Red Letter Media

[Doctor of Autism]

The entire, first 30 min.

Is there a time frame, I saw the first 5 minutes and he is agreeing with the sentiment that the Phantom Menace wasn't that great and just used RLM among other examples of people hating on the Prequel.

 

[Idiotron]

Mike and Jay think Indie movies are good...clearly they haven't seen Civil War

Ah yes, the indie movie with a $50 million budget that opened in 3838 theaters in North America.
What an indie movie that was, I tell ya.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Ah yes, the indie movie with a $50 million budget that opened in 3838 theaters in North America.
What an indie movie that was, I tell ya.

It technically is an indie movie but in the loosest definition. Releasing something as "indie" can mean ultra low budget but it can also mean something not released by major studios. Game devs took note and hide behind the "indie" shield the same way.

Although, I hope A24 will survive because they put out some amazing shit. No other studio on planet Earth would have greenlit Beau is Afraid.

 

[Idiotron]

It technically is an indie movie but in the loosest definition. Releasing something as "indie" can mean ultra low budget but it can also mean something not released by major studios. Game devs took note and hide behind the "indie" shield the same way.

At this point, A24 is a major studio.
Their movies aren't indie anymore just like Lionsgate movies aren't indie.
Being smaller than Warner Bros doesn't mean you're indie.

 

[BrunoMattei]

At this point, A24 is a major studio.
Their movies aren't indie anymore just like Lionsgate movies aren't indie.
Being smaller than Warner Bros doesn't mean you're indie.

Civil War is their attempt at being a major. Will they stick the landing is the big question. So far, it's not looking good. Not unless they can bribe Arri Aster to make Hereditary 2.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Civil War is their attempt at being a major. Will they stick the landing is the big question. So far, it's not looking good. Not unless they can bribe Arri Aster to make Hereditary 2.

I can see how producers could make the mistake of making this movie was a good idea. They got a critically acclaimed director to make it who at least has a pretty good visual eye, it's modestly budgeted overall, and it's just one movie so they might have been able to course correct. They couldn't have known that Garland was being a hack who couldn't read the room when it came to his subject matter.

 

[Pokemon Conquistador]

I see that narrative, I get the gut impulse behind it but the sequels are so much worse. I fail to see how one could argue they're a response of how to make Star Wars based on Plinket's critiques of the prequels. On the face of that claim it'd suggest thought was put into the story of the sequels. As opposed to, "remake A New Hope but with a chick that's also a sequel." While putting no thought to what actually would be a follow up story or what fans would want.

I doubt Disney took anything from the Plinkett reviews to make their movies. Their motus operandi seemed to be : Remake A New Hope but put a chick in it, turn the heroes of the OT into failures, put in that stupid "grey Jedi" shit that muddies the moral waters, "subvert expectations" in the second movie by shitting on every plot point that was introduced in the first movie, then in the third movie, throw in a bunch of fanservice like Palpatine returning to try to redeem our fuckup.

Kathleen Kennedy basically wanted a female-centric new trilogy that was deliberately engineered to piss off male fans. She got it, then Disney compounded the mistake by basing their new theme park stuff solely on the ST, which is as popular as space herpes.

 

[Armageddon]

I doubt Disney took anything from the Plinkett reviews to make their movies. Their motus operandi seemed to be : Remake A New Hope but put a chick in it, turn the heroes of the OT into failures, put in that stupid "grey Jedi" shit that muddies the moral waters, "subvert expectations" in the second movie by shitting on every plot point that was introduced in the first movie, then in the third movie, throw in a bunch of fanservice like Palpatine returning to try to redeem our fuckup.

Kathleen Kennedy basically wanted a female-centric new trilogy that was deliberately engineered to piss off male fans. She got it, then Disney compounded the mistake by basing their new theme park stuff solely on the ST, which is as popular as space herpes.

Disney got the idea to hire Jew Jew Abrams do direct TFA from one of the plinkett reviews. It was absolutely Mike's fault, and he knows it too that at the end of the day, his reviews contributed to the awful member berries direction TFA went, all to appease to manchildren like him who unironically think that "star wars is limited in scope" so we just have to rehash everything from the originals.

All he can do now is keep seething about the prequels being liked by star wars fans who grow up with them now due to nostalgia and them actually making box office money on re-release.

 

[King Dead]

Disney got the idea to hire Jew Jew Abrams do direct TFA from one of the plinkett reviews. It was absolutely Mike's fault, and he knows it too that at the end of the day, his reviews contributed to the awful member berries direction TFA went, all to appease to manchildren like him who unironically think that "star wars is limited in scope" so we just have to rehash everything from the originals.

All he can do now is keep seething about the prequels being liked by star wars fans who grow up with them now due to nostalgia and them actually making box office money on re-release.

Yes, I'm sure that a multibillion-dollar corporation got the idea to hire JJ from a video by a drunk guy from Milwaukee. A video, mind you, that was discussing his Star Trek movie, not Star Wars. It totally wasn't because JJ is a well-known sci-fi director and yes-man that will do whatever the higher-ups tell him to do, nope, it was that damn bastard from Milwaukee! They also definitely got the idea to rehash OT content because of the Plinkett reviews, and not because it was the easiest and laziest thing to do. This definitely makes sense.

