2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Article summary: This week, Israel released an appalling video featuring five female Israeli soldiers taken captive at Nahal Oz military base on October 7.
Hard disagree to that. Sabaya in this case implies sex slavery. I personally view the arguing over the word as unimportant given what we see in the video. But since it has been brought up, the Hamas supporters arguing over that word are just distracting from the fact that Hamas kidnapped, killed, raped, and tortured Israelis. All of that is a fact.
 
I'm not burying my head in the sand when Hamas kills and rapes Jews. I'm cheering them on, I support it completely.
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Seeing claims of Israel having beheaded a kid which I take it was from this latest bombing?

Israel is saying it was trying to strike where it knew Hamas was so I'm sorta assuming they had decided to embed themselves with the civilians taking shelter as they normally do. Mostly seeing people claiming Israel lied about its beheaded babies, but here look at this one kid the Palestinians have to wave around.

At least 35 killed in Israeli airstrike on displaced persons camp in Rafah, health ministry says, hours after Hamas fired rockets into Israel​


Palestinian health workers said Israeli airstrikes in the southern Gaza city of Rafah killed at least 35 people Sunday and hit tents for displaced people in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, with "numerous" others trapped in flaming debris. The reported airstrike came hours after Hamas claimed that it fired a barrage of rockets from Gaza toward central Israel as rocket sirens rang for the first time in months in cities like Tel Aviv.

Gaza's Ministry of Health said in a statement that 35 people had been killed and dozens injured, mostly women and children. In light of the attack, the statement said, "the Ministry of Health confirms that never before in history has such a large number of mass killing tools been amassed and employed together in front of the world as is happening now in Gaza," noting the severe shortages of water, food, medicine, electricity and fuel.

Eyewitnesses told CBS News' team in Gaza that eight airstrikes hit tents in western Rafah, though the reports could not be independently confirmed. The eyewitnesses said the casualties, which included civilians, were rushed to Emirati Hospital. The tents were part of a camp about 200 meters (about 650 feet) away from the largest United Nations warehouse in the Gaza Strip.

The Israel Defense Forces acknowledged the strike in a statement Sunday night.

"A short while ago, an IDF aircraft struck a Hamas compound in Rafah in which significant Hamas terrorists were operating," the IDF said. "The strike was carried out against legitimate targets under international law, using through the use of precise munitions and on the basis of precise intelligence that indicated Hamas' use of the area. The IDF is aware of reports indicating that as a result of the strike and fire that was ignited several civilians in the area were harmed. The incident is under review."

Footage from the scene showed heavy destruction, and a spokesperson with the Palestinian Red Crescent Society said the death toll was likely to increase as search and rescue efforts continued in Rafah's Tal al-Sultan neighborhood west of the city center.

The society asserted that the location had been designated by Israel as a "humanitarian area."

The strike comes two days after the International Court of Justice ordered Israel to end its military offensive in Rafah.

Israel's defense minister, Yoav Gallant, was in Rafah on Sunday and was briefed on the "deepening of operations" there, his office said.


The airstrike was reported hours after Hamas fired a barrage of rockets from Gaza that set off air raid sirens as far away as Tel Aviv for the first time in months in a show of resilience more than seven months into Israel's massive air, sea and ground offensive.

Hamas' military wing claimed the attack and rocket launches could be heard in central Gaza, AP reported.

In a statement on its Telegram channel on Sunday, al-Qassam Brigades said the rockets were launched in response to what it called "Zionist massacres against civilians," Reuters reported.

The Israel Defense Forces said its air defenses intercepted several projectiles after eight rockets were launched from Rafah in the Gaza Strip toward Israel.

The militants have fired projectiles at communities around Gaza during the war, but have not fired longer-range rockets in months.

There were no immediate reports of casualties or damage from what appeared to be the first long-range rocket attack from Gaza since January, the Associated Press reported.

The escalation came hours after aid trucks entered Gaza from southern Israel through a new agreement to bypass the Rafah crossing with Egypt. Israeli forces seized the southern city of Rafah earlier this month. It was unclear if humanitarian groups would be able to access the aid because of the ongoing fighting in the area.


