Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Club Sandwich]

I would guess skimping on the powder or maybe inconsistent loading? but I'm sure someone else here knows better and can illuminate us if we are incorrect. I noticed different stampings on the bottom of the cases of some rounds which I thought was a little odd.

while it's true that a cartridge with a lower than expected powder charge can FTE, usually it's the firearm that has an issue. since in your example, the issue follows the ammunition (presumably you've tested other ammunition in the same pistol and it worked fine) it could just be a quality issue for that specific batch - a handful of rounds or even an entire case out of however many millions of rounds of target ammo produced during a production run is a pretty low percent chance, but still very much possible.

you can always weigh cartridge, or if you have a bullet puller, weigh the powder charge and see if there's inconsistencies. 4.2-4.7gr of powder would get just over 1000 f/s for a 115gr bullet out of a typical 5" barrel. it strongly depends on the powder used (Alliant, Unique, Bullseye, IMR, et c).

if over the course of a couple hundred rounds you have greater than average malfunctions that seems to follow the ammunition between weapons (different magazines, different days, different action types, et c) then get in touch with Winchester (https://winchester.com/Support/Customers/Contact-Us) and express your concerns and findings.

in the short term, enjoy some free failure drills i guess.

Question about IR laser placement and bendyboi handguards. You see a lot of SOF running their lasers as far back on the handguard as possible to minimize POI shift from the rail flex when load is applied to the rail (bipods, barricaded shooting). The downside is increased splash back from the rail and potentially your thumb. But if one is only planning to shoot offhand, how big of a deal is flex? How much force can be induced with a normal shooting grip? Or is SIG such shit it can't even handle that?

my experience was that an IR illuminator should be mounted as far forward as reasonable on your weak side, IR aiming module either same and adjusted for offset or top rail and forward to accommodate larger PVS devices. if you needed a laser (on a SASS for example) and weren't going to mount a PVS-4 or something, then the laser on top and closer towards the receiver is optimal to better conform to barrel movement now that free float RAS are more popular and distant shots are affected by the different movements of the barrel and free float RAS shot to shot and in different positions. because a free float RAS and barrel share a pivot point (a position close to the receiver's barrel extension or at the barrel nut itself), but aren't attached to each other much anymore, they move and deflect at different rates. the older RAS had supported the barrel at the barrel nut and at the FSB and, while this could translate bipod deflection to the barrel, a mounted LAM towards the front was deflected very consistently with the barrel.

 

[WASR96]

I've always had issues with Winchester white box. Granted I did buy it all during COVID so I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it since I heard a lot of reports of lackluster QC/sketchy ammo from pretty much every manufacturer during that timeframe. I did a lot of testing with it. My G45, different mags, G43X, different mags, SP5 (tried all 3 mags and still had inconsistent FTE, but I only had 3 mags for it at the time cuz those shits are expensive), buddies Sigs, etc. What makes it worse is I was an idiot back then and dumped all that Winchester, Bellom (another 9mm brand that I constantly have issues with but bought a shit load of during COVID cuz no ammo anywhere) and my Federal 115 FMJ into the same ammo can I had just marked as "9mm FMJ." On the bright side, I got really good at clearing malfunctions quickly while I was going through that can.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

some guns just don't like some brands of ammo. My Beretta 92 hates speer gold dot. failures to extract, failures to feed etc. all the other brands i've used in it work fine.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Beretta 92

Beretta 92S and 92F have a different barrel ramp geometry (and magazine feedlip and follower geometry, but that's not important for this, as a 92S magazine will work fine in a 92F) where truncated round nose bullets tend to get stuck during feeding when off-axis from early release and nonstandard presentation, and failure to extract/eject from lack of negative angle for certain case rims (modern ones require a slightly negative angle rather than neutral).

this is sort of a thing with Speer that they supposedly resolved with the G2 line (i have opinions on that), and a lesser extent Aguila, and if you want similar HP performance without the hassle try HST, hornady critical duty/defense, or Golden Saber instead. LAPD had this issue throughout the 90's until they committed to using Glocks with GD G2 and their Berettas were retired. the duty ammo was 124gr HST from the early 2000's and before then, they were using Ranger-T or Golden Saber since that was equally available for .380, 9mm (Beretta 92F, S&W 5906), and the then-new .40 S&W.