I don't know how many times it needs to be said (they even repeated this in the latest video), but prequel hate existed long before the Plinkett reviews, and it's only mellowed in recent years now that there's something much worse to compare them to. I don't think Mike cares if people like them, the group as a whole seems to have more or less checked out of Star Wars by now, like how they didn't get around to saying anything about Andor until a year after it aired. Really, the section at the end says more about what they're looking for: something different, something engaging, not the same old focus tested corporate dreck that makes up basically every blockbuster, which, in addition to Star Wars, is why they don't really review capeshit anymore. Like Jay said, there's only so many ways you can say "it's fine."

(And as to your last point about the box office, it made about $20 million globally. Pretty decent for a rerelease of a 25-year-old film, but compared to the $100 million+ of the 2012 3D release, back when prequel hate was pretty much at its peak, it doesn't look as good.)

 

[Idiotron]

They couldn't have known that Garland was being a hack who couldn't read the room when it came to his subject matter.

The moment I knew this movie woould be shit is when I saw in 1 of the ads that California and Texas joined forces.
Nigga, what?
In what universe?

Yes, I'm sure that a multibillion-dollar corporation got the idea to hire JJ from a video by a drunk guy from Milwaukee.

You probably don't remember when multiple Hollywood celebs were sharing the Plinkett videos on early Twitter and Facebook back in the late 2000's.
Half the people in Hollywood know who RLM is, maybe the people under 30 don't but the older ones do.

 

[thefreshmaker]

Disney got the idea to hire Jew Jew Abrams do direct TFA from one of the plinkett reviews.

Disney hired JJ Abrams because Kathleen Kennedy was in control of production, and Kathleen took a hint from long-time co-creator Steven Spielberg to hire the Steven Spielberg wannabe.

I don't doubt that Mike's suggestion may have at one point brought someone to suggest or mention JJ, but Spielberg has been in love with JJ for quite some time. It was a natural pick.

It was absolutely Mike's fault, and he knows it too that at the end of the day, his reviews contributed to the awful member berries direction TFA went

It was going to be that way anyway, and rightly so. Whether we like it or not, TFA was successful, the only one both commercially and popularly successful of the new trilogy. It was gang busters.

I highly doubt Jon Favreau would have made some alt-experimental new idea that really pushed the boundaries of what a Star Wars film could be.

 

[Biker]

i found rich evans evil twin:

 

[TVB]

Lionsgate movies

I only remembered Lionsgate for being a decent horror movie studio during the mid-to-late-2000s

 

[McMitch]

i found rich evans evil twin:
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>Barely 5’02”
He’s Rich Evans if Jay Bauman was Rich Evans.

 

[TVB]

i found rich evans evil twin:
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It's the OC donut steal in the RLM universe where Rich's evil twin teleports behind him, has a gun, and likes all of Star Wars

 

[Smashing Young Man]

Roger Ebert himself publicly sang the praises of the Plinkett Star Wars reviews, so it isn't a stretch to think the powers-that-be at Disney were well aware of them. Those reviews took on a life of their own, and achieved cultural relevance beyond Mike and RLM.

 

[Flexo]

Roger Ebert himself publicly sang the praises of the Plinkett Star Wars reviews, so it isn't a stretch to think the powers-that-be at Disney were well aware of them. Those reviews took on a life of their own, and achieved cultural relevance beyond Mike and RLM.

But a large part of that is not because the guys were saying anything new, but giving voice to the thoughts and emotions a lot of people were already experiencing even if they didn't have the words for it at the moment.

Let's not forget who called out the prequels before Plinkett.

 

[Idiotron]

i found rich evans evil twin:
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OK, real talk.
Who is sending this to Mike?

I only remembered Lionsgate for being a decent horror movie studio during the mid-to-late-2000s

Their first thing of note was American Psycho.
Later, the company was turned into a real studio thanks to the money from the Saw movies.
They got really big with Hunger Games and now, they have John Wick.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Their first thing of note was American Psycho.
Later, the company was turned into a real studio thanks to the money from the Saw movies.
They got really big with Hunger Games and now, they have John Wick.

Then they merged with Artisan after American Psycho. But yeah, like New Line Cinema was a house built by Freddy, Lionsgate is a house built by Jigsaw.

 

[Mola Ram]

But a large part of that is not because the guys were saying anything new, but giving voice to the thoughts and emotions a lot of people were already experiencing even if they didn't have the words for it at the moment.

What struck me about the Plinkett review was that it was the first really in-depth examination of why The Phantom Menace failed as a film, instead of just bitching about midichlorians and Jar Jar. This would mostly hold true for episodes II and III (the third one in particular is something I never saw the same way again after they pointed out how unbelievably dull the blocking in non-effects scenes was), but as the most anticipated of the three movies it was Phantom Menace that needed this treatment the most.