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This seems somewhat rash to me. Did he really give any detail on why he doesn't want kids? I believe something like can be changed. I feel like most people who say they don't want to have kids are usually either for petty reasons or something they didn't think much about beyond "uhh kids are gross and annoying" or "this will take up free time I don't believe i'd want to give up", especially when you're in your 20s and maybe haven't really been around kids or again, haven't given it much thought. Seems a shame to give up on a seemingly good relationship when you aren't absolutely sure he isn't willing to budge on this, I mean you can't force someone to want to have kids with you but just from what you said it seems like you didn't talk about it super deeply. I knew another friend who had a break up for similar reasons thought the roles were reversed.
I didn't give the whole conversation because the post was already very long, but we did talk about it for a while and then talked about it again when I was feeling less sick. He's the type of guy that will never be ready for kids unless he finds himself a girl that baby traps him and makes him have kids. He gave a lot of reasons for not wanting kids (the world is a scary place, kids are expensive, schools are gay, he's not good with kids, etc) which may all be true things, but I still want to have kids one day no matter what's going on in the world. I don't see the point in continuing the relationship, it becoming serious, and then I sit around and hope he eventually comes around.

I know there are guys out there that are 100% for having kids and will commit to it even if we're living in crazy and gay times.
 
He's the type of guy that will never be ready for kids
reasons for not wanting kids (the world is a scary place, kids are expensive, schools are gay, he's not good with kids, etc)
Fair enough then. A real shame. I can understand the points though, being a parent is tough and there isn't much point in trying for a kid if you personally don't feel you're up for the challenge. Better to not fuck up and have kids anyways like most parents.
 
Fair enough then. A real shame. I can understand the points though, being a parent is tough and there isn't much point in trying for a kid if you personally don't feel you're up for the challenge. Better to not fuck up and have kids anyways like most parents.
Yeah, I mean I'm not judging the guy, I have no ill feelings towards him. I understand why lots of people don't want to have kids these days, but I'm on the look out for a man who does.
 
Yeah, no. Someone that doesn't want kids in the near future with their current/potential bf/gf isn't just waiting for the "situation to get better", the situation gettting better is a stand-in for "when I'm too old and tired to continue living like a college student", simple as that. That's why you see mothers that have their first (and only) kid when they are nearing their 40s or why around 2/3 of the old skeptosphere is childless, they just want to continue their statu quo and feel young for as long as they can, and having kids would force them to move on with their lives


I'm capable of tolerating overly clingy and obsessive people with daddy issues, but US black culture is something you simply can't overcome
No one takes advice from anime avatars and Evangelion fans. Youtubers are not how real world relationships work.
He's the type of guy that will never be ready for kids unless he finds himself a girl that baby traps him and makes him have kids. He gave a lot of reasons for not wanting kids (the world is a scary place, kids are expensive, schools are gay, he's not good with kids, etc) which may all be true things, but I still want to have kids one day no matter what's going on in the world. I don't see the point in continuing the relationship, it becoming serious, and then I sit around and hope he eventually comes around.
How much of this is a cope Fool? These are what a lot of young men say but change when the right woman comes along. Why do you think he's got to be baby trapped to want to have a family? If you spent time around modern young men they all feel that way but end up having kids in their mid 20s once they've realized being 19 forever sucks and family is important.
 
No one takes advice from anime avatars and Evangelion fans. Youtubers are not how real world relationships work.

How much of this is a cope Fool? These are what a lot of young men say but change when the right woman comes along. Why do you think he's got to be baby trapped to want to have a family? If you spent time around modern young men they all feel that way but end up having kids in their mid 20s once they've realized being 19 forever sucks and family is important.
Okay, but why should I date a guy that might change his mind when I can instead go date a guy that already knows he wants kids? And this guy was already in his late 20s, so by your logic he should already be ready.
 
Okay, but why should I date a guy that might change his mind when I can instead go date a guy that already knows he wants kids? And this guy was already in his late 20s, so by your logic he should already be ready.
How many of those guys are going to laugh when you say nigger? You said you're struggling to find someone you are able to be yourself with and you risk your baby's father being a dead beat because you value semen over personality as you age out of your chance to have kids.

He might already be ready if he meets the right woman, which is what has been posted.
 
You said you're struggling to find someone you are able to be yourself with and you risk your baby's father being a dead beat because you value semen over personality as you age out of your chance to have kids.
I've seen these types of guys before, I currently have friends that are dealing with them too. You find a guy like this, you might get lucky and your guy will change your mind, you might also wind up unlucky like my friends, who now either have no kids despite dating for over 5 years, OR they do have kids but the dad is resentful since he never really wanted them in the first place. Not worth the gamble, especially when I know there are guys that are ready.
 