Egypt refuses to reopen its side of the Rafah crossing until control of the Gaza side is handed back to Palestinians. It agreed to temporarily divert traffic through Israel's Kerem Shalom crossing, Gaza's main cargo terminal, after a call between U.S. President Joe Biden and Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi.

The war between Israel and Hamas, now in its eighth month, has killed nearly 36,000 Palestinians, according to local health officials. Around 80% of the population's 2.3 million people have fled their homes, severe hunger is widespread and U.N. officials say parts of the territory are experiencing famine.

Hamas triggered the war with its Oct. 7 attack into Israel, in which its militants killed some 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and seized some 250 hostages. Hamas is still holding some 100 hostages and the remains of around 30 others after most of the rest were released during a cease-fire last year.

On Saturday, CBS News reported that U.S. diplomatic efforts to broker a deal to release hostages held in Gaza by Hamas are expected to continue in the coming week. Negotiators from Qatar, Egypt and the United States will be part of the talks.

"There is progress," a senior Biden administration official told CBS News. "Contacts are ongoing and we are working closely with Egyptian and Qatari mediators. These contacts will continue through the coming week as we seek to move the negotiating process forward."
 
They are not brain dead, they are simply willing to omit any information and make any claim that supports the Palestinian side. This is also why all kibbutzim are referred to as "settlements" and all Israelis are considered "prisoners of war". All of Israel is seen as occupied Palestine and all Israelis and their non-Jewish allies are branded as occupiers. In my personal experience, Palestinians will go as far as to say that all Israeli cultural heritage is in fact Palestinian in origin. This goes from minor things like food to claiming that any home in Israel was forcefully expropriated from a Palestinian family. Despite the international community's calls for a ceasefire, this conflict will not cease until either all Palestinians or Israelis are displaced by the other side.
Which is ironic, because they are literally the fucking descendants of Arab invaders who came in, slaughtered, enslaved and forcefully converted the original inhabitants, then pretended it was theirs all along.

I have already seen pro palestians justfiing this by saying "they are members of the IDF!", "they are POW" or trying to be obtuse as fuck.
These are the same fuckers who think that teenage boys remarking about girls appearances promotes "rape culture"
 

The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed two top Hamas officials were killed in the deadly airstrike in western Rafah Sunday night.

The IDF said Hamas' Chief of Staff in the Judea and Samaria wing, Yassin Rabia, and an additional senior Hamas official, Khaled Nagar, were both killed.
IDF is claiming they got a few Hamas officials with the strike.
 
Which is why its so important to support Hamas. If you think things are bad now, wait until kikes continue throwing rocks at the hornets nest and force Europe to accept 2 million of the refugees.
I have yet to see anyone doing more than shout "BAD KIKE! DOWN BOY!".

Recent theatre from the ICC notwithstanding.
 
The IDF probably felt that the benefit of wasting 2 or more high level Hamas commanders vs. Civilian casualties was worth it.

That and the rocket attack on Tel Aviv from Raffa probably had something to do with it.
Does feel weird to me though that they don't just send in something like a SWAT team. It seems like they're using bombs on what's more like an elaborate gang.

They could try minimizing some of the casualties that way, but seem disinterested in treating it like an extreme police action which most outside observers sorta see it as.
 
Does feel weird to me though that they don't just send in something like a SWAT team. It seems like they're using bombs on what's more like an elaborate gang.

They could try minimizing some of the casualties that way, but seem disinterested in treating it like an extreme police action which most outside observers sorta see it as.
First, because that's insanely dangerous to your soldiers, and second, because it's obviously a war and not a police action. It would reduce casualties in Gaza at the expense of increasing casualties for Israel, and they aren't interested in that.
 
First, because that's insanely dangerous to your soldiers, and second, because it's obviously a war and not a police action. It would reduce casualties in Gaza at the expense of increasing casualties for Israel, and they aren't interested in that.
True it is dangerous to your soldiers, but we have often expected this of the US.

So we're sorta holding Israel to a dramatically lower standard than we'd ever hold the US (or even other countries like Ukraine). It's a pretty extreme way to treat a conflict against a vastly weaker power. Which is why it's weird you have people so comfortable about it when it's Israel behaving this way.
 
True it is dangerous to your soldiers, but we have often expected this of the US.

