The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Betonhaus]

I'm really not sure what the concern is for Linux being hyper autistic. For anyone else, Windows and MacOS exists, you can just buy a laptop from Walmart and chances are, it will run Adobe Photoshop fine. I'm sure they're perfectly happy not knowing how the Linux kernel boots and looks for the root partition.

not everyone buys a new computer every four years. We long ago reached the point of "good enough" hardware, that continues to function fine as long as the OS doesn't get bloated or have meaningless hardware restrictions. Right now I have a mini pc with a 5th gen i5 and a laptop with a 6th gen i7. Windows 11 does not support them but they run perfectly fine under Linux Mint. And my $40 server is an old Xeon where getting a current Windows server license would be ungodly expensive but it runs fine with Debian 12. After that putting LM on my main computer just makes sense.

The final push was all the fucking ads that Windows has, demanding you pay for a Microsoft 365 subscription and giving you warning messages if you don't back up to OneDrive.

 

[doodoocaca]

Windows is getting pozzed so I figure I should finally bite the bullet. What's the best distro to get your feet wet assuming you're actually computer literate, a programmer, and aren't afraid of CLI shit?

Ubuntu/Mint is recommended, but I wonder why not just go Deb.

Also, just how good is proton or steamdeck or w/e at windows games now? Is it even worth worrying about launching windows in a vm anymore?

 

[Betonhaus]

Ubuntu/Mint is recommended, but I wonder why not just go Deb.

Deb is ultimately the best OS as it's stable and functionality, but Ubuntu/Mint add ease-of-use features that are convenient and save soo much headache. I could probably migrate to Debian+Cinnamon in the future and have a system that runs perfectly fine, but Mint cleans up some of the details and makes it easier to use important functions I'm not entirely familiar with.

A couple examples is that Linux Mint has a tool to easily install proprietary drivers, and the mirror selector will automatically test which ones have the fastest download speeds.
These are features that aren't neccessarily required, but they make time consuming steps or steps that require reaserch much easier and faster

 

[doodoocaca]

Shit, it's that easy now? Huh.

What's the state of "I want to run windows in a VM in linux or Xen or w/e" (I haven't played with that in ages!) WSL2 lets me do linux from windows stupidly easily. I wonder what the reverse is like.

 

[Susanna]

Shit, it's that easy now? Huh.

What's the state of "I want to run windows in a VM in linux or Xen or w/e" (I haven't played with that in ages!) WSL2 lets me do linux from windows stupidly easily. I wonder what the reverse is like.

Libvirt is very smooth to use. Double-click a VM, press play, wait a few seconds for it to boot. It’s not as convenient as WSL, but it’s as good as virtual machines get. You can also smoothly pass through USB and PCIe devices, in case you want to do something like give the VM a graphics card to accelerate whatever with.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Deb is ultimately the best OS as it's stable and functionality, but Ubuntu/Mint add ease-of-use features that are convenient and save soo much headache. I could probably migrate to Debian+Cinnamon in the future and have a system that runs perfectly fine, but Mint cleans up some of the details and makes it easier to use important functions I'm not entirely familiar with.

A couple examples is that Linux Mint has a tool to easily install proprietary drivers, and the mirror selector will automatically test which ones have the fastest download speeds.
These are features that aren't neccessarily required, but they make time consuming steps or steps that require reaserch much easier and faster

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The best novice distro is debian literally anything else. I tried Ubuntu and it was super fucking annoying to use esp the whole snap business bollocks. I really can't recommend it to noobs or literally anyone for that matter.

I haven't used Mint, but I feel like it'd be just the same shit all over again.

 

[419]

I haven't used Mint, but I feel like it'd be just the same shit all over again.

It isn't and you're a drooling retard. Mint goes out of its way to wipe any of Ubuntu's dumb shit like Snaps to begin with.

 

[Betonhaus]

The best novice distro is debian literally anything else. I tried Ubuntu and it was super fucking annoying to use esp the whole snap business bollocks. I really can't recommend it to noobs or literally anyone for that matter.

I haven't used Mint, but I feel like it'd be just the same shit all over again.

"Literally anything else" would include Linspire, Wubuntu, Red Star OS, and Suicide Linux - which makes your statement inherently incorrect.

Ubuntu adds several things to Debian which Debian is too strict to include, but it is a nasty mess. Linux Mint has put a lot of work into cleaning up Ubuntu, and even building their own desktop environment that is the most stable while being user friendly. Dismissing it without even bothering to understand it's difference only serve to announce the limits of your technological understanding.