I've seen these types of guys before, I currently have friends that are dealing with them too. You find a guy like this, you might get lucky and your guy will change your mind, you might also wind up unlucky like my friends, who now either have no kids despite dating for over 5 years, OR they do have kids but the dad is resentful since he never really wanted them in the first place. Not worth the gamble, especially when I know there are guys that are ready.
It's your life no one can tell you what to do with it. Hope your cats like nigger jokes as much as you do.
 
No one takes advice from anime avatars and Evangelion fans. Youtubers are not how real world relationships work.
If I put on a pfp of Freud would that make me more credible or what? The joke of an anime pfp is they they are all down bad manchildren pedophiles, not that they exist. Also, what do youtubers have to do with anything here? I'm smart enough to not take relationship advice from someone that hasn't talked to a girl his age since high school, which most youtubers of this type are.

These are what a lot of young men say but change when the right woman comes along.
This is literally half the plot of Evangelion, and of Toji in particular.

How many of those guys are going to laugh when you say nigger?
Privately? All the non-west coast liberal types aka all of those worth marrying

You said you're struggling to find someone you are able to be yourself with and you risk your baby's father being a dead beat because you value semen over personality as you age out of your chance to have kids.

He might already be ready if he meets the right woman, which is what has been posted.
Our plans for the future are also invariably a part of ourselves. A guy who wants to become a rock musician in the future shouldn't be with a girl who viciously hates rock, because even uf those differences don't create frictions today, the will eventually.

If you spent time around modern young men they all feel that way but end up having kids in their mid 20s once they've realized being 19 forever sucks and family is important.
Yeah, and that's why the tfr is in the gutter, because all those mid 20s guys are breeding like rabbits.

It's your life no one can tell you what to do with it. Hope your cats like nigger jokes as much as you do.
Man, you seethe about women who want to have children as much as Android Raptor does
 
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I’m presuming that if you are actually of age to be on this site it is just so, so trust me: as early as approaching your thirties, the “half your age plus seven” rule goes from a rule of thumb to almost a physical feature you notice in women younger than you. The guys who claim they want the seventeen-year-old broodmare at forty have simply tricked themselves into believing so, and would be miserable if that were to actually occur.
 
Yeah, that's my age range. Trying to hit on non-high school/college-aged girls would make me either a guy with mommy issues or someone that had no interaction with women besides his mother
Are you saying you're in high school or some gay eva larp?
I’m presuming that if you are actually of age to be on this site it is just so, so trust me: as early as approaching your thirties, the “half your age plus seven” rule goes from a rule of thumb to almost a physical feature you notice in women younger than you. The guys who claim they want the seventeen-year-old broodmare at forty have simply tricked themselves into believing so, and would be miserable if that were to actually occur.
Older guys who go after young girls either want the young bodies and find mentally disabled women to groom or they're having a mid life crisis and are trying to prove they've still got it. Neither is healthy
 
Are you saying you're in high school or some gay eva larp?
Eva larpers larp about being in middle school, idiot. And no, where I live most kids have already finished high-school once they become of age.

Older guys who go after young girls either want the young bodies and find mentally disabled women to groom or they're having a mid life crisis and are trying to prove they've still got it. Neither is healthy
Hey, just like Papa JF, minus the french fries and the underage girls.

I’m presuming that if you are actually of age to be on this site it is just so, so trust me: as early as approaching your thirties, the “half your age plus seven” rule goes from a rule of thumb to almost a physical feature you notice in women younger than you. The guys who claim they want the seventeen-year-old broodmare at forty have simply tricked themselves into believing so, and would be miserable if that were to actually occur.
I see. Well, I hope to get married before that happens, so luckily I won't have to experience that
 
I didn't give the whole conversation because the post was already very long, but we did talk about it for a while and then talked about it again when I was feeling less sick. He's the type of guy that will never be ready for kids unn him inless he finds himself a girl that baby traps him and makes him have kids. He gave a lot of reasons for not wanting kids (the world is a scary place, kids are expensive, schools are gay, he's not good with kids, etc) which may all be true things, but I still want to have kids one day no matter what's going on in the world. I don't see the point in continuing the relationship, it becoming serious, and then I sit around and hope he eventually comes around.

I know there are guys out there that are 100% for having kids and will commit to it even if we're living in crazy and gay times.
Just turn him into a sex slave, make him submit to a matriarchal construct.
 
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