So we're sorta holding Israel to a dramatically lower standard than we'd ever hold the US (or even other countries like Ukraine). It's a pretty extreme way to treat a conflict against a vastly weaker power. Which is why it's weird you have people so comfortable about it when it's Israel behaving this way.
The US hasn't been in a situation of existential threat during our lifetimes. We hold them to police standards because they're acting as a police force, intervening in other countries' wars for everyone's presumptive good. And if they fumble the ball, the US itself goes on as basically the same. Plus the US doesn't always treat its soldiers as particularly valuable. Israel is conducting its war like its an actual war of survival, and wars aren't police actions.
 
True it is dangerous to your soldiers, but we have often expected this of the US.

So we're sorta holding Israel to a dramatically lower standard than we'd ever hold the US (or even other countries like Ukraine). It's a pretty extreme way to treat a conflict against a vastly weaker power. Which is why it's weird you have people so comfortable about it when it's Israel behaving this way.
The same US soldiers who killed a British hostage on a rescue mission when they cleared the room she was in with a fucking grenade? That was a special forces unit too.
 
It's a pretty extreme way to treat a conflict against a vastly weaker power. Which is why it's weird you have people so comfortable about it when it's Israel behaving this way.
This is like the 376th time I've seen this line of reasoning and it doesn't sound any less retarded. The terrorists are weaker than you, so please be gentle.

In fact, Israel has been so inhumane that they've been fighting this "vastly weaker power" for 7+ months now with 100+ hostages still in captivity (many of them probably dead by now), while also giving and letting in aid, dropping leaflets and desperately trying to convince goatfuckers to get to safety before the bombs drop. So precious are the lives of savages that clap and cheer every time Israeli corpses are paraded through the streets of Gaza.

"...bet you wouldnt say that about america tho..."
 
The US hasn't been in a situation of existential threat during our lifetimes. We hold them to police standards because they're acting as a police force, intervening in other countries' wars for everyone's presumptive good. And if they fumble the ball, the US itself goes on as basically the same. Plus the US doesn't always treat its soldiers as particularly valuable. Israel is conducting its war like its an actual war of survival, and wars aren't police actions.
The US has dealt with wars for decades where it was treated as a threat at home(less so in recent years). That was what got those wars going to begin with and likely resulted in more problems for US soldiers than if they went in with the attitude of fuck caring about casualties the way Israel has.
 
The US has dealt with wars for decades where it was treated as a threat at home(less so in recent years). That was what got those wars going to begin with and likely resulted in more problems for US soldiers than if they went in with the attitude of fuck caring about casualties the way Israel has.

To quote Bush. "We gotta fight the war over there, so we don't fight it over here" (when in reality, it was over oil).

With the Gulf War, our oil suppliers got hit and Saddam went to burn it.

In Afghanistan (originally), we went to get revenge for 9/11.

In Iraq? "Muh chemical weapons" (which was a lie).

The last time the Americans felt at threat as a whole (as in, survival as the americans) was during the Cuban Missile Crisis and we didn't enter a war for that. The last time we did for a WAR was in the war of 1812 as the British came in to try and take the US.

Also, realistically the US isn't tossing guys like they're candy. They give them air support which is always a case as we see in Iraq and Afghanistan where the USAF would provide CAS using F-111's, F-15's, and especially the A-10.
 
This is like the 376th time I've seen this line of reasoning and it doesn't sound any less retarded. The terrorists are weaker than you, so please be gentle.

In fact, Israel has been so inhumane that they've been fighting this "vastly weaker power" for 7+ months now with 100+ hostages still in captivity (many of them probably dead by now), while also giving and letting in aid, dropping leaflets and desperately trying to convince goatfuckers to get to safety before the bombs drop. So precious are the lives of savages that clap and cheer every time Israeli corpses are paraded through the streets of Gaza.

"...bet you wouldnt say that about america tho..."
These retards would have been all “haven’t the German people suffered enough?” when the Allies crossed the Rhein.

They’re retarded cowards who in a better time we would have hanged.
In Iraq? "Muh chemical weapons" (which was a lie).
I thought they only sold that lie outside the US but you yanks were pretty clear it was 100% about regime change to yourselves?

It was pretty dumb using a fictional casus belli but worth it just to watch lefties sperg.
 
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