 

[Betonhaus]

Libvirt is very smooth to use. Double-click a VM, press play, wait a few seconds for it to boot. It’s not as convenient as WSL, but it’s as good as virtual machines get. You can also smoothly pass through USB and PCIe devices, in case you want to do something like give the VM a graphics card to accelerate whatever with.

Right now I have virt-manager which is a gui for KVM on my system. It is a very powerful level of software, that gets the low level performance efficiency that Windows only gets when running Hyper-V. It's pretty easy to set up and has a wide number of features that I haven't fully explored. One thing is that for Windows 11 guests you need to add a virtual TPM chip, and windows home license needs you you change cpu emulation to one socket with multiple cores, but those are easy fixes.

 

[Susanna]

Right now I have virt-manager which is a gui for KVM on my system. It is a very powerful level of software, that gets the low level performance efficiency that Windows only gets when running Hyper-V. It's pretty easy to set up and has a wide number of features that I haven't fully explored. One thing is that for Windows 11 guests you need to add a virtual TPM chip, and windows home license needs you you change cpu emulation to one socket with multiple cores, but those are easy fixes.

Yeah, virt-manager is (one of) the frontend for libvirt. It’s all part of the KVM, the kernel virtual machine framework. Also implements qemu, which lets you emulate other architectures.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

One thing is that for Windows 11 guests you need to add a virtual TPM chip

No you don't, Microsoft just want you to think you do. You can bypass the TPM check in the setup if you know what you're doing. Windows 11 doesn't actually need the TPM to run. Same with SecureBoot.

 

[Sperg Coalition]

One thing is that for Windows 11 guests you need to add a virtual TPM chip

You can emulate it if you really need or... You can entirely bypass the check via the Registry in the setup as @Rusty Metal Skull Gun has said.

 

[Demonslayer1776]

I'm really not sure what the concern is for Linux being hyper autistic. For anyone else, Windows and MacOS exists, you can just buy a laptop from Walmart and chances are, it will run Adobe Photoshop fine. I'm sure they're perfectly happy not knowing how the Linux kernel boots and looks for the root partition.

I think Linux tism is a feature in alot of cases. It's much easier to look up questions and get good answers in my experience. It doesn't get drowned in a sea of half explanations that try to hide away the cli from normal users. Different people have different needs and trying to make a one size fits all OS just means it wouldn't really work properly for anyone.

 

[Meaty Fresh]

I think Linux tism is a feature in alot of cases. It's much easier to look up questions and get good answers in my experience. It doesn't get drowned in a sea of half explanations that try to hide away the cli from normal users. Different people have different needs and trying to make a one size fits all OS just means it wouldn't really work properly for anyone.

Hi,
I have 12 Microsoft MVP awards.
It's a pleasure for me to help others and I'll do all my best to help you. I'm sorry you have a problems.

When SFC cannot fix files, please repair system files by
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
command from Windows PowerShell (administrator) environment.

if you'll find someone's post helpful, mark it as an answer and rate it please. This will help other users to find answers to their similar questions.

 

[Mikoyan]

Hi,
I have 12 Microsoft MVP awards.
It's a pleasure for me to help others and I'll do all my best to help you. I'm sorry you have a problems.

When SFC cannot fix files, please repair system files by
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
command from Windows PowerShell (administrator) environment.

if you'll find someone's post helpful, mark it as an answer and rate it please. This will help other users to find answers to their similar questions.

We might as well rename it tism.exe at this point.

 

[jeff7989]

I thought at least some of the stutters were due to things like storage. Specifically because they are using storage not ram, and if you dont have something fast like an nvme ssd you will see stutters with some effects.

I have 2x Gen4 NVMe in Raid0, what else to I need? Boot rootfs into ramdisk?

 

[Betonhaus]

I have 2x Gen4 NVMe in Raid0, what else to I need? Boot rootfs into ramdisk?

is the raid controller software or hardware? and if it's hardware is it basic bitch consumer grade?

 

[jeff7989]

Striped ZFS pool.

 

[Susanna]

Striped ZFS pool.

You can either strip your ZFS of a bunch of features and boot from it directly with GRUB, or you can add a /boot partition to store the kernel outside of ZFS, and keep all the features. I'd favour the latter approach. You can still encrypt an ext4 boot partition with luks, which several boot loaders (including GRUB) support. If you want to stick the kernel directly into your ESP and boot it as efistub you'll have to make do without encryption, but it could still be secured by manually signing the image and using SecureBoot, it's just a massive hassle.

 

[jeff7989]

I have kernel and systemd-boot on ESP which mounts rootfs zpool on boot. I don't care about encryption, I only bother with it on anything that may be physically tampered with.