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I'm legitimately not sure what this guy wants at this point.

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Chuck complains about affordable housing because... it's not affordable enough? He throws a bunch of numbers and graphs that have been compressed to the point that they're actually illegible trying to convince his readers of... something?

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His solution (beyond wanting to entirely up-end the established economic system) is to "take that unused fourth bedroom in the single-family home and turn it into an accessory apartment." So... AirBnB?

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I'm genuinely confused by the point of this one, maybe I just don't have the brain to comprehend all of this. I know Chuck's all buzzwords and no bite but still. I don't understand how people can continue to eat this up.

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He’s autistic and stupid be he’s almost to the point - the problem with housing is under supply making it inelastic which means the price surges along at “maximum anyone will pay”.

If we overbuilt for a few years suddenly there’s enough housing that the prices start cratering (which the government is assbolutely terrified of, because that IS the shit that would result in revolution).

The only real way out is to increase luxury supply but increase inflation a bit more so that existing houses go down in real dollars but still appreciate slightly in nominal dollars.

I've been following Marohn for a while and have some appreciation for what he says. He has an unfortunate tendency to surround himself with urbanist kooks, but his core ideas are not really "urbanist".

What seems to really motivate Marohn is a suspicion of big projects. It doesn't matter if the project is a new highway or a new affordable housing complex or a new water treatment plant. If it is big, he is suspicious of it. He wants there to be lots of little projects like mother-in-law apartments instead of crack stacks and small local businesses instead of malls.

That is different from most urbanists, who love big projects as long as the project is their big project.

Unfortunately, Marohn ends up getting into bed with urbanists because they are allies on opposing big highway projects or big housing developments. But they are only temporary allies on one particular thing. Marohn doesn't tend to advocate for the big things urbanists want.

This is not a perfect explanation of Marohn, but I think it explains a lot. Throw in that he is a well-socialized autist, he ends up being "friends" with people who are just using him. Jason Slaughter is a good example.

 

[New Fag]

I was thinking about Ork troop carriers myself.

Same here but only 2 Ks, wonder how many guns and death rollers a TruKKK has.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

What seems to really motivate Marohn is a suspicion of big projects. It doesn't matter if the project is a new highway or a new affordable housing complex or a new water treatment plant. If it is big, he is suspicious of it. He wants there to be lots of little projects like mother-in-law apartments instead of crack stacks and small local businesses instead of malls.

It sounds like he's a primary candidate for learning about subsidiarity - the concept that things should basically be done at the smallest possible level. So garbage collection should be done at a town level, armies at a nation-state level, that kind of thing.

When looking at that, roads and cars are pretty close - I buy the car, the town builds the local roads, the state builds the state highways and helps with the interstate freeways, etc. Mass Trannysit projects almost always are above local and by definition "Big Projects" compared to the individuals using it.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

What seems to really motivate Marohn is a suspicion of big projects. It doesn't matter if the project is a new highway or a new affordable housing complex or a new water treatment plant. If it is big, he is suspicious of it.

I'd agree for the most part, but...

 

[talk talk talk]

I'd agree for the most part, but...

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He views parking minimums--that is, parking mandated by law, not voluntarily provided by the developer--as something that makes projects bigger than they should be.

This is a good example of how he ends up temporarily allied with urbanist kooks who hate cars. He wants the amount of parking to be decided at the individual project level by the developer. The fuckcars urbanist kooks want to ban all parking. And, yes, he does get sloppy at times making that distinction and he should be better at distinguishing his position from theirs.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Parking minimums come about because developers are fucktards and people are idiots that don’t take things into account until it’s too late. It’s totally understandable why they exist. And why they shouldn’t need to.

A “cash to get out of minimums” would be interesting. Unit needs 100 parking spaces but you can buy that down to 75 with a payment for $D billion or whatever.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I'd agree for the most part, but...

Also I can't imagine there's a road diet plan that Marohn didn't like.

Parking minimums come about because developers are fucktards and people are idiots that don’t take things into account until it’s too late. It’s totally understandable why they exist. And why they shouldn’t need to.

A “cash to get out of minimums” would be interesting. Unit needs 100 parking spaces but you can buy that down to 75 with a payment for $D billion or whatever.

Pretty sure that's how it's already done. Anytime some developer manages to "waive the some of the minimum parking" it almost certainly means greased palms.

That being said, in cities that urbanists claim are "getting rid of parking minimums" it means that there isn't a law to dictate a certain number of "parking per x square foot" because some stores aren't expected to get the same volume as others. Floor & Decor and At Home, both chains around where I live, operate large stores but their profit margins aren't volume-based, so they don't need huge parking lots.

 

[quaawaa]

Parking minimums come about because developers are fucktards and people are idiots that don’t take things into account until it’s too late. It’s totally understandable why they exist. And why they shouldn’t need to.

A “cash to get out of minimums” would be interesting. Unit needs 100 parking spaces but you can buy that down to 75 with a payment for $D billion or whatever.

What happens without parking minimums is cheap developers save money by not building parking (and don’t pass the savings on to the tenants; see Culdesac for an example) and the new tenants don’t give up their cars and street park. This annoys existing residents who used to be able to park easily on their streets but now have to fight for space.

For a bunch of people who whine about externalities all the time and advocate for internalizing them by taxing everything, you’d think they’d recognize parking minimums as a way of internalizing the externalities caused by not providing sufficient parking.

That being said, in cities that urbanists claim are "getting rid of parking minimums" it means that there isn't a law to dictate a certain number of "parking per x square foot" because some stores aren't expected to get the same volume as others. Floor & Decor and At Home, both chains around where I live, operate large stores but their profit margins aren't volume-based, so they don't need huge parking lots.

