet expects to receive about $540 million in payroll taxes; $62 million in passenger fares; and about $139 million from federal operating grants.

Current price is $2.80 per ride.
Current budget would be $815 million total.
So 80% means $62 million becomes $652 million.
So, $29.40 per ride.

This seems fair to me.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Here's Trimet's(Portland Oregon's stabby transit) numbers:

Current price is $2.80 per ride.
Current budget would be $815 million total.
So 80% means $62 million becomes $652 million.
So, $29.40 per ride.

This seems fair to me.

How the fuck can it be so bad? Oh god don't go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farebox_recovery_ratio#United_States and sort by ratio holy shit. Portland's at 18% and there are tons worse. If transit was required to be 100% farebox in the USA, nobody bar nobody would ride it. that's quite bad.

Props to Amtrak being at 95%, the little bastards. Lol at Japan milking the riders for 245% recovery ahaha eat it nips.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Thanks Vaush, why yes I will buy the MmmmbigTruck.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Thanks Vaush, why yes I will buy the MmmmbigTruck.

Why should I listen to a faggot who's into lolicon horsecock porn?

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Why would I want to spend $30 a plate for food that's worse than what I can make myself with terrible table service, plus 18% tip minimum now, plus taxes?

$30 is REALLY expensive for crap food. Even at Current Year prices, I can go to a Brazilian steakhouse in town and engorge myself in the salad bar with candied bacon, ceviche, bread, fruit, and vegetables for that price (way, way better than any buffet). But I'm not going to spend a huge percentage of my paycheck towards food, and the whole process of just going out is so cumbersome. That's why people order food delivery to begin with.