 

[hog cranking frog]

Switched from winter gun to summer gun (p365) and now I'm considering getting an optic cut on the p365 and a new holster. I had a good kydex iwb holster made up for my winter gun with a neat hounds tooth pattern, anyone got a preferred holster maker? Know any that offer weird kydex patterns as options?

 

[ShamefurDispray]

Switched from winter gun to summer gun (p365) and now I'm considering getting an optic cut on the p365 and a new holster. I had a good kydex iwb holster made up for my winter gun with a neat hounds tooth pattern, anyone got a preferred holster maker? Know any that offer weird kydex patterns as options?

https://hiddenhybridholsters.com/products/sig-sauer-p365-single-clip-strong-side-appendix-iwb?_pos=4&_sid=983dcb364&_ss=r

I have been looking at this maker for a little bit for my glock, I've read good things but I don't have any hands on with one so if they are shit I'd be happy to hear about it before I buy one myself.
Edit: Apologies I copied the wrong link, I fixed it.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Beretta 92 and 92S have a different barrel ramp geometry (and magazine feedlip and follower geometry, but that's not important for this, as a 92S magazine will work fine in a 92F) where truncated round nose bullets tend to get stuck during feeding when off-axis from early release and nonstandard presentation, and failure to extract/eject from lack of negative angle for certain case rims (modern ones require a slightly negative angle rather than neutral).

this is sort of a thing with Speer that they supposedly resolved with the G2 line (i have opinions on that), and a lesser extent Aguila, and if you want similar HP performance without the hassle try HST, hornady critical duty/defense, or Golden Saber instead. LAPD had this issue throughout the 90's until they committed to using Glocks with GD G2 and their Berettas were retired. the duty ammo was 124gr HST from the early 2000's and before then, they were using Ranger-T or Golden Saber since that was equally available for .380, 9mm (Beretta 92F, S&W 5906), and the then-new .40 S&W.

this is nice info. I had a backlog of speer at the time i was using up. I don't carry 9mm so i don't stock defensive ammo in it unless i can get a deal. I shoot ball most of the time, though the 92S has the worst DA trigger of anything i've shot. puts the NY glock trigger to shame (not to mention the decocker deciding to break in half lmao).

The Issue did seem to lessen when i got my new manufacture Beretta 92 mags for the gun but it still happened often enough to be notable.

 

[Club Sandwich]

92S has the worst DA trigger of anything i've shot

change the hammer spring to a D spring (16lbs) from 92D or centurion D. it will vastly improve your DA experience.

the wilson combat one is excellent: part number WC-721CS-16

 

[The Dude]

Switched from winter gun to summer gun (p365) and now I'm considering getting an optic cut on the p365 and a new holster. I had a good kydex iwb holster made up for my winter gun with a neat hounds tooth pattern, anyone got a preferred holster maker? Know any that offer weird kydex patterns as options?

My favorite maker is Nightingale Leather. Kevin at Nightingale makes all kinds of holsters OWB, IWB, shoulder rigs, and even tactical thigh rigs. He doesn't do kydex. If you really want kydex you could check out Tucker Leather. Their Deep Carry line has a leather rear panel with a suede lined kydex front, and one of the Deep Carry holsters is convertible from OWB to IWB, and the other two in the line are a dedicated OWB and IWB design. I have the convertible model and really like it, though using it IWB style didn't really work out for me, so it is just set up for OWB which is how I normally carry in warm weather. If you're OK with Leather then Privateer Leather and Mernickle Custom Holsters are two more makers that I've owned and liked, but Nightingale is my all-time favorite maker.

 

[74164978231]

Seems like it's a pretty poor substitute for even a standard break-action single, and nevermind that seating & cocking the adapter could easily result with a mangled hand; but I guess it's better than nothing??

My thoughts exactly. This thing seems utterly pointless.

Single shot.
Extremely slow reload.
Renders your grenade launcher not a grenade launcher

Pretty dumb Russia hasnt already equiped every single soldier with a short barreled shotgun already.

 

[The Dude]

My thoughts exactly. This thing seems utterly pointless.

Single shot.
Extremely slow reload.
Renders your grenade launcher not a grenade launcher

Pretty dumb Russia hasnt already equiped every single soldier with a short barreled shotgun already.