Most parking minimums aren’t set around Black Friday or whatever urbanists claim. They were created by engineers who did actual studies looking at the real world patronage of various businesses. A lot of retail lots do frequently fill up. Some businesses like Walmart will build above the minimums because they never want to turn away a customer because of insufficient parking.

Back to housing, my city’s residential parking minimum for multifamily is one spot per bedroom, which is pretty close to the optimal number as number of bedrooms correlates pretty well with the number of adults which correlates almost perfectly with the number of cars. The “carbrained government” isn’t demanding enough space for everyone to have Jay Leno’s collection like urbanists would have you believe.

We also have far more new apartments constructed than cities that abolished parking minimums like Seattle and Portland, so if anything not requiring parking causes less housing to be built.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

What happens without parking minimums is cheap developers save money by not building parking (and don’t pass the savings on to the tenants; see Culdesac for an example) and the new tenants don’t give up their cars and street park. This annoys existing residents who used to be able to park easily on their streets but now have to fight for space.

Before Culdesac, the "you're PAYING EXTRA for the PARKING!" used to be an argument as to why apartments shouldn't have parking. However much truth that is, yes, some of your rent does go to maintaining your parking space, the mistake is thinking that the developer wouldn't pocket those savings and tell you to go fuck yourself.

 

[BulkForceFive]

This dood is advocating for you to live with less warm room than you get in an economy airline seat lol.

He might be right from a historical perspective (I don’t know) since living space was cramped in the distant past, but fuck that would be a shitty existence only having claim to enough personal space for a coffin.

Unless he's one of those purestrain autists with a Vulcan mindset, he probably cries about Japanese internment camps because 'they were crowded into tiny bunkhouses!!' And don't even get him started on those space-efficient slave ships!

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars finally discovered that trucks have cameras that give them amazing front visibility:






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More dumb car comparisons, this time with shilling for Chinese micro-EVs:

Tradesmen are overpaid because they can afford trucks:

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[Kyria the Great]

What morons fail to see that the Raptor is not aimed for the "average" truck buyer and is for the crazy bastard that wants a 500-700hp truck because its fun. It would be like forming your opinion that we need to drive shitbox EVs because a muscle car aimed at the upper middle market has 15mpg.

 

[quaawaa]

Just another cyclist showing respect for the rules of the road:

Traffic lights are only for cars:


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[WelperHelper99]

What morons fail to see that the Raptor is not aimed for the "average" truck buyer and is for the crazy bastard that wants a 500-700hp truck because its fun. It would be like forming your opinion that we need to drive shitbox EVs because a muscle car aimed at the upper middle market has 15mpg.

For reference a Raptor has more horsepower than a M4 Sherman. You know, this:

Literally more power than a tank.

 

[Kyria the Great]

For reference a Raptor has more horsepower than a M4 Sherman. You know, this:
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Literally more power than a tank.

Absolutely badass isn't it? Blowing the doors off of many other cars that are consider fast in a truck will never stop being hilarious to me and considering how trucks are made that bastard will go on for hundreds of thousands of miles given how insanely reliable they are.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

/r/fuckcars finally discovered that trucks have cameras that give them amazing front visibility

Wait until they discover that even modern minivans have alerts when anything (including exhaust from the car in front of you!) is close to the front, sides, or rear of the vehicle.

also in trying to find a size comparison of a truck to a bus I found whatever the hell this:



https://www.newstribune.com/news/2011/dec/12/driver-was-texting-deadly-missouri-truck-bus-pileu/ (a)

The carfuckers could do well (if they were at all intelligent) by emphasizing that on transit you can fuck around on your phone all day and save lives!

(This is a real difference between these slactivists and their slightly better youtube counterparts and actual people concerned about actual problems - even Josh got over being sad about his shit and started to think of little ways to work towards the goals he wants. These fuckers just masturbate over an imaginary world that will never come.)

 

[WelperHelper99]

Absolutely badass isn't it? Blowing the doors off of many other cars that are consider fast in a truck will never stop being hilarious to me and considering how trucks are made that bastard will go on for hundreds of thousands of miles given how insanely reliable they are.

The "Godzilla" engine Ford made for it has literally been put in boats. You know, the things that go through water? Every part of the Raptor is overbuilt. It's for if you have money. Making comparisons of a Raptor to a shitbox is unbalanced as fuck.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

Just another cyclist showing respect for the rules of the road:
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Traffic lights are only for cars:
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You know what? I'm not even mad. The faster they kill themselves with their immesurable stupidity the better. But I can't help but laugh at their extremely contrarian take on wearing helmets- do they really value their lives that little?
Meanwhile I'll sit in my big, comfy car with airbags installed all around me.

The jokes write themselves holy fuck lmao

 

[Apple Porcupine]

Traffic lights are only for cars:

Jason is responsible for the widespread adoption of this mindset after multiple videos of his bemoaning traffic lights and stop signs.

I can't find it now but there was one he posted on TikTok that got hit with a warning that it displayed "potentially dangerous acts". He bitched about how biased and carbrained TikTok was and then took it down when he found out that it was him posting it with the hashtag "#redlightrunners" that caused the label.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The jokes write themselves holy fuck lmao

holy fuck how done with the sign was he when that faggot noticed he spelled transit TRASIT

The store behind them is appropriate, too.

Jason is responsible for the widespread adoption of this mindset after multiple videos of his bemoaning traffic lights and stop signs.

It's standard motte and bailey bullshit - nobody gives a fuck if a bike rider runs a stop sign in a residential suburb when nobody at all is around; fuck people rarely give a fuck if a car does it.

But turning that into "bikes are not at fault if they get creamed by a semi because they ran a red light" is bullshit.