Especially since shotguns are some of the few firearms civilians can legally own in the RF and the Ruskies have designed and manufactured some pretty nutty scatterguns, like that massive 4 gauge or that crazy 12ga pump that pumps forward like the Neostead. Then again, the Russians are also kinda famous of designing firearms that are at the same time half-assed and needlessly complicated.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

My sentiments exactly.....

He pretty much nails every single thing that made me want to pull my hair out during those programs; but I knew Sig was going to win anyways, being rigged from the start.

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

My sentiments exactly.....

He pretty much nails every single thing that made me want to pull my hair out during those programs; but I knew Sig was going to win anyways, being rigged from the start.

Ah hell I was about to post this.

I agree, I handled the XM7 and the XM250 and the XM7 is CHUBBY. It requires the suppressor and HOLY SHIIIIITTT the sight in $12,000 what the fuck!!!

Meanwhile an absolutely world class LPVO (S&B 1-8x Dual CC with the dual plane tech) is $4900 or so.

The XM7 program will get dumped soon enough as the round just ISN'T a viable 5.56mm or 7.62x51mm replacement

 

[Belgians in the Congo]

My Beretta 92

Uhhhh broski what happened to your safety

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Uhhhh broski what happened to your safety

it broke off. I replaced it with a wilson combat low profile cone which was the only one i could find that was compatible with the 92S.

 

[WASR96]

Ah hell I was about to post this.

I agree, I handled the XM7 and the XM250 and the XM7 is CHUBBY. It requires the suppressor and HOLY SHIIIIITTT the sight in $12,000 what the fuck!!!

Meanwhile an absolutely world class LPVO (S&B 1-8x Dual CC with the dual plane tech) is $4900 or so.

The XM7 program will get dumped soon enough as the round just ISN'T a viable 5.56mm or 7.62x51mm replacement

I could honestly see this whole thing quietly going the way of the XM8. At least with that program we had a dope ass magazine fed grenade launcher for awhile. If the NFA wasn't a thing I would definitely financially ruin myself to own an XM-25. Hell, even if someone made a gimmick version that just launched those 37mm flares, I'd be all over it.

 

[DocAwe]

Real 92 don't need no safety.

 

[The Dude]

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Real 92 don't need no safety.

I hate the D variant of the 92/96. Having that long, heavy ass trigger for every pull is miserable. My old man was issued a 96D Brigadier (.40 S&W with a heavier slide) when INS/ICE switched from the Smith and Wesson 686 to autos. Dad wished he could have kept the 686 instead because of how much he hated the trigger on the 96D, and I couldn't blame him. I don't mind the standard DA/SA variants of the 92, but the D sucks Ds. Eventually ICE switched from the Beretta to the H&K USP Compact, and then also started issuing Sigs. Dad was the last INS/ICE agent in his office to have the Beretta and retired before getting issued either the H&K or Sig.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Having that long, heavy ass trigger for every pull is miserable

the 96D had both an enhanced reliability (read: 22lb) hammer spring and an enhanced slide with "reliability" trigger return spring for the .40 S&W and heavy slide that made the "okay" DA pull into a terrible thing. agencies typically forbid modifying issued firearms.

the actual mechanics of the pistol don't care about the spring weight vs frame size or caliber with the exception of the recoil spring and the 93R's unique spring arrangement. a "D" spring (16lb or 18lb depending on preference - lower than 16lb get's picky with ammo) from a 92 F/FS, or 96G with matching trigger return spring would return the trigger into competitive range. additionally installing the normal 92FS hammer and trigger springs would work as well as the 96G, which i run pistol competition with sometimes. this is along the line of blaming Glock for the NYPD trigger. that's an NYPD problem, not Glock's.

it broke off. I replaced it with a wilson combat low profile cone which was the only one i could find that was compatible with the 92S.

the 92S and SB will accept the standard 92F/FS safety if you use the shorter S/SB decocking return spring and don't install the right hand lever. you will also get a dirt trap with the FS safety due to additional machining to accommodate the frame's slide safety lug. you can also just buy a 92S or SB safety directly from Numrich or something (https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/2093580)

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Also Sarco has a big lot of SIG police trade ins, but more interestingly literal crates of TLR-1 and TLR-1 HL weapon lights for under $100. all are "carry worn" and have no accessories but are fully functional. about half have new LEDs installed in the last 2 years too replacing the originals from the factory.